Ron Paul: Secession Is an American Principle




Ron Paul: This weekend I got a couple of calls from the media asking me questions about Rick Perry, our governor here in Texas and the statements he made about possible secession. Now, he didn’t call for secession, but he was restating a principle that was long held and at least in the original time of our country, and that is that there was a right to secession.

Actually, after the Civil War, nobody believes there is a so-called right to secession, but it is a very legitimate issue to debate because all of the states that came into the Union before the Civil War believed they have a right to secede and New England in the early part of the 19th century actually considered it, and nobody questioned them about whether they had the right to do it or not.

Since the Civil War, it’s been sort of a dead issue, but he brought it up. It stirred the media and believe me, it really stirred some of the liberal media where they started really screaming about what is going on here. “This is un-American”, I heard one individual say, “This is treasonous to even talk about it.”

Well, they don’t know their history very well because if they think about it, it’s an American tradition. It’s very American to talk about secession. That’s how we came into being. Thirteen colonies seceded from the British and established a new country, so secession is very much an American principle.

What about all the strong endorsements we have given over the past decade or two of those republics that seceded from the Soviet system? We were delighted with this. We never said, “Oh no. Secession is treasonous”.

No. Secession is a good principle. Just think of the benefits that would have come over these last 230-some years if the principle of secession had existed. That means the federal government would always have been restrained, not to overburden the states with too much federalism, too many federal rules and regulations.

But since that was all wiped out with the Civil War, the federal government has grown by leaps and bounds and we have suffered the consequences, and we need to reconsider this. It’s not un-American to think about the possibility of secession. This is something that’s voluntary. We came together voluntarily. A free society means you can dissolve it voluntarily. That was the whole issue was about.

Just remember one of the reasons that Wilson drove us in unnecessarily into World War I. He talked about what we have to give, have every country in the world the benefit of self-determination, a good principle. Of course, I don’t think he really believed that. But self-determination is a good principle. It’s a very American principle, so to me it’s a shame that we can’t discuss this.

You know, it’s interesting that so many of us have been taught for so many years, and as long as I can remember from the first grade on up taking the pledge of allegiance that we have a republic that’s “indivisible” and we have been preached that and preached it. So therefore, there is no contest, no question since the Civil War that we have even the thought that this could happen.

But you know what a lot of people don’t talk about and they really don’t even know about is who wrote the pledge to the flag. The pledge to the flag came from, for instance, Bellamy, an avowed Socialist who wanted to put into concrete in the pledge this principle of being indivisible, and he did it, you know, for the celebration ironically 400 years of the celebration of the landing of Christopher Columbus, so it was in 1892.

I mean, the pledge of allegiance has not been here, you know, all our history. So I think it’s worth of discussion. I think people should discuss this because right now, the American people are sick and tired of it all and I think the time will come when people will consider it much more seriously is when the federal government can no longer deliver. That time will come when the dollar collapses.

No matter what they do and how many promises they have and how many bailouts they have, they can’t do it if the money doesn’t work. So then, the independence of the states will come back and it doesn’t mean that you’ll be un-American to even contemplate what might have to be done once the dollar crashes.

While this video was originally recorded on 4/19/2009, Ron Paul spokeswoman Rachel Mills confirmed earlier today (11/13/2012) that Ron Paul “feels the same now” about secession as he did in this video.



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  1. What might have to be done...More like what might have to be done after 150 years of procrastination.

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  2. All I had to read was "Obama is trying to bring a healthy economy back to the ordinary people in the US" and I just ended there because I laughed so hard. When people are that disconnected from reality, responding to them is futile.

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  3. I feel it...

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  4. No state can ever declare a region as their own. The people of said region are free to do whatever they want.

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  5. Actually currency because there is no scarcity is the future.

    Personal nanomachine factories ftw!

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  6. Is you cant thank god at a college graduation one of the college rules or a law that the government passed?

    You cant say merry christmas in public, thats news to me!

    If your company has a policy where you have to say happy holidays then how is that the governments fault?

    Do you believe that the govt should force companies into having their employees meet a "merry christmas" quota or suffer a penalty? Do you believe that government should penalize people who say happy holidays? Fuck off

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  7. I personally would LOVE to know how many Write Ins Ron Paul Actually got. Would not surprise me in the Numbers were inaccurate, but still would like to "know".

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  8. I personally would LOVE to know how many Write Ins Ron Paul Actually got. Would not surprise me in the Numbers were inaccurate, but still would like to "know".

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  9. How to be American: 1. Eat gigantic portions of junk food. 2. Own a gun and shoot anything that moves. 3. Think you are special when you aren't. 4. Hate Mexicans, blacks and Canadians. 5. Bully other countries. 6. Fly your silly flag over every building. 7. Wear clothes that don't fit. 8. Chew tobacco. 9. Marry your sister. 10. Don't own a passport.

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  10. You obviously know very little about Ron Paul. His policies would ensure a healthy economy WITHOUT blowing up the deficit, while expanding the middle class and basically just getting the government the hell out of our personal lives. Taking money from the middle class and giving it to everyone else gives a healthy economy to who? The wealthy corporations who get bailed out when their greed bankrupts themselves. Who do you think pays for it? The middle class. End welfare for the wealthy.

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  11. how ron paul can still be elected president of the us in january of 2013: Barack Obama has not yet been re-elected president. Yes, the election is over – but remember, a presidential election in America is not by popular vote. We vote for the candidate, but what we are really doing is voting for the electors who will meet on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December. That is when the actual re-election of the president occurs. Is there a way to stop this? Yes, there is. And the best part – this is totally constitutional. The 12th Amendment of the Constitution as well as Article II of the Constitution govern the Electoral College. According to the 12th Amendment, for the Electoral College to be able to select the president, it must have a quorum of two-thirds of the states voting. If enough states refuse to participate, the Electoral College will not have a quorum. If the Electoral College does not have a quorum or otherwise cannot vote or decide, then the responsibility for selecting the president and vice president devolves to the Congress. The House of Representatives selects the president and the Senate selects the vice president.
    Since the Republicans hold a majority in the House, presumably they could vote for Ron paul if people phone then and email them telling them they want them to vote that way , and if they do he would be elected president. Can this work? Sure it can.Democrats have actually set this precedent of refusing to participate to deny Republicans a quorum. They did this in Wisconsin and in Texas. Why can’t we do this with the Electoral College? So how do we do this? Mitt Romney carried 24 states. We need to have conservative activists from all over the nation contact the electors, the Republican Party and the secretary of state in all of these states and tell them not to participate in the Electoral College when it meets on Dec. 17. If we can get 17 of those states (just over one-third) to refuse to participate, the Electoral College will have no quorum. Then, as the Constitution directs, the election goes to the House of Representatives. That is how we can still pull this election out and make Ron paul president in January of 2013.

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  12. You idiot! Then what is "can not thank god at collage graduation's,can not say Mary chriatmass in public, can not have a cross on football helmets of a Christian collage.....and there is much more,Im just to tired to ha a battle of witts against an unarmed/illequipted idiot. Have a good night! Oh yeh...God bless you and may he keep you safe tonight,because the law can't and Obama won't!

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  13. Cont.

    "During the post-war years, through the 50's and 60's, very few had any complaint about FDR's policies which included Keynesian policies."

    Tell that to retiring baby boomers and their worthless 401k.

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  14. "During the post-war years, through the 50's and 60's, very few had any complaint about FDR's policies which included Keynesian policies."

    So you're saying printing more money to cover debts, and usurp the wealth of the common folk by quantitative easing devaluation of currency, is okay? You're saying the Fraction Reserve system (go read up) is okay? What gives them to right to coin funny money like that?

    People didn't complain much during the 60s because the compounding effects isn't yet seen

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  15. Why are you telling me RP is not the president. I'm not an idiot. Are you running out of words to say?

    Since I'm not for any Keynesianism, I won't support GOP or Dems. There's no such things tried and true Keynesianism, and history (including recent history) isn't on your side of the argument. Obama or Romney won't even audit the Fed. They will not uphold American common laws.

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  16. How in the world did people's thinking get so mixed up in just a few decades? During the post-war years, through the 50's and 60's, very few had any complaint about FDR's policies which included Keynesian policies. It is so sick what has happened to people's attitudes these days - I hardly know how to begin.

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  17. Ron Paul is not the president. Obama's plan is based on tried and true Keynesianism, as far as I know. You can use the Gerald Ford plan, i.e., more austerity, or you can follow Truman's plan after WW2. the old pump-priming method. The GOP keeps borrowing and spending, leaving it for democrats to have to raise taxes for it. The GOP uses the "starve the beast" approach. They can indeed bring this country down if they wish - they have all the wealth and power behind them. Treason?

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  18. I will not necessarily stand against every single one of President Obama's economic policies. If he advocates one or more of the following in his principle of action, I will endorse his particular plan to help the economy: (1) cut taxes, (2) slash spending, or (3) reduce the size/scope of the federal government. The problem is that he is a believer in Keynesianism, so he is unlikely to propose a measure that does even one of the three for everyone or everything.

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  19. Speculation. Since you seem to be a subversive, I DO hope they take your gun away.

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  20. And do you understand how economy works to evaluate how Obama's plan can save the economy? Explain to me.

    Ron Paul wants to audit the Fed, stop fiat-currency, stop derivatives bubble and artificial inflation and bailouts. He wants a court trial for these bankers "too big to fail" and file them for bankruptcy. He wants to bring back manufacturing to USA by having lower taxes, instead of piling debt and printing money and starting useless wars.

    Now tell me Obama's plan, and what has he done.

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