Ron Paul Calls on United Nations to Confiscate RonPaul.com

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Update: The dispute was peacefully resolved on May 22, 2013. WIPO ruled that RonPaul.com shall remain with its current owners. The fight for liberty continues.

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618 responses to “Ron Paul Calls on United Nations to Confiscate RonPaul.com”

  1. PaxAmericana

    Numerous businesses discovered, when they decided to develop an internet presence, that others had already registered .com names that they wanted. He does not have a right to ronpaul.com, any more than he would have a right to any of thousands of permutations it could be put into.. such as ron-paul.com or ron_paul.com, and so forth. He is not the only person in the world named Ron Paul… and further if one had that ability to make such a claim, he could then sue, as well, for anyone who made any satire site like Ronpaulsucks.com… claiming it to be defamation. Too bad… he should have had the foresight to register the domain name.

    What IS relevant most of all, is his now exposed hypocrisy in crying to appeal to the UN. Reminds me of people who spend time bad-mouthing cops, then first time someone steps on their lawn dials 911. I would like to hope some of the naive Paulbots would learn something from this experience and the man they idolized.. but I doubt they will.

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    1. PaxAmericana

      One other point.. he has no legal trademark upon his name. He is claiming a common-law trademark. I always find it amusing when people cite common-law, as we do not live under common-law.. we live under statute law.

      Given the thumbs-downs my prior post rec’d.. it is obvious that my final comment was true, and the paulbots did not learn a damned thing. Thanks for verifying my expectations. Keep clicking it folks, there are several of us watching and laughing our asses off every time.

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      1. lawboy87

        Sorry, that is incorrect (that there is NO common law rights to Trademarks) as there absolutely IS a common law right in Trademarks.

        I have practiced in the area for 25+ years, having started my legal career (following law school) at the US Patent & Trademark Office.

        The Lanham Act (Trademark Act) clearly recognizes “common law” rights in trademarks on both a Federal and State level, as the common law predates any statutory protection for trademarks at a Federal level. (See Sec. 43(a) of the Lanham Act.) Thus, an individual can rely upon either their “common law” rights in a Trademark, or their Statutory rights; or some combination thereof.

        By contrast, Copyright and Patent Law are solely matters of Federal Law and any “common law” which pre-existed the prevailing statutory scheme for each was eliminated completely upon adoption of their respective Statute.

        BTW, here’s the thing I find interesting, while the Uniform Dispute Resolution Process (UDRP) prescribed by ICANN is one of the two forms one can bring to settle disputes over domain names (the other being the Lanham Acts Sec. 43 (d), aka The Anti-Cybersquatting Piracy Act) there is NO requirement that he submit the dispute to ANY UN BODY! He could have simply brought the action before the US based – National Arbitration Forum which is sanctioned by ICANN to hear and judge any challenge under the UDRP.

        I wonder why he chose the UN’s WIPO to hear the case, when he had a perfectly valid alternative solely within the borders of the USA?

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    2. Dave Zan

      From what I’ve read so far, I doubt Mr. Paul even knows – much more understands – how or why his lawyer filed this administrative dispute with WIPO. Something along the lines of, “I don’t know this stuff, but you guys do. Take care of it.”

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  2. Aunt Jane

    I considered him my hero. I didn’t try to support Paul in 2012, I though he seemed to be “different”. Much as I hate to say it I think the old man is slipping his gears!
    I sorta understand why he wouldn’t want his name used commercially BUT he’s retired, I can’t imagine it is going to bring in many $$$ now!

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  3. Chief47

    Just sitting here wondering what Rand Paul has to say about all of this? Will be very interesting to hear his views if he chooses to comment on this mess.

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  4. Liberty4All

    “Let’s take a look at this situation. The owners of ronpaul.com for a long time have been cashing in on ad revenue because their site is the first result on a Google search of Ron Paul. In addition they have been collecting email addresses by asking for them while appearing like Ron Paul’s official site (possibly to sell them later as email lists are very valuable to political hacks).

    They have been profiting by selling mass quantities of T-shirts, hoodies, mugs, bumper stickers etc. emblazoned with the good doctor’s name and likeness, while not compensating him in any way.

    And now, when the man they have made all their money off of comes calling, they spit in his face by trying to sell him HIS OWN NAME for $850,000, quickly lowering it to $250,000 when they realize they may have gouged a bit too deep for their own good. And when Ron Paul initiates arbitration so that he does not get robbed, in the only way available to him and THE WAY THE SITE OWNERS AGREED TO WHEN THEY REGISTERED THE DOMAIN, these “supporters” start badmouthing him, claiming he called in the UN, claiming that he is against the free market because he expects people to honor their contracts, and trying to create a new smear that the media can use to fight the only man who is making a difference in the fight against tyranny.

    Meanwhile, they greedily continue to peddle swag emblazoned with the image of the man they are calling a hypocrite and whose reputation they are trying to damage.

    You are not supporters at all. Shame on you. You would just as soon help what you call “the enemy” if it meant more profits for you.”

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    1. maxjacob

      It’s the nature of the free market – an amoral beast, and necessarily so. Roll your eyes and move on. Or call for regulation and UN meddling.

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  5. Conan the Barbarian

    I note you are selling all sorts of Ron Paul stuff.

    1. How much did you sell over 5 years

    2. What commission did Ron Paul get from your sales over those 5 years?

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    1. maxjacob

      Hey, it’s the free market, people. It can be ugly sometimes. Know what you stand for.

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      1. Liberty4All

        Copyright & trademarks may still exist in a free market. Know what you stand for.

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        1. maxjacob

          No, not in a strictly free market, but yes in a gently regulated one.

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  6. Mike

    You can’t confiscate a website because you don’t like the name belonging to someone else. If this is allowed there will be two sets of rules, one for the politicians and one for us. We’ll have to wait and see.

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  7. Marc de Piolenc

    Very sad. If this is true, then RP is violating his own principles, something he has never done before, no matter what the enticement. I can’t help wondering if this is some kind of hoax.

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  8. Robert

    A lot of people warned that, LRC not withstanding, Paul is no Libertarian.

    Now–Let me point out 2 things that may help:

    1) Ron Paul said he welcomed independent efforts of his fans, and

    2) Paul also said he would exercise no control over them.

    He first started saying that at talks when that Ron Paul blimp appeared, remember?

    Sounds like he basically gave up any claims to me. Now he wants a buck?

    BTW, you can always turn this into a Ron Paul satire site…satire is protected, I believe under the SCOTUS MAD Magazine decision.

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  9. Nonpaul supporter

    I think they should give him the damn sites and then make an ANTI Ron Paul site. The guy is ungrateful for everything this site has done for him.

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  10. Nonpaul supporter

    Ron Paul preaches free enterprise yet when it’s not in his favor, he goes whining to the UN. LOL

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  11. Ces

    For years Ron Paul has worked hard to change the direction of this country. Without the great Dr. this site would have never existed. Handing over this site instead of throwing a fit would have made this movement stronger. I’m pretty sure Ron has big plans and his supporters should be supporting instead of holding him back and causing this nonsense.

    My 2 cents.

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  12. Joe Callan

    As Ron Paul’s veiled conservatism isn’t all that appealing to me, I have no dog in the fight here…but I do hope the admins read up on their UDRP docs. Unless one of *them* is named Ron Paul, this is already an uphill battle. Look up the publicly resolved UDRP cases and see if you can’t find a pretty slanted precedent against the current owners of RonPaul.com…

    And if we want to talk UDRP particulars: the above article might, in fact, be construed as evidence of knowledgeable and malicious bad faith.

    Lastly: when other people volunteer their time to causes, they typically don’t hand out a bill when it’s become clear that their cause has fizzled. Either you’re volunteering (meaning you don’t get to whine about all the time and money you put into something), or you’re a mercenary. And while there’s no shame in the latter, playing the squeaky-clean victim and crying about your opposition exercising common legal recourse is rather childish.

    Wanna hurt your pet cause? Keep it up!

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    1. Nonpaul supporter

      I think you completely missed the point.

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      1. Joe Callan

        By all means, explain to me how I missed the point when I’m commenting on UDRP procedurals that are all pretty relevant to what’s happening here.

        Maybe you’re upset that I could care less about the “OMG, RP hates the UN, but OMG he’s USING the UN to be mean to his supporters” false-dichotomy gotcha-journalism angle? Is that the razor-sharp point that sailed by me?

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    2. Wondering about Ron Paul

      Read the UDRP. Just because your name is the same as the domain name doesn’t entitle you to it unless you have a trademark or service mark. As an example, my name is ‘For Sale’ by a poacher in .com form. ICANN will not give me the domain name, even though the owner is clearly maintaining the name ‘in bad faith’ as the UDRP states. Even I register my name as a trademark, I MIGHT be able to get it, if I can prove that the previous owner received the name in bad faith, and not as the result of a legitimate transaction with someone else sharing my name. How many more Ron Paul’s are there in the world?

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  13. JoeCorrao

    ~ “we invested close to 10,000 hours of tears, sweat and hard work into this site at great personal sacrifice.”

    I believe Dr Paul has spent a bit more on it. You shoulda given him the domain name for free and started RonPaulstuff.com…

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  14. pete

    im interested in who the pussy is who thumbs down all FACTS & LOGIC, but somehow is a ron paul supporter??

    if you’re gonna THUMB DOWN FACTS, atleast reply and have a discussion. facts don’t go away, you can only make your self look more ignorant.

    Ron Paul has every right to ronpaul.com, and take it from these idiots. “Liberty Package”…..what, and where is this supposed “liberty”…..

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    1. Voyaging

      He has rights to a domain name that was legally registered by the owner of this site? Are you a fucking retard?

      Ron Paul is and always has been a scumbag and now the internet community who are so keen on sucking his dick at every possible moment are finally realizing it.

      Nice to see Paul going back on his free market principles for personal gain.

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  15. Ron will WIN!!!! WOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

    ron paul is going to win this case =)

    Ron Paul is on his way!!!!!!!!!!!

    This site will go from crappy to AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

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  16. John

    Continue all efforts to reach out to Dr. Paul directly. Assume there are many parasites still around him, trying to blunt his effectiveness and disenchant his followers. Remember the neocon Republicans planted many subversives in his organization to undermine his efforts and our enthusiasm. We saw some of these people in action during the primaries. There will be constant false flag operations.

    I’d also urge everyone else to reach out to Dr. Paul and ask him to personally get involved in this. Also, to take this opportunity to take a harder look at those around him who will try to exploit him for alternative causes.

    This is an important issue to establish a principled line that will not be crossed.

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  17. Jack

    What’s wrong should be made right; and I can only hope so also for the following:

    Calling any and all Patriots of good-will to assist fight against ongoing infringements on our Constitutional rights and protections, rule of law, due process etc., regarding federal oversight and mandates to protect our citizens from wrongful foreclosure and comply with the Protecting Homeowners/Tenants at Foreclosure Act.

    Especially in Georgia, which is 6th highest in foreclosures, 6th most impoverished state, and 6th highest for no protection or assistance for its citizens.

    FNMA, bailed out and now bought out with our taxes continues to abuse fed mandates, law and its own written policies. Their servicers and leasing companies force people into foreclosure and then do not allow them to be priority buyer or provide the term of lease according to law.

    Even if you can only direct me and others in who to contact. I have tried any state agency that should be able and have the obligation to help. That includes agencies up to the atty. general, which referred me to the DOJ; still nothing.

    “I ask for, not at once no government, but at once a better government”
    Henry David Thoreau

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    1. Nonpaul supporter

      You don’t know Jack. LOL

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  18. Jordan Parsons

    When the current owners of this site, registered and purchased the domain name RonPaul.com and other various ‘RonPaul’ domain types, they agreed (ignorantly) to a contract. This contract in so many words states that when registering a domain name, you are saying that the domain name itself doesn’t infringe on the rights of a third party and that you agree to arbitration if the said third party, submits a claim which is explained within a policy called Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP). Examples of some claims include bad-faith and mark infringement (which is what Ron Paul states within his UDRP claim).

    The reason why he’s going to the UN (the WIPO agency more specifically) for this is because ICANN has authorized them to perform certain services for individuals with regards to domain names, one including submitting arbitration services. Considering Ron Paul has met the the criteria of common law trademark rights and Ron Paul is the owner of the Ron Paul U.S. trademark, then he’s following the correct (and required) process in filing a complaint and has complete legal standing to do so.

    The people that registered RonPaul.com apparently didn’t read the ICANN policies associated with registering a domain name or else they would have known that RonPaul.com and the other various flavors of RonPaul[dot]whatever, effective the date of registration, falls under the UDRP and is subject to all requirements that were agreed upon. The registers’ voluntary agreement to the contract set forth within the ICANN and UDRP is free market at it’s best; which any true libertarian should be grateful for. If it had been a government entity that governed ICANN like they did in the past, they’d probably be thrown in jail and slapped with many felony charges, including being sued for an outlandish amount of money.

    Ron Paul isn’t doing anything nasty here. He’s not even going after them for money, or attempting to sue for damages, etc…he’s simply asking them for the domain names that are rightfully his via the contract the registers’ agreed to when registering the domain names applicable to the RonPaul trademark.

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    1. Liberty4All

      Very well put.

      Something you said really deserves highlighting; ‘Ron Paul isn’t doing anything nasty here. He’s not even going after them for money, or attempting to sue for damages, etc’

      He could easily sue them. They’ve made thousands of merchandise and ad revenue. He simply wants the domain name, as he wishes to have his own personal site. He’s withdrawn from politics as an elected rep, but wishes to continue spreading his message. We should be glad Ron wants to get more involved in social media & have his own site with a perfectly logical domain name.

      Hell, we shouldn’t even be pleased with this ‘media coverage’. Being supporters of Dr. Paul, do we really want Fox spewing rhetoric about this story?

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    2. Jordan Parsons

      @Liberty4All – Thanks! :)

      @The individual who disagreed with my post – you apparently disagree with facts being presented.

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      1. Christina

        Right on Jordan! Well said!

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    3. Friend of the Libertarian Party

      I agree. ronpaul.com had a good run and now they should give Ron his domain name. If I was running site I would be glad to hand it over for free. Maybe Ron would give them a link to their new site on this new home page in return. This is the same thing that happened with diablo3.com. A fansite owned the domain for 10 years and when blizzard came out with the game, the owners of the domain gave it to blizzard in return for a new domain paid for by blizzard and a link to their new domain on the diablo3.com official site. What more could you want?

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  19. Christina

    All I have to say is offer how much you paid for the website after you Take out the money you made selling his merchandise… And sell it for what is left.. If not he could also be cruel and sue you for profit on what you sold…. And when I signed up…. I didn’t agree on you people selling my damn info to anyone. How much are you gonna pay me to sell my info?? See this opens many doors…. And I think the best thing to do is… Give him the name.. It’s his.. You can’t say it isn’t his. Proof it is his is the merchandise you sale.. It has Ron Paul all over it… And not just any Ron Paul either…

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    1. Nonpaul supporter

      You have no idea how much it costs to run a website, yet you spew your lies like you know something. Ha.

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      1. Christina

        Oh I think I know @ nonpaul supporter.. My husband runs one… Thanks. Assuming is a bad thing… Just saying.

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  20. Liberty4All

    Ron Paul did not “Call on the United Nations”, to “confiscate” RonPaul.com! Ron Paul has used the trademark “Ron Paul” for over 30 years to market his books and has taken the first step in correcting gross violations of trademark infringement according the to regulations that RonPaul.com agreed to when they registered their domain.

    A Deeper Look in to Ron Paul vs. RonPaul.com
    http://www.dailypaul.com/274115/a-deeper-look-in-to-ron-paul-vs-ronpaulcom

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    1. Bo Dourif

      He filed a complaint with WIPO, a body of the UN, to confiscate the URL and turn it over to him. Please read the story.

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      1. Liberty4All

        That’s not correct. The domain owner’s are registered in Panama, so this case is an international one. Also, ICANN requires consent to its ‘Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy’ when domain names are registered. Consequentially, in doing so the owners also agreed to subject themselves to the authority of the UN & WIPO.

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  21. Friend of the Libertarian Party

    It appears that Ron Paul is trying to retreat from the limelight and distance himself from his “extreme” libertarian fan base. Probably because Rand Paul will soon be gearing up for a more “mainstream” and “legitimate” run for the Presidency in 2016 on the Republican ticket.

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    1. Liberty4All

      The Fed’s the problem with its unconstitutioal power to create money and credit out of thin air. The eventual consequences are many fold:
      1] value of the $ -down
      2] price go up
      3] gold up
      4] silver up
      5] interest rates up
      6] economy down
      7] Prosperity down
      8] gov. spending up
      9] national debt up
      10] more war
      11] greater welfare
      12] more regulations
      13] stocks down
      14] political stalemates increase
      15] civil unrest
      16] loss of liberty

      These events do not occur suddenly or necessarily all together. The movement of each accelerates, and in conjunction with each other, as the climatic end approaches.

      HAPPY ENDING= A succesful re3VOLution

      Stay tuned! REP
      -his words from Facebook

      Sorry, that doesn’t sound like retreating. Also, him wanting to use ronpaul.com as a domain name goes directly against what you are saying; he wants a site, because he doesn’t want to retreat. He’s discussed streaming, social media, and getting more involved on the internet.

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      1. Friend of the Libertarian Party

        I agree with what you are saying, but Rand Paul will be making a run and I guarantee you he will want to distance himself from what the die-hard right-wingers see as “extreme” in order to appease the Republican base and get votes.

        I personally think Ron Paul should have stayed with the Libertarian Party instead of going Republican. I don’t agree with the whole “take over the Republican Party from the inside” business. Republican is a tarnished brand at this point.

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        1. Liberty4All

          I had issue with you lumping Ron in with Rand. Sure, that’s a legitimate claim on Rand’s potential upcoming actions. However, you did state, ‘It appears that Ron Paul….’ I was simply arguing that Ron didn’t do what you were claiming he did, and his desired future actions run contrary to that claim.

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          1. Friend of the Libertarian Party

            They are father and son. They are going to be “lumped together” whether they want to be or not. I’m sure father will do whatever is necessary to help son get elected.

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          2. Liberty4All

            You’re not following.

            I had issue with your statement of, ‘It appears that Ron Paul is trying to retreat from the limelight and distance himself from his “extreme” libertarian fan base.’ I went on to outline why that statement isn’t true.

            Them being father and son, being lumped together, doing what is needed to get son elected etc. isn’t relevant to the point you made. Me referencing them being lumped together was only aimed at your statement, not this lumping together on a wider scale.

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  22. AL

    “Let’s take a look at this situation. The owners of ronpaul.com for a long time have been cashing in on ad revenue because their site is the first result on a Google search of Ron Paul. In addition they have been collecting email addresses by asking for them while appearing like Ron Paul’s official site (possibly to sell them later as email lists are very valuable to political hacks).

    They have been profiting by selling mass quantities of T-shirts, hoodies, mugs, bumper stickers etc. emblazoned with the good doctor’s name and likeness, while not compensating him in any way.

    And now, when the man they have made all their money off of comes calling, they spit in his face by trying to sell him HIS OWN NAME for $850,000, quickly lowering it to $250,000 when they realize they may have gouged a bit too deep for their own good. And when Ron Paul initiates arbitration so that he does not get robbed, in the only way available to him and THE WAY THE SITE OWNERS AGREED TO WHEN THEY REGISTERED THE DOMAIN, these “supporters” start badmouthing him, claiming he called in the UN, claiming that he is against the free market because he expects people to honor their contracts, and trying to create a new smear that the media can use to fight the only man who is making a difference in the fight against tyranny.

    Meanwhile, they greedily continue to peddle swag emblazoned with the image of the man they are calling a hypocrite and whose reputation they are trying to damage.

    You are not supporters at all. Shame on you. You would just as soon help what you call “the enemy” if it meant more profits for you.”
    -previous comment

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  23. Kyle Spencer

    You did nothing wrong here. Fight this. Good luck!

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  24. Brendan

    Ron Paul never truly thought he would get elected. The principles he ranted about were just to get his supporters riled up, give him money and pay his family. The use of the UN as a means of stealing a domain from someone who was first in time to buy it and maintain it is his true opinions coming through.

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  25. Marcy

    This is a bizarre argument to me. Nobody “bought Ron Paul’s name,” they bought the domain name RonPaul.com. As far as owning domains, that is fair. If any of you have ever tried to create a website and build an email list, it is incredibly difficult and takes so much sweat and tears. For someone to try to take that without even a thank you or an offer to compensate in some way for the dedication and time spent on it, is entitled and unfair.

    Being a celebrity doesn’t make you above the laws. The domain name for my name is taken, does that make me entitled to it? No. If he doesn’t like what’s being posted about him, that’s another matter. If he thinks they are committing some sort of fraud or slander, that’s another. But for just using his domain name, I don’t see a case.

    I hope there’s some kind of compensation offered and an acknowledgement of their effort.

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    1. Damon Wilson

      This article and claim that Ron Paul is suing and requesting the rights to ronpaul.com and ronpaul.org appears to be fake.

      After reading through the paperwork it clearly states that Ron Paul is STILL a Representative for the 14th District.. It is dated February 7 2013.. That is odd because Ron Paul was no longer a Representative for over a month now. His last day in office was January 3rd 2013.

      See how the media will run with anything.

      Lawyer: J Douglas Cuthbertson, Alexandria VA, supposed representative of Ron Paul in the case, has no media associated with Ron Paul before this article.

      Why would he hire someone in DC, he no longer has to travel there.

      DIG PEOPLE DIG!

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    2. Brendan

      Thank you! This is like buying land, they were first to acquire the domain and maintain it. You can’t copyright a name, and the protection for the use of public figures images is very broad in this country. Obama can’t ask for money every time you sell a picture of him for example, it doesn’t work the same as it would for celebrities, etc.

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    3. Jordan Parsons

      @Brendan and Marcy,

      You both appear, unfortunately, to not know anything about domain registration/internet law that is governed under ICANN. When the current owners of this site, registered and purchased the domain name RonPaul.com and other various ‘RonPaul’ domain types, they agreed (ignorantly) to a contract. This contract in so many words states that when registering a domain name, you are saying that the domain name itself doesn’t infringe on the rights of a third party and that you agree to arbitration if the said third party, submits a claim which is explained within a policy called Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP). Examples of some claims include bad-faith and mark infringement (which is what Ron Paul states within his UDRP claim).

      The reason why he’s going to the UN (the WIPO agency more specifically) for this is because ICANN has authorized them to perform certain services for individuals with regards to domain names, one including submitting arbitration services. Considering Ron Paul has met the the criteria of common law trademark rights and Ron Paul is the owner of the Ron Paul U.S. trademark, then he’s following the correct (and required) process in filing a complaint and has complete legal standing to do so.

      The people that registered RonPaul.com apparently didn’t read the ICANN policies associated with registering a domain name or else they would have known that RonPaul.com and the other various flavors of RonPaul[dot]whatever, effective the date of registration, falls under the UDRP and is subject to all requirements that were agreed upon. The registers’ voluntary agreement to the contract set forth within the ICANN and UDRP is free market at it’s best; which any true libertarian should be grateful for. If it had been a government entity that governed ICANN like they did in the past, they’d probably be thrown in jail and slapped with many felony charges, including being sued for an outlandish amount of money.

      Ron Paul isn’t doing anything nasty here. He’s not even going after them for money, or attempting to sue for damages, etc…he’s simply asking them for the domain names that are rightfully his via the contract the registers’ agreed to when registering the domain names applicable to the RonPaul trademark.

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      1. Marcy

        Hi Jordan,

        I appreciate your intelligent and informed response. It leaves me with a question, however. My point is not that the content in the site is ok, its that anyone has rights to a domain name.

        So, legally speaking how does anyone named Ron Paul, for example have precedence over someone else with the same name for a domain name? I could see why someone using images or content for him may get in trouble (I don’t know the laws on that), but what I don’t understand is how anyone can have ownership over a domain name.

        Legality aside, I think its ungrateful and disrespectful, for someone to not thank and work cooperatively with people who dedicated themselves to supporting him. At least to respond and acknowledge them.

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  26. Damon Wilson

    This article and claim that Ron Paul is suing and requesting the rights to ronpaul.com and ronpaul.org appears to be fake.

    After reading through the paperwork it clearly states that Ron Paul is STILL a Representative for the 14th District.. It is dated February 7 2013.. That is odd because Ron Paul was no longer a Representative for over a month now. His last day in office was January 3rd 2013.

    See how the media will run with anything.

    Lawyer: J Douglas Cuthbertson, Alexandria VA, supposed representative of Ron Paul in the case, has no media associated with Ron Paul before this article.

    Why would he hire someone in DC, he no longer has to travel there.

    DIG PEOPLE DIG!

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  27. Gerard

    I think Ron Paul DOT com is a political entity consisting of a movement, and is not an attempt at identity theft, which is the essential basis of Paul’s complaint. And if Mr. Paul does want his ‘intellectual property’ back, he will have to reimburse everyone who worked on the site with his knowledge and consent, given that he evidently believed all along that the site was his property, or business. I am not a lawyer.

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  28. Edward

    “He’s probably not even aware of this dispute; he should get involved and do what he thinks is right. (30%, 444 Votes)”
    ———-
    RonPaul.com folks…I am on your side…but come on, how could you have put this as an option on the poll?

    You really think it’s possible Ron Paul is not aware of this?

    Unless someone forged his signature and his daughter’s signature and used his daughter’s notary stamp…Ron Paul is definitely involved….See Page 30 of the complaint

    http://www.ronpaul.com/images/Annexes.pdf

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  29. Dave Head

    Dear dummies:

    Ron Paul is NOT stealing the website (as some of you keep claiming). All he wants is the domain name (blank; with no content). The people behind ronpaul.com still get to keep all their content & merchandise & can continue doing business at some other location. They lose nothing

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  30. Nonpaul supporter

    I just want to know if the owner’s of this site will still support Paul if he takes it away from them?

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  31. Andy

    The owners of ronpaul.com sure aren’t looking like supporters; instead, they look greedy for money. Essentially, they are willing to create a potential hit piece due to greed.

    You’ve already made thousands of the Dr.’s name. You asking for 850k really reveals your true colours.

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    1. Edward

      They deny asking for 850K

      250K is the only offer they have made so far

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  32. Nonpaul supporter

    It’s called Payback is Hell.

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  33. Chris

    Tim Martin and Staff, I think greed just go the best of you. You should have offered Ron the domain for free, the product inventory at cost and your continued services to ronpul.com for a salary. But I don’t think that you can make this kind of offer now. All you can do now is fight or concede, I recommend the later because you loose either way. If Ron sets up shop somewhere else who is going to come here for second hand information. You might of had a great opportunity to move forward. If you needed money to help pay for the transfer you should have started a fund raiser so the ronpaul.com community could help make that happen. Good Luck!

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    1. Nonpaul supporter

      Paul is going to have to pay someone else to run the site. And I’m sure that wont’ be cheap and can they do as good of a job? Why doesn’t he stop being cheap and help those who helped him? These people need to make a living too. They don’t freeload off the govt like Paul did for 4o y ears.

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  34. Nonpaul supporter

    Paul pulled a Palin an went rogue on your ass. lol

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  35. Nonpaul supporter

    Ron Paul is a taker who just wants to live off other people and wants the UN to help him do his dirty work. Guess you know what he’s really like now, and will be a little more careful of whom you support? You couldstill create a site called nonpaul.com.

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