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Not true, the one that debases their currency the fastest without killing the golden goose would have the strongest economy.
It’s a race to the bottom, and the only way to really lose is when the people who are forced to barter their labor and property with scrap paper decide they don’t want to be slaves to a scam anymore.
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Fellow Patriots: We are being tested again and must stay true to our path. I found myself being swept in sea of emotions after each of these announcements without having all the facts. Until we have all the facts, we need to keep our focus on the momentum we had before these announcements were being made. Let’s continue to put all our energy into getting Ron Paul elected and working on getting party positions to change this country from the bottom up. Let’s support these people that are bringing some accountability into the convention process and at the national level. Being angry does not translate into meaningful changes. Our strength is being a unified voice, not fragmented.
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robin — superb post!
I second that!
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Will you stop with that Gary Johnson pushing? We already know about him. It amazes me that so many Gary Johnson supporters won’t wait their turn. Have patience, his time shall come.
Never go to war without a Declaration…shows more BALLS!
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Well rybroca, if states had their own currencies, the ones that did not debase them would have stronger currencies and economies. Other states would compete or bring themselves up to par, or wither away into obscurity as the US very well may.
Well all I say is Rand Paul is NOT Ron Paul. And we should see what Ron says about this before we loose heart. And yes Rand sold out!
Wow, you sure are on a deluded trip. Romney has the mark of the beast carved big and deep for everybody to see in his very front head. You can not come to terms with someone who does not depend on himself- Mitt does not even talk on behalf of the oligarchs, he just follows orders or, rather, instructions. He has no say in the agenda, he has not inside of the strategy, he has not any knowledge, he has not any skills. In resume, he is a puppet of the structure of power. He gives a hoot about you.
If Romney and the Pauls were doing something like this and pulled it off, think about it, Mitt Romney, if he flip flopped to the liberty side would be one of the greatest heros of all time.How could anyone not want to be remembered like that?The Romney’s and Pauls are friends and as Paul supporters,we’re to figure this out on our own.What Rand did is a clear message to us.
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The Pauls didn’t get threatened or sell out. They proved a candidate for liberty who follows party rules will never be made president because he will be skrewed over, cheated, anything to keep him out of the White House.That is why I believe Rand, Ron and Mitt are staging a coup to hijack the oval office for liberty.I can see Mitt Romney agreeing to this and turning his back on the banksters.
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Surfisher it is not nonsense, it is common sense. I don’t need to go to a hundred different websites and come up with 100 conspiracy theories to keep false hopes alive.
IF Paul and Rand are being pushed out, there is nothing I can do to stop it and should move on to where my efforts might have an impact. Only if Ron and Rand went public with what is going on could a revolution take place. It is on them to decide on reporting threats, and it LOOKS like Rand made his choice.
IF Rand actually believes that Romney is our best bet, he is indeed signaling the end of the Ron Paul campaign, and what his true colors are. Why would he go out campaigning for Romney if there was a chance Paul could get in still? In that case the result is the same… move on.
Let’s face it… Ron Paul needs to come out and address his supporters on this issue. Where the convention really stands, why his son is now supporting Romney, and if we should support Gary Johnson. We can not wait for the convention thanks to Rand.
Thanks Rand… thanks a lot.
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And one more final word about conspiracy theories… it is ok to have them so long as you doubt the conspiracy theory itself with the same amount of unbiased logic you applied in the first place.
FWIW, I will do my best to continue to promote the cause here in Michigan. I will be of course be all for supporting RP if he is the GOP nominee, but will be focused more on Gary Johnson.
Scott R — understand your post (from the heart, not the brain — when I was young, I also used to do such irrational outbursts).
Consider this — would Rand Paul make this announcement without cause?!
What would be the reason that would compel him to do a 180?
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See this: read btwn the lines!
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You answered my question because that’s exactly how I feel. It’s not time to jump ship or give up. The real tests are still yet to come. That’s exactly what they want. DIVIDE and CONQUER. Go easy on Scott. He is just frustrated and confused like the rest of us. We have to continue to do the right thing no matter what others are doing around us. This is a movement that goes beyond these men..That’s what people have to remember. Are you going to TAMPA as a delegate?
Robin — one should never post in anger (count to 10…), but with Logic.
As of now, Ron Paul seems to have gotten the 5 states plurality needed (I’m awaiting final confirmations this week) in order to be invited (by Election Law) to Tampa!
THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS!
I don’t recall The BO resorting to such obvious strong-arm measures — seems the Usurper of the White House will depend on the Fixed Electronic Voting Machines to assure his win in 2012!
But, the Mttney has displayed total disregard (and this video below is a most severe proof) HOW TRANSPARENTLY OBVIOUS HIS FRAUDS MAY BE, since he depends on the MSM to cover them up — in order to steal the Republican Nomination away from the ONLY TRUE AMERICAN, Ron Paul!
After witnessing the months of frauds done on his behalf, does he TRULY expect THE REAL AMERICANS to vote for him (or is he just nuts)?!
Here is Fox News *Reality Check* latest:
SURFISHER and SCOTT….Welcome back Surfisher. It’s good to get away for awhile and get a new perspective. I thought about the assassination issue, but believe this has been in the works for sometime. Also, I believe this is to stop us from voting our conscience in Tampa. Ron Paul does not want any trouble and that was probably made clear to him. I believe we still have to do what we can at Tampa because otherwise they have won. Scott, I’m not sure I can support Gary because of where he stands on all the issues. I will wait to see what Ron Paul does. This is his test, but the safety issue is always in the back of my mind. He was never a real threat before until we fought at the state conventions and caucuses and Ben Swann become involved. What are you going to do Surfisher? What are you recommending? I’m going to my convention. I am a PCP, but can only vote for motions and rules as we haven’t been registered for the 180 days to vote for delegates. I want to support my fellow Ron Paul supporters.
Robin — my reply to: “What are you going to do Surfisher? What are you recommending?”
I will inform, as I’m doing now (and they can read it here, since all internet posts are read and filed by our own government to some Alphabet Agency…that has already made profiles of us all) that what the Bilderberg Gang can do to a FEW of us, we the Many, may just do the same to their ALL their Members (their list of International Criminals has been posted)!
In PLAIN WORDS — You, the New World Order Disciples, may kill some of us, but never ALL Real Americans! WARNING to all such One World Government Gangs— kill one of us, and start your OWN ENDING (we know you by Name and Place (just like you do us), but there are Millions of US, vs you, Few SUBHUMAN Creatures!
All True Americans — Fight for what’s Right! Ron Paul to Win in Tampa —or else…!
Folks- it is time to rally behind Gary Johnson with the same determination and enthusiasm that we have given Ron Paul all of these years. He really is our hope for the future… NOT Rand Paul.
Based on Paul’s message about having 500 delegates max, I don’t think it will be enough to stop Romney. That plus the Rand endorsement leads me to believe that the Ron Paul party is over. It simple does not add up that Rand would make such an endorsement if there was ANY hope of Paul making an impact to Romney’s platform. In the interview, Rand said that he would be traveling around campaigning for Romney, when the correct thing to do would be to help out Gary in getting the word out that there is another choice to the 2 party rigged system. I’m still VERY angry at him for taking that action after the way Paul was treated by the GOP and media in this election.
If Paul is not going to go 3rd party, and if he really doesn’t have a shot at the convention or changing Romney’s platform, he should bow out now and endorse Gary Johnson. I don’t want the movement spending another minute on Paul if he can’t win. We need to focus on Gary Johnson. I’m still hoping for a team up there, but the time to make that anouncement is here. We need time to get the message out and promote Gary Johnson!
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Scott R — sorry to say, but this is an idiotic statement (didn’t you read any of the below, before you posted this nonsense)?!
Ron Paul is about to go to Tampa! And that’s where ALL will Begin!
RAND Paul a Traitor — or Family Savior?
Declaring his endorsement of Perfidy Mitt (within 3 days after the Biderberg Gang meeting ended).
1) At the Bilderberg Gang’s meeting near DC — their gang-members were freely discussing in the lobby of the hotel (for all to hear) best ways to kill Ron Paul and his top supporters. (Why would they do that openly, unless they were sending a CLEAR Message — desist, or perish).
2) Hotel staff reported (unverified as of yet) that they saw the Mitt sneaking in and attending this Gang of NWO manipulators’ meeting. If true, that he attended, ON TOP of the VERIFIED List of Top US Officials, that were party to this meeting (The Director of NSA, Senator John Kerry, The Governor of Indiana, and others) whose only goal is to Destroy the USA, and usher a One World Government instead — the message, that our OWN Top Officials are PART of this Gang, sends a CRYSTAL CLEAR Signal that they can cover up anything they want (such as an “accidental” airplane crash, or “food” poisoning)!
3) Korean Air Lines Flight 007 in 1983 shot down by the Soviets — remember the main stream media hullabaloo about this unfortunate “mistake” where innocent civilians died???
No-one ever mentioned, and still few know, that the Most Dangerous Person to the NWO Gang, was on board that plane — the President of the John Birch Society!
If they have the power to alert the USSR in 1983, to shoot down this plane, and guarantee them that ALL Western Governments (including our own) will REPORT it as an “Unfortunate Mistake” (which is what transpired then) — isn’t that a clear show of might, that they can do anything they want to ANYONE (and our corrupt government will do their best to cover it up)!
So, did Rand Paul betray his Father — or is he trying to save his life!
no my freind im afriand it will be a long red road to DC