Ron Paul: Why I Didn’t Run as an Independent


Interviewer: Ron Paul is packing up his Washington condo this week, preparing to sell it and move back to Texas for good. Paul is retiring from Congress, and last week he gave a farewell address from the House floor, repeating the small-government sermon he first shouted in obscurity, and then injected into the national debate. With his time in Washington DC coming to a close, I sat down with Paul for a kind of ‘exit interview’.

Question: You’ve been here on-and-off since 1976, what would you say the three most damaging special interests are in Washington?

Ron Paul: You know, I see so many, and they’re all the same.

Interviewer: I know, but you much have some that really bother you.

Ron Paul: I think the military-industrial complex is very bad.

Interviewer: That was No.1.

Ron Paul: I don’t know if they should be in order.

Interviewer: Okay, don’t give them in order.

Ron Paul: Another one would be the banking system: how the Federal Reserve works and how it helps big banks. The interest that I would like to see, and that I worked on, was to try to get those people who just want their freedom to take care of themselves, and that’s the one that’s the least influential. Up here, it’s the people who want stuff and who get the benefits by just lobbying for those things that they want.

Interviewer: Another thing you mentioned in your farewell speech is your belief that we need to build coalitions, not necessarily reach compromises. And I wonder if you think your beliefs could be a 51% coalition in your lifetime, or in what timeframe?

Ron Paul: I think if I talk to a crowd of people, no matter which crowd, and say, “Do you believe in the free enterprise system, that people should be able to work and have their earning?” they say, “Yea, I believe that”. And if I asked, “Do you believe that your privacy should be protected, that the government shouldn’t be in your bedroom, that they shouldn’t be spying on you?” people would agree. And, most of the time when I asked, “Do you think we should be the policeman of the world?” they say, “No”. But when it comes to the particulars, they don’t stick with it, and they say, “Yes, but go too far, you want too much freedom”.

Interviewer: Well, this is another thing you touched on in that speech, you said this idea of liberty is popular, has been popular, so why doesn’t it win. It’s kind of a question that you didn’t fully answer in that speech, why do you think it doesn’t win?

Ron Paul: Not a lot of people talk about it, and I did try to explain it in the speech, in that, the concern about freedom was lost because freedom creates so much prosperity, that people get complacent. Then they become materialistic, and all they can deal with is redistribution and they find that with the government, you can make more money by getting a contract from the government than by being a genius and being productive. You know, when I first came here in 1976, I think I was under the impression that if you talk about welfare, you’re talking about those people who won’t work and get food stamps. But I have a very different opinion now. That exists, and it’s not healthy, but that’s minor compared to the food stamps the wealthy get. The wealthy get the contracts and the special deals, and that’s where I think the biggest trouble is.

Interviewer: That’s a way of speaking that most Republicans don’t usually engage in. Your son, the senator from Kentucky, Rand Paul, said recently that the Republican Party is in danger of becoming a dinosaur.

Ron Paul: Yea, but I think the whole government and the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are all dinosaurs.

Interviewer: What’s the future of the Republican Party, though?

Ron Paul: Well, the same as the Democratic Party. The principles are dinosaurs. The parties are going to linger because they’re locked in by law. You know, we’re not allowed to compete, the laws are biased against us from competing. And if you go third-party, you can’t get in the debates and you can’t get on ballots.

Interviewer: You talk about the grip of that two-party system, did you seriously consider running as an independent for President in 2012?

Ron Paul: No.

Interviewer: You didn’t consider it because it’s not practical?

Ron Paul: Not practical, absolutely not practical. Because this would have been a good year to have an alternative, and you can’t get much of a showing either on the Libertarian side or the Green side.

Interviewer: So then, how do we get out of this system, what do us see as the answer to this, or do we just keep bumping along with the way things are? You can’t believe that, that would make you too sad.

Ron Paul: No, you go to the campuses, you rally the young people, and you stir up a whole generation of people. Ideas do have consequences, and that’s where the good news is, because the campuses are alive and well with these views and they know the system is bankrupt. And there is this illusion that you can spend endlessly and print endlessly, and there will always be credit out there. And so far so good, but credit can end quickly, the dollar can crash quickly, and a new system will have to be developed.

Interviewer: One last thing, where do you pride yourself?

Ron Paul: Nothing in particular, other than the fact that the people say, “One thing we can say about you is that you are very consistent”, and they say this in a very nice way.

Interviewer: And you’ve changed the discussion in this country, you must be proud of that.

Ron Paul: Yea, that would be nice, time will tell. But what I always get a charge out of is when they’re so nice and they say, “This is good, you’re very consistent”, they must say to themselves, “But I’m always inconsistent”, and that’s wonderful. And they run the show, I never ran anything, I was just bubbling along here when it came to legislation. So the people who, in a way, admit they’re inconsistent, get to run the Legislative System.

Interviewer: Thank you so much for your time, we really appreciate it.

Ron Paul: You’re welcome.

  • proudpainter

    Wow … well said!

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  • WORRO01

    I love you Brother Paul, thanks for all you did, and tried to do. Washington TAKE NOTES!

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  • andyhello23

    One thing always remember none of the public groups we know of run the system, so stop saying its this group or that group. They run all major groups, and its something that gets lost on the public.

    The real ptb are not any of the groups we know off. They made all these groups so we would be splintered of and never address them which are hidden.

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  • andyhello23

    You see most people are so arrogant that they have been lied too all there lifes, and they fell into the trap of it all. Ron paul tried to get people to listen, but it depends on people themselves to be open to a message.

    Arrogance keeps secrets better than any gov agency. The public believe they all know the truth, while most of all everyone knows is made up bull.

    Pissing against an all conquering wind, the moriah, as the ptb might say, is what ron was doing. PTB control the wind of change.

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  • adamhaye

    He did run for president, i’m assuming you found his wisdom more recently than that.

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  • Surfisher

    Ron Paul, freed of the encumbrance of running for office, IS NOW DEVOTING HIS TIME to Educate the People (and especially the young generation that will be our Future in a few years) that the Rights of the Individual, the US Citizen, are NEVER to be transgressed upon by any Unconstitutional “Laws, Rules and Regulations” that may be enacted by ANYONE in Office!

    That Wars the White House starts without Congressional approval are not only Unconstitutional, but have bankrupted us! That our Money is funny paper printed by a Private, Never Audited, organization called the Federal Reserve Board, that is NOT part of the US Treasury Department (the only LAWFUL AGENCY ALLOWED BY THE US CONSTITUTION TO ISSUE VALID US Dollars)!

    And the list of our Citizens sufferings goes on!

    Ron Paul will now have a greater impact in saving America then ever before! Expect great things from this Greatest American in the months to follow — and in the next few years — expect that HIS Liberty Movement will Finally END the Tyranny that the Centralized Federal Government has tried to impose on We, the People!

    In this latest interview (11-30-2012), Ron Paul logically dissects the problems of our nation — and gives apodictic solutions to the Intentional Mess the Criminals that have taken Control of the US Government have plunged us into!

    Must watch 10 minutes video — spread it like Wildfire!

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  • LiquidSmooth

    Good ridance to ROn Paul. He had a big stage, and could have pointed out the real problems.

    I wish people would understand how evil the John Birch Society really is. All this propaganda about fearing a communist takeover allowed for another country to secretly takeover America.

    The Vatican, the smallest country in the world, has taken over america.

    Wake up folks, we live in a country with over 50% protestants, yet NO PROTESTANT on either presidential ticket?

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  • JoyceJeffersonTV

    I hope he does more speeches & tours, esp. around college campuses. :)

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  • WedidLandONtheMOON

    We will all miss you Dr.Ron Paul. Good luck.. I hope one day i get to meet you..

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  • sethzky77

    He’s not dead yet, and I’m glad he retired from that shithole congress. I hope he does something else cool after this.

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  • imRyRy

    I’d love to listen to a conversation between Ron Paul and Noam Chomsky. Both I have a lot of respect for.

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  • dying2self2000

    it’s such ashamed he didn’t run for president…he would have been my choice…God bless Ron Paul!

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  • arya721

    Meeting him last year in his office was one of the most memorable moments of my life. We shared some good laughs

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  • Gordon

    Dr. Paul was and is the focal point on returning to the Republic but he has created a silent war without the understanding of strategy. The current isolated source of corruption is the Federal Reserve and by that I mean the history of the world has been based on economics for thousands of years, wars are fought for money, control is sought for money, slavery results from lack of money as stated by Norm Franz:
    Gold is the money of kings;
    Silver is the money of gentlemen;
    barter is the money of peasants;
    but debt is the money of slaves.”
    In order for the Republic to be reborn it is required the states refuse by nullification to cooperate with the Federal Govt. If it cannot collect the taxes, it will depend on printing counterfeit money, which is suicide and the house of cards will fall due to paper being worthless in over abundance. The time has come for the states to create interest free money and starve the Federal Reserve into suicide. The Federal Govt. cannot operate without the cooperation of all fifty states and there is a way to stop paying taxes, which will end all the give a ways to all the moochers.

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  • Carol

    In short, Congress is bought off. It has been for a long time and will be , no end in sight. As long as they make their own laws and exempt themselves from what they force on us they will just keep doing what they are doing untill we are destroyed and they dont have their jobs and theres no money left to pay them whats owed……just like they did to the elderly.

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  • http://N/A Kimmerd30

    My personal thanks to all Ron Paul and Gary Johnson supporters for helping re-elect Barrack Obama. We couldn’t have done it without you.

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    • Michael J. Weber

      The RNC reinstated Ovomit by nominating Magic Underwear Mitt, don’t blame those of us who refused to vote for the “lesser of two evils”.

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      • http://N/A Kimmerd30

        Yeah Right. You and your SH*T for brains group will be wondering what happened after Obama runs and wins again in 2016 (3rd term). You idiots helped put him in there so you live with it…

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  • Thone Siharath

    A good leader is the one who create greater leaders, Dr. Paul represent that leader.

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  • Thone Siharath

    A good leader is the one who create greater leaders, Dr. Paul represent that leader.

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  • http://na PHK

    Mr. James Hines articulates well my own thoughts on non support of Gary Johnson. Seems to me that Mr. Johnson espoused virtually all of the Paul positions. Not to mention the fact that he was the only candidate who actually addressed the real issues facing the US of A. Hard to imagine that Dr Paul if asked who he REALLY would have liked to see win the election would have said other than Mr. Johnson. I do believe that Dr Paul owes an explanation to all those who supported him throughout the last few years as to why he did not endorse Gary Johnson. Most especially as he asks us to continue the cause via the Campaign for Liberty.

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  • Anatol Zorikova

    Ron Paul has to continue what he has started. He has to form his own third party or must run as independent in 2016. America needs it, it does not matter what Ron Paul thinks about it or he wants or not do so, he just MUST.
    American ask you: “Dr. Ron Paul, please do this…”

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