Secession: Are We Free to Go?

Is all the recent talk of secession mere sour grapes over the election, or perhaps something deeper?   Currently there are active petitions in support of secession for all 50 states, with Texas taking the lead in number of signatures.  Texas has well over the number of signatures needed to generate a response from the administration, and while I wouldn’t hold my breath on Texas actually seceding, I believe these petitions raise a lot of worthwhile questions about the nature of our union.

Is it treasonous to want to secede from the United States?  Many think the question of secession was settled by our Civil War.  On the contrary; the principles of self-governance and voluntary association are at the core of our founding.  Clearly Thomas Jefferson believed secession was proper, albeit as a last resort. Writing to William Giles in 1825, he concluded that states:

“should separate from our companions only when the sole alternatives left, are the dissolution of our Union with them, or submission to a government without limitation of powers.”

Keep in mind that the first and third paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence expressly contemplate the dissolution of a political union when the underlying government becomes tyrannical.

Do we have a “government without limitation of powers” yet?  The Federal government kept the Union together through violence and force in the Civil War, but did might really make right?

Secession is a deeply American principle.  This country was born through secession.  Some felt it was treasonous to secede from England, but those “traitors” became our country’s greatest patriots.

There is nothing treasonous or unpatriotic about wanting a federal government that is more responsive to the people it represents.  That is what our Revolutionary War was all about and today our own federal government is vastly overstepping its constitutional bounds with no signs of reform.  In fact, the recent election only further entrenched the status quo.  If the possibility of secession is completely off the table there is nothing to stop the federal government from continuing to encroach on our liberties and no recourse for those who are sick and tired of it.

Consider the ballot measures that passed in Colorado and Washington state regarding marijuana laws.  The people in those states have clearly indicated that they are ready to try something different where drug policy is concerned, yet they will still face a tremendous threat from the federal government.  In California, the Feds have been arresting peaceful medical marijuana users and raiding dispensaries that state and local governments have sanctioned. This shouldn’t happen in a free country.

It remains to be seen what will happen in states that are refusing to comply with the deeply unpopular mandates of Obamacare by not setting up healthcare exchanges.  It appears the Federal government will not respect those decisions either.

In a free country, governments derive their power from the consent of the governed. When the people have very clearly withdrawn their consent for a law, the discussion should be over.  If the Feds refuse to accept that and continue to run roughshod over the people, at what point do we acknowledge that that is not freedom anymore?  At what point should the people dissolve the political bands which have connected them with an increasingly tyrannical and oppressive federal government?  And if people or states are not free to leave the United States as a last resort, can they really think of themselves as free?

If a people cannot secede from an oppressive government, they cannot truly be considered free.


  • the church was in fear.This compromise between Christian and paganism resulted in the development of man of sin.foretold by Paul second letter/ testosterone II chapter 2 verses 3 and 4.The roman emperor Constantine in the early part of the 4th century cause great re-joying in a world clok with a form of righteousness,walk into the church, Paganism while appear to be out law became the law of the land.

  • The blood of Christian is seed. Ideologue were lead to receive a part of the Christian faith while they rejected other essential truth.they profess to accept Jesus has the son of god and to believe in his dead and rise,but they had no conviction of sin and felt no need of repentance or a change of heart. with some conses-ion on they part .they propose that Christan shall make conses-ion. that all might unit on a platform of believe in Christ.

  • which if we were in-responsible we would contract to receive right from that federal democracy and do in return give up our freedom/liberty.

  • and cause them to topple off they thorn. It also give man a change to proof once and for all, can man rule him self or not.if he could, that will be the new order.If he could`t, they build the tools in the constitution to allow them to take it away from us.and those tools are,The creation of the federal democracy with in the border of Washington D.C. and the right to contract,

  • In the history of the world.there never been a people who were truly free or who truly rule them self until the United states of America was created has a Republic by which we rule our self by sending elected representative to the state house office.They also give us every tools by which we will destroy our self,if we were`t capable of doing it.The U.S and france were create to bring about governments which would function has the antisis to the kings and queens of the world,

  • 1795. Among John Jay’s many accomplishments — president of Congress in 1778, minister to Spain, one of three Americans who negotiated the Paris Peace Treaty, an author of The Federalist and the first chief justice of the Supreme Court — none was more important than his negotiation of of the Treaty with Great Britain in 1794.

  • The Treaty eliminated British control of western posts within two years, established America’s claim for damages from British ship seizures, and provided America a limited right to trade in the West Indies. Although Jay’s Treaty provoked a storm of controversy (Jay was burned in effigy by mobs of outraged Americans), President Washington pressed for ratification. The treaty passed the Senate in June,

  • passed navigation laws that were potentially damaging to Great Britain. It was apparent that a commercial war between the two countries would undermine the health of the American economy. The American statesman John Jay, pressed into service as special envoy, went to England to negotiate disagreements between the two governments. On November 19, 1794 Jay’s Treaty was signed, averting the threat of war.w w w .

  • The Jay Treaty 1794 Treaty of Amity Commerce and Navigation Although the Treaty of Paris (1783) ended the American War for Independence, the years following saw relations between America and England deteriorate precipitously. England refused to evacuate the frontier forts in the Northwest Territory; in addition, she seized American ships, forcing American sailors to serve in England’s war against France. The United States, for her part,

  • the symbol was broth together/cross by the communist. It use to be a upside down sickle sir-mouthed by the cross.The sickle and the cross represent Saturn (the planet).the hammer/axe mean the accent world (it represent Thor) the ability for the gods to smash down and build-up with power.the planet Saturn has influence both government and religion.Saturn is connected to Nazi philosophy,Nazi religious,communist and fascism philosophy.

  • he church of the first four centuries believe in reincarnation proof by the writing of saint Augustine.Justina and Theodora remove the writing of saint Augustine because they kill 600,000 people in the Colosseum for not being christian.they got worries about they next lifetime(reincarnation).The soviet union national coat-of-army had a sun rising over the earth with a hammer and sickle and the red star.the sickle and the hammer were separate symbol for 1000s of yrs.

  • When Government exists, Liberty is just the fuel for communist, and freedom is the fuel for slavery. Banker law:In 1975, In New york city a principal/rule was founded. If there is a conflict between well been of financial institution and the well been of the people.You choose the well been of the financial institution and not the well been of the people.

  • .He stated his goal was to solve the christian problem by the public school system.He also introduce the “progressive education” into the school system. There are many good and godly teachers in the public schools.For the past 45 yrs America`s children have been taught rewritten history and…””…Fact that life on Earth has evolved…” The DNA code + gene destruction + natural selection proof Darwinism, scientifically impossible.

  • By 1962 – The Supreme Court cited the “separation” to Outlaw prayer in public schools.(engel v. vitale 370 U.S. 421)In 1963 – Biblical Creation (the foundation for America`s Freedom) was remove/replace in public schools with Darwinian Evolution (the foundation for secular Humanism/Humanist (Man becoming god)). John dewey 1859-1952(athiest) – 1st president of American humanist Association-Signer of the original Humanist Manifesto(founded upon evolution).

  • Langdell introduce Case-law-study,which mean laws are not base on god but that law evolve case-by-case.In 1947 – The Supreme Court found a “separation of church and state” in the First amendment.Court upheld a state law allowing federal funding of religious schools.(Everson v. Board of Education,330 U.S. 1)

  • “Blessed is the nation whose god is the LORD… Psalm 33:22 Noah Webster(american dictionary) stated, Our continue success is depend upon the educating the youth of america in the principal of the christian religion.1859 – origin of the species by Charles Darwin.Charles Eliot a Harvard president 1869-1909 andChristopher Langdell dean of Harvard law 1870-1895 appointed by Charles Eliot.These two individual had one thing in common and that was the teaching of Darwin law.

  • The constitution apply to the people and the people government(states). If you can under stand the money master are privately own and govern over the American people,until they(American)can form a government of they own by state down to counties ONLY (governing).Once the state Representative become a member of Washington DC(congress) then the people have contract to give up they liberties in return for protection and Living standards by “legal tender”.

  • All of the codes, statues of the USA laws are a WiLL from the Masters to they slaves(servants).A WiLL is define has “An express command used in a dis-positive nature”.When a individual is charge with a crime and jail,it is because they were against the WiLL of the Masters(the ones who makes the laws), and not because they perish another person.

  • CITIZEN – is someone who looks for work(employee),they hope to gets payed(not fired) and live in government permitted property with limited expenses due to taxation,with prays of welfare=living-well-in-fear(po­lice state). AMERICAN – is someone who Create work(self-employed/non cooperation),Reap the Rewards(sales/gifts),and Live a Quality Life(LIBERTY) while Improve the quality of live to others by choice not voting rights. .

  • I don’t mind if people want to secede, that’s just fine and dandy, here is what pisses me off, that the catalyst apparently was Obama winning, as if Romney winning would of been some sort of leap forward for liberty. This is the reason I don’t take this seriously and find their crocodile tears marketing rather than any sort of real expression. If indeed they would of also signed up to secede when Romney won then why didn’t they do this before the election, I don’t buy it.