39 responses to “Full GOP Debate at the Reagan Library – Politico/NBC”

  1. kratom experiences

    Magnificent site. Plenty of helpful info here. I’m sending it to several buddies ans also sharing in delicious. And naturally, thank you to your sweat!

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  2. Dawid

    Vote for who won the debate on fox poll:
    http://nation.foxnews.com/2012-presidential-debates/2011/09/08/meeting-minds-during-debate-break
    Scroll down the page, its on the right side.
    Ron Paul 2012!!!

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  3. James

    The Only Real issue is the Money Power.

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  4. Revolutionist

    I was angered by the fact that they did not go to Ron Paul when it came to the Bernanke and Fed question. Gingrich was looking over at him when he talked about supporting an audit and everything, but it was as if they did not want to let his brilliant thoughts be revealed to the mass public. I was actually surprised by the total amount of attention they gave to him. I was disappointed by the amount of coverage they gave to Herman Cain though, as I think it would be a great name to see next to Ron Paul on the 2012 ballot.

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    1. WE THE PEOPLE

      Herman Cain’s name will never be on the same ticket with Dr. Paul. Herman Cain is a former Chairman and Member of the Board of Directors for the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City Not going to happen.

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  5. Adam Moriwaki

    How did Ron Paul not get a question in the tax debate or Bernanke topic? He is the chairman of the Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy and Technology for crying out loud!

    The only questions RP got were staged to demagogue issues and showed little understanding of his positions.

    Also, SO frustrated RP didn’t jump in right after John Huntsman said the best way to see how a candidate will be as president is to look at their voting record. RP blows Perry and Romney out of the water with 30+ years of consistent voting!!

    P.S. How the heck can Perry simply announce he’s running and get SO much attention. Do the mainstream media just assume we are all sheep?

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    1. JFB

      No, not “all sheep”, but many people are unfortunatelly.

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  6. Jay

    Watching this debate was really just frustrating to say the least. As everyone here already knows. In the hour an 38 min this went on with roughly a minute for each person to speak. Ron Paul was given perhaps 6 mins to really give in his thoughts on the issues. An the amazing part is even not being in the fire an continuously jabbering like most of the other high profile candidates. Ron Paul was still able to get quite the stir an excitement out of the people in the audience.
    The lack of respect an favoritism was sick. I wanted to slap that fellow in the face telling Ron Paul to hurry up waving his hand about with such disrespect towards the man. Who do these people think they are? You get to really see what is what in this. This was not a debate, but another dog and pony show for a few. I do hope the best for Ron Paul a long and continuing success. I really enjoy his ability to handle himself up there and dish it out with these folks. Its good to see the media get so upset too for once over someone they do not get to control.

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  7. ridehard

    This debate was no more than a snapshot of prepared responses. It would be difficut for a candidate to respond in length to any topic with such limited time. This type of forum does not work in Ron Paul’s favor. If they were given more time to explain their positions, no doubt Ron would have blown them away.

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  8. DavidUllery

    Once again, they neglected to mention Ron Paul’s name, when they mentioned that the candidates were set up, sort of like a sporting competition, where the gold and silver winners were in the middle. They mentioned MB was flanked on one side, but did not mention Paul, who was equally in the middle of the group. He was obviously written off, before the ring master began the show, which was not a debate, by any standard except mainsteam media, fake news shows like those from MSNBC or FOXNEWS.

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    1. Ian

      I believe that someone is getting paid to put all the thumbs down on this site, I wouldn’t put it pass the corrupt people in government. Mainstream Media blows!!

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  9. Ruff Nex

    Wow. We saw a lot of Romney and Perry. This is GARBAGE!

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  10. Dmitry

    I agree with most of the comments here. It’s a shame how the debate was structured, and how little respect and time was given to Dr. Paul, but this is not surprising at all-it just proves one more time that all the official informational channels are controlled by corrupt people whose mere concern is their self-enrichment. They got scarred, after the Iowa debate and the straw poll, that Paul began to gain the steam: poll numbers were up, The Daily Show attracted a lot of attention by lombasting the unfair attitude of CNN/FOX and the rest towards Paul. The main point is that it’s getting so bad out there that people begin to critically think. They realise that we can’t afford more wars, spending, joblessness. People are frustrated and cornered. The only politician out there who has been talking about this for decades is Ron Paul. He won’t be playing by the set-up rules, he will stand up for the nation and the Constitution, he will defend our civil rights. Who of MSNBC’s owners, bankers, militarists want this to happen? Thus, they give him no stage to express his ideas, thus they mock him, thus they act like he doesn’t exist. That’s a direct slap in his face and in the face of this nation and its democratic principles. If we let them do this to us, it will only get worse. The history repeats itself, and we all remember to Germany in1930s. The US might become that Germany and we have absolutely no right to let it happen. Hence, we must double our efforts to get the message of freedom out there. We stand by our leader-RON PAUL and we won’t surrender. These are hard times for everyone. But it may not be an excuse for inaction. We must organize, donate, spread the message and do all we can to get RON PAUL elected. Our demands can’ t be neglected any more. Enough is enough. Act NOW!

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  11. MacKid

    This debate was almost strategically formulated by the MSNBC to favor certain candidates and not favor others. Paul was essentially attacked on his Libertarian views.

    I hope the Paul campaign can anticipate some of this in the future debates and prepare answers that focus on specific issues – Economy/Jobs, Wars in Middle East, Patriot Act, Government Deficit. And not on specifics like regulations regarding FAA and car manufacturing.

    We all know Dr. Paul has the right answers and ideas, lets hope many Americans see through this power shame of questioning.

    I agree with Anna and the Blue Republican thread below…Dr. Paul slow down a bit in your answers, you are a genius, but we must invite the slower folks into your ideas and the WHY of your solutions not the WHAT.

    Ron Paul is the only candidate with a real grip on the problems and not on patch fixes but real fixes…

    Keep the faith Ron Paul in 2012

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  12. Bob

    This was not a debate in any sense of the word. I am biased as I believe Ron Paul is the most qualified person to be president but the way he was treated was truly embarrassing and demeaning to Paul and America. I will be sending the Paul campaign even more money and donating even more of my time to getting this good man elected.

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  13. truth

    I am sorry Ron had to show for this Joke of a debate! Let the mainstream Media be the first to Burn. Although more and more people are seeing it for what it is or is not. Rons going to be on the Daley show which I expect hard and indepth questioning and I have no doubt Ron will be up to the task.

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  14. Jim

    The people running that debate are nothing more than shameless, blatant propagandists.

    Yellow journalism is alive and well. There really needs to be some kind of legal recourse against these media shills. Hit them where they really feel it, their wallet, and hit them HARD.

    In fact, I think it would be justifiable, to rip away their FCC license. Do that to just one of the largest main stream medias, and see how quickly the rest decide to do what is right.

    Time to make these clowns start answering for their blatant and willful disregard of the American public’s best interests. Their self serving, special interest, corporate whoring, is there for all to see.

    Say it with me, I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it anymore!

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    1. SecondJon

      “There really needs to be some kind of legal recourse against these media shills.”

      Interesting to hear a Paul supporter calling for increased government regulation infringing on the freedom of the press by punishing them for not being flattering toward your favorite candidate.

      I have to disagree with Paul supporters on this. I don’t think government should be in the business of punishing the press for not being flattering.

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  15. DavidUllery

    They did not give Ron Paul and several other candidates time to speak. It seemed very much like they focused on the candidates that MSNBC liked. Why do they ask other candidates what they would do in office, but ask Dr. Paul what the theoretical end-goal of his views would eventually lead too? I am happy that he got to point out that he would not just drop all of those programs at once. The only Constitutional power the president has is commander-in-chief and veto power.

    He can bring the troops home, which is 99% of Austrian economic theory as it applies to an empire that has over extended itself, like the United States. This would immediately save lives, get national guard equipment back to where it belongs so that people can get extra help from the brave people who serve, and want nothing more than to actually defend the liberty for all of us, and not the elite few on the top of the military-bank industrial complex, where the banks bail out themselves and their buddies at the FED and in congress.

    The other point that Dr. Paul made, in his little blip that he was provided, was the point that conservatives want to help make lives better, and they believe their ideas are better than what is currently set up, with the gigantic beuracracy.

    In that sense, he clearly won the debate, if you measure quality*useful*truthful information per time alotted. I would estimate about 10 to one. Contrary to popular opinion, and although I totally disagree with most of her statements, Michele Bachmann actually came across better than she usually does, but she pales when you check out her statements, and record of course. I am just speaking of her general presence as a mainstream politician, able to memorize and sound reasonable-ish in her tone and presentation. In other words, I am congradulating her on her speaking presentation where she managed not to whine, and she managed to sort of complete a thought.

    Paul even managed to point out that gasoline would cost a dime, implying that even the silver standard would be infinitely better than paper, fiat currency. A far better point than Bachmann’s memorized $2 repeat sound bites. So now, it is much easier to see through MB, now that I do not have to cover my ears and crindge as if someone were rubbing their finger nails across a black board. All whine and no substance. Now she has improved a great deal to speaking with mere empty memorizations. That group has learned to mimic Paul, but only in vague references, so that she will not need to make herself too clear; and so she can easily back away. She is just another smoke and mirror job that happened to be written off by MSNBC.

    Romney slicked up more and looked calmer. A real professional politician and very slick in his meaningless bout with Perry. Hopefully other’s will see through this pretend debate, obviously designed to feature Perry and Romney as if they had anything to say that was not mainstream. Perry goes on about ponzy schemes, which is interesting, but doubtful, given his actual record, and people will certainly see through him after all of that exposure tonight.

    What happened to actual debates? Why not ask questions, and interview people running for office in debth, and allow them to answer the question completely, rather than in sound bites? Hopefully, Paul will hang in there ’till they thin out the herd, so to speak, and then he will have more of an opportunity for more lengthy explanations of his ideas; important ideas that he has studied for many years, appears to be completely honest and sincere in his beliefs and has strong convictions.

    The free market of ideas are still alive on the Internet, so these media events will become less and less important. I noticed a lot of support for Ron Paul down on Venice Beach, California from people on the left, and just, plain believers in free trade. If you go there, you will know what I am referring too. People can set up shows and sell just about any product. There are still rediculous restrictions, and rediculous laws, due to confusions about property rights, that so many cities and residentual areas have trouble with.

    I noticed that Bill O’Rielly sent someone out to interview Ron Paul, then misinterpretted the constitution in their silly comments afterward. I prefer Jefferson’s remarks on banking and bankers:

    “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.”

    The O’Rielly head say that Paul is not running to win and is just running for attention and to get out his ideas. Paul wants to win, and this is a crazy statement that everybody is used to on this “no spin zone, because we already fell down dizzy” show.

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    1. Michael Feldstein

      Excellent summary and you hit so many points on target. I hope journalism classes use tonights debate as a lesson in what not to be as a reporter.

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  16. Daniel Seward

    What a joke the debates were. Let R.P. speak on some serious issues! Argh. Not sure if I can watch anymore. Just going to cast my vote for our man, and hope that the system is not completely corrupt.

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  17. screwpolitico

    You guys didn’t even focus on Ron Paul. He is like 3rd and why don’t you guys talked about Gardasil and how Rick Perry cut the funding for the volunteer firefighters by 75%. You guys are serious pricks!

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  18. LET FREEDOM RING

    Ron Paul has my vote!

    How can we keep telling other countries how to run their government and invest their money when we can’t even do it properly in our own country? Why do we send Foreign Aid to 174 countries (most with positive bank accounts) when we are 14 trillion in debt and can’t take care of our own people in disasters? Where are the National Guard when we need them? Aren’t they supposed to help our people at home?

    Why not Bring the troops home, stop the foreign aid, take care of our own, stop aggressive wars that breed hatred, invest in a free market with opportunities for new inventions and new ideas for energy and such? Why not let states decide on issues such as same sex marriage and drugs?

    *r(EVOL)ution * Liberty * Ron Paul * 2012 * Freedom* Constitution * rights * Love*

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  19. Michael Feldstein

    Perry’s has no knowledge of climate change and it is backward thinking. I am sick of hearing about Perry, Romney, Bachman talking about drilling, oil shale drilling, Nuclear Energy. It’s time to invest in clean energy that is renewable. Hearing this denying of science and studies is the kind of backward thinking that has led parts of this country to burn books. I understand studies can be conducted by lobbyists, however, look out your window the last five to ten years and you can’t deny the change. Global warming is a naturally occuring process but it has been further intensified by the burning of fossil fuels,

    The oil addiction has led to wasteful spending and has been a cause of our interest in the middle east on top of the nation building. In order for this nation to become independent and internally strong we have to get off of foreign oil and bring our men and women home!

    This debate has been poorly executed and moderated with a high level of unprofessionalism. Walter Cronkite is rolling over his grave with the agenda that not only this debate has had but the previous ones as well. The moderators are bias and stuck up and I feel tonight Williams and Harris keep propping up Perry because they know he is an inept fool and would get crushed head to head against Obama. He’s so much like our 43rd president but looks a little more like Ron Reagan.

    As a Paul supporter since 2007, I can’t believe after Jon Stewart exposing the media ignoring Paul, that in the first debate following that notion, that Herman Cain and Newt got more face time and questions. Williams truly let me down and this proves he should stick to a prompter and bring laughs over late night.

    The debate didn’t cover foreign policy at length and did we really need the 20 mintues of border fence talk? Paul gave a great answer that will be overly ignored by the post debate coverage on that topic anyway. Where does the campaign go from here?

    The media hyped Perry and made this debate a self-fulfilling prophecy by asking him and Mitt all the questions and have the gall to saw afterward that the debate was all about Perry!!!! Duh because they made it that way. Report and ask questions to everyone! Stop shaping the race as a reality TV show where Image over Substance always takes place.

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  20. Cassie Bella

    I can’t believe this debate…if it can even be called that. The “Debate” is nearly over and most of the questions have been addressed to Romney, Perry and Bachmann. This is ridiculous!!!! The few times a questioned was addressed to Dr. Ron Paul, the manner of address has been disrespectful. The moderators look like clowns up there with so many facial expressions. Well, I can’t say I didn’t really expect this kind of moderation. It was held on MSNBC…

    Wow! How generous Dr. Paul was given the last question of the “Debate.” Of course, he gave a great answer to the welfare question!!! People will need to educate themselves on Dr. Pauls views and stands. There are many videos on you tube dating back to the 1980′s. His ideas and concerns are the same ones he holds today(sound money, limited gov’t, etc). No status quo here!!!

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  21. Scarecrow

    worst debate ever.

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  22. Trollman

    Ron Paul is getting pwwwwned. Sounds like a sad stuttering old man. Never been to this site before, won’t be back. Just had to come to laugh at you freaks.
    Peace.

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    1. Trollkiller

      Trolldouschebagboy: baaaaaaa bbbaaaaaa. That is the sound you make

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      1. trollman

        @trollkiller, I am actually pretty certain that is the sound your mother makes when I am inside of her thrice weekly.

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        1. SWLMA

          If you have nothing intellectual to contribute, then get the f–k off the forum. Go back to your induced reality television and entertainment news, live your meaningless, empty life, and watch your country disintegrate because you have been brainwashed into believing that one administration (not our current philosophy) is responsible. You’ll be one of the first on the bread line, crying out like a victim, when you discover you had a chance to do something about it instead of living the status-quo life that you have been lulled into. People are on this forum to discuss new ideas and to reinvigorate the spirit that has been dulled down by generations wrought with political and economic subversion. If you do your research- study the history of our foreign policy and its main benefactors (it’s not the American people) and the birth of Corporatism (its emancipation in 1886 ), you might just wake up! If not, keep sleeping and leave the intellectual discussions to those not under the influence.

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          1. The Trollfather

            First on the bread line! That sounds great actually!

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        2. Debra

          That is totally unnecessary and rude. Dr. Paul would not approve of that kind of language. Get a gip. The idiot who spoke and got you angry has a right to be as stupid as he chooses.

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          1. SWLMA

            Debra, you’re right and I apologize to everyone for that display. My reference to the “bread line” was not inferring that the individual in question was a freeloader however, but rather that we are on the verge of an economic collapse that could literally lead to a return to the “bread lines” that can only characterize the 1930s depression era; a lot of individuals, not excluding myself, could end up on those bread lines. Thinking about this, I find myself frustrated and upset on how people continue to move on senselessly, without a critical thought, towards their own destruction.

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      2. SecondJon

        Your name calling and insults (“Trolldouschebagboy: baaaaaaa bbbaaaaaa. That is the sound you make”) add nothing to the discussion, and just make others think Paul supporters are dumb.

        It also doesn’t make any sense. Here’s someone who, albeit rudely, is a lone voice speaking the opposite of what everyone else here in the echo chamber is saying, and you’re saying he’s a sheep?

        The Paul supporters continue to propagate and whine about his “victim” status and speak of him as if he’s the messiah, working up into something that appears to non-Paul-devotees as a mantra-driven frenzy.

        Your reaction to any non-compliant comments is a real turn-off to those of us who aren’t Paul-devotees. How Paul supporters communicate is one of the biggest reasons more people like me don’t support him as a candidate: I don’t know people who can have a real discussion to promote Paul, it always dwindles into whining and name-calling.

        Please be aware that comments like this and many, many others on this page are actively hurting Paul’s potential support.

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  23. Michael Feldstein

    Almost forty minutes into this debate and it’s basically been Perry and Romney. Moderators are salivating at their rhetoric and bs likes it’s anything new. Paul has been addressed once! Currently third in the poles and he is being treated like a potted plant. Silly jokes and back and forth banter about who said what when has been wasting too much of this debate.

    The Politico moderator is rude and just showed no respect for Congressman Paul. All of them mis-misquoting letters of the past for the simple use of sound bites. They are not talking about the hard hitting issues and even our former speaker of the House has called the moderators out for trying to make this debate look bad for Democratic party gain.

    This has been a beat around the bush debate and Paul amongst a few others aren’t being given a fair shot to get in and when they finally do the moderators have made Paul look frustrated and aloof, which is simply not who he is. Perry is a low life for the Reagan-Paul dig. With only an hour left I am very concerned if Paul’s message will have a chance to spread given the current state of this forum.

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  24. Anna

    I’m sure the advisors are doing a great job at what they need to do but I humbly suggest the following, because I don’t see it getting addressed: According to voter demographics Paul does least well with the older crowd, I think it’s because they’re afraid for their social security and other entitlements..they have no idea how those programs would play out in a Libertarian system. Dr. Paul should address this.

    Also, slowing down his speech has been mentioned by supporters on the Blue Republican thread, I have to agree. Paul is a genius, but most of the viewers are not, talk to the masses. Give examples on how things would work and his position will be less frightening.

    Also, his alleged “racism” has been playing hard on the internet, people don’t understand the Libertarian position on the Civil Rights Act, he needs to clarify this.

    These are the issues I’ve been running up against on the blogs, and I spend a lot of time out there….

    All the best Dr. Paul!! We’re going to be watching eagerly in support!

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  25. Luz E Rivera

    I will be watching in Direct TV MSNBC. Thank you.

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  26. LET FREEDOM RING

    *r(EVOL)ution * Liberty * Ron Paul * 2012 * Freedom* Constitution * rights *

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    1. SecondJon

      Out of curiosity, why the (EVOL) in the tag line? I know it’s a mantra among Paul supporters, but I’ve never had it explained – is Paul really for a rution, removing the “evol”? Or is this to spell “Love” backward in the word revolution, as if Paul is running on a “revolution of love”? If so, what is that about, I’ve never heard Paul talk about running on “love.”

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