Illegal Immigration

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Illegal immigrants are a convenient scapegoat for our economic crisis. But with free markets and private property, the need for immigrant labor becomes obvious. Most immigrants, regardless of the color of their skin, are open to the ideals of liberty: private property, free markets, sound money, right to life, low taxes, less war, protection of civil liberties, and a foreign policy designed for peace.

Ron Paul proposed the following action steps for dealing with illegal immigration:

  1. Abolish the welfare state. The incentive to take a job at whatever wage available must prevail.
  2. Establish a generous visitor work program. Once we solve the economic crisis by introducing sound money, demand for domestic and immigrant labor will rise.
  3. Enforce the laws on the books with more border guards. Allow states and landowners to enforce the law and provide security assistance.
  4. Abolish birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants. [Current U.S. citizens will not be affected. Instead, babies born to illegals after a future cutoff date will no longer gain automatic U.S. citizenship. They will still have citizenship in their parents' home countries.]
  5. End all federal mandates on the states to provide free education and medical care for illegal immigrants.


3,518 responses to “Illegal Immigration”

  1. Carlos Mejia

    I like Ron Paul a lot but I cannot agree with his stance on illegal immigration. First of all if an Amnesty were to pass it shouldn’t be for all illegal immigrants, it should be for those that pass certain requisites such as proof of being in this country for more than 15 years, certain paper work, clean criminal record, etc. Second of all a good amount of immigrants do pay taxes and do no receive money back causing a surplus of money for the government, so for anyone to say that it’s unfair for illegals to use hospitals and all those benefits is crazy. I kid you not but even before my parents became residents they paid taxes and received nothing back. Last thing, ending the birthright citizenship really makes me sad because most of these kids born from illegal immigrants are becoming American, they’re losing they’re parents language, they’re simulating to American ways, and the reality is most illegal immigrants are coming in to take up MCjobs which will always exist in high demand. I want to vote for Ron Paul but I hope his view on immigration changes which I doubt will happen.

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  2. violet

    ANOTHER THING THAT IS SICKEN TO ME IS HOW ILLEGAL ALIENS CAN GET IN OUR JOBS, AND ARE ALLOW TO GET THESE STUPID ID NUMBERS TO HELP THEM JUST IGNORE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS IN AMERICA,THIS HAS DID NOTHING BUT HELP THEM GET MORE MONEY FROM OUR AMERICA TAX DOLLARS, BY LYING, THEY HAD FOUND WAYS TO SCHEME AND SCAM OUR IRS, BY CLAIMING MANY DEPENDENTS THEY DON’T REALLY HAVE, SOME ONE ELSE CHILDREN, CLAIMING NIECES AND NEPHEW GALORE, JUST GETTING A BIG REFUND OF $14,000-$29,000 OR MORE A YEAR,WITH THE TOTAL AMOUNT WITH MILLIONS OF THEM DOING THIS A YEAR, AVERAGING OUT TO BE 4.2 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR! NO AMERICAN GET THIS AMOUNT OF TAX REFUNDS FROM OUR OWN IRS!!! AND GUESS WHAT? THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY THIS BACK, THIS IS OUR AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS BEING GIVEN TO THEM, SUDDENLY THIS IS ALRIGHT, BUT IF AN AMERICAN WERE ALLOW TO DO THIS, HE OR SHE WOULD EITHER END UP IN JAIL, AND END UP PAYING ALL OF IT BACK PLUS MORE!! SO WHAT IS THIS SAYING ABOUT OUR SO CALL AMERICAN POLITICIANS, OBAMA WANTS TO GIVE AMNESTY TO CRIMINALS TO THIS COUNTRY AMERICA, THIS NEW FOUND AMNESTY WHERE OBAMA HAS REWARDED ILLEGAL ALIENS BY GIVING THEIR ILLEGAL ALIEN CHILDREN NO DEPORTATIONS, AND WORK PERMITS, WHO HAVE COME HERE AT NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, ALL THE WAY UP TO 30 YEARS OF AGE, IS A BUNCH OF CRAP! THEY ARE JUST GOING TO GIVE ANY ILLEGAL ALIEN AMNESTY, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHO THEY REALLY ARE OR HOW LONG THESE ILLEGAL ALIENS BEEN IN AMERICA, MANY OF THEM WILL HAVE JUST COME ACROSS THE BORDERS, ILLEGAL ALIENS LIE SO MUCH, AND THEY HAVE MANY PEOPLE WHO WILL LIE FOR THEM ALSO, AMERICA IS DEALING WITH TROUBLE, AMERICANS ARE BEING SO FORCE TO ENDURE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND ALL THAT COMES WITH THEM!! THIS THING ABOUT RACIAL PROFILING, WITH THE HISPANIC RACE IS A BUNCH OF CRAP ALSO, BEING SO ILLEGAL ALIENS HIDE BEHIND THEIR LEGAL HISPANICS WHY NOT ASK THEM FOR THEIR STATUS! HOW WOULD ANY ONE KNOW WHO THEY ARE ANY WAY, SO WHY NOT JUST ASK EVERYONE IN AMERICA FOR THEIR STATUS, THIS WAY ILLEGAL ALIENS AND THEIR LEGAL HISPANIC WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CRY RACIAL PROFILING, THIS WAY WE CAN FIND OUT WHO ARE ILLEGAL,THIS SHOULD BE A LAW!

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    1. Joanna

      You are just ignorant. Yes, illegal immagration is bad but they actually do the jobs that some of our lazy American asses would never do. Stealing jobs? WHAT FUCKING JOBS? The only jobs they can work at our low income fast food places or other shit like that. Please fucking tell me, would you be willing to suffer working 40+ hours a week for about 8$ and hour? Some of the people here who do have citizenship and can perfectly look for a decent Job don’t even bother to look for jobs and just rely on Medicare or some benefit like that. If you’re not willing to learn another language then quite frankly, you are lazy as shit. Illegal aliens are Half of the fucking reason why The united states Hasnt become so damn poor. Throw all the illegal immigrant out of the u.s, please do it and tell me how that will work for the economy.

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  3. violet

    What America has now is an disaster, with Obama in charge of illegal immigration, America will suffer, regardless of him feeling and saying it will help America! His Amnesty to these so call children of illegal aliens, who suppose to have come to America at no fault of their own, all the way up to 30 years of age is not going solve our illegal immigration problem, all Obama did is thrown gasoline on the fire! We already have millions of illegal aliens in our jobs with false social security numbers, false names, false ages, all the while millions of Americans or unemployed! giving amnesty to these children who come here at no fault of their own, all the way up to 30 years of age and giving them work permits is only going to put illegal aliens in competition with Americans in getting jobs ! They will always be in the front of lines for our jobs , while Americans be in the back of the line!!

    Let’s face it Americans are already in competition in getting jobs with illegal aliens! What Americans need to start asking our American politicians, federal governments, employers, supreme court judges, is ” WHAT MAKES ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO HAVE FALSE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS, USING SOME ONES SOCIAL NUMBERS, FALSE NAMES, WHO LIE ABOUT THEIR AGES, WHO NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHO THEY ARE, SO MUCH MORE TRUSTWORTHY TO WORK IN OUR JOBS, WITH OUT BEING INVESTIGATED, OR HAVING BACKGROUND CHECKS, LIKE AMERICANS WHO ARE SO STRONGLY REQUIRED TO HAVE BACKGROUND CHECKS BEFORE OUR OWN AMERICAN EMPLOYERS WILL HIRE THEM?????? THIS IS NO SECURITY IN OUR JOBS, OR IN AMERICA!!

    AMERICANS ARE GETTING SCREWED BECAUSE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!! ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE MORE EXCUSES THEN ANYONE I KNOW, ALL THEIR STRATEGIES, AND EXCUSES, BY ALL THE ADVOCATES, AND BIG ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELPS PUSH FOR THEM TO REMAIN IN AMERICA! They are being help to just scheme and scam our American system as they please, them taking fully advantage of our America birthrights, they had found that this allow their children being born in America an instant American citizenship AND HELPS THEM STRONGLY TO BENEFIT OUR GOVERNMENT FREEBIES, MEDICAL, FOOD CARDS, LOW INCOME HOUSING, SEC 8 PROGRAMS! WIC PROGRAM! which is wrong, this shouldn’t be happening! them bringing their children here, that excuse is now, let’s reward their children who come to America at no fault of their own! ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS BEING FORCE DOWN AMERICANS THROAT! ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE BEING ALLOW TO SPIT AND WALK ALL OVER OUR AMERICAN CONSTITUTION OUR LAW, RULES, AND REGULATION AS THOUGHT THEY DO NOT EXIST! OUR OWN POLITICIANS RATHER TAKE CARE OF ANOTHER COUNTRY POOR, AND FORGET ABOUT THEIR OWN COUNTRY POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS CITIZENS! RIGHT NOW TODAY MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE BEING PUT DOWN FOR JOBS BECAUSE AMERICA ARE HIRING LEGAL AND ILLEGAL HISPANICS! ALL THIS IS IGNORED, AND IS ON A HUSH! HUSH! AND THIS THING WHERE EMPLOYERS TELLING AMERICANS AT INTERVIEWS, THAT IF THEY WERE BILINGUAL IT WOULD BE A PLUS!! WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR ENGLISH LANGUAGE???? ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OVER POPULATION WILL GET IN THE WAY OF AMERICANS GETTING JOBS, WE WILL BE IN COMPETITION IN GET WORK IN OUR OWN COUNTRY WITH THEM, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BLIND TO THIS, OR THEY JUST TOTALLY IGNORE THIS, OR ARE THEY JUST GOING TO WAIT UNTIL IT IS TO LATE, OR UNTIL THIS HIT THEM IN THE FACE REALLY HARD, AMERICA IS BEING SOLD OUT TO THE LOWEST BIDDER!!!

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  4. jordan

    I am strongly disapointed by the things some of you are saying. Yes it is not fair that a heavy flow of immagrants are going to make it harder on American tax payers. But what are you fighting for, a front row seat to a life in a country we take for granit so much that we sit here pondering and argueing over 24/7. WE are fighting for the luxieries of life that people all over the world will only get a sliver of. how can you bite a peice of fruit not knowing the hardship of those who picked it? Not knowing that when someone snuck them in here they were taking a chance that they were willing to take that could of got them killed. we cant look at the world as fend for your self.. fend for america and other white countries that will scratch our backs when needed. unless you are 100% native american, who are you to call someone an immigrant. what would your grand fathers and mothers think of you after they had packed into some boat to get here? You may be upset that you are spending tax money is making it so you must get laminated floors oppose to hard wood, but if you are so mad about them being on your land how about you take matters in your own hands. deffend your land… oh yeah people have already tried that and they ended up getting killed or being put on the worst parts of america and being put in indian reservations by us.

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    1. Josh

      I strongly disagree with you, Jordan what Ron’s policy is fighting for is the rights of Immigrants. NOT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. and you are right mostly everyone in America comes from a line that immigrated. The difference is that the people who are citizens are mostly LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Every thing comes down to the law and I absolutely 100% agree with these policies because if we are paying wellfare for illegal immigrants to live in OUR country, go to OUR schools, get care from OUR hospitals, and work OUR jobs all with out being CITIZENS of OUR COUNTRY? It’s preposterous. AMERICA HAS BEEN BANKRUPTED ENOUGH SOLVING OTHER COUNTRY’S PROBLEMS. AMERICA NEEDS TO FOCUS ON ITSELF BEFORE WE CAN FOCUS ON OTHERS. ITS BASIC PSYCHOLOGY IN ORDER TO BE OF USE IN THE WORLD WE HAVE TO WORK ON FIXING OUR PROBLEMS BEFORE WE FOCUS ON SOMEONE WHO COULDN’T BE BOTHERED TO IMMIGRATE TO THE COUNTRY THE RIGHT WAY.

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    2. MotorMouth

      @Jordan

      How dare you try to justify what is wrong in the first place and manipulate symphaty. Were not talking about what went on hundreds of years ago where justice is most probably in its scarcity where you can kill people and get away with it. Were talking about whats going on TODAY. Just so I’m might get killed for smuggling a piece of fruit does that mean I’m worthy of peoples symphaty when I shouldnt be smuggling anything in the 1st place? Sure, They all just want to earn some money to feed their starving families. what about those who do it in an honest way? those who earn nickel to nickel without going agaisnt the law. The way I see it, you’re using the “you’re white from europe-not a native american born” game. trying to play a little twisted mind game with these people.

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  5. Norman

    ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

    Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

    The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

    Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

    What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

    How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

    And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

    But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

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  6. Natural Born Hispanics Have Rights Too

    I agree with most of your views Mr. Ron Paul,
    however this is the only stance of your political
    platform that breaks it for me, sorry.

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    1. MotorMouth

      I bet his sorry too for bursting your bubble.

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  7. Alfred

    There’s nothing new under the sun, only the history we don’t know.”

    I heard someone wise once mention this quote. It stuck with me. When we don’t know history, we are doomed to repeat it.

    “After the 1994–1995 economic crisis (mexico), probably the most severe in the country’s history, 50% of the population fell into poverty.”

    source: Economy of Mexico
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Mexico

    How did 50% or more fall into poverty?

    Thomas Jefferson wrote:
    “The [privately-owned] Central Bank is an institution of the most deadly
    hostility existing against the principles and form of our Constitution…
    if the American people allow private banks to control the issuance of their
    currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations
    that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property
    until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers
    conquered.”

    Central Banks are set up all over the world and are known to make deals with each other. Thomas Jefferson believed that “Banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.”

    When is America going to wake up? When 50% of Americans have fallen into poverty? The best thing we can do is educate ourselves about private Central Banking systems. There’s alot of info on this website. And sharing this info with others is crucial to one day truly protecting liberty.

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  8. re-elect no one

    il·le·gal  [ih-lee-guhl]
    adjective
    1. contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.: ex;-The referee ruled that it was an illegal forward pass.

    are we forgeting the main basis of our discussion?
    Play by the rules that are in place. Earn your citizenship.
    its about respect.

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    1. Devil's Advocate

      Playing by the rules that are in place applies to employers too, or it applies to no one.

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    2. Alfred

      I agree. It’s about respect. By the way, let’s respect the constitution and only go to war with a declaration of war by the Congress. Let’s respect the constitution and not allow a private Central Bank aka The Federal Reserve to print money out of thin air and cause the inflation. Through Ron Paul we have learned how the Federal Reserve creates the boom and busts cycle in the economy.
      Ron Paul has addressed the immigration issue as an economic problem and has the solution. No free healthcare and education for undocumented immigrants. No amnesty and birth right citizenship for undocumented immigrants. At the same time Ron acknowledges undocumented immigrants have become the scapegoat and doesn’t see them as criminals. Immigrants are now often blamed for the economic crisis.
      The country has faced many recessions and depressions in this past century but the culprit is the Federal Reserve.

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  9. nencib

    hey really intersting blog i am from algeria and unfortunately i am planing to come to the us legally or unlegally man so what do u think is it hard for me to live there man in society that i know nothing about by the way i do speak english very well and other lagnguages like spanish and french and russian and arabic also thx man

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    1. Adam

      Full immigration is beneficial for the US and its citizens.

      It does not harm the middle class. Most people who immigrate to this county start out performing low skill tasks, allowing the current middle class to further specialize. Countries that institute full unfettered immigration see a substantial increase in overall standard of living, because they become increasingly competitive in the global market place.

      There is no way or reason to secure the borders. If a terrorist wants into the country he is going to find a way in regardless of laws or physical obstacles.

      Your platform is sound, but you need to change this position in order to be economically sound and to gain the many votes of US citizens who identify themselves as hispanic.

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      1. Devil's Advocate

        Border porosity is directly proportional to employer accountability, viz: minimum wage and payroll taxes. The degree to which employers are allowed to ignore their legal obligations reflects our commitment to legal immigration.

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  10. End Immigration

    My father, a construction worker, was once actually nearly injured when a coworker didn’t know English! The immigrant didn’t even bother to learn enough English to yell, “Look out!”
    I think it’s lucky my father wasn’t hurt.
    Also, if an illegal immigrant can get new papers and a new identity within a few days or weeks, what stops them from from committing a crime then simply dropping the ID it was committed under? That wouldn’t necessarily keep them from getting caught forever, but it’s certainly enough time to get out of the state, or the country, don’t you think?
    Another point is, how much respect for a country does someone have if they enter it illegally, don’t try to learn the language, abuse the current immigration laws, and, in many cases, simply work low-paying jobs for a few years then go back to their own country?
    I admit, I rarely (nay, never!) have agreed with the views of anyone considered a republican, but most of what I’ve read on this site makes sense. I’ll have to show this to my father (who is, if anyone is, ready for some big changes.)

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    1. Devil's Advocate

      How much respect should someone have for a country that allows its employers to go unpunished for breaking laws, while at the same time criminalizing those who are lured here as disposable employees?

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  11. Devil's Advocate

    End illegal employment of undocumented workers that criminalizes immigrants while allowing their employers to violate minimum wage and tax laws with impunity.

    “When policemen break the law, then there isn’t any law – just a fight for survival.” ~ Billy Jack

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  15. Ivan Tello

    I would love to hear someone how is illegal immigration a problem?, a real statistic where you put in one side the benefits, and on the other the problems. Saying this, I’m all in about what someone said, the problem is not illegal people, it is illegal jobs. Don’t call it a “substantial” problem, just think…

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  16. Intolife123

    I love his idea on the matter of Illegal’s. We as American’s need this to happen! We as Americans have a hard time getting medical care, College funding, and help when we need it! The USA is a “melting pot” with different people from all over the world. It always will be but do it legally! Get your citizenship like so many of our parents and grandparents had to do! I believe if we change our laws on this matter, we will see a great change in this country.
    Also, to comment about the “jobs that white people wont do” is not true. My mom and sis and brothers worked in the cotton fields. I’m a female and I’ve worked in the hay fields, worked construction too. There are a lot of Mexicans that work on construction crews. Some are legal and some are not. The ones that are Illegal have several SSI cards and use other family visa’s to come here. They use several different names! We have no idea if we are dealing with a criminal from the other country!! Could be a Murderer, rapist, molester, thief, killer, any of those. We have no way of knowing! We need to work on keeping America safe and strong. We have enough “bad” people here we don’t need to take another chance on having another 9-11!
    Vote= RON PAUL

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    1. Devil's Advocate

      911 wasn’t planned and carried out by migrant workers, and fraudulent documentation only benefits employers who pay cash under the table. Illegal jobs create illegal immigration; not vice versa.

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  17. 4Liberty

    I think it’s funny how many people have nothing to do but agrue online!!!
    When there is illegals working in the fields right now which they are just trying to make a living. I’m currently doing a mock Campaign for Ron Paul at my college and my speech is on immigration. Immigrations is a subject for personal Bias but to call one person ignornant for stating their own feelings is ignornat. Why be a Hater??? Do your research and Don’t be Bias!!!

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  18. N

    Immigration is such a touchy subject. I am a first generation natural born citizen in my family (both my parents entered legally and are now citizens as well) and I have opposing views from them and yet, opposing views here. Before any concrete action should take place, they need to fix the problem. It is way too many people to be all against working out the problem and even deportation can be harsh since some could have been living here majority of their life. I am all up to getting stricter with regulations, but we can not abandon those who have been in our surroundings without even considering ways in which they could help the system.

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  19. sue

    as a hiring manager i know how hard it is to fill positions with Only Americans… in the hotel industry no one wants to work the jobs for what the companies are paying… I also know many think they should receive high wages to start… Immigrants are not taking our jobs… they are taking the jobs no one else wants to do. Do not blame the immigrants for the wages… blame the companies who do not want to pay the wages an american thinks he or she should make. I am an American by the way… i have no issue working for minimum wage at whatever job i am doing…

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  20. A. Carter

    There are 3 reasons why Ron Paul should stay in the race. 1. Obama’s Illegal Libyan Crusade 2. Obama’s Illegal Immigration Policies at the expense of hard working American taxpayers, and 3. Obama’s support of Gay Marriage. I switched parties and have been campaigning for Ron Paul since Obama made the first mistake (1)! RON PAUL 2012!!!

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  21. logan

    Illegal immigration in my opinion is a tool both partys use to win vote.Every election year they talk about it,some tell their voter that illegals make their life miserable they take you your job and such others say that have nothing to do,that they are human first of all.In the end none of them do nothing cause they know this is one the strongest tool to be used for both party to get into the the house and them they suddenly see the truth and than shut up,have no comments or say they have no support from anybody.what america needs is something concrete,either deport everybody or fix the situation and stop this stupid game of politicians

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  22. Ritchie

    I’d like to see all you white people working immigrant jobs.

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    1. Artimus J

      I’d like to see all you illegal immigrants deported!

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    2. Ceagl

      Do you mean like working in restaurants, road maintainace, movers, and constuction? Yes, I have worked in two out of three of those jobs and I was in college. So when you say you would like to see white people working those jobs-HERE IS YOUR WHITE PERSON WHO HAS.

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    3. Craig

      Dude I know lots of americans in general who have been pushed out of the construction industry by illegals. You mean to tell me that an unemployed white man would pass up a job as a laborer or some kind of tradesman…….who the hell did these jobs before illegal immigration was an issue, answer that. Come on

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      1. this kid

        the illegal immigrants aren’t the problem, they’re just looking for a better life, one that WE already have. the problem is the corporations that promote and support illegal jobs because it’s more economically efficient. instead of putting the blame on the fish, why don’t you blame the illegal fisher? Ron Paul 2012!

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        1. Devil's Advocate

          Exactly!

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  23. rarahkwisere nln

    also if you look up,in the black’s law dictionary, the word citizen,also the last time i checked corporation can’t have borders.Corporation are only a figment of a few people mind,they make them up,so how can they have boeders?thought has borders?

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  24. rarahkwisere nln

    no indians are illegal, maybe if nature has put you in europe and you got pink skin then you should be in europe,if you got brown skin then you belong anywhere on turtle island”america,and not the broke corporationUSA” let you a helping hand and now you people are trying to keep the natives corraled,like you’s are. i”ll be his running mate

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  25. Devil's Advocate

    Illegal immigration is caused by illegal jobs. Immigrants ought not be held accountable to laws avoided by legal citizens.

    1) Holding employers accountable has already been proven to decrease illegal populations in those states where the right to security of all citizens, including those doing business, implies a duty to pay a minimum wage and adherence to federal and local tax codes. Change the current system if you don’t like it, but don’t pretend profiting from injustice validates a “free market system”.

    2) Once the carrot has been removed, reform immigration policy to reflect the reality of today’s international labor force. Ask yourself, “Are we here to to make the world a better place, or to take advantage of it?” If our great society requires a lower caste to survive economically, then its time to allow them out of the shadows and recognize their lives, liberties and pursuit of happiness too.

    The reality of working immigrants being treated as a disposable labor force and blamed for our problem is unconscionable.

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    1. IntellegentVoter

      Another part of the cause for illegal immigration is the immigration law itself. There are limits in place in the law that keep most people out who want to immigrate legally.

      The only way it is easy to legally immigrate to this country is if a) you are highly skilled/educated, b) You have lots of money to invest, c) you have lots of money and want to start a business here.

      Other than that, you have to have family here and be willing to wait years and years for the system to let you in, and that’s only if you can afford the high costs of lawyer fees, government fees, and other costs such as medical exams by only certain (approved) doctors, etc. Try doing that on the median salary from poor countries of 1/10th of our minimum wage….

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      1. Devil's Advocate

        Until immigration policy is reformed, I’m for bring rationally consistent and extending the same kind of amnesty for migrant workers that their employers regularly get by aiding, abetting and profiting from illegal immigration.

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  26. Angel

    I don’t understand how this man (Ron Paul) can call himself a christian when he’s showing what is contrary to what Christ taught (love, mercy, kindness, acceptance, etc.) how dares he to say that he will abolish citizenship from kids born over here in the U.S just because their parents are undocumented (not illegal)?, in that case even he need to go back to europe and cancel his citizenship cuz somehow down the line he is a descendant of an european emigrant. and from the very beginning, who has ever come “legally” to the U.S? in that case, native american should rule the emigration policies. this man is crazy and his idea will never come to happen.

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    1. Artimus J

      Well, being a conservative has nothing to do with his Christian views. He, unlike other polititians, would lead this country without injecting his Christian beliefs into how this country is run. Controlling borders of a nation that is worried about so called “terrorist” and runaway debt is a step in the right direction. Awarding illegal immigrants and gearing our military toward an invisible enemy overseas, along with billions of taxpayer dollars, is a further step towards disaster.
      If they want to be a citizen of this country, they need to go through the process like everyone else…STAND IN LINE! The incentives have to stop. Stop awarding people for breaking our countries laws!

      Ron Paul 2012

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      1. Devil's Advocate

        “Stop awarding people for breaking our countries laws!” ~ Artimus J

        Absolutely! Stop allowing American employers who offer illegal jobs to operate with impunity. When they are held accountable, undocumented workers migrate elsewhere. Why hold migrants accountable to laws their employers break?

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        1. Stop The Insanity

          They are BOTH responsible for their actions. Corporations need to be held accountable for employing ILLEGAL immigrants. The ILLEGAL immigrants need to be held responsible for their decision to enter the country illegally as well.

          Your theory would hold true then, that because a illegal drug dealer offers a job selling drugs, that the drug pusher is not responsible for his actions. Therefore, we should punish the dealer and not the pusher. Do you think that the pusher is not responsible for his decision to sell these illegal drugs? He too, only wants a job and to better his lot in life.

          Both should be punished within the existing laws. If you do not like the existing laws, work to change them. This country would not exist without our laws. You cannot simply ignore them because you don’t agree with them or they are inconvenient!

          The funny thing is that people think that if they call illegal immigrants “undocumented workers” that somehow, they are magically not guilty of illegally entering this country. A rose by any other name…

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  27. mlq

    Uh, how do you tell another country that people who are born in your country will have citizenship in theirs?

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    1. Seeks_the_Truth

      Uh, the countries did when the parents received their citizenship in that country.

      America is just following all the other countries by not allowing automatic citizenship JUST because you were born there.

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  28. SpawnOfCheese

    All these religious tangents are just sad.

    What does God have to do with illegal immigration? One persons going on about ‘love thy neighbor’ and the others talking about how the whole ‘Muslim race’ is evil and how all immigrants are criminals, and both use religious context for their reasoning.
    Sounds kind of chaotic, if you ask me. Its just using religion for a crutch for your own personal believes.

    <3 Spawn

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  29. Stuart Cox

    The horrible grammar (most of you won’t know what that word means) in these comment is pitiful. Folks, if you wish to be taken seriously learn to write the English language clearly so your message will be understood.

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    1. This Guy

      “In these comment”

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  30. Charlie

    What the U.S. needs is to invest more in education because by the looks of these blog there are way too many ignorant morons who blame illegal immigrants for everything.
    In my opinion the United States should deport all morons who have unethical traits and whom are ignorant, arrogant, and racist.

    It’s a shame really how crude in education many of you are.

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    1. SpawnOfCheese

      :/ That’s a little one sided, don’t you think?
      Just because a person doesn’t agree with you doesn’t make them ignorant. However, I do agree with you, we cant blame all of our problems on illegal immigration, but it is still a substantial problem. Immigration, by all means, should be encouraged, it isn’t a bad thing. However, illegal immigration (other than the fact that it is ILLEGAL), severally damages our already rather fragile economy.

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    2. Seeks_the_Truth

      It’s rather hard for a citizen child to receive a proper education when much of the funds are diverted to educate illegal alien’s children. The classes are over crowded by illegals which further impedes the learning process for children, because their parents pay taxes to support these schools, have a right to be there.

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      1. Devil's Advocate

        It’s harder for a citizen child to receive an education when much of the funds generated by taxes are avoided by those who offer illegals jobs and aren’t held accountable to their legal tax obligations.

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  31. rarahkwisere nln

    last time i checked it said a corporation can’t have borders cause a “corporation is only a thought between a few men” so how can you have “borders”??????when people not from here trying to do the same bullcrap here.i saw “robin hood 2009 andit seems they are doing to yous the same way thet did it those poor people back in the day.same eh?

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  32. rarahkwisere nln

    i’m mohawk first of all,i am the owner of all of america,not you,ok so how come you’s call all indians from any where in “america” immagrants ,don’t forget you are on borrowed time,you have worn out your welcome ,helped you’s out then you’s shit on us. but i support ron though.seems to be by far the only real man for this job. probably be best to let this royal regime die, they been going good since 1213 ad and probably earlier

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  33. Ronald A Whiteman

    We need to inforce the oath of office.
    If we did they would not be doing that they are doing.
    You know them by that they are doing and voting for.

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  34. Ronald A Whiteman

    We need to inforce the oath of office.
    If we did they would not be doing that they are doing.
    You know them by that they are doing and voting for.

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  35. Marvin

    For all you blind folded souls.
    Do you prefer to live your life believing thay God doesn’t exist to find out He does. Or live believing to find out he doese’nt.

    Love thy neighbor as ye live thyself.

    We will all be judged by God alone on that day.

    Hosea 4:6
    My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge;
         because you have rejected knowledge,
        I reject you from being a priest to me.
    And since you have forgotten the law of your God,
         I also will forget your children.

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