Ron Paul: Secession Is an American Principle

Ron Paul: This weekend I got a couple of calls from the media asking me questions about Rick Perry, our governor here in Texas and the statements he made about possible secession. Now, he didn’t call for secession, but he was restating a principle that was long held and at least in the original time of our country, and that is that there was a right to secession.

Actually, after the Civil War, nobody believes there is a so-called right to secession, but it is a very legitimate issue to debate because all of the states that came into the Union before the Civil War believed they have a right to secede and New England in the early part of the 19th century actually considered it, and nobody questioned them about whether they had the right to do it or not.

Since the Civil War, it’s been sort of a dead issue, but he brought it up. It stirred the media and believe me, it really stirred some of the liberal media where they started really screaming about what is going on here. “This is un-American”, I heard one individual say, “This is treasonous to even talk about it.”

Well, they don’t know their history very well because if they think about it, it’s an American tradition. It’s very American to talk about secession. That’s how we came into being. Thirteen colonies seceded from the British and established a new country, so secession is very much an American principle.

What about all the strong endorsements we have given over the past decade or two of those republics that seceded from the Soviet system? We were delighted with this. We never said, “Oh no. Secession is treasonous”.

No. Secession is a good principle. Just think of the benefits that would have come over these last 230-some years if the principle of secession had existed. That means the federal government would always have been restrained, not to overburden the states with too much federalism, too many federal rules and regulations.

But since that was all wiped out with the Civil War, the federal government has grown by leaps and bounds and we have suffered the consequences, and we need to reconsider this. It’s not un-American to think about the possibility of secession. This is something that’s voluntary. We came together voluntarily. A free society means you can dissolve it voluntarily. That was the whole issue was about.

Just remember one of the reasons that Wilson drove us in unnecessarily into World War I. He talked about what we have to give, have every country in the world the benefit of self-determination, a good principle. Of course, I don’t think he really believed that. But self-determination is a good principle. It’s a very American principle, so to me it’s a shame that we can’t discuss this.

You know, it’s interesting that so many of us have been taught for so many years, and as long as I can remember from the first grade on up taking the pledge of allegiance that we have a republic that’s “indivisible” and we have been preached that and preached it. So therefore, there is no contest, no question since the Civil War that we have even the thought that this could happen.

But you know what a lot of people don’t talk about and they really don’t even know about is who wrote the pledge to the flag. The pledge to the flag came from, for instance, Bellamy, an avowed Socialist who wanted to put into concrete in the pledge this principle of being indivisible, and he did it, you know, for the celebration ironically 400 years of the celebration of the landing of Christopher Columbus, so it was in 1892.

I mean, the pledge of allegiance has not been here, you know, all our history. So I think it’s worth of discussion. I think people should discuss this because right now, the American people are sick and tired of it all and I think the time will come when people will consider it much more seriously is when the federal government can no longer deliver. That time will come when the dollar collapses.

No matter what they do and how many promises they have and how many bailouts they have, they can’t do it if the money doesn’t work. So then, the independence of the states will come back and it doesn’t mean that you’ll be un-American to even contemplate what might have to be done once the dollar crashes.

While this video was originally recorded on 4/19/2009, Ron Paul spokeswoman Rachel Mills confirmed earlier today (11/13/2012) that Ron Paul “feels the same now” about secession as he did in this video.

  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=AndrewChan84 AndrewChan84

    There’s only one thing you need to look at. Track record (flip-flop). Not face value. A man who’s been saying the same thing for 20 years, and a man who promise things before start of first term, contradicts them all, and won a second term despite. Trilateral Comssion is not a wacky conspiracy theory. Is an organization with connects the UN with the US.

    Can’t you see, whether is Obama or Romney or Bush, it’s the same shit. They’re all gonna have to take your guns eventually.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=marineforfreedom marineforfreedom

    I know ron paul policies would hurt me immediately, but I would gladly suffer now than have my children and theirs pay unmercifully in the future due to current failed policies. You are a writhing coward. Spineless and without a shred of self-sustaining fortitude.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bodryn bodryn

    Forget it – Ron Paul is history. Obama won the election, despite GOP attempts to engineer election fraud, like Karl Rove in Ohio, eh? There is always wacky talk out there like Alex Jones, etc., talking about the Trilaterals and the Illuminati, but why can’t people just give Obama some slack for once and let us have a little positive economic growth again? I hate that WI turned down funds for high speed rail, which could have benefited MN as well. This is like a Limbug disease or something.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bodryn bodryn

    Obama is my president. One would hope there wouldn’t be a bunch of malcontents trying to throw monkey wrenches into tried and true economic principles meant to kick start the economy and prepare America’s infrastructure for future economic activity.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=marineforfreedom marineforfreedom

    Believe buddy, and hope. Obamaism is your religion.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=marineforfreedom marineforfreedom

    Lol, you are such a tool. I don’t listen to radio or watch tv, but, believe what u want. That’s all people do these days is believe everything, and know nothing.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bodryn bodryn

    I would say you’ve probably been brainwashed by one-sided talk radio, or corporate TV..

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bodryn bodryn

    That’s the problem then: you and others want to stand up AGAINST Obama’s economic policies even though he was re-elected Pres for the next 4 years. People want jobs and a future, but you, doubting Obama’s policies for reasons unknown, want to stop him. So, we the people who want to kick start the economy are given an extra burden. Why not just stop with the sabotaging of the economy? I would like it if, just for once, the GOP would go along with Obama and help rebuild infrastructure.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bodryn bodryn

    Well, if that’s your take on it, then this also is the Matrix and I’m here.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=AndrewChan84 AndrewChan84

    Another floating statement with to facts to back that up. I on the other hand can tell you that Obama is part of the Trilateral Commission and the global elite machinery together with the Federal Reserve that is destroying American sovereignty, via the unconstitutional laws they impose. Personally, I don’t give a damn is Ron Paul is a “libertarian” (which BTW isn’t “liberal”), but whether he is following the Constitution or not.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=MatthewCarpenter Matthew Carpenter

    Sadly! The federal bureaucracy and overall power of the U.S. government are going to continue to grow as things like the Federal Reserve, FDA, EPA, and all those unconstitutional departments expand instead of end.
    Yes, I like the idea of the laissez-faire system. The other option is more steps toward socialism and therefore tyranny.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=MatthewCarpenter Matthew Carpenter

    I don’t think that any states (including Texas, despite what Governor Perry has previously suggested) are about to secede. However, I would wholeheartedly support them if they did because of the message it would send to the White House and Congress of what can happen when the federal government becomes too powerful.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=MatthewCarpenter Matthew Carpenter

    I personally would love it if the U.S. (and the whole world for that matter) had an economic environment in which transactions between private parties were free from tariffs, government subsidies, and enforced monopolies, with only enough government regulations sufficient to protect property rights against theft and aggression. I do not want anyone to try to achieve the laissez-faire system through force, however, because that would completely defeat the point and therefore fail miserably.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bodryn bodryn

    I would say we had a pretty good example of this system during the late 1800’s, when the railroads and Standard Oil ruled the roost. Farmers had a hard time making any money when the railroads could charge any rates they wanted.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bodryn bodryn

    I would say that organizing a libertarian party would be like herding porcupines with your elbow.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bodryn bodryn

    “Libertarianism is the future” – Ayn Rand is not exactly the future. People who believe in libertarianism probably also believe in things like “focus-free” binoculars and one-size-fits-all clothing. I would call it a distraction by the GOP and others who want to triangulate against democracy in this country. IMHO libertarianism is not well thought-through and mostly appeals to college age kids who have just read Atlas Shrugged and haven’t seen the flaws in the logic and/or the plot.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=BitterFudge BitterFudge

    Red states produce tangible wealth food,oil they will be self sufficient & don’t need a big military power except for self defense sense the world would be happy to do business with them,the interim will not be very prosperous but they will develop a very strong economy. Blue states on the other hand are the ones who need an imperialistic military power to enforce wall street financial scams,petrodollar,deficit spending,cultural coercion for Hollywood & exploitation of other nations resources.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=dudeonthasopha dudeonthasopha

    are you aware of how fucked those states are if they seceded? The confederacy, with the lowest amount of industry, the highest debt, the highest amount of welfare recipients, highest amount of highschool drop outs and the worst crime rates, yet the first states to suggest succession. At the end Obama has to decide if they can secede or not, he should just let the bible belt go. watch them fend for themselves haha

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=dudeonthasopha dudeonthasopha

    Libertarianism is the exact opposite of the platform that won this election in a landslide. Freedom is an area of political theory that is heavily debated. You view a laissez-faire market as freedom, but i view it as a system of unruled exploitation of the lower classes. Late stage laissez-faire capitalism ends with the rich who can pimp a system they created and everyone else is poor. I view basic rights and economic consistency as freedom.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=MatthewCarpenter Matthew Carpenter

    I don’t think that I understand your statements. Dr. Paul didn’t win the GOP nomination, and Rombomaney got a lot more votes than Governor Johnson during the general election.

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