Audit the Federal Reserve

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1. 
   David

   July 29, 2010 at 12:33 pm | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

   Posted on the sound money blog and equally applicable here.
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   David
   July 28, 2010 at 6:31 pm | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

   Okay, well i finally managed to make some time to get on here, and it seems we currently have “Forest” on here whom our banks have sent to us, who seems to be spending 24 / 7 in front of the computer desperately trying to counter each and every anti banking post on here in defense of his beloved banks and not presenting any viable arguments as to how their continued existence could possibly be of benefit to anyone other than themselves, with his single and only follower being “fred the protectionist” LOL. Anyway, here are some of the indisputable facts about banking, which he will try to argue and dispute, but which absolutely anyone with even half an ounce of brains, common sense and reason must acknowledge to be true, despite any cockamamy lies and fairy tales they might try to invent in their defense.

   Fact 1;

   Banking is not a business, it’s a criminal practice. It is simple theft and fraud, which is made legal simply and only because of the power they have established over our political system to keep it so.

   Legitimate business consists of providing another person with something of tangible value that they can actually use, in return for payment, and any means of making money other than this is simple theft and fraud and can be nothing else. Banks make their money by controlling and manipulating the national currency, which is an essential public commodity that doesn’t belong to them in the first place, provide absolutely nothing of any tangible benefit to anyone, and simply exist as parasites on the backs of the people doing so and who are engaged in legitimate business.

   Alvie makes some good statements about how they purposely complicate every aspect of the economic system so that no one will be able to understand it and create so much confusion that there’s no possible way for the average person to understand what is being done to them. There is absolutely no need for any form of complication, confusion, or deception in any legitimate business transaction, nor in any legitimate economic system either, but in the case of a thief, fraud and scam artist there certainly is, as the only way he can make money is to steal it from people or deceive them into giving it to him without providing anything in return. In other words, banking.

   What does a thief do ? he takes something for nothing from someone against their will. What does a fraud do ? he convinces people to give him something for nothing with a lie. What do banks, or any other form of “financial service” do ? they do both.

   Fact 2;

   An economy which tolerates any form of banking system is unsustainable.

   This is like tolerating a tapeworm in your intestines. If private banks have control of our currency and credit system as they do today, owning our primary means of exchange, introducing currency into the system as debt a progressively removing more than they put in through interest. This enables them to accumulate progressively more and more of the nations wealth, at the expense of those contributing toward its useful production, which also enables them to establish power and control over our political system, buy ownership and control in the corporations they sponsor and kill independent business in competition with them, thus ensuring that all will serve their interests against those of the population which control by this point is pretty much absolute. In the end it becomes necessary to establish a socialist police state, abrogate any and all freedoms for the population in order to maintain the power over them to prevent them from posing a threat to that power, and make the people themselves the property of the state and the banks that control it.

   The bottom line here, is that every dollar they make is a dollar made at the expense of the population, and is used to buy ever more ownership and control over the countries wealth and establish ever more political power to the extent where they finally own and control everything, including the people themselves, and by now these are into the multiple trillions per annum with all the mortgage, security and government bailout scams, so its been happening fast. They’ve actually managed to crash the economy 10 years sooner than i or most others would have inticipated, and things can only get worse instead of better under the status quo.

   This is the single and only possible and eventual outcome of tolerating a banking system, and is the point we are approaching today as well. If people tolerate the parasite in their intestines, and don’t take measures to kill it and get it out of their system, it will simply keep growing and growing until it consumes so much of their sustenance that they are no longer capable of feeding both it and themselves, just as it already has, and the only possible outcome is that they will not survive. There simply is not and cannot be any other possible outcome. Until now the Banks have done a very good job of lying to people and convincing them that the parasite is an essential part of their systems and that they will die without it, but by now they are sick and weak enough where they are all beginning to realize this is not the case, and i just hope that they can get organized to do what they need to in order to kill the parasite before it destroys them completely, as if they don’t, it certainly will. If so it will be a very simple and easy thing to do, and no matter how sick they are, if they all do it, they can and they will and their health will be very quickly restored. Far beyond anything they have ever experienced too as no one living today has existed without the parasite before.

   Fact 3;

   Banks are responsible for every single ounce of unnecessary suffering, hardship and misery that has been inflicted on humanity since the existence of banking, which is about 95 % of it as well. The vast majority of populations in this world, are perfectly capable of creating more than enough for themselves, given simply a consistent, reliable and adequate means to facilitate trade with each other and allow them to benefit from each others efforts. Every single economic recession / depression or whatever you want to call them, which has created hardship and poverty and misery for virtually any population has not been due to a lack of their ability to produce and sustain themselves, but due to a lack of that artificial means of trade that they need to trade with each other and do so for
   their collective benefit, which each and every time, has been caused by artificial manipulation of that currency by banks in their own interests, with the objective of establishing power to the extent where there will be no trade or sustenance except through them, and in the end creating the socialist police state necessary to secure and maintain that power permanently. We have pretty much every other country in the world as an example of this by now, America is the last one on the list, and its happening here as we speak.

   Solution;

   Very simple, abolish any form of private banking, and eliminate money as a form of business as it is not, cannot be, and never should have been, as business involves trade of useful goods and services only. Make money serve its only useful function and issue currency and credit as a public service managed by and for the population it is intended to service, where its only possible use is to facilitate and maximize legitimate trade and production for the benefit of the population it serves and establish a very simple, consistent, reliable, common and well regulated system where the money will remain in place and in circulation, and can be further injected as needed in order to pay for the full extent of our full capacity to provide. For the Austrian economists among us, allow competing currencies as well, definitely, which also should be part and parcel of a “free” economy, but we do need a standard and common means of exchange to facilitate efficient trade which can and will always reflect our full production capacity. This is what i want to get paid in when i sell something as this i something with which i can pay anyone else for anything else as well, and if someone wants to save or establish security, then convert to gold, silver or better still some useful, disposable, and tangible asset. Establishing security isn’t the function of money, only facilitating trade, and confusing these functions has been the means to creating a lot of our problems as well.

   Can and will this work ? Well this has been the single and only thing in history which has ever been demonstrated to generate any form of abundant prosperity for any country or general population, per: the discussion provided in the following link.

   It’s about time the American People force the creation of this for themselves, and take responsibility for doing this by and for themselves, instead of abrogating that responsibility to thieves, cheats and scam artists they can’t trust, as they always have in the past. I’m just very glad that so many are starting to realize this now too. It gives us a chance, and gives the rights and freedoms guaranteed by the great men who established our country and its constitution to a chance to survive as well, so that our lives can once again exist in the pursuit of happiness and not in slavery to a bank.

   Anyway, there’s been many things posted on this subject here and on other blogs, but i think one of the best discussions of things and how they could work took place recently at the following link, so anyone who’s curious as to what the potential and possible outcome might be, can go there and read for themselves and the American population. Anyone who has any potentially useful ideas in addition to whats been posted there and elsewhere should contribute them as well, as it will take everyone contributing what they can in order to create a simple, honest, effective, and viable system which will work best toward everyone’s benefit. It has to be done from scratch without retaining any of the theft and fraud that make the current system unsustainable, which basically constitutes the entire current system (we have to scrap the old machine and build a completely new one in its place as there is not a single component on the old one that can be made to function). Then get rid of the current politicians existing in service to and put in power by the banks, and establish a government “by the people, of the people and for the people” to facilitate making it happen.

   http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-07-09/majority-of-americans-believe-obama-is-a-socialist/comment-page-3/#comment-115818

   The American revolution was organized by the colonial governments which at that point were “by the people, of the people and for the people” and will be again once the power that prevents it from being so is destroyed, and the people supported their effort because it was in their interest. Since we now have government “by the banks, for the banks and of the banks” instead, it will have to be the people themselves who organize and co-operate with each other in the rebellion (economic or otherwise) first, and then re-create such a government as they had at that time to act for their own interest and benefit. They’re angry enough to do it, they know they have to do it, and we need the efforts of absolutely everyone who agrees with this to give them the information (the problems and viable solutions), and the organization in order to do it as well.

   As usual and as with everything else, copy paste and forward, get these things into circulation as we need to do. This must piss off Forest, Fred, The other David, and all the other good little communists which our banking industry is sending around to try and defend them, to no end, as were still able to do this because their precious banks haven’t established control over the internet yet to prevent us from doing this, which hence is the source of their fear as well, so lets do it while we still can and before they do. There is absolutely nothing they can do about it either, except to bitch, complain, lie and criticize, and i absolutely love that LOL.

   Lets get it done and soon too. I don’t want to be dealing with this, i’m sick and tired of having to deal with this, but we do need to be dealing with this and keep on dealing with this until we can kill the problem before it kills us. Then we can get back to spending our lives doing something fun, productive and useful for our own and everyone else’s benefit as well. We simply have no other option.

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   AlvieC

   July 28, 2010 at 12:14 pm | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

   Somebody has been reading modern money mechanic. Cool.
   So what happened to Executive Order 11110?

   Executive Order 11110 AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289

   AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY

   By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:

   Section 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended-

   By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):

   (j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12,1933, as amended (31 U.S.C.821(b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denomination of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption

   and —

   By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.

   Sec. 2. The amendments made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.

   John F. Kennedy The White House, June 4, 1963

   Isn’t it still on the books?

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3. 
   Ross

   July 28, 2010 at 8:07 am | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

   Would you let your neighbor steal from you,then loan this money back to at interest and then be greatful for being shafted?

   Well this is what the fractional reserve system of banking does to all people on this planet.The fractional reserve system of banking allows banks to create 9 times the amount of money in the form of loans, as they have deposits in their accounts.Some of this new money ends up in bank accounts thus creating more inflation.

   Prior 2008 the yearly average inflation rate was 3.5%. Inflation compounds like interest, so that every 10 yrs you lose 41% of the value of your currency.Who creates all this new money?If individuals do it,it is called counterfeiting.Today banks do it in their computers and create it as debt to be loaned at interest.Banks steal by devaluing our currencies though inflation.

   Ron Paul has noted that since the inception of the US Fed in 1913,the US $ in 96 yrs has lost 96% of its value.Here we see the compounding effects of inflation via the frational reserve banking system.The US Fed over 96 yrs has diluted the value of the dollar by 25 times.You can see why they are so powerful and rich, while many Americans languish in poverty.

   Money has no intrinsic worth.It represents the productivity of people.By letting international banksters create your money,they then own your productivity which they then loan back to you at interest.This is why there is so much debt.

   Also,as cash was replaced by credit cards,our Govts create very little currency thus giving more of our productivity to the banksters to given back to us as debt.

   There are a few ways to stop this theft by stealth.Put a tax on the fractional reserve system of banking,or get your own national banks owned by the people,or go to a precious metal based currency.

   The US currency should be owned by the US Govt ,not a private goup of banks called the US Federal Reserve.

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   1. 
      David

      July 28, 2010 at 10:10 pm | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

      Absolutely wonderful Ross, and your speaking my mind as well as that of the American People.

      http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/fiat-money-inflation-federal-reserve/comment-page-10/#comment-120378

      That’s my latest on the subject and yours is identical as well.

      Forrest, Fred, The Other David and all of the other stupid little dweebs and sycophants whom our banking system has sent here to try to defend them, read it and weep, and then get out of America as fast as you can before we “Real Mericans” as you call us, start rounding you up, seizing your assets, and putting you on trial for your treason against us.

      Ross, get on the sound money blog and help us make this happen, its good to have you with us

      Everyone else, copy, paste and forward Ross’s post to everyone and anyone you can, get it into circulation where it can work for us.

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4. 
   William A. Barnett

   July 23, 2010 at 9:49 am | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

   Might have gone differently, if I had been asked to testify, based on my real expertise on the subject. I am now writing a book on the subject for MIT Press. It will be available in late 2011. The book title in the contract with MIT Press is “Getting it Wrong: How Faulty Monetary Statistics Undermine the Fed.” Oxford University Press and Cambridge University Press also wanted the book, but I’ve signed the contract with MIT Press. I was on the staff of the Federal Reserve Board for 8 years, am a leading authority on economic measurement, and have written on the subject in the New York Times and extensively in professional publications, including over 130 journal articles and 20 books. Expertise is not relevant to the Congress in making its decisions?

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   rakko

   July 22, 2010 at 10:36 pm | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

   So, our dollar is NOT worthless since the paper, ink, and process costs a bit more per article. Glad you agree.

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      Chrisballs

      July 23, 2010 at 9:12 am | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

      Touche’, you arse. lol, and sure, we use it for trade. We can “buy” milk and such with it but, it really has no “value” backing it. Only what the FED tricks us to think it is worth.

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         fred the protectionist

         July 23, 2010 at 9:16 am | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

         Them tricky jewish FEDS, always up to no good.

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   rakko

   July 22, 2010 at 5:11 pm | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

   Our dollar is not worthless. It is and always will be worth the paper it’s printed on.

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      Chrisballs

      July 22, 2010 at 5:38 pm | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

      Sorry, it’s not. A dollar is worth around twenty-something cents. The paper, ink, and process costs a bit more per article. You could say; it literally IS worthless. (Say, twenty something pennies, before stamped out of steel, are worth more than the almighty buck.).
      On top of that, the Federal Reserve Note is NOT a “dollar” to begin with. Not by any definition but, only by slang.

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      1. 
         Christine

         July 22, 2010 at 6:37 pm | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

         Could you say then, that some folks are working 2-3 jobs for nothing? that our homes are worth way way way less than we think they are? that our value as far as our paycheck is concerned is way way way less than we think it is?

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         1. 
            Chrisballs

            July 22, 2010 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

            Well actually Christine, my dear, yes.
            For argument’s sake, for that matter; who’s home? (referring to home values) If you look at your mortgage agreement, it most likely reads you are a tenant. I would think that would mean that it isn’t “your” home. You only “rent” it? How could that be? To go further, what is property tax? It certainly isn’t apportioned. So it isn’t “constitutional”? It is a permanent, government lien isn’t it? How can the gov. have a lien on your home, if you “own” it?
            Don’t forget now, there is certainly a difference between “property” and “real estate” as well. Banks foreclose on “real estate” and swindle the owner out of the property.

            Get to the root of all this crap; “THERE IS NO MONEY”. It hasn’t existed for almost ninety years.
            That is the whole reason why “audit the fed” failed. I’d have loved to have seen it succeed however, it would reveal the truth. As you must know by now, a foreign entity holds America in receivership. Our labor, our taxes, our “money” has been pledged to keep the lie alive and well.
            If Ron Paul actually became president, he is only to be the administrator (note; “administration”?) for the bankruptcy. We be broke and we perpetuate a lie that the Fed and IMF use to trade with what were once other sovereign countries. Once they foolishly accept the FED NOTE, it’s all down hill from there. If they don’t take the FED NOTE, we start wars with them.
            A lot of other countries are trying to get away from the FED NOTE because they realize it has no backing but, it’s too late, they are already whoring it.

            Wait till people find out that they can’t own gold! hahahaha, that’ll suck. All those investments,? all those investments, gonzo, and, now that gold sellers are going to have to 1099 you if you buy physical gold, the gov. will know where to go to confiscate it.

            Remember that whole “don’t have or use a social security number non-sense”? Just like a driver’s license, you can only be guilty of speeding if you have one. You are a fed employee if you have a SS and, you cannot have gold, it was confiscated by executive order and, will be again. You SS number registered it as an asset of the gov. for receivership.

            I’ll bet Larry can clarify it better…….I’m four Heinekens into my evening and am ranting. I have some lightning bugs to catch with my kids.

            “Forgive them not. For they know what they do.”

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         2. 
            Larry L. Stuler

            July 23, 2010 at 10:27 am | Permalink

            Nearly everything that the gov’t is doing now is under the foreign commerce clause. Most people are of the opinion that the gov’t is trampling on the Constitution by passing laws for which the gov’t has no jurisdiction, but it’s just the opposite. The gov’t is quite aware of its limited jurisdiction.
            When the gov’t was bankrupted (title 11 USC, “Bankruptcy”, is implemented by title 11 CFR, “Federal Elections”, so you are simply voting for a bankruptcy “administration”) in the 1930’s there was still more needed to make an American pay the interest on the FED’s funny money loans to the gov’t.
            Social Security was created to destroy American sovereignty. The “Form SS-5″ is an employment form. You became a federal employee by applying for a S.S.#. You’ve heard the name of the federal employee a thousand times – the “taxpayer”. “Taxpayer” is a legal term defined at 26 CFR 2.1-1(a)(5) as a member of the Merchant Marine.
            By checking the box labeled “U.S. citizen” you gave the gov’t prima facie evidence that you have U.S. possession citizenship. “U.S. citizen” is also a legal term exemplified at 26 CFR 25.2501-1(c) as a person born in one of the States who then establishes a residence in a U.S. possession (Puerto Rico is used in the example) and, further, acquires U.S. possession citizenship (this is the 14th Amendment citizen).
            The U.S. possessions are treated as foreign countries in the Code (see 26 U.S.C. section 865(i)(3), section 872(b)(7), and section 2014(g) for examples) so a “U.S. citizen” is a foreigner.
            The combination of the legal terms “taxpayer” and “U.S. citizen” is another legal term – the “U.S. resident”.
            So by an American applying for a S.S.# all sovereignty has been unknowingly waived.
            FICA and the self-employment taxes are U.S. possession taxes (title 26 USC sec. 7655).
            Your school property taxes are directed to “Resident”. A sovereign American can not be taxed on his own property, but a foreigner can be taxed.
            The Census Bureau questionnaire was addressed to “RESIDENT”. The Census Bureau is within the Dept of Commerce. Title 15 USC, “Commerce and Trade”, is implemented by title 15 CFR, “Commerce and Foreign Trade”.
            The gov’t has been granted jurisdiction at Article I, section 8 over foreign commerce, interstate commerce, and trade with the Indians. The gov’t has been granted jurisdiction over its own possessions at Article IV, section 3.
            A “U.S. resident” is a total slave “legally”.
            Internal revenue is a subset of the customs. Customs gains revenue for the gov’t from importing duties from foreign countries. Internal revenue gains revenue for the gov’t from importing duties from the U.S. possessions – thus a source of “internal revenue”. The income tax only applies to collectors/assessors of “internal duties”. The Supreme Court ruled (Brushaber v. Union Pacific, Stanton v. Baltic Mining, Peck v. Lowe, etc.) that the gov’t always had the power to tax income and, further, that no new taxing power was granted to the gov’t by the 16th Amendment. Put both of these together – always had the power and no new power granted – means that the income being taxed must be within the gov’t’s already existing jurisdiction – it’s foreign commerce.
            Title 28 USC, “Judiciary and Judicial Procedure”, chapter 85, “District courts; jurisdiction”, lists the three commerce jurisdictions separately. The cite to section 1336, “Surface Board Transportation orders”, which was renamed from “Interstate Commerce Commission’s orders” in 1995, is the interstate commerce part of the commerce clause. The cite to section 1362, “Indian tribes”, is obviously the trade with the Indians part of the commerce clause. The cite to section 1340, “Internal revenue; customs duties” is the foreign commerce part of the commerce clause. The free, sovereign American has no nexus with the Federal government’s commerce jurisdiction.
            Go to LLSTULER.wordpress.com to see much more including evidence of docket tampering by the federal courts in order to avoid ruling on my brief that challenged the sufficiency of the IRS indictment – the hidden charge within an IRS indictment is that of being a “resident”. (This tampering is at http://wp.me/pCW6e-3g ).

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         3. 
            ChrisBalls

            July 23, 2010 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

            Thanks Larry.
            No, I hadn’t ordered your book yet about the Mississippi, by the way. On my list tho.
            Just got a reply post from;

            http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-21/poll-should-congress-abolish-the-federal-reserve/

            That was a blast from the past. Same stuff we were posting about last year. Check it out LLSTULER, care to comment on how to buy the rights back to our banking? Will they accept Fed Notes or does it have to be in gold?

            Thanks administrator for leaving those posts there.

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         4. 
            ChrisBalls

            July 23, 2010 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

            No what is even funnier tho,? Not many people filed a SS-5 form so, they are slaves by presumption. Not by their own signature but, only by ignorance or denial.

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      2. 
         David

         July 23, 2010 at 11:34 pm | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

         This is a great discussion.

         Rakko, simple statement which has motivated some great responses. Hehehehe, i guess once the paper is printed on it can’t be used for anything else, so is the paper then worthless or is it still worth the value of the paper ? i don’t know LOL

         Chris, your perception of currency is exactly what it is, simply and only an artificial means of exchange with no intrinsic value, which should exist simply and only to facilitate trade between a wide range of people and allow them to benefit from the goods and services that each of them create, and instead exists to buy power for banks and allow them to progressively accumulate ever more of a countries, and the worlds wealth until they have it all and there is nothing left for anyone else, which is the point we are reaching now.

         Christine, good questions, motivating a great response from Chris, which is a very simple and accurate definition of the way things really are that anyone could understand. Keep up the rants Chris, this stuff is valuable and if we can get enough things like this into circulation among the general population and often enough, that they can figure these things out for themselves, then maybe we can also motivate the mass public action that we need in order to kill the threat and the problem before it kills us. If we don’t, it will.

         Larry, thanks for posting the details backing all of this up.

         Keep it going and everyone else, copy paste and email this stuff to everyone you know and ask them to forward it on. Lets get it into circulation so it can start working.

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         1. 
            Larry L. Stuler

            July 24, 2010 at 9:55 am | Permalink

            The one thing that must be understood by everyone is that the gov’t and the courts are bound by the Constitution. When you get involved in a court action, it is the underlying law that is the basis. The gov’t and courts are playing word games (U.S. citizen, taxpayer, U.S. resident, etc. – see http://wp.me/pCW6e-3g for details) which have all the necessary connections to the underlying jurisdiction. The gov’t has jurisdiction over commerce in the foreign and interstate and Indian venues – Article I, section 8 of the Constitution. The gov’t owns its possessions – Article IV, section 3. And the gov’t has jurisdiction over its own employees.
            The income tax is a tax on the gov’t’s collectors/assessors of “internal duties”, which has now morphed (the Prohibition and its preplanned end) into the collection of importing duties within the possessions (the liqour laws were moved to the possessions after the Prohibition). See http://wp.me/pCW6e-4A for the actual Act of Congress that established the income tax.
            By applying (or as Chris has stated, by simply being assigned – I think that the gov’t tells new parents that they must apply for a S.S.# for any kid that they want to claim as a dependent) for a S.S.#, an American is now within the jurisdiction of the U.S. gov’t possession jurisdiction (by being considered a “U.S. citizen” with U.S. possession citizenship), the jurisdiction of foreign commerce (by being a “U.S. resident”, a “U.S. citizen” living in America), and the jurisdiction of being a federal employee (in the Merchant Marine – this is an extension of the War of 1812 where our merchant marine were being impressed into service for England).
            So what I’ve done is gone back into the legislative history and found the underlying Act of Congress that is the basis of nearly everything the gov’t is relying upon for its regulatory agencies. The Act of Congress approved on March 3, 1791, initiated “internal duties” in the U.S. It is the law that caused the Whiskey Rebellion – a tax on stills and the stills’ distillate. This is an unconstitutional Act because it lays a tax on intrastate commerce. This Act declared that these “internal duties” would be collected in the same manner and by the same people as those previously assigned to collect revenue in the importing taxes – the customs. This is why “internal revenue” is a subset of the customs. Without this law that initiated “internal duties”, there could be no income tax on the collectors/assessors of “internal duties”. Without an income tax, there could be no Social Security. Without this law there would be no gateway to foreign commerce in the surreptitious manner that the gov’t has used for over 200 years.
            I have challenged the constitutionality of this Act of Congress in a counterclaim that I made in my response to the gov’t’s complaint against me (I had five counts in the counterclaim, but the first count was just the challenge to constitutionality). The District Court told the gov’t that it had to respond immediately since this was not a suit against the gov’t (the gov’t gets to respond in 60 days in a suit action). However, the gov’t had no way to get around a constitutional challenge and so pleaded that I could not sue the gov’t. Since the original judge had already ruled that it wasn’t a suit, the chief judge had to step in to rule in the gov’t’s favor. The court failed to do its most solemn duty.
            I then filed an interlocutory appeal since the District Court failed to do its sworn duty. The Appellate Court should have simply treated this interlocutory appeal as a mandamus and told the District Court to do its job, but instead eventually ruled that they did not have jurisdiction to take an interlocutory appeal.
            After the courts sat on everything for another 7 months, the court finally ruled against me in a decision that simply denies the law. I now realize that they (the courts and the Dept of Justice) conspired against me in order to try to deny me my right of appeal. I am now trying to get them to issue the briefing schedule in my appeal. They all know that once the briefing schedule is issued that I will challenge the constitutionality directly.
            Once this is publicized enough a true sea change will occur. Without this Act of Congress that established “internal duties”, there will be no federal regulatory agencies with any jurisdiction over a sovereign American.
            Needless to say, I’m not popular with the Dept of Justice or the courts. But the law is on my side and its time for everything to come out into the open.
            Again, if I’m not simply preaching to the choir, go to LLSTULER.wordpress.com to see the entire scam.

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      3. 
         Larry L. Stuler

         July 28, 2010 at 4:30 pm | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

         Chrisballs,
         You asked about how to buy our rights back to banking. This referenced back to the “abolish the FED” comments. I spent some time reading those comments, most of which were yours – you’ve done a lot of thinking and studying.
         I hadn’t really thought about this issue, since I’m attacking the Social Security scam and I’m challenging the constitutionality of the Act of Congress that established “internal duties” in the U.S. (March 3, 1791).
         Here’s my first take on the issue. The entire federal gov’t bankruptcy is a fraud since the gov’t received nothing of any intrinsic value. Seems we need to just say “No” to the debt since it’s all based upon counterfeit money.
         Once enough people realize that applying for a S.S.# made them into federal employees (the “taxpayer” – a member of the Merchant Marine still being impressed into service for Great Britain) we simply quit the game. Without Social Security creating “taxpayers” to pay the interest on the counterfeit money loans, the FED would collapse.
         Once the courts have to sit in judicial review of the Act of Congress that initiated “internal duties”, there would be ATF or IRS. (The tax on liquor is an unconstitutional tax since it taxes an intrastate commerce activity). The ATF and IRS would be exposed as being part of the Customs Service and, therefore, operating surreptitiously under foreign commerce.
         Once everyone realizes what it means to be an American and the word games being employed by the gov’t (“taxpayer”, “U.S. citizen”, “U.S. resident”) we would automatically take back control of Congress.
         I think that is now just a numbers game. All Americans need to stand up and take back their sovereignty. The gov’t’s actions all reveal that it knows precisely the limited extent of its powers.
         If anyone else is reading this, then you can see all the actual laws that evidence everything above at LLSTULER.wordpress.com (and much, much more).

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         1. 
            ChrisBalls

            July 29, 2010 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

            I can’t tell you, however maybe you already realize, how many people kick and scream at any of this. Complete denial even with documented proof in the government’s own short hand.
            “Teaching” people the truth is very difficult. Wanna piss some one off,? lie to them. Want to really piss them off,? tell the truth.

            As far as the constitutionality of anything, the constitution must first apply.
            As you reveal; we are not party to the constitution or the Bill of Rights as a Merchant Marine (supposedly not party the the constitution at all but, another post…). You cannot pretend that the documents support you. As “un-constitutional” as the Social Security scam is, it doesn’t need to be otherwise. Those who participate in it willfully disregarded the constitution (albiet, unknowingly) and aligned them selves with a foreign power. It is as simple to understand as some one converting religions.
            SS isn’t constitutional and the “government” that brought it to life wasn’t either so, in reality, you really can’t petition the gov. about the constitutionality of SS if you participate in it. It’s no more constitutionally bound than you are at that point. If you don’t participate then, you have no need to petition any one about it.
            Similar to this, if I hadn’t bothered any one yet about it; Obama is NOT a president. Not only is he not qualified for this position (In my opinion, you know, Kenyan and all….lol. The debate rages on tho..) but factually, he wasn’t elected as “president”. Again, as you reveal; it is a bankruptcy administration.
            To the point; people trying to file suit against the gov. and Obama, contending that he can’t be president are wasting their time because, the obvious, he’s not. He is not a constitutional president therefore, any constitutional remedy you try to apply is without any merit.
            Like picketing Ford in front of a Toyota plant.
            He’s a symptom. Diagnose the disease.

            Which, by the way, if you stay “constitutional”, even if Barry was born in Hawaii, he still, constitutionally, couldn’t be pres.
            A functioning, constitutional government was not operating when Hawaii was inducted, Alaska neither. Ergo, Alaska and Hawaii did not get inducted into the Union “constitutionally” and are not part of the united states for/of America or, the union states. So he couldn’t be a natural, qualified “citizen” even so.

            Now, to the banksters; our CG (constitutional government) couldn’t sell us into slavery (damn that constitution) however, the slick willys created the DoC to do business and be a NCG (non-constit……). The NCG doesn’t have to adhere to the constitution but, as you point out, they have to be weary of what they reveal about how they operate. Someone might catch on.
            That brings me to the amazing realization that people in general, and the people in government, both, have lost so much sense of what’s going on. The people are believing what the gov. tells them, more and more, through indoctrination and propaganda but, in the same realm, the people in government committing the crimes don’t even really know what they are protecting (other than themselves) or lying about any more. So, they dance, brazenly close to constitutional lines. If you are paying attention, they cross it quite a bit. It just seems that no voice is getting it out, the truth is suppressed, the media is controlled and people are medicated. It very sad but, really funny at this point.

            Ah, but it gets even better, the “administration” is responsible for any debt it incurs. NOT the people. In plain language, any deficit increase by direction of any administration is THIER debt increase and they are required to “re-pay” it.
            That’ll fall under the research lines of buying our banking rights back. It’s in the contracts. the NCG DID get something in return, from the banks, not unlike what we get from SS.
            The NCG not the CG made the deal with the banks so, right out the gate, the whole transaction was unconstitutional and treasonous but, only if it was forced on free people. Well, as you know, it wasn’t “forced”. Maybe people were persuaded but, they did have a choice. Now for that reminder, it wasn’t done by the CG, who’s members would have swung by a rope until dead, it was done by the NCG, or, if it’s easy to equate; it was done by the constitutional government’s “STRAWMAN”. The CG cannot be held accountable (as there isn’t one functioning anyway) so, in turn, you can not petition the constitutionality of something to someone who isn’t required to operate by it. You waste your time and the only result is frustration because all the NCG members do is run you around from the truth.

            I guess it’s like a traffic violation; when you argue the ticket, you engaged the machine and are now under jurisdiction but, if you argue jurisdiction of the machine first, you never get to the ticket as it cannot be connected to you.

            Only thing we as people can do is organize and separate from the NCG franchises and contracts. Teach.
            I’m thinking that all that can be done is, somehow elect a constitutional president. People who are Americans and not registered to vote and who do not have SS or gov. franchise participation will need to do this. The only one who will recognize this, at first, will be the military.
            A constitutional president immediately inherits the powers of any office that has sworn an oath to protect the constitution and the people but, keep in mind, they protect “people”, NOT “persons”/”corporations”.
            If that could be done, then the power to incriminate upon treason would be great. The very moment the militaries recognized a constitutional president….talk about sh*t hitting the fan.
            What ever day that is will be the new Independence Day.

            Woo-Hoo, this was fun! It’s hot out….going for a cold beer. Maybe I’ll see Obama and we can have a “summit”…..what a loser….

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7. 
   Merle

   July 22, 2010 at 1:19 pm | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

   What if we don’t have any Gold in Fort Knox?
   We have to ask this question.
   Has anyone seen the Gold?
   If the US and the World find out we dont have any gold, Then what happens after our dollar is worthless?

   Does anyone know?

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8. 
   Douglas

   July 21, 2010 at 12:44 am | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

   Yes it is true. The ones who are of a self proclaimed Divine right control everything.

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      David

      July 23, 2010 at 11:11 pm | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

      This is really good Douglas, in one sentence you’ve described the current situation exactly and these parasites (America’s Banks), who contribute absolutely nothing to anyone’s benefit do consider it their self proclaimed divine right to rule over everyone and everything. They have just about managed to establish the power in this country to do this as well, just as they already have in the rest of the world, and they consider the sole purpose of each and every person in this world to be to serve them.

      Let’s define the power mentality then, and what motivates a person to proclaim for themselves a divine right to rule and control everything. I already posted this statement on the sound money blog in a discussion i was having with our friend Christine, but here goes again. People really need to understand exactly what these people are, what motivates them, and the incredible evil they are capable of. Unfortunately very few good or decent people are capable of understanding this, and they simply don’t have the capacity to think like them, and lacking any close personal experience with someone like this, they make the mistake of assuming that their motivations are something that they themselves would understand.

      There are two words in German which divide all of humanity into two categories and everyone belongs to one of the two. There is “Ubermensch” (more than human), which defines a person who enjoys seeing others, including themselves, happy and successful, and there are “Untermensch” (less than human), which defines a person who enjoys inflicting control, hardship, suffering, and misery on others simply and only because it makes them FEEL powerful.

      Every banker and every politician in their service falls into the latter category, this is what they are, this is how they think and they are not human, but rather rabid animals which need to be destroyed before they destroy everyone and everything in their path. Period !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      ………………………………………….

      Each and every one of these people, is motivated by one single and only thing, and this is an insane, all consuming, absolute and compulsive craving for power. The single and only motivation for this craving is envy, and the simple fact that these people absolutely cannot stand to see anyone happy and successful other than themselves, and when they do, this simply keeps eating away at them and makes them crave the power and control that they need on order to ensure that they cannot be so, and this is the single and only purpose that any form of power can serve as well.

      In order to put this in a context that everyone can understand, and i cant speak from a woman’s perspective on this, but this is certainly something that every man and adolescent boy can relate too, but this craving, this obsession, could be compared to that of sex and a 14 year old boy, in that until he actually experiences it for the first time, and realizes that the world will still be the same the following day as it was the day before, pretty much all of his thoughts will be motivated by this curiosity and most of his efforts will be directed towards obtaining the experience. I guess the only real difference, aside from the fact that the former is natural and relatively harmless, is that the power craving never can be satisfied, and the more of it that they obtain and experience and the more harm they can bring to those around them, the more power and the more destruction they crave and they simply continue to live their lives in pursuit of this horrible compulsion which can never be satisfied.

      There is absolutely no sensible, reasonable, rational nor logical reason for such a thing as envy to exist, nor any sensible, reasonable, rational nor logical reason for any person to have any desire to establish any form of power or control over someone else’s life. As long as each of us is free to live our lives as we choose and accomplish the things we need to in order to make them a good and worthwhile thing, for what reason would we want to deny this right to someone else ?. There is no reason for anyone to want to do this, and although 100 % of whatever intelligence and reasoning capacity these people have is directed toward trying to justify their craving for power and their need to bring harm to the people around them and deny them these basic and natural freedoms, the single and only motivation behind every single one of their words and actions, is completely, totally and absolutely insane, and often to the extent where people so motivated will destroy themselves in order to try and satisfy this craving.

      What we are dealing with, would be best compared to a pack of rabid dogs, foaming at the mouth and desperately looking for anything they can attack, and the unfortunate thing is that, just as you say, the rabies in this case doesn’t actually kill them but is passed on to their offspring through their bloodline. This disease, this insanity, is what is responsible for each and every evil thing which has ever befallen humanity throughout the course of human history, and unless those possessed by this disease and this insanity are dealt with in the necessary fashion, just as one must deal with a rabid dog, then it can only continue to spread until it consumes the entire world and there is nothing left which has not become infected.

      It really is a simple thing, and they leave us no choice, at least not if we wish anything but the disease to survive. I guess that the difficulty will be that those of us who may feel any form of love or compassion for the rabid animal, will have to overcome that love and compassion with reason to the extent that it will enable them to destroy it, as if they do not, it will go on to destroy all the other animals as well. For some it may be difficult to do, but it must be done, and it is the single and only sensible, reasonable, rational and logical course of action which is open to us at this point.

      …………………………………………

      Anyway, this is what we are dealing with, and there is no political solution to destroying this power, so if we cannot manage to organize the American population to act collectively to destroy it themselves while they still can, it will destroy us instead, and within a very short time too.

      I’m going to ask the same thing of all of the people who read this and agree as i’ve asked of them on many of the other blogs on here. Please log onto the “Sound Money” blog on this website:

      http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/fiat-money-inflation-federal-reserve/

      This matter has been discussed to death there and the problems, causes and potential solutions have been posted, a great many times. I’ll ask that you start scrolling through the posts there, and go way back as well as there’s been a lot of good information being posted for a long time already, and start copy / pasting everything that you find that you understand and agree with into emails, and forward them to everyone on your email list and ask them to do the same. If we can get lots of this information circulating and into the hands of the entire population repeatedly in order to get their attention and make them understand what needs to be done, then we can propose a course of action that they can all act on together which will accomplish this as well. I can’t do it myself, neither can anyone else, but if everyone here helps us do this then we will make it happen, and save ourselves, all of them, and America in the process.

      Again, thanks everyone.

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9. 
   Mike Jaeger

   July 21, 2010 at 12:31 am | Permalink | Reply Report comment Report comment

   Great Scott… Families, accusations and history – all comes to a boil.

   A bigger problem? Could there be an alliance between famillies that own the military industrial monopoly and famillies that own the Banking monoply… ? Was this problem out of control with the Empire Building Bush Republicans? Do a few elite famillies now control the empire building alliance that now controls both Republican and Democratic Parties. Are they taking America into poverty?

   Lets do the homework. Names, dates, and events can illuminate and then remove corrupt decision making members of our monolpistic enterprises… includes; government, business, military, non profits, and institutions.

   A few private banking families now own a monopoly to produce and manage our currency. Kennedy and Lincoln both agreed with Ron Paul, that we should always own and manage our own currency. This requires us to end the corrupt Federal Reserve System. Empire builders will fight back.

   Readers, surfers, and bloggers, bring your heat now. Do some homework and post comments here and on the front page of http://www.FreeWebPress.com – Democrats, Republicans and the media must fire their corrupt maniacal empire building decision makers. Ron Paul is fighting to reform the Republican Party… he wants to save America from their monoploies and their empire building. He wants to stop endless wars that profit our military industrial monopolies. Who now can we find to reform the Democratic Party ? The Free Web Press is asking this question ? – Mike Jaeger Live -

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10. 
    The Federal Reserve - The People's Guide to the US Constitution

    July 20, 2010 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    [...] On November 19, 2009, the House of Representatives Financial Services Committee passed Rep. Ron Paul’s and Rep. Alan Grayson’s initiative to audit the Federal Reserve.  This initiative basically calls for the Government Accounting Office to audit the Fed’s balance sheets, credit facilities, securities purchase programs and similar items.  The initiative specifically states that nothing in it shall be construed as interference in or dictation of monetary policy by Congress or the Government Accounting Office.  http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/audit-the-federal-reserve-hr-1207/ [...]

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    NH Rep. Laurence Rappaport speaks with The Post & Email about Eligibility, the Constitution, and State Sovereignty | The Post & Email

    July 19, 2010 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    [...] RAPPAPORT: That’s right, and that leaves the Fed, and of course, Ron Paul’s bill, which has been thoroughly [...]

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12. 
    HR 1207 – Audit the Federal Reserve « Liberty International

    July 16, 2010 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    [...] On June 30, 2010, the GOP introduced Ron Paul’s Audit the Fed bill as a motion to recommit, which was the last chance to alter the financial regulation bill. Audit the Fed failed by a vote of 229-198. All Republicans voted in favor of the measure with 23 Democrats crossing the aisle to vote with Republicans. 114 co-sponsors of HR 1207, all Democrats, jumped ship and voted against Audit the Fed. Read more… [...]

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