Is all the recent talk of secession mere sour grapes over the election, or perhaps something deeper? Currently there are active petitions in support of secession for all 50 states, with Texas taking the lead in number of signatures. Texas has well over the number of signatures needed to generate a response from the administration, and while I wouldn’t hold my breath on Texas actually seceding, I believe these petitions raise a lot of worthwhile questions about the nature of our union.
Is it treasonous to want to secede from the United States? Many think the question of secession was settled by our Civil War. On the contrary; the principles of self-governance and voluntary association are at the core of our founding. Clearly Thomas Jefferson believed secession was proper, albeit as a last resort. Writing to William Giles in 1825, he concluded that states:
“should separate from our companions only when the sole alternatives left, are the dissolution of our Union with them, or submission to a government without limitation of powers.”
Keep in mind that the first and third paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence expressly contemplate the dissolution of a political union when the underlying government becomes tyrannical.
Do we have a “government without limitation of powers” yet? The Federal government kept the Union together through violence and force in the Civil War, but did might really make right?
Secession is a deeply American principle. This country was born through secession. Some felt it was treasonous to secede from England, but those “traitors” became our country’s greatest patriots.
There is nothing treasonous or unpatriotic about wanting a federal government that is more responsive to the people it represents. That is what our Revolutionary War was all about and today our own federal government is vastly overstepping its constitutional bounds with no signs of reform. In fact, the recent election only further entrenched the status quo. If the possibility of secession is completely off the table there is nothing to stop the federal government from continuing to encroach on our liberties and no recourse for those who are sick and tired of it.
Consider the ballot measures that passed in Colorado and Washington state regarding marijuana laws. The people in those states have clearly indicated that they are ready to try something different where drug policy is concerned, yet they will still face a tremendous threat from the federal government. In California, the Feds have been arresting peaceful medical marijuana users and raiding dispensaries that state and local governments have sanctioned. This shouldn’t happen in a free country.
It remains to be seen what will happen in states that are refusing to comply with the deeply unpopular mandates of Obamacare by not setting up healthcare exchanges. It appears the Federal government will not respect those decisions either.
In a free country, governments derive their power from the consent of the governed. When the people have very clearly withdrawn their consent for a law, the discussion should be over. If the Feds refuse to accept that and continue to run roughshod over the people, at what point do we acknowledge that that is not freedom anymore? At what point should the people dissolve the political bands which have connected them with an increasingly tyrannical and oppressive federal government? And if people or states are not free to leave the United States as a last resort, can they really think of themselves as free?
If a people cannot secede from an oppressive government, they cannot truly be considered free.
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Were you born a dumbass fuckin’ dickhead, or have you been working at it ever since?
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And it has been official since 1862 , dumbass!
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You seem to know a lot of dope fiends, don’t ya?
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wRONg Paul is a loathsome, offensive, nasty, foul, disgusting, unpleasant, revolting, obscene, sickening, vile, horrid, repellent, repulsive, objectionable, disagreeable, nauseating, odious, hateful, repugnant, reprehensible, abominable, insufferable execrable, detestable, hateable, dislikable, fucking JACKASS! Lmfao!
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Okay, you’re free to go, as long as you have never pledged allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Even if you are too ignorant to know what the word “indivisible” means, a pledge is a pledge, and you can’t release yourself from it.
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I don’t see how you equate “a lot” or “many” to “all” and then claim that my statement was “illogical”.
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it is official you can’t secede from the traitorous government are you guys doing anything about it? A protest maybe? something…
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it is official you can’t secede from the traitorous government are you guys doing anything about it? A protest maybe? something…
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Ron Paul is 100% right in everything.
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You called affirmative action “racist.” The very word racist is anti-white. You need to call it what it is. If something is anti-white, call it anti-white, anti-black, call it anti-black…
“Anti-racists” claim to target “racists” but all they ever do is attack white people. Once more they are only ever satisfied there’s no “racism” when there’s NO white people. The policies these anti-whites push is genocide for white children. “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.
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When did I say Affirmative Action isn’t anti-white? It is.
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You are free to go. You are not free to take a state with you.
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P.S. why should I traid one communist ditator for another.. i’d just as soon leave the US than fight for lazy fat cowards, who cry and fuss worse than my two toddlers at home!
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Bye.
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you all make me want to throw-up! the main theme of this whole thing has to do with tyrony, and revolutionaries and all you can think about and talk about is racism! man if we true’lly are under a dictatorship and this is how the majority respond than you all really do deserve to be all slaves to the system of the MATRIX of the US!
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No. Affirmative action is anti-white. “Racist” is a word used by anti-whites to shut white people up. As well, what does “supremacy” have to do with stopping genocide? Calling whites “supremacists” is like calling jews “supremacists” when the’yre in the concentration camps. It’s genocide. “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.
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Of course not. Affirmative Action is racist, and if people want to create white pride groups, they can. Forced integration is also a problem.
I’m not racist, as I do not believe that any race is supreme over any other. Emphasis on the word “any”.
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Are you anti-white? Well that depends if you would let white kids have a home. I think you’re starting to get it though. The people who are doing these things always call themselves “anti-racist” but what they are is anti-white. “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.
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Are you anti-white? Well that depends if you would let white kids have a home. I think you’re starting to get it though. The people who are doing these things always call themselves “anti-racist” but what they are is anti-white. “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.
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OK. But wait, I don’t believe in racial supremacy for any race, white, black, Asian, etc. Does that mean I’m anti-white?
Use the correct terms. You have a good point, but “anti-racist” isn’t the correct word. “Forced integrationist”, or “Affirmative Action Bigot” is a more correct term.
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