• http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Ileko1 Ileko1

    I think you are looking bit too hard into it, but you do understand what I meant: You can’t take land that you don’t own, without it being stealing, which is illegal.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Ileko1 Ileko1

    I was talking about a modern situation and legal ownership of the land. I was not talking about a situation where the land is taken by force, the owner concedes defeat and gives the land to the winning side, which is what happened with the war you referenced.
    I was talking about the fact that a state can not just say that they own the land and disband the union.
    That’s a funny argument ‘GOOGLE IT’, I can also go and Google information that says that reptilians are controlling the world too.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=OcchiAzzurriDue OcchiAzzurriDue

    Firstly, unless you are part of the first American Majority (the original natives of this land) you don’t own squat. Secondly, under your premise the US is still OWNED by the United Kingdom. If you truly believe what you are spouting then you are just a squatter and should be evicted or imprisoned by either of the first two parties. You aren’t even smart enough to realize you live in a Republic nor do you know it’s meaning. Google it and learn something then re-examine what you have stated.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=RobertAlva Robert Alva

    You are wrong. In your analogy it would be like surveyors coming and saying that THIS is your property line. We have an HOA so look over the contract before signing it. You see nothing wrong with the contract and join the HOA. You don’t steal anything BUT every few years the HOA changes the rules and charges you fees ‘without representation’. You can try and vote out the HOA but they are entrenched. There is nothing in the contract that requires you stay in the HOA so you try to leave.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=KayBeeEee1983 KayBeeEee1983

    The Constitution doesn’t give Congress the power to end state unions.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=eschompthis eschompthis

    Congress has the power to create and end state unions.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=KayBeeEee1983 KayBeeEee1983

    Puerto Rico can’t be made a state by executive order and Puerto Rico’s vote means absolutely nothing. Puerto Rico could become a state even if none of their residents wanted to be a state.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=KayBeeEee1983 KayBeeEee1983

    You and Paul couldn’t be more wrong. Can states be kicked out of the union against their will?

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=KayBeeEee1983 KayBeeEee1983

    I meant what are you talking about regarding giving Puerto Rico statehood by fiat.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=mikeyramone33 mikeyramone33

    for a state to secede from the union all states must vote for or against.only a vote of all states voting YEA will alow a state to secede. p.r. may be made a state by a vote in p.r. and an executive order!

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=GeorgeFitzhugh GeorgeFitzhugh

    The whole point of entering a Union is that it will serve the good of all the States entering it. When it ceases to do so, sovereign States have the right to leave if they please. That is the beauty of a union. That was the original meaning of the US flag. Each star represents a State in a voluntary Union.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=GeorgeFitzhugh GeorgeFitzhugh

    Dr. Paul is right. State sovereignty was not questioned at the founding. A “Union” is by definition a league of sovereign states, each of which has the right to withdraw from the union if it pleases. E.g., the European Union, the Soviet Union. See Federalist Paper 40. See Article I, section 10, which lists things States in the Union may not do. Secession is not on the list. A motion at Philadelphia was brought to put on the list: it was tabled without debate.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Ileko1 Ileko1

    So it belongs to the people? 300 million people or so in your country that the country belongs to. Let’s say a state like Texas which has 25 million people decide to secede and take the land from the people. In that case it doesn’t belong to the 300 million people who are part of the union anymore, but the people of Texas who by your own logic stole the land from those 300 million people living in the United States, you think that’s okay?

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Ileko1 Ileko1

    Actually, you can try and effect the government. Definition of democracy is not ”Leave when people disagree with you”. People have to work together, not just leave when things don’t go their way, but if they decide to leave then they aren’t supposed to take the LAND with them, as if they own it.
    Imagine if you rented land to bunch of people and they pay you rent(like states pay some of their tax to the government). Then you do some decisions that they don’t like and declare they own your land.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=alexperdomo alex perdomo

    you act like that money belongs to the federal government in the first place. Btw texas has the 11th biggest economy in the world i don’t think they’d have a big problem

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=alexperdomo alex perdomo

    Im pretty sure that this country belongs to the people not the federal government. My house doesn’t belong to the federal government i paid for it with my labor. neither do my neighbors houses. So if we decided to have our own society why is that illegal. I don’t think secession is ever going to happen so its a mute point but there is nothing “illegal” about secession

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=therosscompton therosscompton

    Ron Paul ! Please come speak at the University of North Texas. I will promote for you.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=WePrimates WePrimates

    Of course. Everyone here can see that you are much more intelligent and accomplished than Ron Paul.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pizzanbeer11 pizzanbeer11

    And this, my friends, is really the only argument that the statists have.

    “The government owns you, and they can do whatever the hell they want. So shut up and get back to work, peasants.”

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=VolaGrowski Vola Growski

    Lol this guy is an idiot

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TheHerbBible TheHerbBible

    Hell Yes

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=orphanmonkey1 orphanmonkey1

    OR DO WE NEED TO ASK AN INDIAN????

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=orphanmonkey1 orphanmonkey1

    Im on board for secession. Im tired of being taxed by low lifes who make kids and I have to pay for them. And yet those low lifes can vote, yet to determine how we spend our tax money. Give me an island, and I will give you an answer.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Ileko1 Ileko1

    States are not allowed to secede from the Union. If you do not agree with the ideas of America you are allowed to leave, but you cannot take the land that belongs to the United States government.
    If a state or group of people do not like the ideas of United States of America they may leave and start their own nation in a land not owned by the united states, or they can try to secede and start another civil war.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=KayBeeEee1983 KayBeeEee1983

    What are you talking about

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=mikeyramone33 mikeyramone33

    a state may secede if all states vote for it.its funny thogh Puerto rico may be given statehood by fiat.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Obvious027 Obvious027

    What is next? A fragmented U.S.A? I thought the plan was to take over the World?

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=KayBeeEee1983 KayBeeEee1983

    Can states be expelled from the Union? If not, then they can’t secede either.
    “An inference from the doctrine that a single state has a right to secede at will from the rest, is that the rest would have a right to secede from it; in other words, to turn it, against its will, out of its union with them.”
    — James Madison

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=perdondaris perdondaris

    Actually Russia has more mineral resources than the entire USA.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=perdondaris perdondaris

    I’d think again pal. Texas’ oil economy is based on commerce between US, Canada etc.

    An embargo would bring Texas to its knees in a matter of weeks. Think of all the supply lines, highways etc and all of the federal money Texas rakes in to make sure nobody messes with Texas.

    Plus consider how much the oil companies are subsidized by the US taxpayers.

    Face it Texas: you need us more than we need you.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TravisValdovinos Travis Valdovinos

    Do some research bud, Texas pays more in taxes than we receive. We also provide about 25% or more of the united states oil. A point of reference would be that the middle east provides around 12-15% of our oil. So re-think who would go bankrupt.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=mikeyramone33 mikeyramone33

    texas has a bigger economy than Russia!

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=perdondaris perdondaris

    Instead of seceding why don’t you go find another country that shares your values?

    Like Saudi Arabia or Russia? Russia has a flat tax and Saudi Arabia shares your “family values”.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=perdondaris perdondaris

    You know why Red States won’t secede?

    They take more money from the Federal gov’t than liberal socialist blue states.

    I would love to see Texas secede from the Union just so I could see them come crying back when their economy collapses.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tiborwarski tibor warski

    In a nutshell….wah wah wah.

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