By RonPaul.com on June 27, 2012
Posted in Health Care, Ron Paul's Interviews | Tagged Obamacare | 111 Responses
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Is it just me or does this sound similar to the health care plan that Romney is now offering. Government provided, but the option to go private, causeing compettition and possible lower rates and better care. Please dont mistake me. There is no way I will vote for Greed (Romney) and his Vice choice who looks like and sounds like the son of Satin.
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I know right? kind of surprising hes still on the air!
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I hope one day India gets a politician like Ron Paul.
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Wow a Foxnews guy i dont hate. +1 point.
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More and more Cavuto is starting to see Fox is bullshit, he knows deep down Ron Paul is right, lol you can tell
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guys im a Filipino who is concerned about the state of the world. America really affects the condition in the world so much. I have been following updates in your country including your next election. I hope you make Mr. Paul win the presidential elections. He may not cover in his platform all things you need but what he has in mind will for sure help a lot in giving you a better life. Considering that those things try fix out the roots of the problems you have. Best of luck to you all.
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Nebraska GOP Crooks have vowed that on the 14th of July they’ll do WHATEVER it takes to have Ron Paul Supporters SILENCED! See the strong-arm tactics these creatures have already set in motion to cheat Ron Paul of Delegates :
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Contact Lawyers4RP, Ron Paul’s Campaign — and ALL that are needed to go to Nebraska and assure that NO CHEATING against Real Americans is done, again!
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Nebraska GOP Mafia has vowed that on the 14th of July they’ll do WHATEVER it takes to have Ron Paul Supporters SILENCED! See the strong-arm tactics these creatures have already set in motion to cheat Ron Paul of Delegates :
http://nebraska.watchdog.org/23602/exclusive-security-doubled-at-gop-convention-in-anticipation-of-ron-paul-insurgency/
Contact Lawyers4RP, Ron Paul’s Campaign — and ALL that are needed to go to Nebraska and assure that NO CHEATING against Real Americans is done, again!
Spread this like wildfire!
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I use to not like Ron Paul because I didn’t really understand him. After getting to know his stances they make sense. I don’t agree on EVERYTHING he says but he is easily the best candidate for president in my mind.
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He is also for something that our founding fathers fought for, freedom and liberty. He is a very strong no-bullshit constitionalist who knows a bill is either consititutional or it’s not, none of this halfway bullshit
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thier intent is to move to a cashless world economy you no longer have physical money they outlaw it canida the uk mexico and china are going to chip thier people too
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this whole entire obama care bill was entirly based on the rfid chip the medical coverage was the smoke and mirrors to cover up t hier intent to chip all of us
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yes it’s an implant it goes under your skin
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check this out OBAMA placed a gag order not to speak about the RFID chips hidden in the obama care bill a tracking device linked to your health records and at some future point your bank account your taxes ect that sneaking devisive manipulator put that piece of legistaltion in the bill and placed a gag order on everyone not to talk about it if they told america they were going to be branded like cattle do you think obama care would have passed?
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we need to make people opt out of the RFID chips hidden in the obama care bill as well i dont want shit like that put under my skin
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someone needs to live day to day with ron paul so when he ‘dies’ my prediction is 2 months after this next election, so after four more years of bank fucking we can be a real country
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Obama’s Puppet’s!!!!!!!!!
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Mitt Romney 2012
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Mitt Romney 2012
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This is why me and everyone I know will not be voting for Ron paul, He would rather have the sick and dieing Dead and save The rich money, dont let this guy fool you, he doesnt care about the true needs of americans, only the wealthy, the 1% He says Life is a right, well if im dieing becuase I dont have health insurance, well then he is a fucking hypocrite
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When I start a family my children are getting Private Healthcare, and they’re going to Private School.
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Yes, Soviet Republics – they have existed but apparently many came as a result of revolution and warfare, and none have worked in practise since. But Worker’s Co-op’s and direct democracy is a good thing. You know what, I found out that Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Mitt Romney and even Ron Paul are brought together by a John Birch society/Cleon Skousen connection, which popularized NWO anti-communist ideas in the 60′s. William Guy Carr first pushed Illuminati theories in the 40′s.
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You know what? The more I talk about this, the more I see the similarity in the need of direct democracy and unions. This all reminds me at the sowjetrepublic (sowjet =means council of workers). Hannah Ahrendt, as a Totalitarism-researcher preffered the council-republic more than a representative democracy! Because of the courage and responsibility thing I mentioned. Great mind, she saw it coming.
When I say, our ideal statesystem reminds me at the sovjetrepublic, I mean BEFORE stalin took over
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Perfect. Chomsky’s mixture is what I’m thinking of, too. At least, in the simple way I understand it. We have to prevail direct democratic unions (=responsible people) while government gets smaller. If we focus on that, make peoples rights and property rights powerfull, and use government to uphold laws because of the unions will. That’s why I’m not propagating anarchism here (would love to). Instead, I try to believe Ron Paul, when his policy encourages people to protect themselves from elite.
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I also am in favour of nationwide standardised education, I think this is a good reason for government to perform this function too.
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Koch brothers will benefit as opposed to everyone else from a dismantling of government because then they can stay rich as opposed to everyone else, and move abroad to new pastures after raping the US.
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Thanks for the discussion, and these are my ideas and ‘research’. Do not forget that Socialist method of raising taxes on the rich and breaking apart monopolies has worked BEFORE, just after the Great depression when income inequality and corporate lobbying were at their worst. However, Corporate lobbying is very strong and the Koch brothers fund lots of Libertarian disinformation in order to make people believe the only solution is dismantling government. So the people are very divided now.
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But the rich monopolies will still exist in such a system. This seems like the big problem to me. They will be no regulations to prevent them buying private armies, to prevent them polluting, to prevent them using wage slavery against their workers. If they band together, maybe even government forces cannot defeat them. But then again, if worker co-operatives spread, maybe workers will be more likely to join them. Will worker co-operatives need armies as well? There is much to discuss.
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Now lets say that the government is dismantled apart from taxes towards the judiciary and the military, and collective funding is the only way for income redistribution (amongst the poor). How can you make sure the extremely rich monopolies cannot bribe the judiciary and the military? How can you make sure that the rich monopolies don’t own the media and push their own propaganda? By the people funding their OWN INDEPENDENT MEDIA, that’s how. By Worker Co-operatives fighting the monopolies.
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So government isn’t really working properly at the moment, yes. However, if you reduce social spending and taxes on the rich (as what happened after Reagan), you can get rid of all the good things I mentioned and make monopolies bigger, richer and more in control of government. I bet you cannot answer if I ask you how much government we should have, I’m not really sure either. The only way to properly dismantle government programs is if everyone joins Worker Co-ops which entail these benefits.
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At the moment, income inequality is widening, governments are becoming less representative and enormously influenced by corporations, the Law and anti-monopoly laws are not applying to Goldman Sachs, etc., the military/police are used by Corp’s through government, Healthcare and prisons are privatised, Koch brothers are destroying pollution regulations, public education and workers Unions. Only the firefighter service is OK – but recent cuts in this allowed a raging fire to spread in a US state.
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The idea behind paying tax to a Centralised government is to achieve the following conditions: 1. Create an entity through which public opinion can be channeled 2. More income equality 3. One judiciary for EVERYONE (the law applies to ALL) 4. A police/military to protect everyone 5. Decent standardised education for ALL 6. Regulations on pollution 7. Regulations to prevent workers being paid a pittance to survive 8. Prevent monopolies 9. Decent Healthcare for ALL 10. Firefighters for ALL
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By the way: IT’S MEDIA which has to help people to gain a rational, responsible and encouragable mind. Without progressive media (better padagogical education) whether big government or unleashed industry will be able to make worse and worse crimes.
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Chomsky advocates Libertarian Socialism – have you heard of the Kibbutz and the Spanish worker movements? These were egalitarian societies/worker co-operatives where inequality was reduced and people had a say on the direction of the enterprise. However power hungry governments were afraid of these co-operatives and tried to dismantle them. A world without government is a lawless place but Limited government WITHOUT worker co-operatives is a place where rich monopolies force workers to starve.
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True!
So we need either big government as a robin hood for the people.
Or we need small government to awaken a robin hood in the people’s minds.
These seem to be two completely differnt ways, but: Both ways would be able to get rid of inequality. But one of it, is by use of force and the other is by waking responsibility and courage of the people.
So now I made clear, why at least in idea the unforced one is sexier. On top of that, we don’t even have a robin hood state. we have the sheriff
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