Should Ron Paul Run for President in 2016?
I’m so pissed at Paul, 2012 was so screwed up, no one wanted to volt for any one, the cure was worst then the disease , I’m a moderate and I wanted to volt for Paul, damn it Paul why didn’t you run as an independent you would have won.
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Maybe as gavorner he can lead a seccesion!
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If the “No” votes to polls like this reach fifteen percent
then there may be enough people awake to take back this country.
Understanding the the voting system is irreversibly rigged
is part of the waking up process. Wake up.
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The Republican party as is will never nominate people like Ron Paul or Rand Paul. There are however party members who would stand behind them.
I begin to think that Libertarian leaning Republicans should fraction and start a new party, while attracting conservative minded independents and possibly some Democrats. This could be done by Rand or similar individuals. And this new party should not be named Libertarian – the voters have already been led to associate the name with anarchy (scary things,) fanatic beliefs (no compromises on important issues,) or utopian views (some people view liberty and freedom as utopia.)
If not, Libertarians should have the balls to work on Nullification or Secession by education people, and why not – moving to NH and organizing better.
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Faced with a MANDATORY Response to the Secession Petitions — two top chickens from the White House have flown the coop — Barack Hussein left for Asia, and Hiltlery Clinton is Israel bound!
These two may run, but won’t be able to escape how their underlings respond!
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Right on when it gets hot the chickens flee!! Sanders ran on the independent and he is a known Socialist?? Ron Paul has every thing i stand for ,why give away the store to foreign countries like we have been doing for 50 years? This guy Obama is a Socialist and in my mind not a American B/C !! The fed reserve has to go , Ron was right big banks own us audit did not happen for obvious reasons on both sides of the isles?? The constitution is just a piece of paper under this administration with no value?? Hard to believe people put this monster for 4 more years is it people are not educated or just want the free stuff? I live in California the Democrat state where Socialism is in place with these environmentalist & Hollywood own the people?? Ron Paul & son in my opinion should be on the Constitution ticket in 2016??
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He should run, if the american virtues of the founding fathers are to survive in today’s society.
I’m not even from the States, but a strong international Ron Paul supporter.
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R.P. RUN IN 2016? IT’S THAT a JOKE? There will not ben an election by 2016, because we’ll be a UN territory by then! No thanks, he wasn’t 100% in it for 2012, I don’t think we need the distraction if we last to 2016.
I’m still crying for our country, may she RIP AND MAY WE SURVIVE whatever is about to rise from the ashes.
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Out of these choices, I had to say YES.
However, I really think Ron Paul should pass the torch to somebody else who has his same resolve and commitment to liberty and who will not sell out to the establishment.
So my real answer is NO, pass the torch to somebody else, but not Rand.
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What would really be incredible is if the Republican candidates from 2012 would all get behind one charismatic young candidate and form his “election cabinet.”
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Ron Paul: You’re Not FREE if you Can’t Secede from an Oppressive Government
“In a free country, governments derive their power from the consent of the governed. When the people have very clearly withdrawn their consent for a law, the discussion should be over. If the Feds refuse to accept that and continue to run roughshod over the people, at what point do we acknowledge that that is not freedom anymore? At what point should the people dissolve the political bands which have connected them with an increasingly tyrannical and oppressive federal government? And if people or states are not free to leave the United States as a last resort, can they really think of themselves as free?”
Spread this 4 minute message like wildfire!
The District of Columbia (Washington, DC) — where the White House and all Federal Governmental Agencies reside — have passed the point by their anti-American-anti-Constitution ACTIVITIES that they have FORFEITED THE RIGHT to be called the USA. De facto, THEY have already SECEDED from the Union by constitutional default, and any State that wants to secede from THEM is a State that wants to RETURN BACK to the original CONSTITUTIONAL USA!
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We are passing the rubicon for what qualifies as a peaceful transition of power. People now want to secede. Feds are expanding their control grid. I am utterly lost on how you think that putting the energy into running Ron Paul will have any success. America is Lost. The media control over the hearts and minds of people is choking creativity and free thinking out of Americans. We no longer value liberty and freedom… we value iPhones, and government welfare checks… food stamps, and illegal wars.
Rand Paul is an enigma. His endorsement of Romney tasted like battery acid to me. I will not forget it when the time comes to consider him as a candidate for President… if that time ever comes. I do not think that the GOP will even allow it.
Ron Paul has done a fine job… and his only purpose may have been to set the embers of liberty into the minds of men, so that when tyranny has it’s full hold on us all, that men of valor might yet take a stand, and throw tyrants down, and smite them.
Until then, I suggest that Ron Paul enjoy his children. he has done enough already, and it is up to the rest of us to don the mantle of liberty, and carry it forth.
Sic Sempre Tyranis!
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To Jeff’s posting November 20, 2012 at 8:17 am –
I could not have expressed it any more cogently or persuasively. Thank you for your comments. If you are not familiar with Chris Duane and his excellent Youtube series, The Greatest Truth Never Told, [http://www.youtube.com/user/TruthNeverTold/videos?view=0] his overriding message is closely aligned with Dr. Paul’s sentiments (if I may be permitted to paraphrase):
Don’t seek to change the world; rather change your own consciousness, values and allegiances. Pursue and exalt personal, responsible liberty and freedom. Reject the false left/right paradigm that passes for our political system and walk away, thereby depriving it of its power over you. Choose love or fear. Forge and follow your own path rather than the herd.
At the Thanksgiving table, I will summon a blessing for all good, simple people everywhere, my brethren, in whom passions for reason, liberty and freedom over collectivist and statist forces and policies burn brightly and true. Nothing can stop an idea whose time has come. I pray this is that idea!
We had two candidates that were selected by election fraud that both the DNC and the RNC were behind, not two candidates that were chosen by the people.
The 2008 Democratic Nominating Committee (DNC) document did not include language stating that Obama was qualified to be a candidate. The 2008 Republican Nominating Committee (RNC) document did, as is normal. This shows that the DNC knew that Obama was not qualified, or why change the form?
We all know what fraud was done in selecting the GOP presidential election in 2012 – multiple vids and witnesses yet no arrests, prosecutions done. Ron Paul and Andrew Napolitano would have been the 2012 President and Vice President except “We the People” accepted the election fraud instead of demanding TRUTH, and a RE VOTE. Then arrests and PROSECUTIONS for EVERYONE at EVERY level who committed election fraud.
Worse, we allowed them to not let our overseas military vote! the Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment Act supposedly making it easier for military personnel based overseas to vote. Yet, The Defense Department’s Inspector General reported that the Pentagon was not complying this year with the Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment Act. SCYTL was contracted to provide secure online ballot delivery for overseas military and civilian voters for the 2012 presidential election.
Election Fraud is against state laws, and when it includes a federal election is a federal offense also.
I put a petition up that needs signatures: We Can Immediately Fire and Replace Any Constitutional Oath Taker That Doesn’t Keep the Legally Binding Oath as Required
US Constitution is Supreme Law. The first law statute of the USA was Statute 1, Chapt 1: an act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths, which established the oath required by civil and military officials to support the Constitution. The wording of the Presidential Oath – Constitution, Article II, Section 1, Clause 8. The Oath requirement for all Fed and State Civil officers – Art VI, Sect 1, Clause 4. The Oath is binding for life.
Solemn: “Legally binding, Common legal phrase indicating that an agreement has been consciously made, and certain actions are now either required or prohibited”, “The other requirement for an agreement or contract to be considered legally binding is consideration – both parties must knowingly understand what they are agreeing to”. http://wh.gov/XB5b
Please sign. Please raise h-ll over election fraud in your state, demand arrests and prosecutions – plus a RE VOTE that is hand written, hand counted IN FRONT of witnesses and on video every time there is a count as is required by our legitimate government.
would you mind if I copied and put on facebook
I love Ron and all the hard work he has done but I think he will be seen as too old for the job in 2016.
I was sad to see him surrender some of his Libertarian principals to placate the Republican hard core. I think that he might have done better had he not let himself get drawn into their extreme positions.
Sadly one has to be an extremist to get past the primary.
Ron I’ve voted for you every time you have run and argued you to anyone and everyone but I believe that the time has come. America isn’t going to listen to reason or look at history beyond yesterday.
Rand; I hope you will run if you stick to your principals and don’t let the extremists tell you what to say I will be one of the millions voting for you.
But all medical decisions, including abortion should be left to patients and doctors without government involvement.
the ptb control who is elected in this country! if you don’t understand this then you never will. ron pauls votes were taken from him, the media is part of it,and the 2 party system! its owned like you own your car, and only driven by whom they choose!
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2016 is too late,he needs to run now as president of texas,murder and rape and torture is being done by israel to the innocent people and america is condoning it,so unless big changes happen soon america will become internationally like israel a terrorist state and in some ways it already is.
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They flounder about on TV,
selling Presidential Goods.
Flimsy-wares sold by a couple of whores,
stumbling in from the fascist woods.
Obama & Mitt continue to charm,
a lost, New World audience.
Freedom and Liberty choking to death,
as The System builds the fence.
The claims of all these idiots,
themselves dense as posts.
Leaves one to long for Ron Paul,
among these sad, Presidential Ghosts
Webster Groves-The Life of an Insane Family
Ron Paul needs to be let go. The man deserves to retire and be with his family. He has done so much for the movement, and set liberty on the table for us to win on principles over the next few years. Think about it, Ron Paul. never set his goals at President, but Instead he wanted to further the message. Let him go!!!
Though Paul has all the thinking that we need, it is sad that we have no one else that can see the logic necessary in selecting a potential leader. It’s clear that we have a broken country. On one hand we have an enormous number of people who are overly aggressive toward other countries. And we have another large number of our people who do not have the knowledge to make the kinds of rationale decisions necessary for selecting a qualified individual. This means we are in a position for a candidate with an outgoing personality capable of getting elected, but then unable to govern in a rational manner. The only answer that I can see is educating our population well enough so they are capable of applying rational thinking to decision making, and that can take more time than we have to fix things.
I said that I thought Ron Paul should not run for President in 2016. I am a Ron Paul fan and I believe he is correct in so many ways but it does not seem to be what Americans are looking for as a majority. It is a sad sign that this country is in the process of undergoing change that is in the wrong direction. That the majority of the people want what is easiest for themselves, not what is right for the country as a whole.
I do not believe that most people today see the connection between true liberty and strength and making sacrifice for what is right over what is wrong. Until the majority does see this leaders like Ron Paul will have no merit nor chance to truly lead this country back to the truth and being strong again. We as a country will have to face the consequences for it decisions. It is likely we will lose our freedom before we realize what it worth. But then will the people have the courage to fight for what is right and for their freedom like our fore fathers did in this country?
I see the convection in the Ron Paul’s followers, but not in the majority of the population. Perhaps after severe consequences and situations some will find or regain their beliefs in truth and freedom. The majority sees Ron Paul followers as fanatics and hopeless thinkers. They are the seed of hope for the future of this country.
I think Ron Paul should team up with Gary Johnson.
They can hash out who will be Vice President, but i think together they are both electable, and together they can get this country where needs to be.
For the people, by the people.
Buy the people, Own the people!
What It Will Take
Liberty struggles mightily,
in the deep end of the pool.
Evil War Maker’s snicker,
the evil War Monger’s drool.
Invasion here, Depression there,
the cash just keeps rolling in.
Leaders play all the fixed games,
a casino of Constitutional Sin.
They think most Yanks to be,
a mob of brainless tools.
Demographics to dissect,
emotional, manipulated fools.
Liberty and freedom,
earned over the harsh, long haul.
Takes a thoughtful vote for free will,
a peaceful vote for Ron Paul.
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