118 responses to “Ron Paul in Fifth Place at Presidency 5 Straw Poll in Florida”

  1. fiber to the home construction

    Should he be getting this? Or this one is a miracle turn in the placing in the political chair. We If he is really the one the people really deserves then that would be a very good thing to happen.

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  2. ray

    To: Jessie Benton, et al
    If ever Ron Paul has a chance to fatally wound Newt, it is by simply going after Newt’s puppeteer SHELDON ADELMAN!
    In quick 30 second ads:
    (slow zoom onto a pic of “sleazy looking” Sheldon Adelman with his much younger-looking, blond showgirl third wife–Miriam)
    Audio: This Las Vegas couple, having made their billions from Las Vegas vice, is now betting 10 million dollars, on Newt Gingrich’s power grab for The Presidency of your country.
    American Voters! Please! Just Google Newt Gingrich’s Puppeteer, Sheldon Adelson. Research how he got his billions— also Adelson’s obsession for war with Iran and also who Sheldon’s puppeteer is?
    Then ask yourself, “What will Adelson demand in return on his investment—once he has bought the White House for his puppet, Newt Gingrich?”
    And what a bombshell of an Ad! It will be played over by every media outlet in the country —it will go viral! And Ron will lose the Jewish vote–of which he now has a fart in a wind storm’s chance of getting, but he will get (see latest CBS poll) the attention of the 81% of Americans– Against War with Iran!
    There’s the Achilles Heel, of EVERY candidate—including Obama; all, so obsessed with that Miami vote that they are all getting sucked into untenable bellicose positions on IRAN. Ron can exploit what appears his weakness by attacking Adelson. The cards will fall where they may and he will gain a huge new following; from Right, Left and Middle.
    I was a Dr. Paul fan until others, in his name, started backing down on “…no more aid to Israel” Paul’s once candid honesty suddenly turned into a Romney like, flip-flop.
    This soon-to-be Israeli/US War on Iran this so needed debate and conversation can only begin with ex-soldier/doctor Dr. Paul’s courage (through attacks on Adelson/Gringrich) to reach out to the 81% not just that 2 ½% of Zionist Fifth-Columnist, who, with the infiltration of AI PAC’s Fein, Schiff plus Armageddon/Wead into your campaign, has of now virtually taken control of every single candidate’s Mid East Policy, including Obama’s.
    Taking on the US/Zionist warmongers will not win Paul the Presidency but alerting, bringing it into the debate could avoid The (Do No Harm) Doctor and all you volunteers and staff to forever carry, the blood of thousand of our boys and girls plus hundreds of thousands of innocent Iranians… why? Because you, (all of you?) like good German soldiers, said nothing.

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  3. paul1967

    read this…..

    I lived in NH most of my life. Over half the population of NH lives within the Boston MA media market or in a county that borders or is very close to MA. In my town, just 20 minutes from Boston, our biggest “local” newspaper came out of MA, our most popular radio stations were direct from Boston and our local news came from Boston as well. Possibly as much as 65%-75% of the population of NH is influenced by the Boston media market and with Romney being the governor there much of NH was inundated with news about him for years and years and early primary polls like this have a lot to do with simple name recognition at this point. The “Live Free or Die” mentality wasn’t something I noticed much living on the border, but was CLEARLY evident when I went to central or northern NH for any reason.

    All that being said, once the people of NH start hearing about Ron Paul more after an Iowa win and a non-stop presence in the state from the 3rd-10th, I think there is major potential for the state to swing to Ron Paul, especially in the northern counties with less MA influence.

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  6. Richard Cranium

    hahahahahahahahahahah ” a strong fifth” ? hahahahahahahahaha what a bunch of morns you are, thats like saying he was strong last

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  7. Gunner James

    So let me get this straight: Dr. Paul spends months winning, or placing in the top 3, in nearly every poll having to do with this GOP field and people barely mention him as a top tier candidate. Herman “the Fed-inator” Cain wins ONE straw poll (where votes had to be PAID for at that) and all of a sudden he’s a legit frontrunner for the nomination? What’s up with that?

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  8. Dawn Stevens Greene

    People could vote as many times as they were willing to pay.

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  9. Kiel Jaynes

    Ron Paul you have Florida’s vote. There is no reason to support foreign imperialism and the destruction of our dollar. You are an American Hero!!! Keep up the great work.

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  10. Jean-François

    (Suite from the last post)

    

    Cain stated that leading economists had ran the numbers regarding his 9-9-9 plan and said it would provide as much income as the current system, perhaps more. But on chris Wallace he still said that he cannot reveral their names…uh-oh…

    Mr. Cain repeatedly refused to name those bright minds when pressed by the show’s host, Chris Wallace.

    “The chairman of my economic advisers is a gentleman by the name of Rich Lowery of Cleveland, Ohio. He worked with a couple of other people quite frankly that are well known that I’m not at liberty to mention their names,” Mr. Cain said.

    “Why not?” asked Mr. Wallace.

    “Because they have their own independent businesses and I don’t want to compromise their confidentiality at this point. When they tell me it is OK to mention their names publicly, I will mention it. But I — trust me, it was a couple of people that you know very well.”

    Who is this “Rich Lowery?” Is he an Economics Nobel Laureate? A former high-ranking Federal Reserve official, like Herman Cain himself? Actually, the crack news team at the Spencer Daily Reporter of Spencer, Iowa reveals him to be Rich Lowrie, a wealth management adviser with an accounting degree.

    Lowrie, who has affiliations with the American Conservative Union and Americans for Prosperity, was a donor to Mitt Romney’s 2008 presidential campaign efforts, but has since drunk the pizza-sauce-flavored Kool-Aid — excuse me, the “pure rocket fuel” — of Cain’s economic policies. Of course, as an employee of a division of Wells Fargo, a firm that received $25 billion in TARP funds, Lowrie may not be the best spokesman for Cain’s free-market oriented policies. There’s another lesson Cain learned in the chain pizza biz: don’t let the diners get a close look at the sous-chefs.

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  11. Jean-François

    I finally found a detailed analysis of what the 9-9-9 plan would mean for 3 different families of 4 in the USA.

    http://www.grumpypolitico.com/2011/09/analysis-herman-canes-999-plan/

    With 30k/year Peter would lose a lot:

    Poor Peter Under The Current Tax Code

    Net Income Tax= NEGATIVE $8,662 (-28.9%)

    Payroll Tax = 6.2% or $1,860

    Net Federal Tax = NEGATIVE $6802 or about NEGATIVE 22%

    Poor Peter Under the Herman Cain 9-9-9 Plan

    Net Income Tax = $2,700 (9%)

    Payroll Tax = 0% (No Payroll Tax In Cain’s Plan)

    Sales Tax = 9% or an estimated $162 *

    Net Federal Tax = $2862 (9.54%)

    With 80k/year Joe and his family would pay an extra 2,400$ with the 9-9-9 plan :

    Average Joe Under The Current Tax Code

    Net Income Tax = $1,371 (1.7%)

    Payroll Tax = 6.2% or $4,960

    Net Federal Tax = $6,332 (7.9%)

    Average Joe Under Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 Plan

    Net Income Tax = $7,200 (9%)

    Payroll Tax = $0

    Sales Tax = 9% of estimated $17,018 in spending = $1532 * Net

    Federal Tax = $8,732 (10.9%)

    Willie with his 200k/year would save 15,000$/year however

    Now lowering the taxes is a good idea, but 90% of the Americans would pay MORE taxes with the 9-9-9 plan

    How about the budget deficit now?

    What does he propose to cut? SS? he didn’t say this. Food stamps? He said that he support this. The military budget? He is for a more aggressive policy in the Middle East. The EPA? Yes! And the EPA represents 10 $billion/ year, less than 1% of the actual budget deficit.

    But would the 9-9-9 plan bring more revenues to the government? I did a summary calculus and it is likely to bring less revenues (I wont give the detail today, but I can if necessary). Suite in the next post

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  12. donotelectperry

    The media can not stop our voices. Ron needs help on his phone bank. Go to the website Ron Paul 2012. Scroll down to the map of the states and click on yours. Fill out the info. His campaign committee will call you and then e-mail you the info for your computer and phone. A ticket to a straw poll costs $$$ this costs nothing. All you young people that are computer savey post this info everywhere you can on the web. Whether you can make 1 call or 100 calls every one helps his cause. Let our voices be heard all around the country!

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  13. Kelly Altovilla Alford

    I lived in the south. Might as well call florida, south. It was a 4 hr drive from my door. In the event, I have become racist. Southern blacks are racist. ..my point, youll never change the way they think over there. The east coast is full of overly polite morons. We cant expect idiots to vote for Ron Paul. They probly lied about the votes anyway. They already have the next.puppet picked.

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  15. mybroswiv

    Ron Paul did not even show up. Still beat out Bachmann. My guess is the media knows Bachmann will be dropping out soon. So they need 3 people to talk about 24/7. Now they have Cain, Perry, Romney. I`m sure Cain, Perry, Romney, Paid for most their votes.

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  16. AntiCollectivist Chris

    In order to vote in the Florida Presidency 5 Straw Poll, you had to pay the Republican Party of Florida a bribe of $175. It was a tough decision for me because I knew the money would be used to support the war machine. That being said, I bit the bullet and cast my vote for the only chance our country has. I was told when they were planning this thing that they put the high price tag on it to keep Ron Paul supporters out.

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    1. mybroswiv

      @AntiCollectivist Chris I watched a video from last year of Romney people voting multiple times. So why did they switch it up this year?

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  17. Herman Cain/Ron Paul

    The ideas of Ron Paul
    are the best of them all.

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  18. David Garcia

    Ron Paul won no matter what they say. Herman Cain is pro-homeland security etc.. Ron Paul is against homeland security. Ron Paul = Constitution. Herman Cain = violation of Constitution. Ron Paul 2012!

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  19. Scott Robert

    How fucking stupid are the people in Florida? This is how stupid… Herman Cain? And no I’m not a racist, I’m just rational and educated!

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  20. Troy Honaker

    If this was faked, why Cain? Are they trying to shove this guy out there as the leader now? Cain came from the Federal Reserve, I don’t thnk he’s going to be any different than Perry or Romney.

    Jake we gotta make the lie public. All I have is Alex Jone’s screen shot. He’s only one person. We need more people with screen shots. I wish I would have had a screen shot this time. I had one before when a graph was manipulated to make Paul’s amazing lead look smaller.

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  21. Jake Maynard

    In other news wallstreet is being over run with protesters by the thousands , but the media isn’t going to tell you that either. Wish I could join them but I have a pregnant woman at home to watch after. Please do your part

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  22. Jake Maynard

    I saw the online fox poll before the debate.. Ron Paul had 50% of the votes and was in the lead before the debate even started but they took the poll down

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  23. Realistically

    Seriously, this 2012 administrative team is the last economic hope for the United States and Americans:

    - President Michele Bachmann (Current Chair of the Tea Party Caucus in Congress, and on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence that overseas the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency. Bachmann is a strong Libertarian-Conservative in a heavily Democrat state)

    - Vice-president Newt Gingrich (Successful Speaker of the House during the 1990s, which is very relevant in the Vice-presidential role of being President of the Senate)

    - Secretary of State Mitt Romney (Businessman and former Governor of Massachusetts making Romney an excellent representative for US Foreign Affairs. Romney is the most left leaning candidate of the GOP candidates)

    - Secretary of Treasury Ron Paul (Career Congressman from the strong GOP state of Texas. Paul is an advocate of reducing government spending and abolishing the Federal Reserve Bank. At the age of 76, Paul will be retiring from congress)

    - Secretary of Commerce Gary Johnson (Businessman and former Governor of New Mexico. Johnson, a strong Libertarian, is an advocate of abolishing the current tax system and implementing a consumption tax)

    - Secretary of Energy Rick Perry (Current Governor of Texas, which produces more energy than any other state and has a GSP that makes it the 11th largest economy in the world. Texas is home to the city of Houston, which is known as the energy capital of the world)

    “Recession is when your neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose yours. And recovery is when Barack Obama loses his.”

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  24. John Craig

    plus florida is jew heaven,. they hate paul.

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  25. John Craig

    no big deal hernan cain has a lot of support from florida.I think he is from there and has done a lot of appearences with west there. he and allen west have that state blinded.

    ron will win

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  26. Suzanne Kupersmith Stapler

    Actually we are in another four years of Perry with Obama plus the 8 from Bush. Cain is just as bad as Perry and Romney and all the others EXCEPT RON PAUL.

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  27. Justin Cuomo

    Herman?! wow what an upset! interesting outcome. at least it wasn’t perry or romney.

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  28. Michael Sepulveda

    We already had 8 years of Perry, it was called the Bush administration. Cain is a decent candidate but has zero chance at winning and will only tow the line and do what he’s told of he is elected. Its sad that the media is doing whatever it takes to quiet Ron Paul! We need to speak up! This OUR country! We need to make a stand! I don’t need a British billionaire controlling how I think and feel and who I should elect as president of MY country!

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  29. Benjamin W. Blair

    Beat by Rick Santorum? What kind of bull plop is that? I’ve lost all faith in the republican party

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  30. Amy Root

    Let’s not forget that Floridians are idiot.

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  31. David Tarrant

    There’s no way the results could be accurate. The Tea Party is supposed to be a bunch of racists.

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  32. Jared Pavelske

    Means nothing. Straw polls are the worst indicators of how a candidate is doing.

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  33. Debbie LeBlanc

    Interesting ~ from “End the Fed” to voting a former Federal Reserve (Bank of Kansas City) Chairman, Herman Cain, as winner in the Orlando Straw Poll. I don’t believe it.

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  34. Lillian Sarno Bradley

    It’s my understanding it costs $750 to cast a ballot and you can vote multiple times, and that is a reflection of Perry’s showing. I think this was purchased. This is also Cain’s stomping ground. He can’t do this anywhere else, and hasn’t. So take Cain out and consider that Perry loaded the voting box. Looks about right.

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  35. The 36912 Diet

    Florida has done it again.

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