Ron Paul: Get out of Afghanistan! End War Profits and Corporatism!


Dylan Ratigan: Joining us now is Republican Congressman from Texas, and GOP presidential hopeful, Ron Paul. And, Congressman, it’s a pleasure to see you again.

Ron Paul: Thank you.

Dylan Ratigan: Now, your thoughts on everybody coming around to your way of thinking?

Ron Paul: Well, I hope it’s true, it looks like they have certainly moved in that direction, and I think it reflects the fact that the people have awakened, and that’s where they’re coming from right now. The American people are tired of it, 10 years is way too much. Nobody, as you described, has defined what our goals are and how victory could be achieved. So they’re sick and tired of it, we’re flat out broke, the sooner the better. I thought something you mentioned was very, very important, bringing a token 10,000 troops home or a few troops home. But you mentioned the fact of the contractors. What if they add 10,000, contracting out this war? It was done in Iraq and now it’s being done in Afghanistan. It’s much bigger than just measuring the number of troops there. But, overall, it’s the policy; what are we there for, what is the purpose, does it serve our national interests? And I would say no, there’s no real purpose there. And Senator Mencken made that very important point: China is achieving more than we achieve with all our fighting and killing and militarism, and the Chinese are out-classifying us as capitalist. They loan us money and they invest their money because they have most of our money, we’ve spent it over there. So we have really turned out system and its head, and we have to change it. But economic events are going to force us to do it, and I think it’s coming soon.

Dylan Ratigan: How do we exploit this opportunity? I feel, though, in the Republican primary that almost a man or a woman wants a redefinition of the Afghanistan mission, if not outright troop withdrawal along with everybody, from Senator Joe Manchin, Senator Bernie Sanders. I can line up a whole string of Democrats who would agree with you. How can we get the convergence of those disparate communities to wield force on the president and Republican leadership in the House?

Ron Paul: Well, I can see why people become disenchanted, because when George Bush Junior ran in the year 2000, I liked what he was saying. He said we should have a humble foreign policy, we shouldn’t be in nation building. But immediately afterwards he changed that policy. And then Obama was elected more-or-less as the peace candidate. Most people held on and said he will change the direction of the George Bush Administration, but nothing changes. So that’s why the American people get so tired of it all. But I think it won’t happen until we’re routed for economic reasons, like the Soviets were routed. Because, right now, even with a fancy speech tonight, I don’t think we’re going to lie back and say, “Hey, we finally turned the band and we are leaving”. I think we’re there for a long time to come, I think we’re there as long as the people will take our dollars, and we’re going to keep spending. It’s a very, very dangerous situation.

Dylan Ratigan: And would you ultimately argue that the narrative you just described when George Bush to President Obama – we’re talking about Republican and Democratic leadership in terms of their rhetoric, but the inability for the machine to respond to the people as a direct reflection of the military-industrial complex’s control of all of our military resources and foreign policy?

Ron Paul: Oh, I think so. I think the control is by the special interest, just as the control for bailing out the banks and the big corporations… the people didn’t want that. They’re the ones who got short changed on that. And when it comes to our foreign policy, it’s managed by the big corporations, it’s managed by those who make a lot of money, the war profits, and it’s a form of corporatism that exists. And that’s why we are getting a growing consensus with this from the progressive left as well as the libertarian right. We are coming together, but it’s just a major undertaking to attack the status quo. And because you just can’t always believe the rhetoric. I mean, the people have been hoodwinked too many times, they have to be able to trust the individual who says, “Enough is enough, it’s time to come home”, and certainly that is my position. A long time ago I thought we should have come home.

Dylan Ratigan: And how could we go about doing this? I mean, looking at this withdrawal narrative that the White House is pushing, I suppose in the hope that everybody in the media comes out and says, “Oh, President Obama launches the withdrawal” without looking deeper to see the 10,000 troops, not to mention the ability to hire 10,000 people with the contractors, is an insult to all of us. What would it really look like, in your mind, if we were going to withdraw?

Ron Paul: Well, there would be an announcement. A president could do it, he’s in charge of the troops. He could just say, “Look, it’s time to come home, we’re going to back off, we’re going to systematically come home as safely as possible and as quickly as possible”. And I think once the announcement was made, and the people knew we were serious, there would be a lot of re-assurance. Maybe some of the American capitalist would once again invest some money as the Chinese capitalist are doing right now. I mean, the Chinese are not only investing in Afghanistan, they’re investing in Iran. We want a fight, we want another war with Iran instead of saying, “Well, why don’t we spread our goodness by trading with people?” I mean, there was one time, of course, in recent memory, especially for me, was all we and the Chinese wanted to do was shoot and kill each other over the Korean War. But now we trade with the Chinese. I mean, what is so terrible about that? Because it is the way to preserve peace and prosperity at the same time.

Dylan Ratigan: Yea. Listen, Congressman, as I said to Senator Mencken, I’ll say it to you, I could not agree more and I wish you all the best in your efforts and we’ll do everything we can to help you, particularly on the issue of the war. Thank you, Congressman.

Ron Paul: Thank you very much.

Dylan Ratigan: Alright, Ron Paul.

  • goodceo314



  • Dylan can be an asshole but he clearly gives Ron Paul a platform to speak out on our corrupt foreign policy and for that i am eternally grateful for him. Chris matthews on the other hand only wants to talk about petty shit like accuse Dr. paul of racism, etc.

  • bobshenix

    Dylan can be an asshole but he clearly gives Ron Paul a platform to speak out on our corrupt foreign policy and for that i am eternally grateful for him. Chris matthews on the other hand only wants to talk about petty shit like accuse Dr. paul of racism, etc.

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  • mquiroz90

    he can be like bill clintion right

  • ronpaulfan1

    End the Fed, Bring ALL Troops Home, Abolish the IRS!!!
    Ron Paul 2012

  • PhDinExistence

    PEOPLE WAKE UP!!! We MUST elect this guy!!!

  • Those bastards in the United Fucked Nations flooded Minot, ND and other places in United States and in other countries by using haarp to change weather systems. Time to shutdown United Nations period.

  • RedvsBlueGoD

    Libertarian right, I lol’d

  • TMaw345

    Props to Dylan Ratigan for giving Ron Paul his due airtime.

  • Armornone

    Ron Paul is a traitor to his party. Dope dealing loser! He does not care about the children on the streets dying from illegal drugs.

    • freedomforall

      You sound like you don’t have a mind (let alone a mind of your own!) Why don’t you state some facts instead of spreading bile and lies…only the uninformed attack people in this manner. You don’t have much faith in mankind if you think the drug problem would be worse in a legal system. The same people would still be using drugs only there would be less crime, less prisoners, and less tax dollars going to a “war on drugs” that does nothing but pay salaries and keep people in prison that shouldn’t be there.

    • Ross

      Prior 2001 the Taliban had stopped the production of heroine and there was a world wide heroine dought.Come their invasion,Afghanistan now produces 90% of the world’s heroine. Decriminalise drug use and make it health issue,then the criminals will have no profits and less control over our political representivies.

      Education and freedom is the way to go.

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  • juansihi

    To me it is no wonder why MSNBC commentators as well as NBC’s which its Boss has decided to endorsed for Barabama ( Barac Hussein Obama ) All these liberal so-called mainstream Media have always been in favor for leftwing democrats.

  • perfectcoda1

    a voice of reason.
    i think the only reason a logical person could find themselves dissatisfied with ron paul is if they were scared of how much sense he makes!
    and i somewhat understand, because of how uncommon it is.
    before you cast your vote this election, try something new… find out where your candidate is getting the money for they’re campaign!

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    In less that three years from now Free Internet will be history ! Probably you are aware of rising numbers of ” bad hackers” news lately in the media…These “false flag hackers” will be the pretext for the introduction of tough regulation and censure…(probably you want to connect the dots by yourself so you want to search for “Jay Rockefeller: Internet should have never existed ” here on youtube) …What You gonna do?

    • Libertarian777

      Isn’t it strange that on the one hand the government is wanting an Internet kill switch and on the other hand is trying to give ‘activists’ in the middle east access to an anonymous network.

  • sangolt88

    America is driven forward (or backwards) by the same elite. Obama, Bush, Cheney, Clinton, they are all the same. Obama said he was going to close Gitmo, get out of Iraq and Afghanistan ASAP, if he got elected president.

    I have a slight hope that an honest man that I believe is on the side of the people, and not politics, is to become president, I hope for Ron Paul.

    But most people are going with the usual “oh hes a communist” or “oh hes a neocon” etc. Republican, Democrat, all the same.

  • philliptjr1

    That’s exactly what the D. C. crooks will do. Pull the troops out of Afghanistan and put in private contractors. Then they can send the troops to Lybia, Syria, and straight to the war of Armageddon. God help us all, and I mean that.

  • yadig2012

    would love to have him debate Obama?… that would be some funny, one-sided stuff.

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