375 responses to “Secession: Are We Free to Go?”

  1. RoderickBateman

    "Anti-racists" are NOT forcing ALL black countries to bring in millions of non-black immigrants. That's colonialism. "Anti-racists" are NOT forcing ALL asian countries to mix with non-asians until asians don't exist anymore. That's genocide. ONLY whites are targeted like this. It's genocide. "Anti-racist" is a codeword for anti-white.

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  2. RoderickBateman

    Is genocide only wrong when it happens to non-whites? "Anti-racist" is a codeword for anti-white.

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  3. 1reagan123

    so as long as people are fair to one another it does not matter who is what race. It seems to bother a lot of people who are a minority because they are simply not treated like the rest of the people and my question to you is why does it matter? If one "race" becomes non existent due to there choices and every one treats each other fairly

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  4. 1reagan123

    The way i see it is in the end we are all people if a certan "race" becomes non existent because they decided to reproduce with other races is it really a big deal? does it matter if "whites" dont exist anymore? or for that matter any other race.. people are people now im not saying that whites are going to become non existent but the only thing i worry about is the attitude towards other people as in most cases minority are not treated as fair as they should be and its a shame.

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  5. Surfisher

    Ron Paul, freed of the encumbrance of running for office, IS NOW DEVOTING HIS TIME to Educate the People (and especially the young generation that will be our Future in a few years) that the Rights of the Individual, the US Citizen, are NEVER to be transgressed upon by any Unconstitutional "Laws, Rules and Regulations" that may be enacted by ANYONE in Office!

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  6. dragonherderx

    Also to add in here most of these people spewing NDAA and other things need to realize that advisors for the president have told him he needs to VETO these things as bad things that should not be passed because of privacy concerns and feeling they are too far reaching. Freaking out without realizing how government and politics even work is silly just because one branch of the government votes with something doesn't mean it succeeds. We need a government that works together instead of what we got

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  7. dragonherderx

    These states talking about seceding make me laugh a bit honestly... Where are the states going to get money? Are the citizens suddenly going to pay mass amounts of taxes when most of these states ( a good deal are red states) that have relied heavily on money from the federal government have no money other than some state taxes and can barely afford to keep anyone inside their state employed... yeah good luck with all that. Secession does not and will not work in the modern world at all.

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    1. John

      They'll certainly have to cut their budgets immensely. The pain will be temporary, and they'll be better for it.

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  8. RoderickBateman

    There are many different kinds of force. Not all force happens at a point of a gun. The law is an example of force. It is illegal for anything to be exclusively white. It is not illegal for anything to be excusively anything else. Such a law results in white people becoming exterminated. Otherwise known as genocide. "Anti-racist" is a codeword for anti-white.

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  9. OnlyAPersonHere

    I think your wrong, because I'm a Christian anarchist, who believes in voluntary governance, and the non-aggression principle, property-rights, and I just can't agree with you. : D

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  10. Surfisher

    off topic:

    Ben Swann Exposes Barack Husein Obama on his NDAA lies!

    If you want to save our Freedoms --- SPREAD THIS 3 minute video LIKE WILDFIRE!

    Our wannabe Lil' Dictator (BHO) lies on all levels. And when he starts stuttering you know a Big Lie is about to follow (while stuttering his small brain is trying to formulate a reply that may not be noticed as untruth).
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    #1 Lie --- Barack Hussein said he would Veto the NDAA (if passed). What a nice TRAP he laid for all these dunces that thought they could display "Patriotism" on the Floor (since then they could say: We voted for it, but the Prez Vetoed it).

    Then does the COMPLETELY OPPOSITE and signs this pernicious Unconstitutional document into Law on New Year's Eve, when no-one is watching!

    When a Judge finds it, at a much later date, Unconstitutional, he, Barack Hussein, again breaks his word and sics his lawyers to overturn it in an Appellate Court (by some crony Judge) in a few days after the decision!

    So, we still have this pernicious and unconstitutional Law --- courtesy of Barack Hussein --- that allows American Citizens to be illegally whisked away ON SUSPICION ONLY without DUE COURSE OF LAW. And if they, such US Citizens, are never heard of again, it is because Barack Hussein has usurped the Powers of the Courts, since they are to be denied legal representation!

    And the list of the TRANSGRESSIONS AGAINST ALL AMERICANS by this Little Man, that occupies our White House, KEEPS GROWING!

    Here is proof of Barack Hussein's PERFIDY!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Kf_0mEoYU

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  11. Andrew Rusher

    Anarchy's a sham, cause no matter what other people will group together which is a form of government, and anarchists would form gangs to defend themselves so that would be small government...government is good, just we need to have freedoms. Which life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness can be given to all..its possible just mentally people don't want to let others have it..

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  12. 1reagan123

    im just saying that nothing can force people to reproduce with other races it is the peoples choice. as if "white" does become non existent it is not the fault of anyone nor is it a "problem" as long as people are being treated fair that is really all that matters at least to me. now forcing "only white" country's to open borders is as you say or at least what i get from it is that people are trying to get rid of white people? i understand the problem with it but it is the choice of the people

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  13. RoderickBateman

    If this was done to non-white countries, it would be called genocide. Are you suggesting we genocide everyone non-white now? Or are you just trying to use a hypothetical scenerio to push white genocide. "Anti-racist" is a codeword for anti-white.

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  14. aurelbarber

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  15. DooUC

    Ok, I take back "treason". Your secession ideals may well inevitably come about once the American Empire bankrupts itself, but not until then.

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  16. David Eggers

    As long as our country can do better, no one should be satisfied with how we are. Being 10,000x better than the most brutal dictatorships in history isn't good enough.

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  17. Viblicent

    wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll#Other_deadly_events

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  18. FreedomsReigning

    "Do you support secession?"

    No, because the people have gotten what they want, a world of injustice, slavery, and plunder. Secession won't change that.

    "What if "within Anarchy" I had to vie for customers?"

    I, or somebody else, would offer slaves and plunder, because there's value in it, and that's what people want.

    Slave labor is "the win" in a free market. Justice isn't what wins in a free market, and the first people I'd offer as slaves are the Anarchists who destroyed my country.

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  19. FreedomsReigning

    You're an Anarchist and Anarchists are WORTHLESS to liberty, so please, stop calling yourself a Libertarian. You don't know how to defend Liberty or what it is that threatens a persons Liberty.

    I know Anarchists need to keep trying to relabel themselves, but next time, leave out the part about Liberty, and try it without the double think. Contrary to what Anarchists may think people aren't just stupid sheep. They'll recognize that you're a phony, a Judas Goat, and a liar.

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  20. EgadsNo

    Operation Ajax, Operation Cyclone, Gulf of Tonkin, USS Liberty, arming and training Al Qaida in Libya to kill Gaddafi, killing a million Iraqis including 50,000 children over lies. Locking up whistles blowers, propping up dictatorships and warlords across the planet. FDA food czar is a Monsanto VP, toxic waste being put in our drinking water, billions of dollars spent on global dimming causing draughts, forest fires, floods and rampant hurricanes. Giving banks 16.1 trillion to private banks.

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  21. jsquad31

    This might help you guys out:
    /watch?v=9J2Kh9P-m7I

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  22. jscott2700

    Since Anarchy is simply defined as absence of government or rulers, you're really flying off the rails here.
    And yes, I am an Austro-Libertarian-Anarcho-Capitalist and a Christian. Fancy that!

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  23. Sinisterene

    Do you support secession?

    If so, what's the (bottom) limit?

    Would it be one individual? What if stateless governments had to vie for customers by offering the best defense/mediation/insurance/etc services? Wouldn't that be a state of "anarchy"?

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  24. Sinisterene

    RIght now I agree with you wholeheartedly

    I just wouldn't judge the desire to secede as "treason", after all, even in the fucked up world we live in, it is at least comforting to have ideals, no matter how tough and insane the opposition is

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  25. FreedomsReigning

    "you can't seriously believe that human nature is violence... truly it is love."

    A humans nature is to covet, and the question is will they choose violence to take what they covet, and when they do, will you serve justice and meet them with force to defend liberty?

    Living in Anarchist Lala Land isn't a solution. Justice is the solution, and justice is not what wins in a free market. A free market of violence will produce what covetous people want; slaves and plunder.

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  26. FreedomsReigning

    "you can't seriously believe that human nature is violence... truly it is love."

    A humans nature is to covet, and the question is will they choose violence to take what they covet, and when they do, will you serve justice and meet them with force to defend liberty?

    Living in Anarchist Lala Land isn't a solution. Justice is the solution, and justice is not what wins in a free market. A free market of violence will produce what covetous people want; slaves and plunder.

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  27. FreedomsReigning

    "Are not the Amish anarchists?"

    "Anarchist": 1.a person who advocates or believes in anarchy or anarchism.
    2.a person who seeks to overturn by violence all constituted forms and institutions of society and government, with no purpose of establishing any other system of order in the place of that destroyed.
    3.a person who promotes disorder or excites revolt against any established rule, law, or custom.

    Nope. An Anarchist is NOTHING like the Amish. Anarchists want a free market of violence.

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  28. FreedomsReigning

    "Are not the Amish anarchists?"

    "Anarchist": 1.a person who advocates or believes in anarchy or anarchism.
    2.a person who seeks to overturn by violence all constituted forms and institutions of society and government, with no purpose of establishing any other system of order in the place of that destroyed.
    3.a person who promotes disorder or excites revolt against any established rule, law, or custom.

    Nope. An Anarchist is NOTHING like the Amish. Anarchists want a free market of violence.

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  29. FreedomsReigning

    If you don't like being called an Anarchist, stop using the word?

    I don't care if they call themselves Anarcho-Capitalists, Syndicalists or GoatSexalists.. Get the F away from me and the Libertarian party. Comparing an Anarchist to the Amish is the ultimate insult to the Amish people. Anarchists are Godless foul mouthed libertines, not Libertarians and NOTHING like the Amish.

    Go start the Anarchist party and see how that goes for ya.

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  30. David Eggers

    I know a woman who told a man where to get some cocaine. The man was an undercover cop. She spent 10 years in jail for drug trafficking, and nothing good has come out of her or her children's lives. I also know a guy who spent 6 months in jail in Florida over $40 worth of marijuana. Oppressive societies don't always oppress everyone, they just create different classes of people. Most people in fascist Italy or the Soviet Union weren't brutally beaten or sent off to die.

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  31. kefkapalazzo1

    how is our government oppressive?

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  32. dptdgclick5132

    Of course the people have a right to secede. No doubt. Just not for silly reasons as losing a general election where the majority voted for a certain president.

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  33. jscott2700

    And so the states within the U.S. are not conquered nations? D.C. isn't an authoritarian superstate?

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  34. Surfisher

    off topic --- but a must see!

    Knowing his past can only show what his future path will be:
    Barack Hussein Obama EXPOSED!

    Spread this 7 minute that’s gone viral!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_2s4tob5U8&feature=related

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  35. DooUC

    The Soviet Union is not akin to The United States. It was an authoritarian Superstate of conquered Nations. One of the reasons there was peaceful secession was because the military chiefs no longer supported the political status quo and instead jockeyed for power themselves in the new landscape. That is not the case in America. Here the military chiefs WILL shoot those rose-tinted glasses off your nose if you try to secede.

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