Ron Paul: Down with Deadly Drones, Both Foreign and Domestic

by Ron Paul

Last week I joined several of my colleagues in sending a letter to President Obama requesting clarification of his criteria for the lethal use of drones overseas. Administration officials assure us that a “high degree of confidence” is required that the person targeted by a drone is a terrorist. However, press reports have suggested that mere “patterns of behavior” and other vague criteria are actually being used to decide who to target in a drone strike. I am concerned that an already troublingly low threshold for execution on foreign soil may be even lower than we imagined.

The use of drones overseas may have become so convenient, operated as they are from a great distance, that far more “collateral damage” has become acceptable. Collateral damage is a polite way of saying killing innocent civilians. Is the ease of drone use a slippery slope to disregard for justice, and if so what might that mean for us as they become more widely used on American soil against American citizens?

This dramatic increase in the use of drones and the lowered threshold for their use to kill foreigners has tremendous implications for our national security. At home, some claim the use of drones reduces risk to American service members. But this can be true only in the most shortsighted sense. Internationally the expanded use of drones is wildly unpopular and in fact creates more enemies than it eliminates.

Earlier this month a former top terrorism official at the CIA warned that President Barack Obama’s expanded use of drones may actually be creating terrorist “safe havens.” Robert Grenier, who headed the CIA’s counter-terrorism center from 2004 to 2006, told a British newspaper that, “[the drone program] needs to be targeted much more finely. We have been seduced by them and the unintended consequences of our actions are going to outweigh the intended consequences.”

After a drone strike in Yemen last month once again killed more civilians than suspected al-Qaeda members, a Yemeni lawyer sent a message to President Obama stating “Dear Obama, when a U.S. drone missile kills a child in Yemen, the father will go to war with you, guaranteed. Nothing to do with Al Qaeda.” These are the unseen victims of the president’s expanded use of drones, but we should pay attention and we should ask ourselves how we would feel if the tables were turned and a foreign power was killing innocent American children from thousands of miles away. Would we not feel the same?

The expanded use of drones overseas has been matched with the expanded use of drones in the United States, which should alarm every American who values the Constitution and its protections against government interference in our private lives. Recently, the governor of Virginia welcomed the expanded use of drones in his state because they “make law enforcement more productive.” I find that attitude chilling and am sure I am not alone.

Do we want to live in a country where our government constantly flies aircraft overhead to make sure we are not doing anything it disapproves of? Already the Environmental Protection Agency uses drone surveillance to spy on farmers and ranchers to see if they are in compliance with regulations. Local law enforcement agencies are eyeing drone use with great anticipation. Do we really want to live under the watchful eye of “Big Brother”? It is terrifying enough to see how drones are being misused abroad. We must curtail the government’s ability use drones right away lest the massacres in Yemen and Pakistan turn out to be crude training exercises for what the administration has in mind on our own soil.

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  1. It’s our job (America) to make sure that he is elected this year. The general media doesn’t seem to respect the notion of taking action against our accumulation of debt, which is now primarily accumulated by “undeclared” wars throughout the world. Thankfully, if the general public can overcome it’s apathy towards “boring” government, it doesn’t matter what the media, or “big brother” respects. What matters is what you respect, and how many cleverly concealed pertinent facts you can shed to light

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  2. Go Jeff Bootstraps Fisher as our next President with Vice President Ron Paul
    Fuck the bastards all of them who cover up the truth which a nice democrat& friend
    of Ron Paul became the American Patriot. A man who was even set on fire & shot & stabbed & imprisoned because Bootstraps understood the sanctity of life among We the People World-Wide. Fuck the Police State Fuck the Jew Controlled Media Fuck The NEW World Order

    Everyone just google
    Election Fraud Jeff Fisher

    & lets get Ron Paul to NYC

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  3. yep the penny dropped 4 me when bush got realected..

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  4. yep the penny dropped 4 me when bush got realected..

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  5. Ron Paul Keeps Winning the Battles, but What About the War?

    LONG ARTICLE — but must read material!!!

    Joe Wolverton, II
    New American
    June 24, 2012

    Word out of Iowa is that Ron Paul won a majority of that state’s delegates to the Republican National Convention to be held in August in Tampa, Florida. This is contrary to the story told on election night in January when first Mitt Romney and then, after a recount, Rick Santorum was declared the winner of the Hawkeye State’s caucus.

    After what the Des Moines Register described as a “two-day tug-of-war marked by bouts of angry shouting,” backers of the Libertarian-leaning Texas congressman won 23 of the state’s 28 total delegates.

    This isn’t the first such example of a Paul Paradox. State convention delegates elected pro-Paul slates in Minnesota, Maine, Nevada, and Louisiana, although Paul didn’t win the popular vote in any of those states (or any other state for that matter). The results are indisputable, but the million-dollar question is whether the Republican National Committee will allow these delegates to vote their consciences or will “bind” them to vote for the “presumptive nominee,” former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney.

    Some who support Ron Paul have decided not to wait on the RNC to rule and have taken their case to the courts.

    As we have reported, a lawsuit was filed by the law firm of Gilbert & Marlowe in Santa Ana, California, asking a federal court to determine:

    … whether Plaintiffs are free to vote their conscience on the first and all ballots at the Federal Election known as the Republican National Convention or whether Plaintiffs are bound to vote for a particular candidate as instructed by Defendants’ State Party Bylaws, or State Laws, or the preference of political operatives….

    Named as defendants in the lawsuit are the chairmen of every state’s Republican Party, as well as the state party itself.

    A d v e r t i s e m e n t

    In all a total of over 143 delegates (presumably national delegates, otherwise the federal court would have no jurisdiction) have joined or asked to join as plaintiffs in the suit.

    Among other complaints, the lawsuit alleges that the RNC violated its own rules and applicable federal voting statutes by:

    Certifying “unlawful slates of Delegates that were not elected in accordance with the US Statues and US Supreme Court Decisions cited, nor in accordance with the proper Bylaws of Defendants;”

    Engaging “in a scheme to intimidate and harass Delegates who were supporting a Candidate that Defendants did not approve of;”

    Forcing delegates to “sign affidavits under penalty of perjury with the threat of criminal prosecution for perjury as well as financial penalties and fines if the Delegate fails to vote as instructed by Defendants rather than vote the Delegate’s conscience as mandated by the US Statutes and US Supreme Court;”

    Denying “a quorum or to manipulate Delegates supporting a particular Candidate to be deprived of a fair election as a Delegate;”

    Using “threats of violence including dressing security type people in dark clothing searching out supporters of a Candidate Defendants do not approve of to harass and intimidate said Delegates from voting their conscience;”

    Unlawfully using “State Bylaws and in some cases State Laws to harass and intimidate Delegates from voting their conscience;” and

    Altering “the voting ballot results to fraudulently reflect an outcome that is inconsistent with the actual voting ballot results for the purpose of certifying a fraudulently selected slate of Delegates to support the Candidate of Defendants’ choice rather than the Delegates properly elected.”

    If the court does not issue an immediate injunction blocking these actions, the plaintiffs argue, they will suffer irreparable harm.

    This notion of “binding” delegates to vote for one candidate despite their own allegiances (and the allegiances of those state convention delegates who voted for them) is one of the many bones of contention being fought over by those loyal to Ron Paul and those who accept Mitt Romney as the “presumptive nominee.”

    The RNC argues that the winner of the popular vote (Mitt Romney in most cases) should also received at least a corresponding percentage of that state’s delegates elected at the state conventions, while the plaintiffs in this lawsuit (and the Paul campaign itself) insist that delegates are empowered by RNC Rule 38 to vote their consciences and cannot be forced to vote for the winner of the state primaries.

    Promising to “carry on the fight,” the executive committee of the Lawyers for Ron Paul is actively seeking new plaintiffs to add to the lawsuit and they continue to promote the message that the war is not over and that despite the fact (as they see it) that Ron Paul’s national campaign staff has “thrown in the towel,” the grassroots supporters around the country still have the power to get their man into the White House.

    Assuming for a moment that a federal judge rules that all Republican delegates to the national nominating convention are unbound and may vote for the candidate of their choice, what would the practical effect of such a holding be? Ron Paul himself has conceded that he does not have the numbers necessary to put him over the top and onto the top of the ticket. Is there any scenario that can convert these victories into anything other than the Pyrrhic variety?

    First, Ron Paul maintains that he is not ready to follow in his senator son’s footsteps and endorse Mitt Romney.

    In an interview on CNN’s The Situation Room, Ron Paul said, “No. Not ready. No way,” when asked by the host Wolf Blitzer if he was ready to throw his support behind Romney. That firm denial seems to indicate that despite having suspended his active campaign in May, Ron Paul remains a candidate for president.

    Then again, there is the message to supporters posted last week on YouTube where Ron Paul told viewers that he had “a lot of good news,” describing a roster of goals for all the delegates and alternates elected to represent him at the Republican National Convention in Tampa in August.

    First, delegates should work to “influence the platform.” Next, they should “fight for our values,” and finally, “do whatever they can to promote the cause of liberty.”

    Running about eight minutes, Dr. Paul’s message does not sound like an attempt to either compromise or concede. He sounds confident that the fight for liberty and limited government will continue.

    But without him in the Oval Office.

    Another Paul Paradox is the man’s adamant denials that he will mount a third party campaign for president. This hardline would seem to indicate that Ron Paul considers the GOP to be the most reliable vehicle for taking his message to the masses. Why then does he refuse to endorse the Party’s candidate?

    Principle. The answer is that in a world where pseudo-statesmen trip over themselves to be the first to get to the Party’s altars so they can sacrifice all their principles to the god of Power, Ron Paul stands back, humbly and boldly proclaiming liberty like the voice of one crying in the wilderness.

    Whatever the outcome, when the smoke clears on this Republican war of ideas, there is little doubt that there will remain yet alive millions of American freedom fighters devoted to the cause of the Constitution and to the protection of our civil liberties.

    Many of these patriots are young, so they must be reminded that there will come others from their ranks that will run for office and promote this cause and stand firm against the Establishment’s gradual march toward absolutism.

    Truly, Ron Paul is not the first and he will not be the last candidate to lead the fight for freedom, but he may be the best.

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  6. even if you dont get elected this year, dont give up, try again next election. you will definitely have enough people on your side by then!!

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  7. even if you dont get elected this year, dont give up, try again next election. you will definitely have enough people on your side by then!!

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  8. 10 million Strong Americans need to descent on Tampa and take the nomination for Ron Paul!

    If there was a “Million Men March” on DC (to ask for what they thought was right) we can have a 10 Million Men, Women and Children March on Tampa — to demand what we KNOW is RIGHT!!

    No more playing nice with these criminals in power!!

    Ron Paul to WIN — Or America to END 2012!
    (There are no other options — so, speak softly, and carry a Big Stick in Tampa!)

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  9. “Mitt Romney Resigns!”

    “Mitt Romney announced today (place date) he will no longer seek the Republican nomination. Instead, he pledged his full support to Dr. Ron Paul, who he trusts implicitly to be the only viable candidate to defeat Barrack Obama,” said a Romney spokesperson.

    Mr. Romney’s spokesperson continued saying, ” Mr. Romney is making the ultimate sacrifice, for the good of the Nation, so wants to be remembered as the one that helped America be rid of Obama…as such Mr. Romney is a true patriot…”.

    Questioned as to the real reasons Mitt Romney quit — the spokesperson said, “He only wants to be remembered as the Patriot that Saved America… that is his only reason”….and “…none of the below were a factor in his decision”…as claimed:

    “That so many videos have been taped showing fraud on his behalf that TV mini-series could be made running for weeks,
    Or, that he can’t get 100 people to attend his meetings, while Ron Paul gathers Real Americans in the several thousands,
    Or, that he has broken rule #11 in collusion with the GOP, so he is about to be removed from many states ballots,
    Or, that his shadowy party in Nevada, is further grounds for his removal as a GOP candidate,
    Or, that he cannot garner enough delegates with all the cheating done on his behalf so far,
    Or, that All National Delegates are NOT bound according to rule #38, and US election law, in Tampa,
    Or, that his eventual loss to Ron Paul in Tampa will make him a national joke,
    Or, that even if manages to CHEAT his way out of Tampa, his guaranteed loss to Obama will make him an even Bigger Joke…”.

    No, none of these are factors, according to Mitt Romney’s spokesperson — “Mr. Romney quit the race today because he is a Patriot!”

    And I agree, Mitt did the right thing — and we shall build monuments and name schools after him!
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    Pass it on! Hopefully someone with brains in Mitt’s camp will see this syllogism and force it upon this dullard (for his own good)!

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  10. Srpopei stated in a comment that Ron Paul is against liberty and the constitution. How is that so? Because he is not willing to use weapons on those over seas because of the intented consequence that they kill more innocencent people than bad. And what justifies bad? He is a reasonable individual and yes he may be getting older but his age doesnt scare me, its the direction our country is and has been heading. No longer a democracy and a representation of the majority as seen with bush’selection

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  11. Drones are a problem, indeed; however, we are already under total surveillance: in the form of CCTV/traffic cameras. Not just “red light cameras”, here in Orange County, CA, there are wireless cameras at nearly every intersection (not just the major ones) and at every freeway on and off ramp. It seems that these are not just passive record cams (though that would be bad enough), but are actually actively monitored by law enforcement around the clock. The drone scare has just distracted us from seeing what’s going on right here in our own neighborhoods!

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  12. Jacqueline Kruger

    As a matter of conscience, I cannot vote in the general election this time around if Ron Paul is not on the ticket. In 2008, the anti-Bush vote gave us a worse president in Obama and I can see the same mistake repeating itself in 2012. The anti-Obama vote will give us someone worse in Romney. Romney is another puppet and the Conservatives are disgusted with the politics in Washington DC that enable the ruling class to run the country and select the next president. We will be stuck with: Obamacare, aka, NO Healthcare at a greater expense, continued invasion and loss of jobs to American workers, no new jobs created, advanced agenda of the NWO, loss of our sovereignty to a North American Union, tyranny at its best and a loss of our freedoms. Either I will sit this one out or I will write in Ron Paul if indeed the bribed GOP insists on Romney as the nominee….DISGUSTED!

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  13. The majestic Ron Paul — I hope will change to good direction this country.

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  14. Didn’t he say on MSNBC yesterday that he wasn’t getting a speech? At least at this point in time he has no plans on getting a speech out of all of this. They don’t want him to talk.

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  15. 10 million Strong Americans need to descent on Tampa and take the nomination for Ron Paul!

    If there was a “Million Men March” on DC (to ask for what they thought was right) we can have a 10 Million Men, Women and Children March on Tampa — to demand what we KNOW is RIGHT!

    No more playing nice with these criminals in power!

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  16. The Real Delegate Count of delegates who prefer a

    candidate, not those “bound” to a candidate:

    Romney 419, Paul 263, Gingrich 106, Santorum 41

    Federal Lawsuit has been filed claiming

    NO DELEGATES ARE BOUND!

    http://thereal2012delegatecount.com/

    Spread this like wildfire!!!

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  17. Also, I bet they make Romney go first. 1) For the hopes that after his speech people will tune out, and not watch Paul’s speech. Or 2) They know if Paul goes first, he will make Romney look like the flip-flopping, cheating, spineless fuck he is.

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  18. I Tampa could very well be Dr. Paul’s last political speech. I hope he is saving the best for last. Even if he doesn’t win, I hope his speech is so powerful it becomes the modern day “shot heard around the world.” A speech that awakens the masses and then the R3volution can begin.

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  19. Sure maybe Ron and Rand talked about it beforehand.. What does that mean to you? They are not carbon copies of each other and have different goals in mind. Anyway, actions speak much louder than words and Rand’s voting record is still solid for the most part. Ron will NEVER endorse Romney and that alone should give you comfort.

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