1,311 responses to “Ron Paul: Secession Is an American Principle”

  1. Concetta Tease

    Hola Jorge de antemano quisieramos saber en que lugar de la geografia nacional te encuentras. De esta forma es mucho mas facil para nosotros informarte con precision a que entidad puedes dirigirte.

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  2. robinsss

    that was his opinion doesn’t mean it was right

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  3. robinsss

    Lincoln didn’t care about the slaves at all

    Lincoln didn’t free the slaves the 13th amendment did

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  4. ParadoxPerspective

    Dem eyebrows…

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  5. edwards21416

    southern succession in America, is the only chance for whites that wish to help their kin.

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  6. edwards21416

    when they brought in foreign labour that was the start of the end for the U.S

    poor whites would have suffered then and now its the same poor white don’t stand a chance in some areas.

    Now its the same in Europe,europeans are losing their jobs to foreign labour, market forces determine that, and they are set when governemts open boarders

    as soon as boaders are gone the trouble really kicks in

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  7. edwards21416

    when they brought in foreign labour that was the start of the end for the U.S

    poor whites would have suffered then and now its the same poor white don’t stand a chance in some areas.

    Now its the same in Europe,europeans are losing their jobs to foreign labour, market forces determine that, and they are set when governemts open boarders

    as soon as boaders are gone the trouble really kicks in

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  8. edwards21416

    when they brought in foreign labour that was the start of the end for the U.S
    poor whites would have suffered then and now its the same poor white don’t stand a chance in some areas.
    Now its the same in Europe,europeans are losing their jobs to foreign labour market forces determine that and they are set when governemts open boarders
    as soon as boaders are gone the trouble really kicks in

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  9. satidog

    Again though, the percentage of soldiers who owned slaves doesn’t weigh on the actual cause of the war. God knows they weren’t well served in fighting it.

    And while I get the metaphor in saying that we’re still all ‘slaves’ in some way, it doesn’t really do justice to the actual slaves to take it so literally. I might hate paying my taxes but I’m not going to be chained and whipped for trying to move somewhere else and no one is going to sell my children away. It was an abomination.

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  10. satidog

    Again though, the percentage of soldiers who owned slaves doesn’t weigh on the actual cause of the war. God knows they weren’t well served in fighting it.

    And while I get the metaphor in saying that we’re still all ‘slaves’ in some way, it doesn’t really do justice to the actual slaves to take it so literally. I might hate paying my taxes but I’m not going to be chained and whipped for trying to move somewhere else and no one is going to sell my children away. It was an abomination.

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  11. Hank Scorpio

    How many of the soldiers who fought in the civil war actually owned slaves? I’m not talking about high ranking officers, but the ones who actually did the killing. War makes slaves of all free men, that is the real slavery. The fact that the north won the war does not mean you or I are not slaves! That is the point, that slavery was not abolished.

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  12. satidog

    Oh boy. Even though a few thousand slaves managed to escape over all those years, it was barely a fraction of the number held in bondage. Consider that about 2/5 of people in the South were slaves. Slavery wasn’t being solved by the ‘underground railroad.’ It was enough to agitate and threaten the slave owners. They felt the threat to slavery as their dominance in Washington was fading away. Secession leaders made it quite clear why they were leaving. It really was about slavery.

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  13. satidog

    Oh boy. Even though a few thousand slaves managed to escape over all those years, it was barely a fraction of the number held in bondage. Consider that about 2/5 of people in the South were slaves. Slavery wasn’t being solved by the ‘underground railroad.’ It was enough to agitate and threaten the slave owners. They felt the threat to slavery as their dominance in Washington was fading away. Secession leaders made it quite clear why they were leaving. It really was about slavery.

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  14. satidog

    In fact, the issue of escaping slaves was a lot of what the political fighting was about prior to the war. The southern leaders, while still holding sway in Washington, didn’t care about ‘states rights’ when they used the federal government to go into free states after their escaped “property.” Blacks accused of being escaped slaves had no legal recourse and deserved none, according to those champions of ‘freedom.’

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  15. Hank Scorpio

    The war was about economics, the south had a large investment in slavery, of course! Very unfortunate that the acts of Lincoln only fortified the powers of the Federal Government (whether intentional or not). The point is that these new powers gained by Lincoln, after the war was over, were never given back to the states, and the Fed grew bigger and more corrupt.

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  16. SemperFidelis0229

    The slaves weren’t being freed, they were escaping and could be returned at any time to their former owners. The cause was states rights vs the fed, and slavery was a bisection of states vs gov, a big one. Lincoln supported states rights, and felt the gov had no rightful power to take their slaves, just to stop its expansion. He freed them because 1) it would end the war and 2) he felt it was the right thing to do. You’re trying to change history; it won’t work

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  17. Hank Scorpio

    The civil war was NOT about slavery! The slaves were already being freed during the underground rail-rode movement in mass numbers. The main cause of the civil war WAS state rights vs the Federal Government. Lincoln was a big fan of the Federal Government, and hated state sovereignty. Your history books are propaganda which portray Lincoln to be the greatest President, when in fact his legacy was much more harm than good!

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  18. Rodney O Show

    He didn’t get elected because its rigged

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  19. ltmikepowell

    Again, the system itself isn’t perfect. But at least Lincoln tried his best to avoid the corrupted money controllers in Wall Street and most of all, City of London. And the reason why Civil War happens so fast is because of the money controllers that use their scheme to split the U.S. as their revenge after their disgraceful defeat at the hand of Andrew Jackson’s Bank War. But the again, I could be wrong.

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  20. ltmikepowell

    There’s one of the few dark side when comes to fiat paper currency, but what I learnt is that the late President Lincoln shocked by the interest rates charged by the bankers in Wall Street for the war’s finance. So with congress and Secretary of Treasury approval, the Greenback was born. Of course, BOTH Dixie and Northern states used fiat currency, but compare to the inflation rates on both sides’ currency, Greenback suffered less compare to their southern neighbor.

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  21. KC Culp

    What you forgot to say is that printing paper money which was not backed by gold (i.e. fiat money) was unconstitutional. By the end of the war these “greenbacks” were virtually worthless. Therefore, the public financed the war through a hidden tax called inflation. Lincoln also instituted an unconstitutional income tax to pay for the war.

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  22. KC Culp

    The United States was formed by 13 independent colonies / states. None of the states would have entered the union without the belief that they could secede. The New England states threatened to secede three times in the early 1800s. Three states, Virginia, Rhode Island and New York included the right to secede in their approval of the Constitution. The conservative states need to secede now before the dollar and the country collapse!

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  23. KC Culp

    The United States was formed by 13 independent colonies / states. None of the states would have entered the union without the belief that they could secede. The New England states threatened to secede three times in the early 1800s. Three states, Virginia, Rhode Island and New York included the right to secede in their approval of the Constitution. The conservative states need to secede now before the dollar and the country collapse!

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  24. KC Culp

    The United States was formed by 13 independent colonies / states. None of the states would have entered the union without the belief that they could secede. The New England states threatened to secede three times in the early 1800s. Three states, Virginia, Rhode Island and New York included the right to secede in their approval of the Constitution. The conservative states need to secede now before the dollar and the country collapse!

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  25. KC Culp

    The United States was formed by 13 independent colonies / states. None of the states would have entered the union without the belief that they could secede. The New England states threatened to secede three times in the early 1800s. Three states, Virginia, Rhode Island and New York included the right to secede in their approval of the Constitution. The conservative states need to secede now before the dollar and the country collapse!

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  26. ltmikepowell

    Despite his controversial sides, Abraham Lincoln is one of a few U.S. presidents that actually limited the power of the money changers in Wall Street with his debt-free, independent Greenback currency. This debt-free, independent currency even existed in colonial period of America. Of course, this kind of currency HATED by money controllers in City of London and later Wall Street back at that time.

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  27. stueyguerreiro

    Mujaku…you really are an imbecile that can only talk of violence. If you have any clue about American history you should know that when Texas joined the U.S. from Mexico on 1848 they did under the condition they could secede if they were unhappy with the federal government. This was written into law and still stands today. Texas can legally secede at anytime…that’s why it’s called the lone star state you bloody moron!

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  28. mujaku

    The Southern states were armed rebels. They had no right of secession. Lincoln did what any president would do, crush the rebels with military force. For example, if Texas were to secede, Texas would be destroyed until they completely surrendered. All the perpetrators would be executed without mercy.

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  29. mujaku

    Total crap Paul. Let’s not forget ‘real history’ (not crackpot libertarian history). President Lincoln summed it up privately in stating that secession was not a debatable question, could not be tolerated, and would be treated as treason and rebellion.

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  30. legion lowrey

    NOPE , BUT HE INHERITED THE TYRANNICAL UNIONS WILL AND CONTINUED THAT 1828 TARIFF ACT ANYWAYS AND UNCONSTITUTIONALLY BEGAN TO ATTACK THE SOUTH!

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  31. SemperFidelis0229

    Lincoln had nothing to do with that. He was still at home in Iliinois

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  32. legion lowrey

    TARIFF ACT OF 1828!

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  33. SemperFidelis0229

    Try to make your sentences make sense, please. And provide me with evidence of any of your assumptions.

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  34. legion lowrey

    I DON’T THINK THAT GETTING ON TOP OF ANOTHER MAN IN MAN IN BED AND THEM UMPING AND KISSING HIS BACK IS WAS COMMON BACK THEN. HE WAS A RACIST HE SAID MANY RACIST QUOTES. HE WAS A TYRANT GO LOOK UP THE TARIFF ACT OF 1828!

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  35. SemperFidelis0229

    The evidence that points to him being a homosexual is insufficient. While there is no proving he wasn’t gay, if you look at all of the evidence, you’ll see that it was very common for men to behave that way in the 19th century; a form of companionship that is lost today. Also, he was in love with at least two women in his life. He was neither a racist nor a tyrant. Everybody was a racist back then by today’s standards. He welcomed the South home openly & pushed for no punishment. You lose.

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