Hey guys, Im running for Delegate in my 1st district, in support of Ron Paul.
Please, do everything you can to support Dr Paul and the REVOLUTION!
The question isn’t if he can win in Iowa, but if he can win without MSM coverage. When he does win will we then see more then 89 seconds in a dabate or more then 4 mins on national TV. What will fox news do when Dr. P Paul wins in Iowa? How far will some go to ignore voters.
POLL: Who won the 11/19/2011 Thanksgiving Family Forum GOP debate debate in Iowa?
Dr. Ron Paul can win in IOWA. Next week we have CNN Debate on Foreign Policy sponsored by NEO CONS – Heritage and AEI. It is time for Dr. PAUL to directly communicate that other clowns will take to country to war with Iran but he won’t!! Dr.Paul – please stop being nice and go after others. The voters need to see the contrast on national TV.
The current CEO – Obama instead of being in the country to address the debt issue, record unemployment, etc. went to Australia to put more troops in Australia to counter China. We are trying to counter China when we are completely BROKE!! Here we have a pauper flaunting his Air Force one throughout the world.
Actually, the funding for Air Force One may be coming from China as well since according to Erskin Bowles, all of our revenue last year was spent on entitlements, interest on Debt, and Social Security alone!! So, all discretionary spending such as education, R&D, Defense, etc. is based on Borrowed money. Nice way to run America!!!
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3) I haven’t found any place where Ron talks about how ridiculous it is that corporations are “people”, and how damaging this is to our freedoms. Corporations buy politicians! – with the full support of our supreme court!!! They have essentially legalized bribery! This is wrong and ludicrous. I know Ron wants to put a cap on corporate taxes (15%), but I haven’t heard him talk about closing those corporate tax loopholes and making the rich pay their fair share. It is not fair that Wells Fargo and At&T pay ZERO tax while you and I pay 25-38% .Has he spoken out about this and I just haven’t seen it yet? This is the cornerstone of the “occupy” movement, and the reason so many are angry and want to see meaningful change. They should not cut social programs for the 99% unless they are also going to make the 1% pay a FAIR share of the tax burden!
I don’t have a lot of time to read every blog or watch every Youtube video, and I’m trying to learn more so I can feel confident in my support. I’d love to hear if anyone can share where Ron has talked about points #2 & # 3 above. (Don’t really care to engage in debate about point #1. It’s all been said before…) Thanks in advance if you have any info to share.
@lereshan I am a capitalist. Not a rich guy but I do have a net worth over $1,000,000 and I paid all my taxes. I have been a capitalist from when I had less than $1,000 to my name in my 20s to now in my 50s. As a stock owner and mutual fund owner, I do not urinate in my own beer. So I am not “against the corporation.” There is nothing for or against businesses forming. If you are against the limited liability status, you may have a point. I would say corporations have no more individual rights than individuals. The best thing to do is to add property rights as an individual right: The right to acquire and own property – not redistribute by force.
“Fair share?” You are certainly not a capitalist. Go to a democrat site. I recommend Kucinich. He has the same views as you. You want big government.
@SovereignGlobalist Interesting history you have. I’m really trying to understand, yet you keep telling me what I think when you clearly don’t know. I also invest in the stock market and try to look for companies I feel are socially responsible. So far it’s working out pretty well. I’m wondering about your “fair share” comment. Do you feel that it’s fair for corporations who earn huge profits to pay zero tax while you and I pay “all our taxes” as you put it? Or were all of your taxes zero because you used loop holes? Do you feel that the current tax system is fair and right? What is uncapitalistic about wanting big, rich corporations to not have so many tax loopholes so they can’t dodge their tax bills? (Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer my sincere questions (if you do) – I really am trying to understand why you keep suggesting we are so different.
@lereshan I use as many loopholes in the tax code that I can find. Quick calculation: My total combined federal and social security taxes is 15% right now. Add state to it and probably 19%. But judging by how much waste is out by the government (hundreds of billions spent on useless wars, foreign aid, cocaine mothers, subsidized housing), I am confident I pay my fair share. I try to get that amount down to under 15%.
@lereshan Ron Paul says that we can do without the individual income tax if we stop being the world’s policeman, bring down federal spending to the levels of 1996, and increase the tariffs to levels where it’s still not anti-trade, but parity with other nations.
@SovereignGlobalist The main question here is, do you think it’s right that, year after profitable year, huge corporations pay zero in taxes, while you pay 15-19%? From everything I’ve seen and read, it seems to me the super rich people in charge bribe politicians to legislate more tax breaks (write new tax laws) for the super rich. Then they dump the bill for all those wasteful programs you mention on the backs of the middle class (you and me). I totally agree with you on the wasteful government spending thing.
@SovereignGlobalist NICE!!! I love it!
@[email protected]Ron Paul is elected we have to clean up Congress and eliminate the favoritism, pork bellyism, back room deals and corruption. I am glad we are having these conversations. Time is running out fast and we are teetering on the brink of collapse if radical changes aren’t made. This forum has been a pleasure posting on. I may have missed it but I haven’t seen some of the hating, senseless waste of time comments on here like there is on Google and such. Could be that this is a smaller forum but I just wanted to say to everyone posting, I have learned a lot from your comments. Up until this point I just proxied my politics. I have smelled the coffee and I hope it isn’t too late.
@Beenthere @lereshan @SovereignGlobalist
It’s importent to be pacemt. Don’t scare the squares! The key is to make information avalible. Raise questions, press the established networks, be heard.
I have a problem with labels. I would also consider myself a capitalist but the word has morphed into a curse word. I would like to see the corruption in government cleared up no matter which side of the aisle. Ron Paul seems to have the mettle to do so. But no matter who wins, it is going to be a long and bumpy ride.
This message will be in 2 parts – due to the “character limit”.
There are so many things I like about Ron Paul’s message! End the wars, stop the out of control spending, radically scale back govt control of our lives (freedom!) and much more. On the other hand, there are 3 main areas of concern I have: 1) I am disappointed he’s not pro choice. I know this is a passionate issue on both sides and Ron is clearly not pro choice, which will hurt his chances with a huge percentage of women who insist on freedom to make choices over their own body. (I sometimes feel like I might be willing to risk this hard-won freedom in trade for fiscal responsibility and all the rest…?) 2) Is Ron going to insist on strong environmental regulation? This is about preserving our planet, the natural world, for our very survival. As David Brower said, ‘There is no business to be done on a dead planet.” I hope Ron understands that you are not “stimulating the economy” when you allow corporations to destroy the planet in the name of making money. I haven’t heard him say anything about his position on protecting the environment.
@lereshan First, I agree that I am very disappointed that Dr. Paul is not pro choice. Other than that, you should understand Ron Paul is a strict constitutional guy. Heavy regulation to protect the environment? Why don’t you vote Democrat instead? The Green Party is that way. If you expect Ron Paul to not be a capitalist, vote for someone else. There are plenty of Democrat anti-war types who love big government just as much as you do.
@SovereignGlobalist I’m glad to hear you also respect a person’s freedom over her own body. In regard to protecting the earth from destruction you asked, “Why don’t you vote Democrat instead?” Because I care about fiscal responsibility and freedom. I specifically DO NOT “love big government” as you put it. Why would you asume this? If someone cares about protecting the environment they cannot be a capitalist? That’s absurd. It’s not either/or when it comes to preserving the planet we all depend on for life and health. The media constantly pits people against each other (Dem/Rep – right/left – conservative-liberal) and they do this to keep us all fighting so we do not notice their corruption and the ways they are legislating money out of our pockets and in to theirs and destroying our planet in the name of commerce. There are many people who are Democrats or any other party who support the great changes Ron Paul is talking about. I find it especially interesting that you would say “…plenty of Democrat anti-war types…” when one of Ron Paul’s main promises is to end the terrible wars we are now waging. Are you an “anti-war type” or do you like war? I couldn’t be more pleased with Ron’s promise to end these wars. I think it’s time for all of us to work together to fix what’s broken, that includes our economy, war, the corruption between corporations and politicians and, yes, taking better care of our planet.
@lereshan Well I direct your attention to articles from The Cato Institute then. They explain how unregulated capitalism (selling the air, waterways, and roads) are more environment-friendly than government ownership. The river owner, for example, would charge more for higher polluters along the river than for those who pollute less, thus discouraging pollution. I too, love clean air, and want to breathe clean air. I happen to be a militant anti-smoker, and it’s basically as simple as closing my window while my downstairs neighbor stinks up the area outside.
I do not like war. I am anti-war. The USA would be far stronger economically and everyone of us would be more prosperous without the USA being the self-appointed cop. This is also a reason I am for Ron Paul.
I can understand frustration with some who have questions but I see no need to be nasty. Rich or pore, mean people suck!
As I understand it, Dr Paul believes in a smaller roll for the federal government. Giving more power to states, were your vote means more. Right? Without federal interference many issues like choice, pro choice can be discussed and legislated in a more community based setting. If there’s less power in the fed then it stands that there’s less power in the white house. Dr Paul’s views on choice is his own and should be respected. I believe abortion is a woman’s right. Like all rights much better to deal with on a state level. Secondly, most environmental issues can be broken down into a property rights issue. Because you own land or business next to mine doesn’t give you the right to pollut my land.
By eliminating agencies and regulations that are ineffective, laws and foreign policies that are unjust the rule of law is strengthened.
Your last statement refired a memory; last summer I attended one of Rep. Langford’s townhall meetings. He told a story about how he wrote a bill in order to eliminate a small agency that would save a couple of million dollars a year in tax payer money. In the grand scheme of things it wouldn’t really help matters much but it was a step in the right direction. The small agency happened to have the word “environmental” in its name. So, he really talked the bill up and explained quite clearly how the EPA and another agency (I can’t think of the name at the moment) would easily assume the smaller agency’s duties. When the vote came the bill was turned down. Later, when he asked other representative why they had voted it down the response was. Oh, I know your facts were correct but that agency has the name “environment” in it and my constituents would kill me if I voted against the “environment”. I am sitting here shaking my head.
@Beenthere @SovereignGlobalist @lereshan
I see, the idea of cutting female must mean you don’t care if people die in a natural disaster instead of there being a better way to handle disaster. Without the EPA who would enforce environmental law. Come to think who does now.
I did an OSHA job in New Jersey when I was starting college. Instead of compiling to osha regs they discuses to hire 6 electrician s to walk around for 8 hours a day. It was cheaper to fake it wile the lawyers fought the reg.
Fema not female t9 strikes again
@rickybobby So, I admit, I am typing without my glasses on. I don’t recall anyone’s post talking about eliminating FEMA. I hope you are not referring to my post because my point had nothing to do with eliminating any agency that would have significant impact on the environment. I am pro – environment. I am opposed to wasteful spending on either side of the aisle and even the aisle itself. The point was about duplicating the same efforts. A great waste of money. We need to strip the waste. Get rid of backroom deals, favoritism, pork bellyism, any greedism in order to be able to recognize in ten years hence, the freedoms we yet still possess.
I agree whole heartedly, but I am reffering to an interview with Dr Paul about just that; fema is a waist, but moot, with all the troops home and the army core of engineering avalible there is no use for fema.
Oh, I didn’t know that. Thanks. I am just now becoming familiar with Ron Paul. I have a lot to learn, but to me he is the candidate with the most promise. However, I must say, even if Moses himself were elected President, how in the heck can we clean up Congress? And I am pointing fingers at both parties. I am happy to see Occupy Anywhere people because it means a sort of revolution. I am old enough to remember the 50’s and 60’s. Change doesn’t usually come quietly although I hope it can be done peacefully and civilly. I had dove leanings back in the day but I can get hawkish if need be. Theodore Roosevelt said, “Speak softly and carry a big stick”. On that note, I am glad the troops are coming home!
If nothing else I would like to have a president I can respect. No more lies, politics as a dirty word. Politicians bought and paid for and it’s legal. Ive been reading and listening to Dr Paul lately and I like what I hear. The fed government is too big, too waistful, too corrupt. I can see how supporters can get crazy trying to explain principal to some people. How can an intelligent person defend the status quo. You don’t need a degree in psychology to know when someone is lying to you. Romney, Caine, bauckmen, Gingrich, Perry, Obama, what’s the difference? What really grinds me is the media, bought and paid for. It’s hard to stay calm watching pundents pass for journalists. If the last few months is how this works we don’t need debates anymore, just have talent contest.
Well, first Iowa and NH. If nothing after that then the end is closer then any of us fear.
WAIT, I get it now! Fox news is just bidding their time. When Dr. Paul wins Iowa and New Hampshire they’ll just say they were with us the whole time.
Ron Paul supporters,
“They may take our lives, but they will never take our freedom” William Wallace
In the entire GOP there is none like Dr Paul and his strict adherence to Constitutional principals.
WE can not afford any more Big Government “solutions” and the DEMS and GOP have nothing to offer except more of the same.
WE must rise up and make our voices heard and put Ron Paul over the top, the ONLY candidate for the 21st Century
God Bless Ron Paul 2012
Right on, Tim!!! In the words of William Wallace: “Every (one) dies, but not every (one) truly lives.” To me there is no ‘living” without freedom. William Wallace’s most important statement was, “FREEDOM!!!!!!” I’m sure all of Ron’s supporters know that times will be very difficult for the first few years trying to clean up the mess and bring the budget back in to balance, but there is no other way to get back to good. The thought of ending these corrupt and evil wars is a huge incentive to get Ron elected.
Go Ron, Go!
Ron Paul 2012!
Did everyone see the Herman Cain interview?
What the Hell was he smoking????
The press is getting worried, Dr Paul is gaining!!!!!!
Come through my town yesterday and lo and behold there were a group of folks marching down the sidewalk with Ron Paul signs. Now that is dedication. Romney, Cain, Newt, Perry or Bauchman could not accomplish that kind of support in a hundred years. I wrote an article about Ron and some how got it published in the editorial section of my local News Paper. I have had quite a few people tell me that the article changed their minds about the man and that they would now vote for him.
@w1945 That was one of my suggestions too. Write articles in your local papers and enjoy the wonderful responses. Volunteer in your precincts, place up signs with Ron Paul in your communities and put bumper stickers on your cars. Be inventive. Get the word out. And, with a knowlege of who Ron Paul is, we can open the eyes of so many different people who may of not considered him or thought that he is a viable candidate.
GO RON PAUL!!! YOUR SUPPORTERS ARE WORKING HARD FOR YOU!!!
Perhaps another constructive, peaceful tactic for Ron Paul supporters would be to boycott the ads/products that support the TV news outlets that continually ignore or skew info about him. Start phoning these news outlets directly with this idea–their offices and viewer call-in segments–and re-direct all of this energy from the internet and focus it on the TV MEDIA, which is doing more of the blackout than the internet. A Ron Paul bomb if you will. Petitions are very good tools too.
Msm cannot be ignored! With all the hard work of Dr Paul’s movement in Iowa and New Hampshire we can win primaries but without msm there is no gop nomination. Vote! This may be our last shot to save our American way of life. When the votes are counted the message will be spread. Real change is hard but worthy.
@[email protected]Ron Paul (I really like most of what I hear so far!) but I don’t understand your accronym Msm. Can you tell me what this means? Thanks!
People we need to step up as supporters. The media is hurting us bad. We have more spirit for this guy than any other candidate. We cannot let the media hold us down, for example my father is scared to vote for ron paul b/c he doesnt want to waste his vote. We have to get people to understand that the only way he can win is if we dont let the main stream media convince people he cant win and hes irrelevant. We gotta hit the streets and phones.
Thank you Liberty, we need more people like you!!
I really hope that people wake up and see that Cain is a joke and that Newt is more of the same!!
Ron Paul is not out to steal from the tax payers like Gingrich!!
Wake up America before its to late!!
Support Ron Paul!!!!!
Yes, he can… lets flood the debate! Spread the message of Ron Paul by home phone calling, signs, bumper stickers, talking to your friends, going door to door, and wear Ron Paul gear whenever you go out. We will take back this country the grass roots style!
Convince the hearts and emotions of people by talking about the economy first to people that don’t know about Ron Paul, or that are undecided.
Ron Paul 2012, for liberty, freedom, sound money.
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