by Ron Paul
The attack on the US consulate in Libya and the killing of the US Ambassador and several aides is another tragic example of how our interventionist foreign policy undermines our national security. The more the US tries to control the rest of the world, either by democracy promotion, aid to foreign governments, or by bombs, the more events spin out of control into chaos, unintended consequences, and blowback.
Unfortunately, what we saw in Libya last week is nothing new.
In 1980s Afghanistan, the US supported Islamic radicals in their efforts to expel the invading Soviet military. These radicals became what is known to be al-Qaeda, and our one-times allies turned on us most spectacularly on September 11, 2001.
Iraq did not have a significant al-Qaeda presence before the 2003 US invasion, but our occupation of that country and attempt to remake it in our image caused a massive reaction that opened the door to al-Qaeda, leading to thousands of US soldiers dead, a country destroyed, and instability that shows no sign of diminishing.
In Libya we worked with, among others, the rebel Libyan Fighting Group (LIFG) which included foreign elements of al-Qaeda. It has been pointed out that the al-Qaeda affiliated radicals we fought in Iraq were some of the same groups we worked with to overthrow Gaddafi in Libya. Last year in a television interview I predicted that the result of NATO’s bombing of Libya would likely be an increased al-Qaeda presence in the country. I said at the time that we may be delivering al-Qaeda another prize.
Not long after NATO overthrew Gaddafi, the al-Qaeda flag was flown over the courthouse in Benghazi. Should we be surprised, then, that less than a year later there would be an attack on our consulate in Benghazi? We have been told for at least the past eleven years that these people are the enemy who seeks to do us harm.
There is danger in the belief we can remake the world by bribing some countries and bombing others. But that is precisely what the interventionists – be they liberal or conservative – seem to believe. When the world does not conform to their image, they seem genuinely shocked. The secretary of state’s reaction to the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi was one of confusion. “How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction,” she asked.
The problem is that we do not know and we cannot know enough about these societies we are seeking to remake. We never try to see through the eyes of those we seek to liberate. Libya is in utter chaos, the infrastructure has been bombed to rubble, the economy has ceased to exist, gangs and militias rule by brutal force, the government is seen as a completely illegitimate and powerless US puppet. How could anyone be shocked that the Libyans do not see our bombing their country as saving it from destruction?
Currently, the US is actively supporting rebels in Syria that even our CIA tells us are affiliated with al-Qaeda. Many of these radical Islamist fighters in Syria were not long ago fighting in Libya. We must learn from these mistakes and immediately cease all support for the Syrian rebels, lest history once again repeat itself. We are literally backing the same people in Syria that we are fighting in Afghanistan and that have just killed our ambassador in Libya! We must finally abandon the interventionist impulse before it is too late.
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So, what you’re saying is that they defied an order that restricted their freedom to vote as they thought the people they represented would want them to. In that light, the RNC was restricting their rights under the first amendment.
Well, sounds legit to me, I think we can end this argument now.
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I agree with a lot of Ron Paul’s policies, and if I could vote on November 12, I’d vote for him. However, I don’t like his supporters. Many of you guys(Notice I didn’t say “ALL”) support Ron Paul, but for radical reasons.
Listen to me now, even if Ron Paul was elected twice, we would still not be out of the hole we’re in now. Any policies he would actually succeed in creating would be torn back down again the second he comes out of office.
Somehow, I have the feeling that nothing can save us.
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You don’t have any idea what you are talking about. The rule change takes effect in 2016 and it requires 8 states, not 5. Ron Paul only had 4 states. He needed 5 and only had 4. You need to do some research and don’t do it on the daily paul. You’re a joke. Stop posting and stop making a fool of yourself.
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Don’t waste your time watching tonight’s “debate”.
Here is the condensed version, ready for all to watch now in only 6 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vWVdOTFs8M&feature=player_embedded
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Excuse me, But its been PROVEN that the RNC broke rules. And CHANGED rules. Hence why it went from 5 states of delegates to 10. Please do your Research, I am sick of this “One-minded” conversation. Maybe if you actually opend up your mind, You could learn the truth. Its so easy, Stop being lied to.
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Excuse me, But its been PROVEN that the RNC broke rules. And CHANGED rules. Hence why it went from 5 states of delegates to 10. Please do your Research, I am sick of this “One-minded” conversation. Maybe if you actually opend up your mind, You could learn the truth. Its so easy, Stop being lied to.
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The Nevada delegates were bound to Romney. They could not support Ron Paul at their discretion. The people who were corrupt were the Ron Paul delegates who did not follow the rules specified by the Nevada state convention. The RNC did not violate rules or change rules. The rule that was changed does not take effect until 2016. you’re clueless.
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I didnt state that they couldnt choose the first round of choice. But when Santorums delegates decided to go for Ron Paul. or “Drop” out of it. Ron Paul delegates took controll of it. So yea, They WERE Bind. It is “PROVEN.” You sir, Dont have rightful proof. This was all over the news, The Corrupt news. It must be some big shit if the Corrupt Media actually has to play it because its so obvious.
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More sensible talk everybody understands. Well done Ron Paul.
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I addressed all his links. They are not accurate. He’s getting misinformed by the Daily Paul. He claimed state conventions are prohibited from binding delegates. That is absurd. All state conventions bind delegates for the first round, some for the second round. Ron Paul did not have the states to get into the first round so there was no second round. You’re an idiot.
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Excuse me, But do you not research these things? Because it sure seems that way. All the thinks Vexx506 have been saying are research proved. Document proved. They were even on the news, Where have you been entirely? Please do research again, Then come back to argue with people that do their research.
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You are a sad individual.
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keep on going, if 50% of americans voted for Ron Paul, something’s bound to happen.
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Again, nobody cares, Mouse. I see they flagged your comment for spam in here too. Silly mouse. Will you ever learn?
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Again, nobody cares, Mouse. I see they flagged your comment for spam in here too. Silly mouse. Will you ever learn?
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*playing
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Because Rand is plaing the political game. If he didn’t support Romney this election then the RNC wouldn’t support him in the next election.
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a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Ron Paul
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because rand paul is a douchebag
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The saddest part about Ron Paul not able to become president is realizing that we need Ron Paul so much, but Ron Paul don’t really need us. =(
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Ron Paul please continue to run for president, anonymous will back you up. We will spread the message to write you into office and to have hard copy elections, where manual voting you in will be the solution for rigged elections, so by population vote of the majority. We need you in the office. Everyone spread the word of protesting at your voting booths for a manual vote and not electronic, because of no confidence in governmental affairs. Please hold up the lines make a scene and take a group
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ron paul is awesome
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RON PAUL 2016
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Somebody please explain to me why Rand Paul defected over to Mitt Romney.
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Ron Paul is out. Vote Gary Johnson.
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RON PAUL 2012
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WHO IS GARY JOHNSON?!? LET HIM DEBATE!
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Those who say things like that are still sleeping, afraid to find out the truth, afraid to change. Something my father taught me was to question everything, to dig deeper than what others say and find the truth before making a commitment. People lie! (Dr. House taught me that one. LOL) so I am glad I did my research and found Dr. Paul.
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Lol yea it was sarcasm. But it was more of a “fuck you!” to all the people who said voting for RP was a waste because inevitably he was going to lose. I’m thinking “vote for the message you dumb half-abortions!”
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Why do you feel that way? Why are you so angry? What happened to you?
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I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not.
I don’t think I wasted my vote on Ron Paul. He opened up the conversation about the FED, the corruption of the special interests in our govt, the constitution and why it is important to know our rights, unjust laws/regulation, history and more.
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RP never said that he wanted to end govt. He talks about reducing the govt, which it’s different. Reducing or eliminating those fed govt organization that are too darn corrupt to fix. There are many that are abridging our rights with their special interest people getting nominated to those positions. Know about Monsanto? GMO?
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He was a handyman who started his business knocking on doors until he grew it into a 1,000+ employees. His Governance in New Mexico, he vetoed over 700 bills that came thru his desk. Call him mini mr. no. lol This has been the only time in my life that I became interested in politics in my 40+ years.
I voted for RP in the primaries and will vote for Gary Johnson in this elections. I am now a Libertarian after learning about all that RP has taught me. Did you know about Ross Perot?
lol
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708 now 9 likes… 6 dislikes.. go to any romney video and its the other way around… how did he not win?
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You should all be commited to the “Land of The Lost”.
What a bunch of fuckin’ loonies you are!
GET PSYCHIATRIC HELP, YOU FUCKIN’ SQUIRREL BAIT!!!!!!!
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