Ron Paul Calls on United Nations to Confiscate RonPaul.com

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Update: The dispute was peacefully resolved on May 22, 2013. WIPO ruled that RonPaul.com shall remain with its current owners. The fight for liberty continues.

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618 responses to “Ron Paul Calls on United Nations to Confiscate RonPaul.com”

  1. careyd

    Come on guys. Time to lay down and sell the name site back to Ron Paul for a buck. If you truly believe in the cause, that’s what you need to do. For the good of the cause. You’re going to lose this if you fight. Plus, this is a huge distraction from what should be the more noble and greater cause of liberty. You don’t want to be sewing dissent and division in the movement.

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    1. Nonpaul supporter

      It probably cost them lots of money to keep the site up and they have to pay for salaries and expenses. Why should Paul just get it for free? Doesn’t he believe in free market enterprise anymore? Or is that just when it doesn’t involve him?

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      1. mike

        Hahaha.. salaries and expenses!? The whole site is comprised of copy-pasted articles!

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  2. Givejonadollar

    I don’t think I’ve ever had a negative thought about Ron Paul until this just happened. He is not acting like a libertarian at all right now and I think he needs to be called out hard on what he is trying to do.

    What’s next? Does LewRockwell.com have to “redirect” to the new Ron Paul website since they have “benefited” off his name for all of these years?

    Did Ron try to negotiate beforehand? Why does he say that if we want Oil from other countries we should trade with them? Or, should we just go to the UN and confiscate it from them?

    I consider the DR dead wrong on this one.

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  3. it's me

    I was pretty sure when I donated to the Ron Paul campaign, that I was donating money to help him get elected. Oh… wait a second…

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  4. Will

    Sorry guys,

    Dr. Paul is right — it’s his name and as Libertarians, you should agree.

    By virtue of the fact that you offered to sell your domain to Dr. Paul is precisely the reason that we should own our own names. Whats more, that mailing list was acquired by invoking his name and riding off his principles and positions.

    Your website is popular because Dr. Paul is popular.

    You assembled the list, but Dr. Paul did the heavy lifting — how many names would you have gotten if he showed badly at the debates and attracted no followers?

    Still think you own it?

    In any case, if you’ll sell it to him, who else could you sell it to?

    Dr. Paul is a man of unwavering principles and this is a matter of principle — A principle of ownership and individual rights.

    Should you get a free ride because you are saying nice things about Ron Paul–for now?

    Here’s the right course of action for you (the Libertarian course of action):

    Ask Dr. Paul for his written permission to use his name and likeness, for a token fee, say a dollar. I’m sure that is a much more the right thing to do rather than try to cash in on what you only partially earned.

    Better yet, give it to him.

    That way, you have acknowledged his ownership of his name and you get to chug along.

    The minute you tried to make a buck of of Dr. Paul, you showed your true loyalty–money.

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  5. mike

    Only reason this was taken into arbitration with WIPO is because Ron realized what a scum sucking bottom-feeder you really are.

    By the way, why is your business registered in Panama City?

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  6. Gary Johnson

    I gotta say, this is hilarious. The UN is so weak and/or evil (depending on the time of day) that RON PAUL uses it to confiscate a website from rather devoted followers. This is the perfect storm and I love it.

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    1. mike

      LOL Gitmo Gary! are you done crowd surfing yet?

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  7. Dave Head

    I’m surprised by all the Ron Paul hate.

    I’ve disagreed with Paul on many, many things. Like his anti-gay marriage stance. I still supported him though because there’s no such thing as a man who agrees with everything I believe. To expect 100% agreement is unrealistic on your part.

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  8. Michelle

    Any and all politics aside, I have to say I agree with Mr. Paul. He should be able to have the ronpaul.com and .org website names. You could change to ronpaulsupporters.com or something like that. Give it up, guys.

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  9. RonPaulFan

    You guys are making money off his name. He deserves the site for free. He’s not the bad guy here. There is no bad guy in this situation, you guys are honest supporters of Dr. Paul. But if he wants his site with his name, he deserves to have it for free.
    Ron Paul should not have to buy his own name for crying out loud.
    Please give him the site and lets not make this an issue that will be used against him in the future.
    Thank you.

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  10. Matt

    He’s the same as he’s always been. The only difference now is that you’re the ones getting punked.

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  11. Ron is a commie

    New Ron Paul flag

    The Hammer and the Sickle!

    You let us down Mr. Paul!

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    1. Coruscant

      Ron Paul is this decades Ross Perot. He corralled the votes he needed to to swing the election the way his and the rest of the politicians masters wanted him to. He is a sellout. Present the truth but not act on the truth, What more need be said?

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  12. Ted R

    Our last saviour Ron Paul was a U.N. statist the whole time.

    I’m shocked at this news!

    Had no idea Ron Paul is a communist!

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  13. Pay up Ron

    Ron should pay Ronpaul.com more than $800,000 its only fair.

    This traffic this site gets is incredible, this place sells alot of hoodies and is worth at least 2 million.

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  14. Dave Head

    Lots of people attribute things to Paul he never said. The 9/11 Truthers claim he thinks it was an inside job (but he has actually denied that he thinks that). You guys think Paul is against copyright and trademark, and yet he has gone and trademarked his own name (which is why the domain is his).

    Some people think he’s pro-gay but he has stated he would pass laws at the state level to ban gay marriage. You need to understand who Ron Paul actually *is* not some imaginary conception. He is a liberty-leaning Christian and Republican, not a libertarian

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  15. RON NO MORE

    IM DONE WITH RON PAUL

    THIS CRYING TO THE UNITED NATIONS IS THE LAST STRAW

    HES A STATIST DOLT JUST LIKE HIS SON

    RON PAUL – ANOTHER SCUMMY POLITICIAN LIKE ROMNEY AND OBAMA

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    1. JoinOrDie

      Maybe you should research how to initiate arbitration over domain name disputes, and see that this is really his only option. It’s not a “tribunal,” it’s arbitration. OR SHOULD I DO THIS SO YOU CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT I’M SAYING?

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  16. Ron Paul is a DIRTBAG!

    Wow!

    Ron Paul has been lying to us!

    Had know idea Ron Paul loved the UN.

    Maybe its good Ron Paul wasnt elected.

    This proves Mr Paul was not who he said he was!

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  17. Wow, just wow

    If the comments on this article are representative of Ron Paul supporters I’m glad that guy didn’t get elected.

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  18. Sergius

    Kinda makes you wish you hadn’t sided with him when he abused trademark law to try to expose the people that made the fake anti-Huntsman video, right?

    Now the shoe is in the other foot.

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  19. JamesCarbon

    This is very out of character of Dr. Paul. The domain name legally belongs to someone else. One could make the argument that Ron Paul is a common name and if Dr. Paul is entitled to the domain name so is every other Ron Paul in the world. Technically his name is (Ronald) Paul. So he would be more entitled to the domain name RonaldPaul.com. Im sick of this crap and I prefer to hear what Dr. Paul has to say for himself

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    1. JoinOrDie

      Does the merchandise look like one of the thousand other Ron Paul’s? Or is it a specific Ron Paul? These people are making a fortune off of him, with nothing going to him.

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  20. Jacob Begin

    And What is that Mr. Head. I’m sure your Mr wisdom yourself.

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  21. Barbara Fischer-Bunce

    Keep your mailing list, Ron Paul has a better one, getting a website with someone elses name without their permission is illegal; because you saw a way to make money, and you did; you have no right to someone elses’ name. Yes you raised money, thank you, but you don’t own someone’s name.
    Thank you; but you are not Ron Paul.

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  22. IM DONE WITH THIS SITE

    BOYCOTT THIS SITE

    REMOVE ANY LINKS POINTING TO THIS SITE

    DONT PURCHASE ANY ITEMS FROM THIS SITE

    SUPPORT DR PAUL 100%

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  23. Tom

    I don’t support Ron Paul at all in this decision! I spent a lot of time talking to others about Ron Paul, freedom, liberty and the Constitution. The lawsuit talks about “bad faith”. I think it is bad faith for Paul to try and take something which he did not create. The site owners spent countless hours helping Ron Paul and the liberty movement. He should just be grateful and move on with his retirement. As someone who loves Ron Paul and looks up to him sincerely, this hurts me.

    I was a county delegate who sent a Ron Paul delegate to Florida and I do not support Paul in this decision.

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  24. bill

    Both sides have a solid point, its his name, but also this site is what it is because of the work that has been put into it and Ron’s work.

    BUT this site made an offer to Ron(does not matter if you think its over priced or not they did) Ron did not even come back with a counter he went to the U.N.

    now here is Ron Paul the most consistent politician in the federal gov in decades, who has railed against the U.N. now he goes to the U.N. to get ‘his’ site WTF.

    This is why politics will NEVER work

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  25. Joshua

    Your letter makes you sound like a cyber squatter. You say in one breath how much harm it would be to shut the site down and ruin all the URLs that redirect to articles on the site. But then in the other breath make the whole thing sound perfectly fine as long as they pay 250K. It sounds like extortion.

    Plus you really shouldn’t be such an extremist. Calling him a sellout to the UN is pushing the envelope and not going to help your cause. ICANN is one of the few items that should be shared among all nations as no single government should have absolute control over the DNS name resolutions of the entire internet.

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  26. heath in arizona

    ron paul revolution is now over because of these ronpaul.com idiots

    ron pauls good name is now forever tarnished because of their greed

    ronpaul.com was never a top tier site, it was always a t-shirt, hat, bumper sticker site that sold swag off pauls good name.

    i hope you idiots who run this site are happy with what you have done

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  27. Luke

    The whole idea of selling a domain name is pretty lame all together. The registry is a non-profit, it sells the names for like $2-3 to registrars. Then you have hoarders buying the names by the thousands for $5 each. Others rush to buy names before the topic becomes popular, or they wait for registrations to expire and snatch them up. Whoever is first gets the gold. Its rubbish, truly. There is so much profit being driven by what amounts to a community service.

    So, I don’t know how the legal stuff is going to work out, but at least consider a few facts.

    * Most people who go to RonPaul.com expect to find a site owned by him
    * The majority of your content is about him.
    * You do very little work to generate site content, he generates it for you.
    * Without his efforts, the site would be entirely worthless.
    * Your data is a collection of people who care about him.
    * You don’t even pay extraordinary prices for hosting, every video I’ve seen on here was hosted by YouTube.

    Point is, your trying to charge him based on the value of this site. The value of this site is based on his work. Kinda twisted, right? You’re fighting the person who makes you money, biting the hand that feeds you.

    And to poke him about going to the U.N. is pretty crazy. ICANN is an international organization. The U.N. is an international government. He was likely advised by his lawyers what approach would be best. Just because he is critical of the U.N., it doesn’t mean he can ignore or boycott them. I dislike lots of things that I have to deal with on the daily.

    “Harmony” said it best. If you really care about Dr Paul and his message, you’ll help him by giving him the domains. I’m sure they’d work with you while you notify your fans about your move. With any luck, they might even offer to link to you. Your fans would also probably +1 you for giving the domain up, also, and will appreciate the fact that you sacrificed for the message of liberty.

    But, if you don’t care about Dr Paul, that’s fine too, keep the domains. Just admit that you’re in it for the money and care very little for any sort of ideology.

    -Luke

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  28. Empty Vee

    There’s probably a zillion Ron Pauls in the U.S. This domain is not “his” anymore than it belongs to any other Ron Paul.

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    1. Jacob Begin

      This site represents Ron Paul the one we all know and mostly support. Your empty notion that this site depicts just any Ron Paul out their is nonsense.

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  29. Pssshh

    Here is why this is stupid of Paul:
    -Ron Paul isn’t the only Ron Paul on earth so he doesn’t just get the site
    -RP preaches against UN forever in meddling yet runs to them at first chance
    -demanding it be seized by a govt without compensation is not in the spirit of a free market
    -these guys have been pushing RP hard and spreading the liberty message and turning on your own ilk is greedy
    -if he wins i’m going to give up on RP the man and just focus on his ideals (at least the old ones)

    I support the site and their stand against global tyranny!

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    1. Antonio Perez

      Actually, yes he can legally get this site. Read the laws.

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    2. Jesse

      Uh, he has a TRADEMARK on his political name, Ron Paul. As the man said before me, “read the laws.”

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  30. James

    I fail to see why you can’t continue this site using RonPaul.org and hand over RP’s domain name in the interests and the cause of Liberty if nothing else, that would be the patriotic thing to do.
    I can’t imagine why Ron Paul would need a mailing list of his own supporters, let alone be forced to pay for it.
    Do the right thing, and offer it at a reasonable cost (10k) and show your more concerned with the problems facing America than your bank balance.

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  31. Dyskord

    Why is this surprising to anyone?
    I am about sick of schizophrenic anarchists trying to rationalize constitutionalism and electoral wanking. ‘Education’ my ass. Most Paulbots are goddamn idiots and conservatards.

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  32. GreedyFalsePaulFollower

    P L E A S E !
    S T O P
    T H I S
    N O N E – S E N S E !

    GIVE THIS DOMAIN TO OWNER RON PAUL NOW!

    #OCCUPY RONPAUL.COM

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  33. Jacob

    Based on what I know of the issue I think both sides have made some bad moves, however, there is definitely a different Ron Paul now than when he was in office. He seems to have lost his ethical filter. I’ve used this site for years and if he wanted or needed it in the past he should have requested then. Going to the UN of all places is so screwed up. I support the folks at RonPaul.com and I pray that Ron Paul himself comes to his senses. Without the folks at this site or the hundreds of other related sites Paul would have never even made it into the debates, he needs to remember that.

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    1. David

      Ron Paul is not “a different Ron Paul now than when he was in office.” It’s just that now he is revealing who he was all along.

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    2. Dave Head

      He was not allowed to request the website while e was in Congress. It was against its internal rules. He had to ait until he was a private citizen again.

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  34. Paulsupporter

    I hope everything goes well between you all and Dr. Paul and this gets settled. You all put work and time into this site and if you have the rights to this domain should therefore have the right to sell it and not have it taken from you, even if and especially if its from the man you designed it to support. How is offering to sell the site to Dr. Paul extortion Mr. Head? I think Paul should have just offered to hire the maintainers of this site to run it for him directly.

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  35. Ernie D

    I’m an expert in domain disputes. Ron Paul does not have a slam dunk case to get the domains back. If the owners pay the $1,500 per domain for a 3-person UDRP panel, it’s likely they’ll win the .com and very likely they’ll keep the .org. If they don’t pay the $1,500, there will be only one so-called judge and they’ll lose because the system is corrupt.

    Since they offered to give away the .org, even a 1-person so-called judge would feel pressure to rule in their favor.

    Numerous UDRP cases have shown that politicans do not get the same protections as others. Also, if Paul allowed the domains to expire earlier, that will hurt him. Paul also waited 4.5 years before filing, not good for him.

    Politicians’ names do not easily support trademark interests per case precedent.

    As an example, Former Maryland Lt. Gov. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend lost a UDRP ruling. Meg Whitman, former eBay CEO lost when she filed on several political-related domains. Even Glenn Beck lost a case. In several rulings, owners retained domains because political activities are protected as political speech by the First Amendment.

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    1. Jacob Begin

      Who cares about your expert opinion on Domains. This is not worth the sweat off of Ron Paul’s Balls. This is’nt exactly Paul Mcartneys catalog. The Guy just doesn’t like middle men. He is launching his own thing. Thank you very much.

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