Who Won the Republican Debate at the Reagan Library?

Who won the debate?

  • Ron Paul (89%, 8,372 Votes)
  • Mitt Romney (3%, 319 Votes)
  • Rick Perry (3%, 262 Votes)
  • Jon Huntsman (2%, 170 Votes)
  • Newt Gingrich (1%, 124 Votes)
  • Herman Cain (1%, 112 Votes)
  • Rick Santorum (0%, 31 Votes)
  • Michele Bachmann (0%, 29 Votes)

Total Voters: 9,416

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  • Kate

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  • The Dolfingurl

    You gotta ask yourself why did Rick Perry decide to join the race, just when Dr. Paul was about to win the Iowa straw poll. He’s a corporate puppet, and the media showed everyone that during the debate, including his partner Romney. They are two peas in the same pod. I say we (Dr. Paul’s supporters) flood the internet, every chat, every forum, every comment everywhere just to circumvent the damn corrupt media circus sideshow. Let’s promote Ron Paul 2012 every way possible. Let’s get his message out and do all we can. Buck the system of pre-emptive, unconstitutional wars designed to profit a few. Buck the system that tells you to be on lookout for “terrorists”, etc. The entire system as it exists is a major threat to all our freedoms. The government should get it’s marching orders from the constitution, currently this is not the case. Don’t let the wealthy tell you who to vote for. Dr. Ron Paul has the best plan which will ultimately make America great again.

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    • PeoplePower

      He got jelous of Ron Paul lol, seriously I have no idea but he’s a total nut-case

      Go Ron Paul :-)

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  • Tractorhead

    I am willing to supoport any politician who is serious about getting big business, corporate money and their own personal finances and gifts from individuals out of politics. I believe that all candidates should be funded by the taxpayers and have equal cash to use in what ever form of media that they choose. nothing is going to change, it’s only going to get worse as long as elections continue to be bought. this is NOT what our founding fathers envisioned. It is shamefull. I think that Ron Paul is on the right track. Unfortunately even if he wins the senate and congress will fight him tooth and nail from both sides to keep their current cushy little system of greed and power functioning.

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    • http://google HARRY OLIVETO

      I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

      FACTS OF US POLITICS.

      DR.PAUL WOULD BE BETTER ADVISED TO RUN FOR A SENATE SEAT AS THE RACE TO THE TOP MIGHT PROVE TOO MUCH OF AN EFFORT AT HIS AGE.

      HIS SON WILL MAKE A GOOD US CEO WHEN TIME COMES.

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    • http://google HARRY OLIVETO

      I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

      FACTS OF US POLITICS.

      DR.PAUL WOULD BE BETTER ADVISED TO RUN FOR A SENATE SEAT AS THE RACE TO THE TOP MIGHT PROVE TOO MUCH OF AN EFFORT AT HIS AGE.

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      • Peter Molignano

        Harry, Harry, Harry, one can only wish at 50 to be in the kind of physical shape Ron Paul is at 75. He’s acting calmer and looks better than he did for the 2008 debates. He may have found the fountain of youth. Ron Paul is the One for 2012!

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    • Peter Molignano

      Ron Paul got 52% of the Reagan Library GOP Debate Poll last week; the closest to him was Romney with 16%. Don’t say he can’t win if the numbers prove otherwise. Your foolish remark may influence other foolish people out there.
      The truth is, if Dr. Paul becomes President, his message will gather such Positive force throughout America that people who never gave a damn, people who were totally jaded regarding anything going on in Washington, and the Congress itself, will feel the Spirit of America rise like it never did before (er, yes it did, just before Obama was elected, people had tears in their eyes thinking he could be the greatest president ever but he quashed that spark within days after his election – the Traitor). With Ron Paul upholding the Constitution people and Congress would know he’s the real deal and begin more and more to support him. After all, Congress and Senators are all on the take from lobbyists because they see America as a sinking ship, But with RON PAUL leading the parade everyone will take renewed pride in America. We need this man; please do not sell him short. Ron Paul in 2012.

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  • D Costa

    I agree with “ronshouldgoontheattack” that “Ron Paul needs to go on the attack and sell HIMSELF to those who are not on his side yet. His campaign did a great job with the Reagan ad, and Perry’s response even boosted Paul. But nobody is paying attention to that – the MSM buried the Perry response almost immediately. What he needed to do was, when asked in the debate whether Perry was really conservative, he should have said: “Listen – Perry is not conservative at all – he represents the status quo, as do the other candidates on this stage. I ask you, the american people, to look into their records and see for yourself. I am the only one who was endorsed by Reagan” etc. I’m sorry to say it, but he flubbed that opportunity and got off track talking about “social misfit.” I understand that he was marginalized and didn’t get half the attention that the others did, but he could have used that opportunity in a huge way if he had attacked, point blank, the other candidates – he should have pointed to Perry’s connection to the big Pharma that was peddling the Gardasil, etc. The others would have had to defend themselves and their records, which would have led to some Paul headlines next day. He needs to get down and dirty this cycle: his record is out there, he already spent the last campaign educating the people on his message”

    This is real good advice. I am a supporter of Dr Paul myself and feel that Ron Paul can win real big but he has to get more aggressive against these vultures who attack him.

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  • D Costa

    Dr Ron Paul is the only true statesman alive today. A man of principles. Those who can appreciate the truth can see how the corrupt establishment and media treat a good person. These dishonest individuals need to know that truth is more powerful than fraud, corruption, deception and lies.

    How the deceitful media treats this most precious politician and their efforts to marginalize him without allowing people to make their own decision about whom they want as their president is despicable.

    God bless Dr Ron Paul and his family and his supporters!

    Ron Paul for President 2012!

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  • Tom

    Just looked at a poll on MSNBC and according to them Ron Paul won with 109,221 votes to Romneys with 29,188 and Perry with 24,710.

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  • Peppi

    My advice to Ron Paul is to take off the gloves and go bare nuckles. If the moderators ask a meaningless question call them out on it. Don’t play their game, tell them that this is serious business and they shouldn’t be wasting good air time on trivia, then set your own agenda into gear.

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    • Peter Molignano

      I totally agree. Ron Paul must take the offensive.
      He should refuse to answer a stupid question like “Have you ever seen a ufo”, and tell commentator to “move along” and “I would appreciate the time allotted me to be added to my next answer” – he needs to be the Boss, take the Offensive, initiate the attack. He needs managing and rehearsing comebacks.
      It was great when he said Perry tried to mandate 12 yrlds take a drug for cervical cancer with an unprecedented Executive Order, but then he trailed off by saying something like “I just take issue with the Way it was done”. I found that statement almost whimpish. He could have said “… and if by some unbelievable quirk of fate you become president, what then, do you strive for Dictatorship?” “And why in God’s name should preventive medicine include drugs to begin with? If it’s preventive, I say as a holistic Doctor it should be diet that prevents future disease. Furthermore, what kind of human being would espouse taking a powerful drug in the hope that it would stave off the remotest (1 in 10,000) possibility of getting cervical cancer ten to 20 years in the future? How illogical is this? To my mind, only a total imbecile or someone who is on Big Pharma’s payroll. His bank accounts should be looked into.”
      I wish he would have said all that. God Bless Ron Paul 2012. Give me Ron Paul or Give me Switzerland.

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      • Gu77ed

        I have done some research on Switzerland in the last month or so.
        Things seem rather expensive there but otherwise, looks like a wonderful country. The fact that every house has government issued weapons seems to tie in to the fact that there is virtual no violent crime there.
        New Zealand sounds nice as well, but it’s extremely difficult, I hear, to immigrate there. Other possible choices in quality of living are Australia and Germany.

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  • George

    I’d like to know what is going to happen for Rick “Globalist” Perry intimidating Ron Paul during a commercial break for pointing out what a Bilderberg piece of Corporate owned piece of trash he is?

    That alone shows how scared they are of Ron Paul. Already being threatened on stage in front of an audience shows their fear of him.

    Seems we are on the right track Ron Paul.

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    • PeoplePower

      The globalists are scared because they know it’s Ron Paul for 2012!

      Ron Paul :-)

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  • George

    People think that Ron Paul’s views and opinions are radical. That’s only because they have been spoon fed that the worst scenario is the norm.

    The public voters are well known to be undereducated and buy all the vomit that the TV tells them to believe.

    Ron Paul is the ONLY person that will change anything. ALL others are the corporate owned minions doing their masters bidding. They have sold their soles for 30 pieces of silver.

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  • ronshouldgoontheattack

    By the way, I voted for Paul in this and every other online poll I have come across, but in reality, I think the establishment won this particular debate (look at the expression of the moderator from Politico on Ron’s Reagan response: same huge grin as Perry, and that moderator in particular was being Perry’s cheerleader – promoting his book, posing questions to him that were chances for him to sell himself, etc.

    On the Reagan response, Ron fell into their trap and gave a mediocre defense of himself (which still made him look bad), they went to commercial and then sprung the whole Reagan retrospective, with Perry the first to speak after it (subliminally undermining Paul and raising Perry). The problem here is this: the MSM establishment crowd are trying to bring out Perry’s record problems (that they know he will have to face) in the most amicable environment for him, he pretends to address them, and then they go away and the average viewer thinks they have been dealt with (cf. McCain’s tactic: address the attacks yourself = you look like the good guy and people forget about them).
    I think Paul really missed an opportunity to go after Perry at the jugular, and now that this debate is over and those questions are behind Perry, Dr. Paul will have an uphill climb reigniting concern over Perry’s past. It is so transparent to me as a Paul supporter that the political and corporate establishment have already chosen their guys, the other RP and Romney, and they are painting Perry as the conservative Tea party man so that the average voter thinks he is choosing between two options, when in reality, if you see Romney’s response to the Perry Gardasil issue, they are buddies and on the same team.
    However, this is not obvious to the average voter, and if our RP doesn’t strike down that falsehood every chance he gets by attacking Perry, pointing out (not in a nuanced way but in a ‘make no mistake’ way) that the others are stealing his rhetoric and that he is the only true conservative, then he will be marginalized and the voters who want a conservative candidate will vote for Perry.
    At this point in the game, I believe that for him to have a chance, Dr. Paul absolutely must play tough – he cannot afford to be nice and low key, or make subtle references to things that his followers will notice but will fly over the heads of the average voter (i.e. the way he ‘puts down’ and challenges his opponents).
    Make no mistake: I admire Paul’s kindness, but to win this election he MUST make strong statements against the other candidates, and he must rehearse some sound bites and focus on his presentation and the way he comes across.
    He should have forceful convictions, not just about his ideas (which of course he does) but about HIMSELF as the holder of those ideas.
    His ideas are already out there and everyone who looks can see his record – now is the time to sell himself emphatically and vigorously, and not shy away from self promotion.
    One example of this: when Perry brought up his letter, he should have asked the audience to read it for themselves, stating ‘when i say that the Governor is way to the left of Reagan, he responds by saying that Im more conservative?’, and turned it around into an attack on Perry and an example of his unwavering principles and true conservative bona fides. His actual response, although adequate enough for those of us who are his supporters, came across to everyone else as an attempt to justify a mistake, and left him appearing weak in the context of the debate.

    Please don’t respond by saying that I’m criticizing Paul – I am an ardent supporter. I just think that these things should be discussed,
    and anyone who is on his campaign staff should take what I am saying seriously and consider asking the good Dr. to work on a strategy of attack and follow through with what was started with the most recent campaign ad.

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    • ronshouldgoontheattack

      Any and every RP supporter: please reply to my comments. Thanks in advance!

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    • mtw999

      I agree somewhat, in that he was not the winner. He rambled around much worse than I had seen before and got caught up in their game. These are complicated issues to debate and these formats demand soundbite type responses. Ron seemed to have a problem with concise answers and he missed a few opportunities, as you pointed out. I wish his handlers would remind he repeatedly before he goes on stage “Concise! Stick to the question and only drop back to previous questions if you can refute someone in a CONCISE fashion!”
      I will be voting for Ron as long as he is on the ballot and if Repubs don’t like him “stealing” votes in the primary, should he run there anyways, they should put worthy candidates on the ballot instead of the current crop of big government progressives. However, Ron has had better performances.

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      • mtw999

        I meant “stealing votes in the general”

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  • ronshouldgoontheattack

    I’m a Ron supporter, but listen to me clearly: he needs to go on the attack and sell HIMSELF to those who are not on his side yet. His campaign did a great job with the Reagan ad, and Perry’s response even boosted Paul. But nobody is paying attention to that – the MSM buried the Perry response almost immediately. What he needed to do was, when asked in the debate whether Perry was really conservative, he should have said: “Listen – Perry is not conservative at all – he represents the status quo, as do the other candidates on this stage. I ask you, the american people, to look into their records and see for yourself. I am the only one who was endorsed by Reagan” etc. I’m sorry to say it, but he flubbed that opportunity and got off track talking about “social misfit.” I understand that he was marginalized and didn’t get half the attention that the others did, but he could have used that opportunity in a huge way if he had attacked, point blank, the other candidates – he should have pointed to Perry’s connection to the big Pharma that was peddling the Gardasil, etc. The others would have had to defend themselves and their records, which would have led to some Paul headlines next day. He needs to get down and dirty this cycle: his record is out there, he already spent the last campaign educating the people on his message.
    Now it is time for him to play politician, and clearly and concisely attack the others and sell himself (he also missed the boat with Perry’s ‘gotcha’ Reagan point in the eyes of most viewers, as well as the focus of the moderators on ‘Fed Up’ which he should have immediately pointed out as a rip off of ‘End the Fed’).
    Honestly, I was disappointed that he didn’t use the language of Jesse Benton about Perry adopting ‘Tea Party swagger.” I pray that his campaign takes note.

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  • http://www.ronpaul.com John Rachal

    It amazes me how many people fall for the same old, same old!!!!!
    “Perry really sounded good”. Or, “Bachmann has my attention”.
    Come on sheeple, please pull your heads out and get a fresh breath
    of air!!!!! It is this kind of thinking that has got us to where we are!
    This is it!!!!! We cannot possibly handle another 4 years of the
    same old, same old! RON PAUL 2012!!!!!

    Louisiana Creole

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  • Annis Isbell

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    • Tony Hughes

      No one’s above the law.

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    • ronshouldgoontheattack

      What did you hear?

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  • PeoplePower

    Hmm was it Ron Paul ? he’s won everything else, Ron Paul for 2012 !!

    Go Ron Paul :-)

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    • Jared

      Come on. That debate was COMPLETELY unfair! They baited him to attack perry multiple times y asking about perry’s policy and he only had 7 minutes of screen time and the one time he did respond that everyone thought was crazy was about a fence keeping us in. What happened when the great wall of china got built? It got knocked down and forgotten! What happened to the berlin wall? TORN to SHREDS! Wake up america. A fence won’t save you it will enslave you. Time and Time again.

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    • http://www.drudgereport.com ray

      Can we get some of that awesome shit you’re smoking?

      Rick Perry is Nothing More Than Bilderberg Scum.
      Rick Perry is another RINO Bilderberg pawn sent to steal the Republican nomination by pretending to be a hardcore conservative.

      Rick Perry is for open borders.
      Rick Perry agrees with forced vaccination of your teenage daughters.
      Rick Perry invests in teenage bi-sexual pornography.

      Rick Perry is a “big government” politician. When Rick Perry became the governor of Texas in 2000, the total spending by the Texas state government was approximately $49 billion. Ten years later it was approximately $90 billion. That is not exactly reducing the size of government.

      The debt of the state of Texas is out of control. According to usdebtclock.org, the debt to GDP ratio in Texas is 22.9% and the debt per citizen is $10,645. In California (a total financial basket case), the debt to GDP ratio is just 18.7% and the debt per citizen is only $9932. If Rick Perry runs for president these are numbers he will want to keep well hidden.

      The total debt of the Texas government has more than doubled since Rick Perry became governor. So what would the U.S. national debt look like after four (or eight) years of Rick Perry?

      Rick Perry has spearheaded the effort to lease roads in Texas to foreign companies, to turn roads that are already free to drive on into toll roads, and to develop the Trans-Texas Corridor which would be part of the planned NAFTA superhighway system. If you really do deep research on this whole Trans-Texas Corridor nonsense you will see why no American should ever cast a single vote for Rick Perry.

      Rick Perry claims that he has a “track record” of not raising taxes. That is a false claim. Rick Perry has repeatedly raised taxes and fees while he has been governor. Today, Texans are faced with significantly higher taxes and fees than they were before Rick Perry was elected.

      Even with the oil boom in Texas, 23 states have a lower unemployment rate than Texas does.

      Back in 1988, Rick Perry supported Al Gore for president. In fact, Rick Perry actually served as Al Gore’s campaign chairman in the state of Texas that year.

      Between December 2007 and April 2011, weekly wages in the U.S. increased by about 5 percent. In the state of Texas they increased by just 0.6% over that same time period.

      Texas now has one of the worst education systems in the nation. The following is from an opinion piece that was actually authored by Barbara Bush earlier this year….

      • We rank 36th in the nation in high school graduation rates. An estimated 3.8 million Texans do not have a high school diploma.

      • We rank 49th in verbal SAT scores, 47th in literacy and 46th in average math SAT scores.

      • We rank 33rd in the nation on teacher salaries.

      Rick Perry attended the Bilderberg Group meetings in 2007. Associating himself with that organization should be a red flag for all American voters.

      Texas has the highest percentage of workers making minimum wage out of all 50 states.

      Rick Perry often gives speeches about illegal immigration, but when you look at the facts, he has been incredibly soft on the issue. If Rick Perry does not plan to secure the border, then he should not be president because illegal immigration is absolutely devastating many areas of the southwest United States.

      In 2007, 221,000 residents of Texas were making minimum wage or less. By 2010, that number had risen to 550,000.

      Rick Perry actually issued an executive order in 2007 that would have forced almost every single girl in the state of Texas to receive the Gardasil vaccine before entering the sixth grade. Perry would have put parents in a position where they would have had to fill out an application and beg the government not to inject their child with a highly controversial vaccine. Since then, very serious safety issues regarding this vaccine have come to light. Fortunately, lawmakers in Texas blocked what Perry was trying to do. According to Wikipedia, many were troubled when “apparent financial connections between Merck and Perry were reported by news outlets, such as a $6,000 campaign contribution and Merck’s hiring of former Perry Chief of Staff Mike Toomey to handle its Texas lobbying work.”

      Rick Perry has a record that should make all Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians and Independents cringe.

      He is not the “conservative Republican” that he is trying to claim that he is. He is simply another in a long line of “RINOs” (Republicans in name only).

      If Rick Perry becomes president, he will probably be very similar to George W. Bush. He will explode the size of the U.S. government and U.S. government debt, he will find sneaky ways to raise taxes, he will do nothing about the Federal Reserve or corruption in our financial system and he will push the agenda of the globalists at every turn.

      Look, the truth is that another four years of Barack Obama would be a complete and total nightmare.

      But so would four years of Rick Perry.

      America deserves better than the “lesser of two evils”.

      Unfortunately, the American people have been dead asleep and have been sending incompetents, con men and charlatans to Washington D.C. for decades.

      Hopefully things will be different in 2012.

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  • Frank B. Stahl

    I think the best way for Ron Paul to win this primary will be to start an anti-apathy campaign online geared toward younger voters. If every one who likes Ron actually went out to vote we would win buy a landslide.

    Ron Paul is Americas best hope for the future. We have to go vote because there are many people with lots opinions that never even show up.

    SHOW UP for PAUL!!

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  • jmatthews

    The first mistake anyone made was that MSNBC was going to be fair. MSNBC is about as fair as a fight between an MMA pro fighter vs. a one armed parapalegic.

    The fact that the GOPs were actually asked good questions and allowed to give their points of view (some more than others) was surprising. Ron Paul was sidelined, but that’s becaues both Dems and GOPs are scared s**tless of the rising Libertarian party popularity.

    Of the GOPs that were at the debate the only two who were able to hold their stance against the questions and the lashes of other rivals were Mitt Romney and Rick Perry. Of those two the one who stood out was Mitt Romney. I Personally believe that, even with all of the media frenzy that’s going on, Perry is going to burn bright but fizzle quick. His newness factor is going to wear off and then we’ll see him for what he really is; a liberal in GOPs clothing.

    That’s my opinion, take it for what it is. I’m sure everyone has their own.

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  • bob gomez

    Libertarian here since the early 70s. Long time libertarian voter. What I don’t get about neo-libertarians is: If you are afraid of big government you SHOULD be afraid of big business too. No difference when they get huge. Free enterprise needs to exist hand in hand with trust busting. Without that message Paul looks like an extremist. I’m with him totally on foreign affairs, military, sex, drugs, less government. But lets be clear “regulations” are to the common man “laws.” We are prevented by government from swindling our neighbors. We have to prevent the fictional legal entities known as corporations from swindling people too. Corporation are bigger and more powerful than some countries now. So NOBODY won the DEBATE. If Paul continues to tack an extremist line he will continue to lose.

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  • Bart

    Just left a comment to MSNBC at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285339/
    Let them know what you think!

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    • Jim

      Left them a nice note.

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  • Bart

    I just sent a comment to MSNBC letting them know what I thought of their so called debate. You can do the same here : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285339/

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