623 responses to “GOP Establishment Fears Ron Paul Upset at the Convention”

  1. Dylan Megaw

    An embarrassment to demorcay and honorable tradition

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  2. Dylan Megaw

    You are doing the right thing mate :) why be forced to vote and choose the lesser of two evils when you can make yo’re own decisions and use you’re free will

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  3. Dylan Megaw

    You are doing the right thing mate :) why be forced to vote and choose the lesser of two evils when you can make yo’re own decisions and use you’re free will

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  4. Tulipstarful .

    The GOP dropped the ball BIG TIME when they decided to appoint their crooked rich boy Mitt Romney. If there was anybody *at all* that most people would’ve voted over Obama, it would have been Ron Paul. It’s too late now though, and Obama won. This is what happens when old rich bastards hijack your political party, they rather run it INTO THE GROUND unless they keep total control of it in favor of corporate interests.

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  5. Tulipstarful

    The GOP dropped the ball BIG TIME when they decided to appoint their crooked rich boy Mitt Romney. If there was anybody *at all* that most people would’ve voted over Obama, it would have been Ron Paul. It’s too late now though, and Obama won. This is what happens when old rich bastards hijack your political party, they rather run it INTO THE GROUND unless they keep total control of it in favor of corporate interests.

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  6. madefor themedia

    R Paul is was cheated out of the nomination

    1. Elected delegates replaced w Romney unelected ppl

    2. Changed rules, 5 state min to 8 state so RP would not be nominated

    3. Paul ppl not allowed to bring signs Romney ppl were

    4. Boehmer ignored opposition vote

    5. New rules allow RNC to choose delegates rather than the states

    6. RNC announced Romney votes, Paul votes stated as OTHER

    7. google : . Waldo County election fraud, RNC Fake delegate lists, RNC teleprompter

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  7. madefor themedia

    R Paul is was cheated out of the nomination

    1. Elected delegates replaced w Romney unelected ppl

    2. Changed rules, 5 state min to 8 state so RP would not be nominated

    3. Paul ppl not allowed to bring signs Romney ppl were

    4. Boehmer ignored opposition vote

    5. New rules allow RNC to choose delegates rather than the states

    6. RNC announced Romney votes, Paul votes stated as OTHER

    7. google : . Waldo County election fraud, RNC Fake delegate lists, RNC teleprompter

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  8. InuShonen .

    Romney vs. Obama = Giant Douchebag vs. Turd Sandwich

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  9. InuShonen

    Romney vs. Obama = Giant Douchebag vs. Turd Sandwich

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  10. Guy S

    If you’re going to have rules on delegates, you can’t change the rules in the middle of an election in order to be fair for all parties. There really shouldn’t be any rules on how delegates can be used. The states determine the delegates and who those delegates are to support for President. The states rights should be maintained, and not over-ruled by neither the RNC or the DNC.

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  11. Guido Sarducci

    If you’re going to have rules on delegates, you can’t change the rules in the middle of an election in order to be fair for all parties. There really shouldn’t be any rules on how delegates can be used. The states determine the delegates and who those delegates are to support for President. The states rights should be maintained, and not over-ruled by neither the RNC or the DNC.

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  12. guylstephenson

    If you’re going to have rules on delegates, you can’t change the rules in the middle of an election in order to be fair for all parties. There really shouldn’t be any rules on how delegates can be used. The states determine the delegates and who those delegates are to support for President. The states rights should be maintained, and not over-ruled by neither the RNC or the DNC.

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  13. ejpetersondub

    Yea, i suppose.

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  14. Ethercruiser1

    The disenfranchised Maine delegation eventually walked out of the convention chanting “As Maine goes, so goes the nation”. And they will be right! The nation will walk away from Romney & the corrupt GOP will face a huge defeat in November against Obama. Ron Paul supporters won’t vote for Romney. They most likely will vote 3rd Party.

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  15. sirellyn

    Go back to your original question for the 4th time.
    “exactly how is socialism better if you work for the gov”

    The implication is for the current gov or which-ever country is in question. Again I assumed an intelligent question.

    If you move to a country and want (in general) the best pay, benefits, support and future from a job. You may pick gov, vested business, or entrepreneur, based on if current priorities were socialist, fascist, or individual centric.

    Make sense?

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  16. ejpetersondub

    Alright this is a stupid argument. I thought you were comparing different countries. Government workers are still treated better in the US than Venezuela, even though within Venezuela government workers are probably treated better than businesses.

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  17. sirellyn

    I should be clear. Fascism supports VESTED business. That is, business that does its best to manipulate the gov to get what it wants. Any business outside this clique suffers as much as anyone else does.

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  18. sirellyn

    Which socialist gov (that actually have preference to gov spending over others) do not have gov workers who are in better situations than the average individual or business worker?

    Take Venezuela, it certainly is socialist. Average business there isn’t so hot. The best ones are foreign companies, who are at the mercy of the gov for their continued status. For local ppl there, the best jobs (on avg) are certainly with the gov.

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  19. sirellyn

    The US is currently fascist leaning. Who do you think gets a bigger paycheck, better benefits and more freedom to do whatever they want?

    People at the SEC, EPA, FDA, FBI, or people at Goldman Sachs, Monsanto, Lockheed Martin, and Haliburton? (Morality aside obviously)

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  20. sirellyn

    The US is currently fascist leaning. Who do you think gets a bigger paycheck, better benefits and more freedom to do whatever they want?

    People at the SEC, EPA, FDA, FBI, or people at Goldman Sachs, Monsanto, Lockheed Martin, and Haliburton? (Morality aside obviously)

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  21. ejpetersondub

    No, that’s simply not true. The US has some of the best treated government workers in the world. Are we socialist? No. There is absolutely no correlation. What you’re trying to say simply doesn’t exist in reality. Look at the world. The socialist governments simply DO NOT have the best treated government workers. Your just lying through your teeth. There is ZERO evidence to support your ridiculous theories.

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  22. sirellyn

    I believe you are mistaking a label for actual preferences.

    Bush labeled himself as a peace making president, did his actions make it so?

    Many countries label themselves as socialist, communist etc. If you simply use these, they are meaningless. A country may call itself whatever it likes, but it’s preferences as seen by it’s actions determine it’s current leaning.

    A country which spends most on gov is both acting socialist and generally better place for gov workers. (compared to others)

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  23. ejpetersondub

    All I have to do is argue the simple stand-alone point that higher funding allotment doesn’t directly lead to better treatment.

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  24. ejpetersondub

    No, I was simply referring to what you said: “You asked why in a socialist environment would it be more beneficial to be in the government.” which is of course completely wrong. You seem to think why and how are interchangeable. Or you forget what you write. I’m simply pointing out the blatantly obvious fact that socialist governments do not necessarily have the best treated gov’t workers. It’s SIMPLY not true. What don’t you understand?

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  25. sirellyn

    This is simply for you. You have to argue the point that if some group has an actionable preference (despite what they say, they spend much more of their allotted money on individuals, business, or gov)

    They will, at the same time, NOT spend more on that same item. So you’re arguing a contradictory point.

    They could in the next moment change. That would mean their priorities would change and they’d be considered now something different.

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  26. sirellyn

    What would happen in a poor socialist situation? What is the dependable means for improving things? Gov. Resources would be reallotted from business and individuals to gov via taxation and inflation. So which section would be growing and which shrinking?

    Rich fascist, gov has enough to get by, which is more important? Vested business. Where does the extra money go if gov is at base maintainable levels? Vested business.

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  27. sirellyn

    How is the means by which something is done. Or have you changed the english language while I wasn’t looking? The means are people, preference and payment. Which part don’t you understand?

    So either you’re asking an obtuse question, and want to understand HOW modern day money transfers are made. (which has nothing to do with socialism, and I assumed you more intelligent)

    Or you are asking a how question in a why manner, (very common occurrence) such as “How come no girls like me?”

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  28. ejpetersondub

    Your not making any sense. As if allotment meant anything. Government employees can easily be treated better in a fascist regime than a socialist one. There can be a rich fascist regime and a poor socialist one. You couldn’t have failed any harder. You’re clueless. Go read a book or bang your head on a wall, you will absorb the same information either way.

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  29. ejpetersondub

    You said that you answered why. I did not ask why, so therefore you did not know the question. Or do you want me to believe you knew I asked how and just chose to answer why? That’s retarded.

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  30. sirellyn

    Preference for funding. Is it provable? Sure, simple logic. Is a fascist system which will allocate most money first and foremost to gov agents over business fascist? No you’d call it socialist. Imagine the US cut all subsidy and bailouts and nationalized instead. Would you call it fascist? All gov have some collections of funds. (even if some are small)

    So in general, if you are in the field preference of that gov type you’ll get more of the allotment, which in turn is “better”.

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  31. sirellyn

    I never used the word “understand” until now. I understood the question just fine. You want to break the question down into words?

    “exactly how is socialism better if you work for the gov”

    for who – The individual working for the gov
    better – generally (on average) preferred over the inverse option. (not working for gov)
    implying benefits. Which benefits? Money, or allocation of funding.

    Now again the answer..

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  32. ejpetersondub

    You just admitted you didn’t even understand the question, and now you’re claiming you answered it? No, you didn’t answer it. Simply saying “priorities in a socialized system is gov.” doesn’t explain or prove shit. In fact, the only thing it does prove is your complete ignorance on the subject.

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  33. Kakkerot86

    Same here man I’m not a republican either anymore as well its pretty sad that the GOP used to be an honorable party but not anymore unfortunately I personally agree with Jesse Ventura when he said he thinks that the 2 party system should be abolished I think it should be in my opinion.

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  34. sirellyn

    “Exactly how is socialism better if you work for the government?”

    Read again. An answer is an answer even if you don’t like what it says.

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  35. ejpetersondub

    I didn’t ask why I asked how, and you didn’t answer that question because one doesn’t exist.

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