Ron Paul on Chris Kyle: Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword




Ron Paul posted the following Twitter update earlier today:

Update: Ron Paul posted the following clarification on Facebook:

As a veteran, I certainly recognize that this weekend’s violence and killing of Chris Kyle were a tragic and sad event. My condolences and prayers go out to Mr. Kyle’s family. Unconstitutional and unnecessary wars have endless unintended consequences. A policy of non-violence, as Christ preached, would have prevented this and similar tragedies. -REP

From Wikipedia:

Live by the sword, die by the sword

The phrase is found in the Christian Book of Revelation, 13:10: “He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.” (Rev.13:10 KJV)

Commonly, the expression is understood to mean, “You can expect to become a victim of whatever means you use to get what you want.”

A proverb in the Gospel of Matthew, verse 26:52, describes a disciple (identified in the Gospel of John as Simon Peter) drawing a sword to defend against the arrest of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane, but is rebuked by Jesus, who tells him to sheath the weapon:

Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword (Matthew 26:52, King James Version)

This exchange looms large in progressive Christian theories of violence and power.



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  1. You worthless baby killin putz. What the hell have you done or veterans lately? Kyle was helping a brother out, made a mistake and paid for that with his life. I hope you burn in hell you puny jerk weed.

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    • Chuck, who exactly are you calling baby killer? You mean the Navy sniper who's probably killed way more good people than bad, seeing as how he works for the Gov. Open up a book sometime, and in your wildest dreams will you ever be as enlightened as Dr. Ron Paul... Stick your head in a toilet, then flush!!

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  2. Dear Sir, up until now I have thought of you as one of the very last politician with honesty and common sense. But if you indeed made the comment about Chris Kyle, we sir you should resign your spot in government and not accept another nickle from it. He was doing his job as directed by the government.

    Many of us have sons or step sons in the service. It scares both moms and dads senseless when they are over seas fighting in another country, as Chris had done.

    Chris was a soldier. Our soldier.

    You sir need to learn respect.

    I would no longer vote or support you or your causes.

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  3. If Ron did not mean how many are understanding his comment, then where is his explanation that he has been misunderstood? If his account was hacked, where is his retraction?

    As a father of one serving, Ron you need to rethink your position and apologize to all those who have been ordered into harms way to fight the wars this country has ordered them to fight. If the comment is your comment, glad you are no longer representing Texas in Congress!

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    • Now that Mr. Paul has responded, it is apparent that he is very ignorant of the Bible's teaching concerning the use of the "sword." Mr. Paul, faulty ideas cause us to arrive at false conclusions.

      1. Matthew 26:52 that you quote refers to those that resort to violence and bloodshed as a way of life to accomplish their personal goals. Those who exhibit such vile behavior are judged by the same standard. This is illustrated by Proverbs 1:10-19. Mr. Paul, surely you are not equating our brave men and women that were ordered into combat as being "sinners" verse 10 that Solomon warns his sons to avoid. Solomon is warning his sons to avoid those that gain riches by bloodshed, not avoid soldiers that may have to destoy evil men in order to protect us.

      2. In Luke 22:36 Jesus instructs his disciples to go and sell their coat and buy a sword. Obviously Jesus believed in the fundamental right of self protection. If having a sword and using a sword for protection is wrong, does that not cause Jesus to commit sin by telling His disciples to buy a sword? Obviously that conclusion is erronious.

      3. In Romans 13:4 Paul clearly teaches that the government has the responsibility to bear the "sword" against those that practice evil. Obviously Paul is not teaching that the government is as passivist organization to spread the love of Jesus. That is reserved for the Church, not the government.

      Mr. Paul you have greatly insulted a brave man and his comrads in arms that defend this nation.

      THM 1984 DTS

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  4. you are a disgusting human being. I hope you are voted out of office. I have never know anyone but that fruitcake bunch in wichita that would disrespect our finest that way. you are not human.

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  5. You coward SOB. While you were sitting pretty in Congress after all the abortions you performed, the government you sat with sent this highly trained brave fighter to kill bad guys in our name, with your blessing, while you did everything you could to get a higher place in the game. He dies taking care of soldiers you and this POS governement abandoned. Your day in front of God will be interesting to say he least but you might want to postpone that for awhile because you are not gonna be happy when it comes. You make me sick you pompass ass.

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    • I am not sure if Ron Paul really said that or not. If so, it was poor taste. However, your comment is completely uninformed. Ron Paul never performed any abortions and military intervention in Iraq was not done with Ron Paul’s “blessing”.

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  6. How in the WORLD does - - "Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense " - - equate with the inflammitory headline - - " Ron Paul: Chris Kyle Had It Coming " Paul should sue for slander and defamation !

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  7. God bless you Chris Kyle!! Thank you for your service!!

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  8. I am so embarrassed that a senior leadership official in Washington would make such callus statement about the very people that protect the freedoms he and his family enjoys on a daily basis! Shame on you! Instead of turning your back on our warriors, how about coming up with a better plan for our brothers and sisters in arms involving the treatment of PTSD? You are an embarrassment! I am ashamed of the majority of our senior leadership in Washington! Wake up and stop catering to special interest groups!

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  9. He 'lived by the sword' alright, OUR SWORD! He killed on behalf of the United States government to defend and protect us. It takes a lot of nerve to make a comment like Dr. Paul made and he dropped WAY down in my esteem after saying such a stupid thing.

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  10. What did RP just put on his Facebook?
    "As a veteran, I certainly recognize that this weekend's violence and killing of Chris Kyle were a tragic and sad event. My condolences and prayers go out to Mr. Kyle’s family. Unconstitutional and unnecessary wars have endless unintended consequences. A policy of non-violence, as Christ preached, would have prevented this and similar tragedies. -REP"

    "Unconstitutional and unnecessary wars have endless unintended consequences." Chris Kyle's death was one of those unintended consequences.

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  11. RP's worst nightmare

    Hacked? The account was hacked? Ron Paul, one of your supporters made that question up just to give you an excuse for writing that. We all know that a guy like you wrote that because you are anti-war and probably wish every former, current, and future soldier would drop dead. You, my good sir, deserve a special little spot in Hell. Those soldiers keep us safe from terrorists every day. They die for us. And you believe that Chris Kyle deserved death for neutralizing over 150 threats. He showed the men he shot no mercy because he knew they would show him none. And he would have give no mercy, because you have proven you would give him none in return. You RESPSECT the men who sacrifice everything for our freedom, even if some of us like you aren't grateful for that freedom. You will regret ever tweeting that.

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  12. People just want to slam Ron Paul for the sake of slamming. Same as people slamming obama for the sake of slamming. And people blaming bush for everything. HOW INTELLIGENT IS THAT?

    If you did your research, Ron Paul called Chris Kyle an American hero. When he said living by the sword and being killed by the sword, he is basically criticizing our government for being involved in too many war fronts. And when he said treating PTSD at the firing range is not right, he was referring to the shooter. Now, I think we can all agree intellectually that allowing a person with PTSD at the shooting range is suicidal.

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  13. What a horrible thing to say. What hav you done for this country you coward ass wipe.

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  14. I hope you did not make this comment. If you did shame on you. Anyone who makes such an abrasive comment without knowing the facts and subtleties of this situation should not be trying to lead anyone let alone this country. Very ill advised and boorish.

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  15. RP has lost it big time

    He must be off his meds again

    Feel bad for his son. He is not a nut job like his old man

    Oh we'll RP is not a player anymore and that is a good thing

    Carl

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  16. This ignorant comment only serves to prove that Ron Paul was not even close to being fit to serve as Commander in Chief.

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    • To some people the only people fit to be Commander in Chief of the USA are the cowards and lapdogs who lay down and become a doormat for the Jewish lobby that runs the USA.

      What a spectacle the Republican primary was, with one American standing up and speaking up for the interests of America and five or six others shaking their heads at his words because he didn't want to blow up half the middle east for Israel and its Jewish supporters in the USA. Now Chuck Hagel is getting the third degree for saying "I'm an American senator, not an Israeli senator". The average American is so in the dark its amazing.

      I find nothing honorable or brave about snipers or assassins.

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  17. Most of these comments prove the obvious yet again: emotions trump reason any day of the week and twice on Sunday...but logic doesn't just go away once you get emotional. If you don't like RP's comments about Chris Kyle, you obviously don't understand his intentions and meaning. Please read my earlier comment.

    RP was in no way speaking ill about Chris Kyle. He was stating the facts of growing trend in America: Many soldiers come home from the war, only to find themselves in another sort of war. Violence follows soldiers, once it's in their psyche it's a hard thing to control/suppress. Due to the sociological and psychological effects of war, it is a fact that "those who live by the sword" (soldiers) often "die by the sword" (that is, are killed violently under a diverse variety of circumstances). THIS IS DEFINITELY FAR FROM THE FIRST TIME A SOLDIER WHO TOURED ABROAD CAME HOME AND WAS KILLED VIOLENTLY OR KILLED OTHERS VIOLENTLY.

    In fact it is happening more frequently given the horrors of war our soldiers are exposed to and the abundance of conflicting feelings about their service. A lot of our soldiers think "fighting terrorism" and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are BS, but either way they must serve so serve they do...and killing in a war you don't agree can leave one with a psyche in constant conflict about highly emotional issues which is not healthy for your mind.

    As a soldier, when you come home (when many soldiers debrief their psyche and wonder "what did I accomplish there?") only to recognize that you, your fellow soldiers, and your entire country has been living a lie and killing innocent people who you only knew because you were there to kill them, you can experience intense cognitive dissonance which can cause incredible emotional distress. When training broke them down and taught them to "keep fighting no matter what", is it a wonder why so many soldiers respond to intense emotional trauma by becoming violent!? They weren't exactly trained how to meditate away their first-hand experiences of intense violence or deal with it in any way for that matter.

    PTSD is no joke and it often ends in tragedy for soldiers who suffer from it...that was RP's point. Want to have a serious discussion, America!? LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING TO OUR SOLDIERS!!!

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    • At least some of us get it.
      I'm really surprised that this is getting a lot of negative feedback. I'm not sure if people are only seeing what they want to see, or if they just have really bad reading comprehension skills.

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    • If you actually believe the tweet was not negative and the intent was not denigration of Chris Kyle, perhaps you may be a little too invested in a politician with a penchant (indeed lust) for denigration of others.

      Ron Paul is not Jesus, and he is not infallible. He's a politician like any other, perhaps worse. Paul engages in personal attacks almost as often as Barack Obama (ex. the past two election cycles), and he's as brittle about criticism (as evidenced when he walked out when CNN dared to ask him about his newsletters). Seriously, stop worshiping the man and see him for what he is - no different than any other politician bent on exploiting you as a source of cash and a personal shield.

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  18. Hacked account, Ron Paul has a soft spot for combat veterans that just want to come home. Anyone who believes this that easily probably lacks military service thus has no idea the type of respect veterans have for each other.

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    • Evidence of the hacking is where?

      I realize that this comment board is conspiracy theory central, but you will occasionally encounter those that view aforementioned as history for the stupid, and you'd better be able to answer at some point.

      Perhaps Dr. Paul could blame this one on Lew Rockwell. That worked for the newsletters.

      Also, John Kerry and John Murtha are two prominent examples of veterans that trashed other veterans to their own personal / political benefit. Dr. Paul has used his own non-combat level service as a bludgeon against criticism, so if he or his bud Jesse Ventura take some flack from an actual badass SEAL vet, it's also very easy for him to go negative. Paul Nation will excuse whatever hate speech Ron Paul engages in - which I'm sure he appreciates.

      Just what would it take for Paul Nation to dump their patron saint, if something so obvious as this does not?

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  19. People, before you get upset, please read and analyze what Ron Paul actually tweeted. The title is a bit misleading so let's just focus on R,P.'s statement. Let's break it down.

    **Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword."* *

    Ron Paul was quoting Jesus/The Bible and merely stating that Kyle's death confirms the truth in that saying. Chris Kyle, a soldier who shoots people with guns for a living was also killed with a gun. There is no judgement here. He is not saying that he deserved to die this way, that is just what happened.

    **Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense**

    I have to agree with Ron Paul on this one. Someone who is suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is mentally unstable. They think that their life or others' lives are in danger.They may feel afraid or feel that they have no control over what's happening around them. Does it seem like a good idea to put a gun in the hand of a person who's in this kind of mental state?

    So please, before you start getting angry or hating Ron Paul, make sure you understand what he is saying. Otherwise, you just sound like an idiot. Peace!

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  20. Ron, you have just shown your true colors, the rest of you clowns trying to support or justify his comments, go suck it, you have no idea what happened, and the conspiracy remarks, this is the exact reason Ron never came close to being elected, I thought Uncle Joe was the crazy one, both seem to be.

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