111 responses to “Ron Paul: We Need to Let People Opt Out of Healthcare”

  1. DanGRtheMan

    What you have to understand is that the government was created to PROTECT the people from Corporate Tyranny. The Libertarian/Corporate influence on government since Reagan has weakened the influence of the common people to such an extent that Corporations pass 60% of the laws in congress. There is a reason why the Koch brothers fund all the Libertarian think tanks – because the economic ideas behind it (not the pacifist thinking) ENABLE CORPORATE TYRANNY. Noam Chomsky explains this well.

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  2. DanGRtheMan

    With the right property rules – who will enforce these rules if not government?? Sir, if you are getting your information only from youtube= a fountain of disinformation in itself, there is no point in being so intellectually arrogant. The only way to fight Corporate Lobbying by Koch brothers, Goldman Sachs, Monsanto is to make the rich pay MORE tax as in the 50′s, strengthen worker Unions and eviscerate the ‘Corp’s are People’ rule. Government is supposed to be our voice as we pay for it.

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  3. CallMeJAR1

    “You can afford it?” Ohhh it’s not about money.

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  4. KoushAcalledKukA

    lets not debate anarchism ideology. i think its wrong, if you start with “if there is no government” as if there would be no rules or laws in an anarchic or libertarian society.again, with right property laws and responsible rules big companies would have less chance of power. companies like monsanto TODAY have their government army making farmslaves around the world. we definetely need a change and paul at least opposes all those stati quo. i listened to krugman.he doesn’t has to know better.

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  5. DanGRtheMan

    Ron Paul has a Doctor of medicine degree from Duke’s university circa 1961 as does his son – you are better off listening to someone like Paul Krugman, Nobel prize winner in economics 2008. If you don’t have government, then what??? You have private corporations with their own armies making workers wage slaves and polluting the environment. You have a massively unequal society reminiscent of feudalism. And who will protect you and your family if there is no government, no rule of law????

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  6. tubeviewerX20

    Don’t be so generous with your praise. Neil Cavuto is pretty much the only one on FoxNews who gives Ron Paul due respect

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  7. tubeviewerX20

    Duh? The problem is that Obamacare will raise taxes on an already overtaxed America. It will provide sub-standard, government-run healthcare because it will phase out capitalist competition. We would have no choice of providers. If there is a problem, who would you complain to? THE GOVERNMENT? Yeah, like they would give a shit.

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  8. phatcatrat

    Not sure why people hate Obamacare. So what if there is a tax? You can afford it. It has helped 32 million americans who were previously uninsured become insured. Also, if you have a pre-existing health problem, you might need it unless you have plenty of money.

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  9. VxO4fame

    That suprised me. Fox news got my respect!

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  10. Jean

    I am supposedly well educated but I honestly cannot evaluate when government proposals or policies are Constitutional or not. They seem to talk around the facts in just such a way that no ordinary human could figure out what they really mean. I hoped that the learned men and women of the Judicial wing would be the ones who could study and evaluate things such as Obama Care and clarify whether it was constitutional or not. I don’t care which party you say you are under, I just want to hear patriotic statements that safeguard the citizens for whom this Republic was formed. What happened to, By the people and for the people? I think the only hope for our country is to clean the slate of all of the politicians who owe favors to one lobbyist or another, and put Patriots in their place. The people in favor of Obama Care say that without it we will not be able to afford good health care in this country. Those against it say if it passes we will find increasingly higher prices for it that we wont be able to afford. Note that the rich will be able to afford it either way. Alot of what Ron Paul says sounds Constitutional correct, yet he is listed as a Republican which puts him in the rich category doesn’t it. Is he in the wrong category?

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  11. histrav

    We need to have national health care, but allow people to buy their own private coverage, if they wish. This is what the UK does (as opposed to Canada, where you MUST accept the national health service). The UK system is more equitable and fair.

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  12. DanGRtheMan

    And this is no conspiracy nonsense, all the actual facts are out there.

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  13. DanGRtheMan

    The Koch brothers Fund the Republican party and own the 2nd largest privately owned company in America. They fund all the Libertarian think tanks including Cato, the Heartland Institute, John Birch, National Tax Limitation foundation, Heritage and Reason foundations; Rolling stone magazine lists them as number 2 on their ’12 politicians and Execs blocking progress on Global warming’ article. They back anti-government conspiracies so people think that corporate taxes/regulations are bad.

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  14. God Be With You, Dr. Ron Paul!

    3rd Party is the Answer, Dr. Ron Paul! These Republicans and Democrats are not very nice, but if you act firmly and aggressively I believe that most to almost all Americans will vote for you! We Americans are tired of the BS that the government is pulling! As for show, that our government put a damper on our style with other countries as well! I don’t like that! I hate how some states has open primaries and others closed primaries! Everyone should just compete for general election I believe which is more fair deal. Please Dr. Ron Paul, please confirm that you would run for 3rd party and beat Obama and Romney. Please shed some light to the world! A lot of people are supporting you but you need to confirm you actually running to people believe you even more! I am glad though you got notice in the media but you have to go further to win and not just campaign. I know its hard for 3rd parties to get notice since Pero at least. But you did get notice and it wouldn’t be so hard for you. People the ones are suppose to choose who is on top in the government not the government itself by their votes.

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  15. Jim

    I am sorely disappointed in Ron Paul lately. What is he waiting for? Is it not the right time to announce a third party run against these insane de facto dictators? I have sent nearly a thousand $$$ to assist, which is not easy for a poor disabled veteran like me. He needs to come on stronger. He laid down when they stole the first few caucus results from him, he barely made a sound. With all the pent up revolutionary outrage in the American people there could be no better time for a third party run to release it. Come on Dr. Paul, you’re not getting any younger, we need you now. I’ll send as many $$ as I can to help. Heck, if I don’t give it to you for liberty, I’ll be giving to the tyrants to support my own slavery. THE TIME IS NOW.

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    1. Valerie Heskia

      You call yourself a poor veteran but you are willing to consider giving the guy more money….Perhaps your priorities are misplaced…You’ve been sold a lemon.

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  16. Scott R

    For all you that say I’m without compasion for the poor… consider this.

    We CAN have some kind of welfare system that includes health care for the poor and especially the disabled. BUT we need to teach people that they are not going to be able to keep the benifits forever without performing some kind of service.

    What is wrong with putting these folks to work in cleaning up Detroit for example? If they are unhappy with the level of pay and benifits for the type of work it will inspire them to go back to school or find work in the private sector. It encourages them to get off the entitlement bandwagon.

    Anyone that can afford health insurance but just doesn’t buy it is similar to driving a BMW and putting liability only on it. If they crash, the money should come out of THEIR pocket first not the tax payer. On the other hand, it should be discrimination to deny health insurance or charge different rates for females or different race and ages.

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  17. Scott R

    The average Joe will say, “I now get free health care. What a great day!” But fails to consider that everything else will go up in price without any adjustment to our wages of course, or that higher taxes will come.

    Finally, labor is still in oversupply and won’t be getting any better now that there is a health care mandate, that’s for sure.

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  18. Scott R

    What a horrible day for America as the individual mandate has passed the court’s judgement. They have declaired it a “tax” on citizens rather then forcing me to buy something. Really in actuality, all taxes we pay are in theory supposed to be buying me something… government services like police and fire ect. So this is a real gray area anyways.

    The real problem is that the government IS NOT as efficient as the free market. Be ready for long lines, long waits, and yet even higher costs in health care. Only this time the pain will be felt either though taxation OR inflation if the government decides to fund Obamacare just by printing more dollars and without balancing the budget.

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  19. robin

    SUPREME COURT SAYS OBAMACARE IS CONSTITUTIONAL: Another travesty in our justice system as our supreme court finds Obamacare constitutional. The three branches of government in bed together. Now here is their justification-the congress has the right to tax so this is simply a form of taxation. So, looks like our healthcare industry and pharmaceutical industry will be reaping the benefits once again. Just makes me sick to my stomach. People should have the right to opt out. I use alternative care, not allopathic doctors unless I have to.

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  20. Scott R

    What a horrible day for America as the individual mandate has passed the court’s judgement. They have declaired it a “tax” on citizens rather then forcing me to buy something. Really in actuality, all taxes we pay are in theory supposed to be buying me something… government services like police and fire ect. So this is a real gray area anyways.

    The real problem is that the government IS NOT as efficient as the free market. Be ready for long lines, long waits, and yet even higher costs in health care. Only this time the pain will be felt either though taxation OR inflation if the government decides to fund Obamacare just by printing more dollars and without balancing the budget.

    The average Joe will say, “I now get free health care. What a great day!” But fails to consider that everything else will go up in price without any adjustment to our wages of course, or that higher taxes will come.

    Finally, labor is still in oversupply and won’t be getting any better now that there is a health care mandate, that’s for sure.

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  21. Mike Johnson

    That sounds very nice Ron but as you probably know allowing people to opt-out would render the whole thing unsustainable which is probably what you want in the first place. Citizens do not have the right to opt out of taxes simply because the money goes to fund certain things that an individual taxpayer has no use for. You either have a healthcare mandate or you don’t. The ACA is constitutional therefore it is now up to Congress to decide to either repeal it or let it stand.

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  22. duhhybrid

    the government should make it fair for everyone, make sure you’re getting what you need to suport the country (by you i mean the government and their projects), make sure the rich pay their fair share (more than the middle class, but not too much, scale it up so it’s fair for them too so they don’t whine too much), make sure we have the bacis rights (including healthcare), make sure the economy stays afloat by doing what you can. all we want is to be treated fairly, survive, and progress.

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    1. Scott R

      Healthcare is not a right. It is a SERVICE performed by someone FOR YOU.

      Still not convinced? Think about it this way… we all NEED a place to live. Just like we all NEED health care from time to time. But is it my RIGHT to own my home? Is it my RIGHT to stay in an apartment without paying? Nope.

      Obamacare will cost you money maybe not directly, but indirectly thru higher taxes or inflation.

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  23. shroomingnewman

    change happens from the bottom-up, not top-down, which means you have to learn the free market arguments of the austrian school of economics to convince your family and friends that freedom works. ron never had a chance in america in this era, but many tht have been inspired are starting to run for office and that’s where the real change begins

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  24. pwih1987

    Really sick of hearing Dr. Paul talk. Because the majority of the people in this country are not fucking listening. And he keeps saying the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again. And still numerous people in this country do not get him. Fuck America.

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  25. hlr2752

    we’re trying brother. There is too much corruption in the media. I am surprised that there weren’t any ‘technical difficulties’ during this. This government has gotten far too large and things will get very ugly before anything gets better. I love my country, but the Government is something to be feared and constantly suspicious of.

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  26. briteness

    He is perhaps the only elected politician in Washington who appears to talk straight in almost every case. Thank you, Dr. Paul.

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  27. crazyfordhat

    You never know when it comes to obama supporters. lol

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  28. AutoSanchezMusic

    haha its obviously a joke

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  29. 2haveFREEDOMpriceles

    Kennedy’s HMO Act of 1974- it’s been all down hill since then, and now look at the medical debacle we have. So socializing medicine is not the answer. Let it go back to the free market because government destroys everything it gets its greedy hands on.

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  30. rh1507

    The government desperately needs out of this mess. Using the most short sited self serving individuals to follow is one of the stupidest things a nation can do. Death is coming to the worthless American Dollar and the cards shall then follow suit from this. Intelligence may be some part of the government but it is not the kind of intelligence needed.

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  31. BRONCOWEN

    LOL Obama, Romney, same shit.

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  32. crazyfordhat

    Are you serious or joking?

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  33. rjm420silverback

    Ron Paul for 2012!

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  34. aussiedon8

    But if we don’t force everyone to do it won’t work.

    Obama 2012!!!

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  35. jasonx0017

    Im here to beat up “I’M FIRST” troller!!!
    Ron Paul 2012!!!

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