Ron Paul Gaining Steam in Iowa

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Neil Cavuto: The emergence of Ron Paul has stunned quite a few people in this state, where everyone has been focusing right now on Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney and how they slug it out for the nomination. But in this state, he’s the guy with the big momentum, and in the latest poll, he’s within just a percentage point of the presumed frontrunner here, that is for the moment, Newt Gingrich. The Texas Congressman joins me right now.

Congressman, what do you make of these numbers and what do you think of the possibility that you win this state?

Ron Paul: Well, I guess that’s very possible now, and the numbers are more or less what many of us in our campaign had expected, because we’ve been working to that end and we’ve been organizing and doing the things we’re supposed to. But I also think that there’s a very powerful message that we’ve been delivering and it’s very appropriate. I think the people do need some answers to our problems, and I’ve talked about our economics for a long time, I’ve talked about bubbles and how we got into this trouble and what we ought to do, and I propose significant cuts. And, quite frankly, I think we’re giving a lot of answers to the questions that so many people across the country are asking.

Neil Cavuto: You know, the one thing that happens when you become a frontrunner, or a near frontrunner, Congressman, is you also become a target. Newt Gingrich has discovered that, might you discover that tomorrow night?

Ron Paul: Well, that’s always possible, but for some reason, it seems like they’ve been pretty courteous to me. And I think they have worked out, at least on the assumption up until now, that they don’t want to offend my supporters because maybe they’d like to have an alliance with them. But no, I think you’re right, I think people who lead get a lot of criticism and I would think that I’ve been challenged on my views for a long, long time. Matter of fact, I’ve been challenged more than the rest of them have. And as long as they challenge me on the appropriateness of my views, I think I better be able to answer them. But I think I have the ammunition to defend a balanced budget and cutting spending and looking into the Federal Reserve; and finally addressing the subject of a runaway interventionist foreign policy which is draining us so much, and is a good place where we can cut some money that wouldn’t hurt our people back here at home.

Neil Cavuto: You know, Congressman, the last time I’ve been here in this fine state, and particularly in Sioux City, I got the opportunity (because we had it playing in the press room) of watching Iowa TV coverage and a lot of political commercials. And while a lot of the campaign ads that I see are sort of warm and fuzzy and back to America of old, and Newt Gingrich back to the good old days and America’s great (nothing wrong with that). Yours tend to be much more in-your-face, much more direct, much more issue-oriented. And given these problems, they seem to be resonating. But is that by design, as some of your opponents will claim, “Well, Ron Paul is just going negative”, or has that just been your style all along?

Ron Paul: Well, I think negative in a real negative sense is when you go after people and you demagogue and distort and fib and take things out of context and become personal. But to talk about people having different positions and having voted for certain things, I think that’s appropriate and very necessary. I think that’s one of my obligations to point to these things out in my opponents so they can see a difference. But they’re not going to volunteer and tell us, other candidates aren’t going to tell us about their shortcomings, nor does the media do a real good job all the time on bringing up the differences on the issues that I care about. So I think that’s my obligation to do that.

Neil Cavuto: You know, this has come at a time when some of the candidates who debated about being in the races versus not, are entertaining third party runs. Garry Johnson may be looking at a Libertarian run tomorrow with an announcement. And last night on this very show, Congressman, Donald Trump talked on the possibility of a third party run. I want you to hear this and respond to this.

Donald Trump Last Night: I am looking at it if the Republicans chose the wrong candidate, which is a possibility, and if the economy continues to be bad, which I think it will be because we have incompetent leadership.

News Anchor Last Night: Alright, so you’re raising the distinct possibility of running as in independent, then?

Donald Trump Last Night: That’s right.

News Anchor: What do you think about if he does that, if Governor Johnson does that, if anyone of the Republican candidates already competing do that?

Ron Paul: Well, I think for Trump, that’s just more attention getting, I don’t think it’s likely from the other candidates. But I think there is always that possibility. You know, there was a moderate liberal type of candidate in 1980, John Anderson, who ran as a third party candidate. So maybe if one of these other candidates that comes across as more moderate doesn’t make it, they’ll say, “Hey, you know what, so and so doesn’t fit the bill, I’m going to run”. So maybe there will be. And the American people are so frustrated, I can see the motivation of some people doing that, but I don’t think it’s limited to Donald Trump.

Neil Cavuto: You know, when I raise this very issue with your son, Senator Rand Paul, about you – because the rumors are out there and you never really have altogether squashed them – that you would run as an independent candidate if things didn’t go the Republican route. What do you say?

Ron Paul: Same thing I’ve said about 35 times, and maybe 10 times in your program. I don’t have a different answer, I have no intention of doing it. But I think what I was hinting to a minute ago was maybe you ought to ask some of those moderate Republicans that aren’t doing so well, maybe they’ll run as a John Anderson-type candidate more so than asking me that question. But my answer remains the same.

Neil Cavuto: Okay, so finally, your sense of this race in Iowa; do you think you have to win here, Congress, that this is where you put a lot of your upfront marbles, and that this is where you got to do it?

Ron Paul: I don’t think I would say I have to win it, but I must not come in in 5th place, or even 4th place. I have to do well. But right now, we’re doing very well and it makes us more optimistic and I think we’re very much in contention and that’s very good news for us.

Neil Cavuto: Alright, we’re looking forward to seeing you tomorrow. Congressman, thank you very, very much. Ron Paul.

Ron Paul: Thank you.

News Anchor: When we come back, a former CEO who knows … The emergence of Ron Paul has stunned quite a few people in this state, where everyone has been focusing right now on Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney and how they slug it out for the nomination. But in this state, he’s the guy with the big momentum, and in the latest poll, he’s within just a percentage point of the presumed frontrunner here, that is for the moment, Newt Gingrich. The Texas Congressman joins me right now.

Congressman, what do you make of these numbers and what do you think of the possibility that you win this state?

Ron Paul: Well, I guess that’s very possible now, and the numbers are more or less what many of us in our campaign had expected, because we’ve been working to that end and we’ve been organizing and doing the things we’re supposed to. But I also think that there’s a very powerful message that we’ve been delivering and it’s very appropriate. I think the people do need some answers to our problems, and I’ve talked about our economics for a long time, I’ve talked about bubbles and how we got into this trouble and what we ought to do, and I propose significant cuts. And, quite frankly, I think we’re giving a lot of answers to the questions that so many people across the country are asking.

Neil Cavuto: You know, the one thing that happens when you become a frontrunner, or a near frontrunner, Congressman, is you also become a target. Newt Gingrich has discovered that, might you discover that tomorrow night?

Ron Paul: Well, that’s always possible, but for some reason, it seems like they’ve been pretty courteous to me. And I think they have worked out, at least on the assumption up until now, that they don’t want to offend my supporters because maybe they’d like to have an alliance with them. But no, I think you’re right, I think people who lead get a lot of criticism and I would think that I’ve been challenged on my views for a long, long time. Matter of fact, I’ve been challenged more than the rest of them have. And as long as they challenge me on the appropriateness of my views, I think I better be able to answer them. But I think I have the ammunition to defend a balanced budget and cutting spending and looking into the Federal Reserve; and finally addressing the subject of a runaway interventionist foreign policy which is draining us so much, and is a good place where we can cut some money that wouldn’t hurt our people back here at home.

Neil Cavuto: You know, Congressman, the last time I’ve been here in this fine state, and particularly in Sioux City, I got the opportunity (because we had it playing in the press room) of watching Iowa TV coverage and a lot of political commercials. And while a lot of the campaign ads that I see are sort of warm and fuzzy and back to America of old, and Newt Gingrich back to the good old days and America’s great (nothing wrong with that). Yours tend to be much more in-your-face, much more direct, much more issue-oriented. And given these problems, they seem to be resonating. But is that by design, as some of your opponents will claim, “Well, Ron Paul is just going negative”, or has that just been your style all along?

Ron Paul: Well, I think negative in a real negative sense is when you go after people and you demagogue and distort and fib and take things out of context and become personal. But to talk about people having different positions and having voted for certain things, I think that’s appropriate and very necessary. I think that’s one of my obligations to point to these things out in my opponents so they can see a difference. But they’re not going to volunteer and tell us, other candidates aren’t going to tell us about their shortcomings, nor does the media do a real good job all the time on bringing up the differences on the issues that I care about. So I think that’s my obligation to do that.

Neil Cavuto: You know, this has come at a time when some of the candidates who debated about being in the races versus not, are entertaining third party runs. Garry Johnson may be looking at a Libertarian run tomorrow with an announcement. And last night on this very show, Congressman, Donald Trump talked on the possibility of a third party run. I want you to hear this and respond to this.

Donald Trump Last Night: I am looking at it if the Republicans chose the wrong candidate, which is a possibility, and if the economy continues to be bad, which I think it will be because we have incompetent leadership.

News Anchor Last Night: Alright, so you’re raising the distinct possibility of running as in independent, then?

Donald Trump Last Night: That’s right.

News Anchor: What do you think about if he does that, if Governor Johnson does that, if anyone of the Republican candidates already competing do that?

Ron Paul: Well, I think for Trump, that’s just more attention getting, I don’t think it’s likely from the other candidates. But I think there is always that possibility. You know, there was a moderate liberal type of candidate in 1980, John Anderson, who ran as a third party candidate. So maybe if one of these other candidates that comes across as more moderate doesn’t make it, they’ll say, “Hey, you know what, so and so doesn’t fit the bill, I’m going to run”. So maybe there will be. And the American people are so frustrated, I can see the motivation of some people doing that, but I don’t think it’s limited to Donald Trump.

Neil Cavuto: You know, when I raise this very issue with your son, Senator Rand Paul, about you – because the rumors are out there and you never really have altogether squashed them – that you would run as an independent candidate if things didn’t go the Republican route. What do you say?

Ron Paul: Same thing I’ve said about 35 times, and maybe 10 times in your program. I don’t have a different answer, I have no intention of doing it. But I think what I was hinting to a minute ago was maybe you ought to ask some of those moderate Republicans that aren’t doing so well, maybe they’ll run as a John Anderson-type candidate more so than asking me that question. But my answer remains the same.

Neil Cavuto: Okay, so finally, your sense of this race in Iowa; do you think you have to win here, Congress, that this is where you put a lot of your upfront marbles, and that this is where you got to do it?

Ron Paul: I don’t think I would say I have to win it, but I must not come in in 5th place, or even 4th place. I have to do well. But right now, we’re doing very well and it makes us more optimistic and I think we’re very much in contention and that’s very good news for us.

Neil Cavuto: Alright, we’re looking forward to seeing you tomorrow. Congressman, thank you very, very much. Ron Paul.

Ron Paul: Thank you.

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