Ron Paul: NDAA Tyranny Continues

by Ron Paul

The bad news from last week’s passage of the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act is that Americans can still be arrested on US soil and detained indefinitely without trial. Some of my colleagues would like us to believe that they fixed last year’s infamous Sections 1021 and 1022 of the NDAA, which codified into law the unconstitutional notion that some Americans are not subject to the protections of the Constitution. However, nothing in this year’s bill or amendments to the bill restored those constitutional rights.

Supporters of the one amendment that passed on this matter were hoping no one would notice that it did absolutely nothing. The amendment essentially stated that those entitled to habeas corpus protections are hereby granted habeas corpus protections. Thanks for nothing!

As Steve Vladeck, of American University’s law school, wrote of this amendment:

“[T]he Gohmert Amendment does nothing whatsoever to address the central objections…. [I]t merely provides by statute a remedy that is already available to individuals detained within the United States; and says nothing about the circumstances in which individuals might actually be subject to military detention when arrested within the territory of United States…. Anyone within the United States who was subject to military detention before the FY2013 NDAA would be subject to it afterwards, as well…”

Actually, the amendment in question makes matters worse, as it states that anyone detained on US soil has the right to file a writ of habeas corpus “within 30 days” of arrest. In fact, persons detained on US soil already have the right to file a habeas petition immediately upon arrest!

I co-sponsored an amendment offered by Reps. Adam Smith and Justin Amash that would have repealed the unconstitutional provisions of last year’s NDAA by eliminating Section 1022 on mandatory military detention and modifying Section 1021 to make it absolutely clear that no one can be apprehended on US soil and held indefinitely without trial or be held subject to a military tribunal. Our language was clear: “No person detained, captured, or arrested in the United States, or a territory or possession of the United States, may be transferred to the custody of the Armed Forces for detention under the Authorization for Use of Military Force, this Act, or the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013.”

The term “person” is key in our amendment, as our Founders did not make a distinction between citizens and non-citizens when determining who was entitled to Constitutional protections. As the father of the Constitution James Madison wrote, “[I]t does not follow, because aliens are not parties to the Constitution, as citizens are parties to it, that whilst they actually conform to it, they have no right to its protection.”

We should not forget that our Article III court system is a strength not a weakness. The right to face our accuser, the protections against hearsay evidence, the right to a jury trial – these are designed to protect the innocent and to determine and then punish guilt. And they have been quite successful thus far. Currently there are more than 300 individuals who have been tried and convicted of terrorism-related charges serving lengthy terms in US federal prisons. Each of the six individuals tried in US civilian courts for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center are serving hundreds of years in prison, for example.

Last week was discouraging and disappointing to those of us who value our Constitution. That the US government asserts the legal authority to pick up Americans within the United States and hold them indefinitely and secretly without a trial should be incredibly disturbing to all of us. Americans should check how their representative voted. Politicians should not be allowed to get away with undermining our liberties in this manner.


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  • Ron Paul is a Fraud.

  • Ron Paul is a Fraud.

  • Surfisher

    Why is the GOP Establishment willingly and publicly committing such atrocities, that are recorded and eventually will be used as proof against them in a Court of Law?

    For a long time I couldn’t figure out their reasoning for such self-destructive acts — until it just crystallized out of the blue this morning.

    They are NO LONGER RATIONAL — but, as a wounded and cornered Beast, they are lashing out; clawing, biting, spitting and fighting to survive.

    In this mode of self-preservation, no thought of consequences is used, only the instinct for survival has kicked in!

    Should Ron Paul win, their rug will be pulled! So what difference if they also get sued eventually. (Lose-lose)

    Should they succeed in their desperate fight for survival, than all their atrocious actions will be taken care of by their own. (Win-win)

    Therefore, expect ever increasing atrocities during the upcoming Conventions — the more desperate this Animal becomes, the more vicious its attacks will be!

    What has set them off in this frenzy of rabid behavior is their FEAR that Ron Paul will get confirmed plurality in 5 states — thus guaranteeing his being seated at the Tampa Convention (and thereby sealing their end)!

    We need to fight them off on all fronts — stand our ground and call them out when caught in attempting to cheat! Don’t let them intimidate you with their lies, but instead unseat them and get all proceedings recorded (live stream is Best)!

    Ron Paul to WIN — Or America to END 2012!
    (there are no other options)

  • NEVER lose hope!

  • NEVER lose hope!

  • Surfisher

    Louisiana — How more despicable can this Corrupt State be?!

    One of the cops actually by falsehood, took away a citizen’s phone as “evidence”…!

    (I spent about 3 hours trying to remove the background noise to isolate this — PAY ATTENTION TO THIS EXCHANGE!)

    Listen to the cop’s misinformation (an abuse of his limited powers) at the near end of this video (minute 5:50 till end at 6:15).

    Cop: “I need your phone as evidence…can I get your driver’s license for me, please…” — (unless a Court Ordered Subpoena is served, no officer of law is allowed to divest a person (that has not been arrested) from his property under the guise of “evidence required by the police”. Also, no cop can demand of a bystander to disclose his Identification (driver’s license in this case) FOR HIS OWN CURIOSITY (“for me”) or for any other purported reasons!)

    US Citizen replies: “My driver’s license…?”

    Cop: “Yeah…”

    US Citizen: “You’ll take my phone…?”

    Cop: “It’s evidence…correct… you were recording….”

    US Citizen: noise that sounds like(“what (or nah)…”)

    Cop: “You weren’t recording…? I still need your driver’s license”. (THE CITIZEN WAS NOT DRIVING A CAR — therefore, this Cop cannot demand his driver’s license (unbelievable abuse of power)! Also, IF-or-NOT the citizen was recording IS COMPLETELY OUT of the domain of any police force to dictate either way!)

    US Citizen: “Why…you are taking my phone away from me…”

    Cop: “It’s evidence… noise (sounds like ‘correct’)…you were recording….”

    My 2 cents:

    There is a special hell for the 5 pigs that took down an old and handicapped man — BUT this PIG, that went beyond the take-down and tried to erase the evidence by confiscating the camera phone, deserves an even worse end!

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  • I don’t know Rong Paul. But Ron Paul is a libertarian heterosexual.

  • Surfisher

    Ron Paul to WIN — Or America to END 2012!

    Here is the difference btwn Perfidy Mitt and Honest Ron Paul:

    On one hand (more apt: underhanded) — the Mitt (who’s only real support is NOT for him, but AGAINST the BO — the usual voting for “the lesser of two evils” mentality) knows he needs to resort to all frauds and crookedness, to have a chance to win the nomination (in order to lose to the BO). These are the forces of the Dark Side.

    On the other hand — there is Light! Ron Paul’s message of what is TRUE is irrefutable. It has ignited the hopes of all good people in our nation (and around the world) that Truth will win out over Lies, Good will trample Evil, Liberty will prevail against Tyranny, Government will bow to the Will of The People (not the other way around as the BO and the Mitt desire), all senseless Wars will be put to an end (we’ll speak softly again, but also carry a big stick), The Law of the Land will be the Original US Constitution (and all the hundreds-of-thousands of OPPRESSIVE Laws, Rules and Regulations passed unconstitutionally will be NEGATED), that the Citizen will be Sovereign AGAIN (and Government will become the Subject), that US Money will have Intrinsic Value AGAIN (not Promissory Notes printed ad hoc by a Private and Corrupted to the CORE Organization: The Feds) thus guaranteeing Prosperity once again…and the list goes on!

    Despite the organized effort by the controlled media (here and abroad) and the nefarious means of our crooked politicians and their hired thugs, The People have embraced the Last American Patriot — Dr. Ron Paul — and the liberty flame that burns within us WILL NEVER be extinguished!

    Our time is NOW (since we’ll reach the Point of No Return if the BO or the Mitt steal our Nation away from US) — We, the REAL AMERICAN PEOPLE, will fight for this cause that is Just and Honorable! You, the Despots in Power NOW, may spill our blood, but unless you kill us all, We, The Real American People, WILL END your reign of tyranny and corruption!

    Ron Paul to WIN — Or America to END 2012!
    (there are no other options!)

    • Surfisher

      Bilderberg 2012: The Official List of Participants

      Could it be true that such key figures in the USA Government are party to this globalist gang?

      I can’t believe it — this list has to be false….

      Director of the NSA & US Cyber Command
      Governor of Indiana
      The National Security Advisor Of The White House
      Senator for Massachusetts John Kerry
      Co-Chair, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury Rubin, Robert E.

      It is understandable the rest from USA — CEOs of Banks, Foundations, Finance Groups, Google, sciolistic Professors, and other such private persona — to attend this meeting whose goal is an eventual One World Government.
      As a private organization, Bilderberg may not disclose the Minutes of their meeting.

      But if it is true, that our Government Officials and Holders of Office, are in attendance — isn’t there a constitutional law requiring them to give full disclosure by providing all transcripts, so the people they serve, The Citizens of the United States, are aware of exactly what was said and done?

    • Surfisher

      Many seem not to understand that we, Ron Paul supporters, are not fighting to create a “new” nation, but to restore ours back to what it used to be and what was guaranteed since Day One by our Constitution (free and prosperous Sovereign Individuals, whereby the Government is subjected to Our Will, not the other way around which is now the Case-in-Fact)!

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  • Surfisher

    *NBC: Romney Secures GOP Delegates to Win*

    “By winning the Texas primary on Tuesday, NBC News is reporting Mitt Romney has gained the required number of delegates (1,144) needed for the GOP nomination….”

    To all Romney supporters — the dependable media has just informed you that Mitt won the GOP nomination! No need to go out and waste your time voting — instead, stay at home, cut the lawn, do a BBQ and celebrate!


    “The State of Texas has the right to decide for itself how to regulate social matters like sex, using its own local standards.” ~wRONg Paul


    “The State of Texas has the right to decide for itself how to regulate social matters like sex, using its own local standards.” ~wRONg Paul

  • For for the Individual’s Rights, not the Government’s might. Simple.

  • Brandon Newkirk

    The view that most Americans hold regarding NDAA is pretty scary. A lot of them have never even heard of it before. I asked one person what he thought of NDAA and he said “I don’t know, I don’t keep up with conspiracy theory stuff.” A law that allows US citizens to be detained by the military and shipped to Guantanamo Bay, and it’s a “conspiracy theory?” Now they want to conduct “military operations in cyberspace” (I can see it now: thousands of independent blogs being shut down by the military for alleged terrorist sympathies) and it also paves the way for war with Iran! I guess the transition to a dictatorship will be quite easy if people have attitudes like that. If you don’t believe that martial law could happen here, just take a look at All the proof is there.

  • This is why Ron paul will win the Presidential Election 2012 USA.

    RON PAUL 2012.

  • I like that phrase “Make things turn Constitutional”

  • Americans it is so heartening for others around the world to see this happening.If anhhelp is needed if things turn Constitutional (the great unorganised militia “We the People” remember that phrase?) there’s many of us around the world ready to stand by you.

  • robin


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