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Megyn Kelly: Just when you thought airport security couldn’t get anymore unbearable, well guess what? Prepare for even more scrutiny now. The TSA warning that terrorists are seriously considering a new tactic, surgically implanting explosive devices. It could mean big changes in the screening procedures again and chances are, they won’t be less intrusive. Texas Republican Ron Paul is a presidential candidate, and he is introducing the American traveler dignity act saying we should completely replace the TSA with private security firms. Good morning or good afternoon I should say, Congressman. I’m used to saying good morning on Fox & Friends, sorry about that.
Ron Paul: Okay, good afternoon.
Megyn Kelly: So you are introducing this new plan to privatize, I guess what’s now known as the TSA. How would that make it better?
Ron Paul: Well it would make it efficient, there’s no history to show that government bureaucrats are ever more efficient than the private market. But there’s two different ways how you privatize something. If you just take the airport security and the government hires out private firms, that’s not for me privatization. That’s sort of a combination of big business and big government and that doesn’t solve the problem. The responsibility should be on the airlines, just as it’s on the responsibility of the owners of chemical plants and the owners of armored cars. They take charge of that and they do a very, very good job.
And the government was in charge of security before 9/11. They did a lousy job. They prohibited guns from being on airplane and they said “nobody should resist.” And so we set the stage for 9/11. So I want the owners to assume responsibility and the burden would be on the airlines and it would save the taxpayer an awful lot of money.
Megyn Kelly: So if I run an airline right now, tell me if I’m right or wrong. I don’t think I like this plan because what’s it going to cost me?
Ron Paul: Well that’s the reason we don’t have it. The airlines are in bed with the government, they’re partners with the government. They don’t want the liability and they don’t want the responsibility. But they should have it. Yes it’ll cost them money and you’ll have to pay for it with a higher ticket but you’ll pay lower taxes. But they’ll do a better job and it’s going to be so much more efficient. They’re not going to take X-rays of you in the nude, and they’re not going to prod and poke you. They’re not going to prod and poke little kids and 95-year-old women. They’re going to figure it out because they got to treat them like customers. So that’s all the difference in the world.
Megyn Kelly: But Congressman Paul, you’re on Capitol Hill. You know that there’s a lot of waste of taxpayer dollars. Are you just assuming that if we privatize this that all the tax dollars that were going to the TSA would suddenly be given back to us?
Ron Paul: Well it should be, you can’t assume anything with the politicians and the bureaucrats because they always figure out a way to keep it there, they’re endless and if they don’t get enough then they go to the Fed and they get the Fed to do their bailing out. So it’s outrageous, it’s totally out of control. But you have to make the effort; you have to make the suggestion, what is the alternative? If you can’t depend on government, whom should you depend on? I say depend on the market, private owners take much better care of the property than government has ever done.
Megyn Kelly: Well let me tell you about some of the enhanced security measures that are now going to apparently go into place with the TSA because of these reports about surgically implanted bombs from Al-Qaeda. Here it is: more behavior detection officers, more airport interviews and pat downs, in addition, in an effort to detect traces of explosives, passenger’s skin and clothing may be swabbed. Is that what you’re talking about?
Ron Paul: Well I think that’s an outrage I mean horrible, if the private airlines were doing it, they might have one sniff dog that knows something about explosives and that’s all you would need, you don’t need all this other stuff, no it’s going to cost a lot more money and I’ve said and I sincerely believe this, if the American people can look at these pictures on TV about what they do to 95-year-old women, what they do to little kids and the groping of the groins and if the American people say, “Oh that’s okay with me” I tell you what, we’re in a lot worse shape than I think we’re in. I think we’ve given up, if we accept that, we’re in bad trouble.
Megyn Kelly: Right, well, as you know the argument is that a lot of Americans are okay with that because they feel like in this day and age since 9/11 they might have to give up a liberty, I’m just saying that’s the other side of the equation here to keep everyone safe. Before you go, I got to get this question in though, if you privatize airport screening and security, how does profiling fit into that?
Ron Paul: Well they’re allowed to, because a private company has an obligation, if you don’t like the airline and they do too much profiling then you don’t fly on that airline. But today there are not a lot of profiles, so a 95-year-old woman get’s treated like a terrorist and somebody else who really looks like he could, that guy I might want to ask him two question, oh well, we can’t’ ask him as many question, matter of fact I even back off because he looks sort of suspicious. No, a private airline has a right to be suspicious and they can in a way, but if they overdo that they’re going to have a bad reputation and the customers are going to make sure that they hear about it.
Megyn Kelly: Very interesting. Let us know how your new plan, the American traveler dignity act, let us know if it’s successful or not. Congressman Ron Paul always great to see you. Thanks so much, have a good weekend.
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This moron clearly DOES NOT CARE about terrorism and bomb threats because all he can talk about it how unnecessary airport security and screenings are.
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At 4:15 I saw Congressman Paul in his head formulating Ben Franklin’s statement that those who would give up a little liberty to gain security deserve neither and will lose both. Too bad the time ran out.
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It feels like airport security wants to play a game called sex
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I think that viewpoint is flawed….the larger the problem gets, the murkier the problem becomes and the less effective a one-size-fits all solution becomes.
I would encourage you to read The Road to Serfdom by FA Hayek if you have not already bc you have proven yourself to be a thinking person that isn’t afraid of new ideas, so I wish to share this knowledge with you. Get back to me on that one-size-fits all hypothesis after the book, I think you will not be able to put the book down.
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Well don’t stop there, do tell what the flaws with the Constitution are…besides the Sixteenth Amendment of course. Just so you know, I’m not disagreeing right away, I’m just curious.
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I don’t think private companies should be in the business of managing a military force that is not answerable to the public…I think this is one of the reasons that every state is supposed to have their own militia, or at least they should IMO. I think we have a military that has a command structure that has proven to be effective at its given task, I just think we gave them the wrong task. I want a strong national DEFENSE. I want to pull out of all foreign countries ASAP.
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No not entirely. I mean should we have seperate militaries (organisations) competing with each other to do a better job of national security and defense. All working as private companies. Or should we have one government controlled military with standardized methods like we do now???
The constitution has many flaws btw!
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Perhaps a Federal level department understands the threat we face better???
Again, dont you think if airports and airlines were left in charge they would cut corners endangering our safety?
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I think private citizens should hold the means to defend this country in a war…remember the Constitution only allows standing armies for two years. So yes, I do support a militia with their weapons in private hands…is that what you were meaning?
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I would have a question as to who they were going to be answerable to…the is the problem with the TSA…they aren’t held responsible for their actions to the people they are groping. Let’s take my airport, Denver International Airport, and look at who owns and operates it…the City and County of Denver…shouldn’t they be responsible for the security of their airport? Why do they want a Federal-level department coming in and running their security?
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Sure, agree to disagree. But let me ask you, if the government sent the army in to deal with airport security would you have any objection to their ability?
Do you think we should have different privatised militaries taking care of the nation???
I think this is a good question to ask!!!
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Well, agree to disagree then. Remember what Benjamin Franklin said, “Those who sacrifice liberty for security often end up with neither.”
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I don’t call 14 million illegals, a leaky border, and troops in foreign countries a particularly good job to be honest. I’m not faulting the troops but I’m certainly faulting the American people for their voting and the lax interest put on ACTUALLY securing this country against foreign invasion, which was the original intent of the Constitution. You really shouldn’t bring up an army with me bc the Constitution doesn’t authorize a standing Army for more than 2 yrs, militia is the answer
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You seem to be looking at this from a purely political perspective. But this isnt about politics, its about what works best and i maintain that government controlled security means we will all be much safer
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What reasons would there be for terrorism if we packed up and left tomorrow?
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At airports like DIA that are publicly-funded and run by the city and county of Denver, a direct tax on all traffic in and out of DIA would be sufficient in keeping all necessary operations funded, yes even security. I don’t mind the city and county acting to protect their investment but I resist the federal government’s expansion of powers at EVERY level. I don’t like the fact that this agency is not responsible to the SAME public that funds the airport.
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One-size-fits all is not defensible at all…what about smaller, regional airports that can’t afford body-scanners or maybe even metal detectors? Are we then to subsidize the airport DESPITE the economic fact that the airport cannot pay for “standardized security methods”
Let me tell you, a handgun costs about $400…which is about $1200 per crew…those costs would be absorbed privately, READ no money from taxes!, as would the cost of security…
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