Ron Paul on Chris Kyle: Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword




Ron Paul posted the following Twitter update earlier today:

Update: Ron Paul posted the following clarification on Facebook:

As a veteran, I certainly recognize that this weekend’s violence and killing of Chris Kyle were a tragic and sad event. My condolences and prayers go out to Mr. Kyle’s family. Unconstitutional and unnecessary wars have endless unintended consequences. A policy of non-violence, as Christ preached, would have prevented this and similar tragedies. -REP

From Wikipedia:

Live by the sword, die by the sword

The phrase is found in the Christian Book of Revelation, 13:10: “He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.” (Rev.13:10 KJV)

Commonly, the expression is understood to mean, “You can expect to become a victim of whatever means you use to get what you want.”

A proverb in the Gospel of Matthew, verse 26:52, describes a disciple (identified in the Gospel of John as Simon Peter) drawing a sword to defend against the arrest of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane, but is rebuked by Jesus, who tells him to sheath the weapon:

Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword (Matthew 26:52, King James Version)

This exchange looms large in progressive Christian theories of violence and power.

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  1. Chris Kyle was a mass murderer. thank god that justice was done. Eddie Ray Routh is a hero.

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    • Chris Kyle was a mass lifesaver. He killed bad guys that good guys may live. If you cannot handle that, let's meet and discuss it.

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      • So, the US invading and policing other nations in so to "protect our interests" aka OIL/REFINERIES.. makes them the good guys? Hmmmm, so with the same logic, Iraqis and Afghans or whomever else, coming over and doing the very same thing to us on our own soil, would make us the bad guys, yes? NO!

        Not to mention : Who comes home after all those experiences of killing 150 people and brags about it in a book? Most true American Heros don't desire to even talk about it.. because deep within themselves, they feel at least a little ashamed.. despite the following of orders.

        I'm so sorry for him and his family for their loss.... and also, for those innocent men, women and children that he played a role in their deaths.

        The only one who could've controlled KARMA was him. What goes around, comes around. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

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  2. Ron Paul's comment is a ignorant twisting of scripture at best. The actual quote is "take the sword" and it means obeying the government.

    If you want to know the truth, explained so even a congressman can understand it:

    ► TQO#242 Ron Paul: Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword and sniper Chris Kyle

    http://www.obamasucks.tv/docs/tqo242.html

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    • "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again your sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

      Not an ignorant twisting of anything. The meaning is the same. Some people might have enough integrity to disobey illegal orders. Might make them seem a bigger "hero".... and a much more interesting read, I think :-)

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  3. So we should expect the rest of our snipers to be gunned down?
    ONE former sniper gets murdered and someone somehow thinks it's in fulfillment of the Bible. What about all the others that haven't been shot?

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  4. I find it interesting to read the comments about Mr. Paul's message. Being a Canadian, it would appear that people in this comment section want to make the message about the Islamic believers against the Christians. Also whether Mr. Kyle is a "hero" or a "murderer"?

    Ron Paul's message has still been consistent. If the American government hadn't invaded a foreign, sovereign nation, none of this would have happened. You'd think by now that the facts the Bush government overtly lied to their own people, other world leaders and peoples about the weapons of mass destruction would be simple to understand. The fact they started a war in Iraq and Afganistan with no "Declaration of War" sanctioned by your Congress as it calls for in your own Declaration of Independence is pitiful. The fact decision making has become executive rather then through your officially recognized officials is frightening.

    The fact (publicly proved) Dick Cheney and others made huge profits (and still are today) as a result of this war is sickening. It would appear people still don't see the forest for the trees. It also stuns me that people mention that Saddam did bad deeds, even to his own people. However, these same people forget to mention in the above posts that it was the American government who put him into power in Iraq.

    It further surprises me that Mr. Paul's messages are not being heard with regard to the American economy. Everyone in the world seems to bury their heads in the sand. Canada is no different. Consider that America is the biggest player in military might. America also has the only armed general population left on earth that would even come close to fighting back against a corrupt government. The guns are gone everywhere else for the most part and this has been done in accordance with the UN protocol. The way to get to you Americans is to destroy the economy, not through military destruction. This destruction is happening while you argue about fighting wars and no one seems to get it.

    We in Canada had a gun registry that they said would curb crime. It did nothing. Only legal gun owners were coerced and hassled into registering the guns with the government. Most older gun owners just gave up their weapons as it was too much hassle. They say now that the registry has been destroyed as so many of us were against it. I doubt it has gone anywhere and they still know where all the guns are. (at least those who were fooled and coerced into providing this information) We are just following UN protocol.

    The entire issue is really about the loss of freedoms and control over your own destiny. Many Americans and Canadians for that matter wave their respective flags while shouting about freedoms. Take a close look and you'll realize you are losing more and more actual freedoms everyday. Simple things like what you can do on your own property. Can you just build anything you wish? No! You have to get whatever you wish to build authorized by a higher power. This is just an example. You and I are not free peoples and do not live in free societies. Our governments have made us more and more reliable on them with each passing year. There are more and more rules for us to follow and obey every year. Power is being centralized and removed more and more from the hands of your elected officials. In Canada, there are more and more quasi government bodies that don't answer to elected officials every year. The scary part is that regular citizens don't even have recourse should they not agree with these particular bodies decisions.

    People had better get with Mr. Paul's philosophies and actually start to study their loss of freedoms on their own. Your own Presidents, starting with George Bush Sr., gave up his membership to the NRA and in the same year started talking about the New World Order. (again following the UN protocols). The central bankers who seem to control the world now finance organizations to remove the guns from the average citizen and it has worked in most western nations. The UN has these plans out in plain site in the form of Agenda 21 for anyone to see. That is how confident they are that the bickering between citizens will continue concerning religion against religion, fear against fear, that if we don't follow what we're being told, doom will besiege all of us. Your government, like ours, use our fears to control us and provide them the "moral authority" to act on our behalf in this apparent "war on terrorism".

    Last year, I had a layover at LAX. I waited in line to pass through immigration. I watched as everyone had their finger prints taken, etc. I fully expected to have to be subjected to this same kind of invasion of my privacy and was shocked to learn Canadians were not subject to the same treatment. I later shockingly learned this is because they already have any information about me provided courtesy the Canadian Government.

    I commend Mr. Paul for actually standing up for what he particularly believes. It should be interesting to most Americans how he was all but ignored by mainstream media in your last election even when he was close to winning primaries as if he wasn't even there. It should also concern people that he seemed to win in elections that were voted for in person and by hand and lost in those where computer voting was used.

    Wish we had a Ron Paul in Canada to attempt to wake up our population! People need to step back from religion, bickering amongst one another, and really think about what freedoms they have and those that they want. That is the real issue.

    PS. If you think the gun debate raging in your country is about gun control, your right. It will be the slow dismantling of your 2nd amendment rights and eventual removal of guns from your general population. Obama has publicly stated already that your fathers of Confederation did not intent the 2nd amendment to apply to today's world. He professed things have changed. He's also full of shit. If you don't believe me, there are many other examples of the slow and steady erosion of peoples rights and freedoms that can be provided.

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