Ron Paul: I’m Trying to Change the Course of History


Megyn Kelly: With strong grassroots support and a second-place showing in the Iowa straw-poll, you would think that Congressman Ron Paul would be getting a lot more media attention this week. But instead, all of the focus appears to be on Mitt Romney and Rick Perry, and, to some extent, Michele Bachmann. So, Congressman Paul is taking action. He is out now with a new political ad. One that goes after Romney, Perry and Bachmann by name. Take a listen.

TV Ad: …a story of a lost city, lost opportunity, lost hope. A story of failed policies, failed leadership, a story of smooth-talking politicians, games of “He Said, She Said,” rhetoric, and division. One man has stood apart, stood strong and true, voting against every tax increase, every unbalanced budget, every time. Standing up to the Washington machine, guided by principle, Ron Paul, the one who will stop the spending…

Megyn Kelly: There we have it. My guest now: Congressman Ron Paul. Congressman, thank you so much for being here. Let me start with this, because it’s starting to make some more and more headlines. Not your campaign and your candidacy, but the fact that the media is ignoring you. Are they?

Ron Paul: Sure. Yeah, they are and we need to ask them why. What are they afraid of? We’re doing well. We’re certainly in the top tier. We showed we did well in Iowa. And we have a good organization. We can raise money. But they don’t want to discuss my views because I think they’re frightened by us challenging the status quo and the establishment when it comes to foreign policy, monetary policy, the entitlement system, because my views are quite different than the other candidates. So, they would just as soon us not get the coverage that the others are getting and they will concentrate on establishment-type politicians.

Megyn Kelly: There seems to be a narrative emerging that you can’t win and therefore they’re giving you back-of-the hand treatment. There was an editorial in the Wall Street Journal that said: “He has no chance to win”. This despite the fact that you were 152 votes within the top spot in the Iowa straw poll. In fact, out of almost 17,000 votes cast, you were 150 or so away from number one. But the Wall Street Journal and others say you can’t win. Why? Why do they believe that?

Ron Paul: Well, they want to believe it. And they want to promote an idea. They don’t want to promote information. Because there have been a couple of polls where I either came in first or second when you match my name up against Obama. Because my views really compete, and this would be a reason the Democrats don’t want me to win either. Because I can compete against Obama because his base is very unhappy with his expansion of the war and his lack of interest in protecting civil liberties. And therefore, they don’t want to hear from me either. But I have done quite well. I’m quite willing to match my name up against Obama any time of the day.

Megyn Kelly: It’s got to be somewhat frustrating for you to come in second and be as close as you were to winning in Iowa. Not to mention the polling that you’ve been doing, which is fairly good. To have this kind of treatment in the media, does it disturb you?

Ron Paul: Not that it disturbs me… I don’t use the word frustrating because I think I anticipate it. I know how the system works. And I know what I’m trying to do because it’s not like I’m just trying to win and get elected. I’m trying to change the course of history. And our history in this country hasn’t been good for the last 100 years. Whether it’s our drift into manage an empire, the destruction of our currency, the deficits that have been run up, the climax of the dollar-reserve standard. This is big stuff. And nobody else is addressing this.

So, in spite of all the shortcomings of the reporting on this, I write it off a bit because they don’t have any idea about the significance of the monetary system and what’s going on with the Federal Reserve. But the people – grassroots America – are starting to wake up. Millions of people are reading about the Federal Reserve and understanding how they bail out their friends, create trillions of dollars, give a third of all that money they used in the bailout and give it to foreign banks. People are realizing this. Even though the media, generally speaking, they don’t understand it. They don’t ask me the right questions. And, if they do understand it, they don’t want to get the secret out on how the system that we have protects the special interests, the big corporations, the corporatism that runs our society.

Megyn Kelly: If I can, I want to ask you about your initial point which is they don’t like your views on foreign policy. And they are controversial. You made headlines in the debate by saying you don’t think we should be interfering with Iran and it would be okay if Iran got a nuke. You also described the Osama Bin Laden raid that took his life as unnecessary. That has critics saying Ron Paul is outside the mainstream.

Ron Paul: Well, I’m virtually running on George Bush’s foreign policy of the year 2000. He was very critical of Clinton, the intervention, the nation building. He said we don’t need to be in nation building. We don’t need to be intervening. We don’t need to be the policeman of the world. That’s George Bush. I’m just running on his foreign policy. So, why is it so strange now? You know why? Because I’m serious about it. I’m just not pandering to the people. The peace candidate is always a very strong candidate. Obama was the peace candidate in the last go-around because he was going to start bringing our troops home and ending these wars. And here we’re in more wars than ever.

Megyn Kelly: But even he had some tough talk when it came to Iran, which is considered a state sponsor of terror and has reportedly been helping kill our troops in two battlefields. You know, there’s a question: if you’re going to let them get a nuke, who’s next? Would you let Al Qaeda get a nuke? You got to draw the line somewhere.

Ron Paul: Yeah, our foreign policy has led to the death of a million Iraqis. You can’t ignore that. As far as Iran getting a nuke, no, I don’t want them have a nuke. I don’t want anybody to have nukes. But I understand it. And I understand that Ronald Reagan could talk to the Soviet Union and Nixon talked to the Chinese. And they had murdered millions of their own people. But we didn’t say the solution was to invade those countries and take their nukes away from them.

Iran doesn’t even have a nuke. And our CIA says they’re not even on the verge of having a nuke. They don’t have enough gasoline to provide for the people and they have all that oil. And we want to believe they’re on the verge of nuking somebody? Believe me, this is all war propaganda. They just want number-six war. We have essentially five going on now. And we’re broke. And the American people know we can’t afford any more wars.

Megyn Kelly: I got to go soon, Congressman, but I want to squeeze this in before we go. If you were President Paul and it turned out you were wrong. That Iran did have the bomb and attacked Israel. Would you step in?

Ron Paul: No, I’d let Israel take care of them. Why should we interfere with Israel? We’re always interfering with Israel when they want to deal with their neighbors. We undermine their national sovereignty. We shouldn’t tell them how to manage their borders. I defended Israel when they took out the nukes in Iraq many, many years ago. Israel has 300 of these.

Do you think – there’s a lot of problems in Iran, there’s no doubt about it. But I’ll tell you what: they’re not suicidal. What has been happening since 1953, we have interfered. They had a pretty good democracy going in 1953 and we kicked it out. Our CIA kicked it out for oil and put in the Shah. He was a ruthless dictator. Then you wonder why there’s blowback?

No, history is on my side of this argument and the founders were right. Non-interventions, friends and trade with people, more prosperity and peace.

Megyn Kelly: Congressman Ron Paul, come back any time, Sir. Thanks so much for being here.

Ron Paul: Thanks for having me.

  • Realtruthfukillu

    it a part of the manipulation my friend trust me im so well-informed they want to impersonate a victim with ron paul to make him credible u understand!? by putting him at the head of the new rising ”truth wake up” movement . by putting him at the head of the contestation movement they will control it!! they will create riot so they can apply martial law so they can bust eveyrone who is not agreed with the new world order organized by jewish’familys like rothschild warburgs schiff rockefeller..


  • Realtruthfukillu

    ur so stupid dude ron paul the new puppet of the elite in power(rich ass jewsih’family like rothschild and rockefeller warburgs schiff etc..) , al quaeeda and bin laden r all bullshit to brainwash all the sheeps!! they want u all to vote for ron paul so the riots can start so they can apply martial laws with the military busting everybody who is not agreed with the new orld order orchestred by jewish richest familys who control everything from banks to media to army to everything

  • CrankCase08

    Not only would his election benefit the US, it would also benefit the British people here who have had to endure one government after another with its tongue permanently up the ass of America and its imperialist foreign policy. Even Opposition Labour leader, slimy Ed Miliband is yet another CIA stooge, like so many other Labour Party politicians.

  • Don & MarilynHalsell

    Yes, the system which has evolved over many terms has made most all Americands feel ENTITLED. We are 78 and 82 years old respectively and are stupified by the AARP playing the tune about old people being entitled to medicare and social secuirity AS IT IS, WITH NO REVISIONS DICTATED BY FIANCIAL REALITY. You are the only candidate who seems to grasp the core problems that need attentiion. Yes, it will take more than one term, but lets get started.

  • sadface0

    It’s simple as fuck, the powers that be who control the media don’t want Ron Paul’s message to be broadcast because then maybe, just maybe, the average American might wake the fuck up. They don’t want that.

  • quangngy

    Why is Ron Paul getting so much support on the internet? Freedom is popular and the internet is the purest form of a free and open society, all of which Ron Paul advocates. I pray that today is the day that America awakens. It is up to our generation to have a burning desire for freedom. It is up to we the people to answer the call of liberty. If the media does not acknowledge Ron Paul then it is up to we the people to spread the word! Thumbs this up for others.

  • 666sigma

    Bachmann paid for 4,000 tickets to the straw poll. Paul will beat her in the caucus.

  • Rob187ok

    Just for a change why can’t the good guys have a turn at running things.

  • Vegeto69X

    He can’t win because those that control everything picked Rick Perry last year. Search “ENDGAME” and see for yourself.

  • ProEugenics52

    The only thing I find crazy about Ron Paul is that he is not smart enough to lie about what he really thinks. When he becomes President he can do whatever he wants. If he is not smart enough to lie then why should we think that he is smart enough to be president ?

  • davenetdog

    He’s right!

  • swizzlecheeks

    Efff the Mainstream Media!!! Grassroots all the way!!!!
    Let THEM eat cake!!!!

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  • doogleandalix

    Important reminder: I know Ron Paul has many former Obama supporters /party cross overs who may not know this . In about 25 states , if you are not a registered REPUB, U will NOT be able to vote ROn Paul in the critical primary which securest he nomination! SO bite the bullet if you are a Dem supporter of ROn Paul -change that affiliation today. Do not be cheated out of your vote, don’t let a flawed system cheat Ron Paul out of a well-deserved nomination.You can change back after he wins.

  • EciOwnsYou

    I love this guy. She tries to bring up the Jews and make him look like the bad guy, but he debunks her idea immediately and it makes sense.

  • buddybleau

    All the news media is owned by big corporations. No way will they give Ron Paul equal time. Ron Paul can’t be bought! That’s the problem. And he will get my vote!

  • Skyathaniel

    Oh I think I know why.. cuz I think the media are also considered as corporation.. right?

  • jaspers107

    I must admit, that ad was probably the best presidential ad I have ever seen.

  • holydiver65

    Obama would have no chance against ron paul!!!!

  • TMullen8

    This was a fantastic interview for him! She is usually ruthless in interviews with people she doesn’t agree with.