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Ron Paul: Well, that’s one point of view, and that’s a healthy point of view, and a healthy discussion is a good American tradition, too. But it’s a private organization, so me being very much aware of what private organizations can do, I really don’t have much recourse. But I think in public opinion, people ask the question, “Why is he excluded?” and they say, “Well, he doesn’t say everything like anybody else”, but that’s what we need, maybe we do need a full discussion. And to paint it and say, “Well, maybe he’s not supportive of Israel, he’s anti-Israel”, that’s being dismissed rather carelessly and unfairly. So I’ve had my chance and we have a little bit of an access to the internet to explain my positions. So it may well appear here rather shortly.
Brooke Baldwin: Okay, so as it appears shortly, I also want to read something that you said not to long ago at a CNN candidate forum. You said, “Why do we have this automatic commitment that we’re going to send our kids and send our money endlessly to Israel? I think they’re quite capable of taking care of themselves”. Congressman Paul, with all due respect, that doesn’t sound like a candidate who will realistically challenge for the Republican nomination.
Ron Paul: Well, what you need to do is go and read the speech that Netanyahu gave on the House floor here just a couple of months ago. He said, “We don’t need American troops, we can take care of ourselves”. So that might be worth looking into. We don’t have a treaty with Israel and we should be friends with Israel and we should trade with them and do all these things. But to commit another generation, we don’t even have the right to do it. And if it’s necessary to be involved in a war, the President doesn’t make that decision, the people do through a declaration of war in the Congress. I don’t know what’s so extreme about following the rules and a little bit of decorum and being sensible about it. I worry about this carelessness of going to war anytime we want, that’s our greatest problem. We are involved in too many wars and we should be very careful on how we go to wars. But if Netanyahu says that he doesn’t need our troops over there, why am I not allowed to say that as well?
Brooke Baldwin: But, Congressman, with this stance, we’ve heard this from you that we are involved in too many wars. Is it implicated at all the box you find yourself in because you certainly have some very faithful supporters, your core group of supporters, but because you are so committed, so libertarian, that you’re forever unlikely to garner mass appeal.
Ron Paul: Well, I think America is in a box, we’re in a box with our national defense. We spend too much money policing the world, getting involved in nation-building. We’re going bankrupt, we have to borrow all the money we spend overseas, we’re in a financial crisis. America is in a box, I’m not in a box, I’m just telling the truth about what is going on.
Brooke Baldwin: But, Congressman, do you at all feel like you’ve boxed yourself in, and so come time for the rest of the country to vote for you, you’re not going to have that support en mass?
Ron Paul: I think you have it backwards, I think the American people are boxed in and they want out, and that’s why I get support. I get twice as much support as all the other candidates from the military, and they’re sick and tired of being boxed in, too. So I would say the boxing in is [happening to] the American people and the American tax payer with these unlimited commitments and going to war under United Nations and NATO. And when Obama went into Libya, he didn’t even console with the Congress. That’s being really boxed in, that’s what we have to deal with.