546 responses to “Ron Paul: Founders Would Be Horrified by Pro-Obamacare Legislators”

  1. lkjgfr456ug

    ROOKIE
    STUDIES PREDICT THAT THE BLOW BACK THREAT TO RON PAUL 1 WORLD CURRENCY LEADS TO A PERNICIOUS GLOBALIZATION, FOLLOWED BY A POST POLAR WORLD of WARS OF MASS DESTRUCTION

    Ron Paul, Congressional Record, March 13, 2001

    Commodity money if voluntarily and universally accepted could give? us a SINGLE WORLD CURRENCY requiring no money managers, no manipulators orchestrating a man-made business cycle with rampant price inflation.” —

    Ron Paul, Congressional Record, March 13, 2001

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  2. crunchbite22

    “Even worse, some members will only challenge a president’s unconstitutional actions if the president is from a different political party.” Well said.

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  3. DeepRainforest

    Corporatism = Capitalism. Anybody who denies the rather obvious observation of real world data is playing a bullshit game of “No True Scotsman.”

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  4. bigtex1453

    Your the war monger. No me. I want peace and prosperity.

    You want war, death, starvation, famine, and big ass governments declaring military action all over the world against each other. No thanks. Criminal. Vote for your spaghetti dinner buddy Obama. He likes meatballs I hear

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  5. bigtex1453

    Wrong. He’s a corporatist working for the corporatist. Big difference. If your working for a capitalist you’re an employee. If you’re working for a corporatist you’re a government bureaucrat.

    Barack & Bush had dinner at your house last night. I wouldn’t feed either one of those two traitors. They are you’re good friends anyway. They like taking money and property from the People who produced it, and give it to you – whose done nothing but expect a handout from government for survival.

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  6. bigtex1453

    Wrong. He’s a corporatist working for the corporatist. Big difference. If your working for a capitalist you’re an employee. If you’re working for a corporatist you’re a government bureaucrat.

    Barack & Bush had dinner at your house last night. I wouldn’t feed either one of those two traitors. They are you’re good friends anyway. They like taking money and property from the People who produced it, and give it to you – whose done nothing but expect a handout from government for survival.

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  7. DeepRainforest

    Yeah, so you say. Communists say they’re all for joyful sharing.

    Don’t you think people can’t see past your Marxist/LOLbertarian bullshit?

    You’re the one who professes government aggression is necessary for your way of life, if it would just do it your way. Communists say the same shit.

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  8. DeepRainforest

    Your good friend Barak Obama is working for the Capitalists, as middle management to get more money into “higher, tighter, and righter hands” (as your buddy Bush said) exactly the way capitalism works.

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  9. bigtex1453

    Libertarianism believes in non-violence

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  10. DeepRainforest

    Oh, it’s you who send our sons to war, lover of city-STATISM (civilization.)

    “War is a staple of Civilization.”

    ~John Zerzan
    On the Origins of War
    scribd (dot) com/doc/20298938/Zerzan-The-Origins-of-War

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  11. bigtex1453

    It just came out. And the only way to see it is to buy the DVD online and have it shipped. And when Bush and Clinton were closing down farmers with your good friend Barrack Obama, and destroying private property in direct violation of the Constitution, and detaining farmers who resisted the USDA – were you still blaming that on Capitalism?

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  12. bigtex1453

    It just came out. And the only way to see it is to buy the DVD online and have it shipped. And when Bush and Clinton were closing down farmers with your good friend Barrack Obama, and destroying private property in direct violation of the Constitution, and detaining farmers who resisted the USDA – were you still blaming that on Capitalism?

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  13. bigtex1453

    Me glorifying this soulless corrupt cesspool of a government is like saying that you endorse the principles of logic and sound thinking. It’s just simply not there. I don’t think that this government is worth saving, it needs to be reformed. It needs a complete overhaul. A good 80% of your friends who want to steal our money, lie to us, send our sons to war without authority, all need to go find work somewhere other then Washington DC.

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  14. bigtex1453

    Me glorifying this soulless corrupt cesspool of a government is like saying that you endorse the principles of logic and sound thinking. It’s just simply not there. I don’t think that this government is worth saving, it needs to be reformed. It needs a complete overhaul. A good 80% of your friends who want to steal our money, lie to us, send our sons to war without authority, all need to go find work somewhere other then Washington DC.

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  15. DeepRainforest

    I’ve seen Farmageddon. I didn’t notice Bush or Clinton opposing agriculture. Did you?

    I did see Bush and Clinton operating as middle management for the big capitalists. Did you?

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  16. DeepRainforest

    You are the one who wants and glorifies government and all the good it will do for you.

    Not me. Government is for agricultural city-STATISTS like you.

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  17. bigtex1453

    Well they’re all criminals – your type of friends. You would know.

    Watch Farmageddon and tell me if Obama and Bush haven’t declared an all out assault on American farmers.

    CRIMINALS.

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  18. DeepRainforest

    Preach it, bro, cuz it works (in fantasy land.)

    By the way, clinton, bush, obama, and FDR are yours, ya’ll being agricultural city-STATISTS.

    At least I never heard of any of them speaking out against agriculture. Did you happen to? LOL

    “Agriculture creates government.” ~Richard Manning, Against the Grain, p. 73

    Read and learn, if’n it ain’t too much bother.

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  19. bigtex1453

    You’re the fraud and the criminal. You want government to take from the people so it can give your property to someone else.

    You’re the degenerate. Your the crook. Not me. I want you to keep the money you make so you can take care of your family. I don’t want it. nor do I want government to take it from you to spend it on things you find morally repugnant.

    Get your head out of your ass

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  20. bigtex1453

    Limited government. 3 functions. Protect the liberties of the people, provide for a national defense (not offense), and enforce contract & property rights.

    Not endless war like you want, or unlimited welfare programs like you adore, or the evisceration of our God given freedoms that you encourage, or the destruction of our purchasing power that you embrace.

    No thanks. You can have your Clintons, your Bush’s, your Obama’s, Your FDR’s, your LBJ’s and put them on the front lines in Afghanistan.

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  21. DeepRainforest

    Keep preaching it, bro, but in the end, both are just slightly different manifestations of aggressively invasive and occupational Agricultural City-Statism (civilization.) About as much difference as between a ford and a chevy.

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  22. DeepRainforest

    I’ve heard the preaching from the Market Fundamentalist scriptures. It’s bullshit. Just like Marx said communism is all about sharing right?

    You’re as much of a fraud as Marx.

    Communism is an observable disaster, and so is Capitalism. Not surprising, since both are just slight variations on city-STATISM.

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  23. bigtex1453

    Communism levies a tax against the people, centrally plans and produces everything at the government level, and demands the worship of the state.

    the two are polar opposites. Where you get this comparison…comes from planet Zeynon

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  24. DeepRainforest

    Quit your lying like Marx. You bullshit us that the Indians were doing agricultural civilization, but don’t mention it was only in a few areas that had collapsed. Which will happen to this particular style of agricultural city-Statism too.

    And yeah, you’re a BIG GOVERMENT LOVER. Look at your adoring words, basically admitting you love Government aggression to keep stuff you want.

    LOLbertarianism is “Government for me, but not for thee.”

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  25. bigtex1453

    Capitalism works on the simple premise that to me, the money I have is less valuable then the item that you’re selling. To you, the money I have is more valuable then the item that you’re selling.

    Capitalism works on voluntary exchange and voluntary association where both participants win. I get the TV I want at the price I want, you get the amount of money that allows you to continue business operations.

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  26. bigtex1453

    You’re messed up dude. I never said a thing about “non-State Indian tribes in the eastern woodlands” – whatever, insert your own assumptions there, just like Marx.

    Government sweet talk? You didn’t score very high in reading comprehension did you? Limited government – that is the solution.

    Your last sentence makes absolutely no sense. None. It’s not “liberal book learnin’” as you project. It’s an aversion to historical redaction that is most infuriating.

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  27. DeepRainforest

    Cronyism = Hierarchy, that is, how both Capitalism and Communism work.

    You are in denial, and trot out the “No True Scotsman” argument every time anybody has a valid critique of capitalism. Basically, all good things are “capitalist,” all bad things are “cronyism.”

    As church lady said, “how conveeeenient!”

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  28. DeepRainforest

    I’m not ignoring anything except your uninformed creationist level bullshit about anthropology. You’re totally lying your caricatures of non-State Indian tribes in the eastern woodlands.

    And you’re full of shit with your government sweet talk. Government force is needed to kill off native non-State families to occupy land for agriculture. It’s happened the world over for the last 10,000yrs, but then you have a creationist strength aversion to any of that damn liberal book larnin’.

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  29. bigtex1453

    You’re off the deep end.

    Aint a damn thing wrong with Capitalism. You’re pissed at cronyism. The two are not the same. cronyism partners with government to squeeze out competition. Capitalism performs on it’s own without incestuous government no-bid contracts.

    Massive distinction.

    You’re a fraud and you’re wrong wrong wrong.

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  30. bigtex1453

    Simply because you *say* that there was no agriculture without government does not mean that you’re correct. I just gave you 2 examples that you conveniently ignored right off the top of my head. It’s bullshit dude. The theory is wrong.
    Again the only government force that capitalism needs to survive is for government to have honest money, enforce contracts, and uphold property rights. Thats not against the people, thats for the people because it allows folks to retain what is rightfully theirs

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  31. DeepRainforest

    Keep believing the LIE, Tex. There is no Agriculture, Market, City, or Capitalism without government Force. 10,000 years of history prove me right. All the volumes of LOLbertaian bullshit can’t beat reality.

    And you’re fucking stupid enough to not understand that government is merely the middle management for capitalists, totally pwned.

    Enjoy your delusions of religio-economic salvationism; they might be a comfort to you.

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  32. bigtex1453

    Statism is not a consequence of Capitalism. Statism is a result of the unchecked growth of government.

    You have two choices Deep: You either embrace the form of Federalism that wew have, fall in love with it, have let government run your life and own your property (statism) – or you try to change it. If you change it there are two ways to go. Either more government leading to Communism running absolutely everything – or less and returning to the market for solutions. I choose the latter.

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  33. DeepRainforest

    Ever see Capitalist City-Statism (civilization) without government? No? Then don’t fucking lie.

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  34. DeepRainforest

    You’re a full of shit Texas Fundie boy who hates any of that book learning. Creationist too?

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  35. bigtex1453

    As for your Communism & Capitalism comparison – one is a function of government the other is a function of the market buying as selling goods.

    It’s like trying to compare a broken down busted Pinto to the guy who goes and works in the factory that builds…I don’t know…wooden desks. It’s two entirely different things – and the comparison is weak, stupid, and demagoguery.

    You need to vote for Obama you criminal.

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