By RonPaul.com on June 9, 2012
Posted in Ron Paul 2012 | Tagged Endorsement, Jack Hunter, Mitt Romney, Rand Paul | 1921 Responses
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I agree! GOOD POINT! you made my day!
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So what is to be gained by cozying up to the nominee of a party that tried to steal your dad’s primary wins? Was Romney just playing wit choo? You actually believe Romney will regard the people that stood in his way as people to listen to?
I support the movement, not those that are actively trying to subvert it.
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What really hurt RP this time was his foreign policy. Endorsing McCain in 2008 wouldn’t override that. However, if McCain had endorsed RP, now THAT could of helped a lot!
Its not RP and Rand that need to endorse anyone, it’s people like McCain who have to endorse RP. Its the old GOP that needs to see which way the wind is blowing and get on board the freedom train, not Rand jumping off so he can go over the cliff with them.
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Jack, did you say at 2:12 that Rand has an impeccable pro-liberty voting record? Surely, you must be joking. Here, I have to laugh rather like you did when the Amazing Atheist compared Ron Paul to George Wallace. Need I remind you that Rand voted in favor of sanctions on Iran? Or that he was quite the hawk when he originally ran for Senate? It was clear from the beginning that he was not his father. And even as a pragmatic strategy, Rand’s move was idiotic, as he has alienated many people.
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YOU ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BE GONE, TOOL. Bend?! as in bend over. We don’t have time to be fucking around here!! This country is about to completely crumble. UNSUBBED, and BLOCKED, FUCKIN PRICK!!!! FUCK YOU!
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I respectfully disagree
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Politics is a dirty game, but it’s the tools we have to work with. Keep the Liberty movement strong! Let’s move forward with our chins held high with dignity.
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You are wrong about this. Rand ends here. Talk about Ron Paul’s stirring speech to 11,000 at Texas convention yesterday.
BTW you lower your own credibility by accepting Rand’s sellout. I will struggle to maintain my faith in your analysis from now on. This is a result of your justifying the unjustifiable.
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Jack I have always liked you, but on this one I have to disagree. How bad do you people really want to have it get before we give LIBERTY a chance? Do we really want to turn the US into a 3rd world nation before we do ANYTHING about it? Sure we can rebuild the economy, but I would rather DO IT NOW, not tear it down all the way! We waited for 4 years to get a rp campaign back, and are now being told that liberty is not allowed? I call BS! Thumbs up if you agree!
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Since when did we have to “legitimize the libertarian movment” ????
So we have to sell-out to not sell out? We have to not fight the status quo, so they may legitimze us, allowing us to fight them?
1984 double speak much?
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Blame it all on us? We didn’t endorse a big spending neo-con, We didn’t send out e-mails like Jesse Benton when we were fighting and winning delegates. We are not just fighting for a message we were fighting to get Ron in the white house but all along we were being conned I guess.
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We became libertarians because we got sick of being forced to give the benifit of the doubt. No more.
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Check out Gary Johnson or Roseanne Barr. Turn your back completely on the mainstream, just like they’ve turned their backs on you. Never again….
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This isn’t rand’s first bad endorsement, and with his voting in favor of Iranian sanctions, he has completely lost my support. I don’t give a **** who his father is, he lives by his own votes, his own actions, his own words. Go on and play nice with the republicans, and when you’re done playing, I’ll still be here, waiting for everyone else to stop playing.
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That’s not right! stay involved!
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Sorry Jack, but not every Paul supporter is a statist like you.
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lol
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We ain’t going to be here after 2012. We will be a 3rd world country by 2016.
»crosslinked«
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I’m not Jack, but I’ll throw my two cents out there. 1) It has to do with Jack’s statement of comprising Politically to advance Principles. 2) I think Rand is just trying to give himself more political pull for the liberty movement. 3) No need to rationalize how you vote, Romney is certainly better than Obama, but he’s still terrible, we all know this. But, a Rand endorsement will hold Mitt more accountable to the rEVOLution. My vote is prob for GJ, but I wouldn’t tisk anyone for voting Mitt.
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GARY JOHNSON 2012
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… So we’re compromising principle to advance principle? VERY fitting of someone endorsing Romney! It’s like he stands against the issue that stands for the issue you don’t stand against, right? Or wait, he misspoke, he meant that he stands for the issue that stands against the issue that you stand for, unless you stand for it, that is…
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I CALL BULLSHIT!
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Never understood Dr. Paul’s push 2 stay within Republican Party 2 effect change. ‘education’ strategy doomed 2 fail since dictatorship of unelected DUOPOLY will not permit change or particpation. We R dealing w/ violent corrupt Statists 4 absolute POWER. There is really no option. It co-opted Ron Paul’s constitutionalist libertarian minachists as vacuum cleaner 2 absorb as many independents voters possible 2 win November. There is no consensus democracy in U.S. only winner-take-all election.
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The only thing worse than having a socialist crook in charge is having a socialist crook pretending to be a republican representing you in charge. DEFEAT ROMNEY!!!
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Screw that sell out scum Rand Paul. Romney said that southerners have no heritage. The country is screwed no matter who gets elected this election.
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I agree it’s emotional, i disagree on the timing and method. He could have waited until after the convention and not soldout until after we were able to have the maximum amount of influence on Romney. He also made a remark to the extent that ron supporters are insignificant. There is also a ignorant idea that Rand can help move in these people (us). The only thing he did was portray himself as a sellout, regardless of his intentions; you really think these young people will forget that?
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Your very Naive
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I agree. There must be a full investigation so we can make a valid judgement.
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I understand that Libertarians spend 95% percent of their time arguing about the 5% they disagree on, and I understand that sitting around getting worked up about Alex Jones Bildebergers coverage will never gain a single shred of actual force for change. I also came to understand as a delegate at the state convention that the liberty movement is taking over. We’re getting closer, no thanks to your nihilistic attitude.
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God damn it, Jack! We don’t WANT the theocra-statist RAND! We would rather have someone else! His voting record is OK, but FAR from IMPECCABLE.
Plus, we ALL KNOW Romney IS OBAMA when it comes to issues, antics, and philosophies. SO, why the hell would I vote for 8 more years of Obama vs. 4 more years of Obama? If Ron Paul is not the Republican nominee, I will be voting for Obama and hope SOMEONE ELSE evolves as the leading liberty candidate…
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Jack, EXCELLENT VIDEO….and your thoughts are right on.
I only wish Ron would say something.
Questions..
1) Why are the Paul’s giving up on Gary Johnson?
2) Do you agree with Rand that the best strategy is to try to change things from inside the broken two party system? (or dont you believe its broken, as in bought and paid for, rigged by ELITES)
3) In principal, I am thinking of voting for Gary J. but considering Rand’s strategy, perhaps a vote for Romney can be stomached. thoughts???
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The current establishment is irrelevant. They will be washed away as the economy gets worse and worse. This is why the RP and the freedom movement is getting stronger, because the economy is getting weaker and Americans are losing faith in the establishment. Siding with them now ruins the credibility it took so long to create.
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Words mean nothing, action means everything. Look at his voting record!
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anarchist..awsome. In the closet myself….(shhhh)
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