Illegal Immigration

Illegal immigrants are a convenient scapegoat for our economic crisis. But with free markets and private property, the need for immigrant labor becomes obvious. Most immigrants, regardless of the color of their skin, are open to the ideals of liberty: private property, free markets, sound money, right to life, low taxes, less war, protection of civil liberties, and a foreign policy designed for peace.

Ron Paul proposed the following action steps for dealing with illegal immigration:

  1. Abolish the welfare state. The incentive to take a job at whatever wage available must prevail.
  2. Establish a generous visitor work program. Once we solve the economic crisis by introducing sound money, demand for domestic and immigrant labor will rise.
  3. Enforce the laws on the books with more border guards. Allow states and landowners to enforce the law and provide security assistance.
  4. Abolish birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants. [Current U.S. citizens will not be affected. Instead, babies born to illegals after a future cutoff date will no longer gain automatic U.S. citizenship. They will still have citizenship in their parents’ home countries.]
  5. End all federal mandates on the states to provide free education and medical care for illegal immigrants.

  • JenniferNie

    I talk a lot about that. That is where some say I am a dreamer, but in the wake of 9/11, Katrina, and Catastrophe in other parts of the worlds, people came together to show their support by either going and helping out physically or financially and you could feel the American Spirit, no denying it, You could feel a commonality among people of the world, so it is in us as it is in all people, and I think RP believes this adn hopes people will be all of this when it counts, then America will be ok and on the way to being “RESTORED” with the help of Ron Paul and his supporters opening the eyes of others to the meaning of Liberty. Thanks for reading Jen

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  • JenniferNie

    Even though many of you don’t like the thought of it, many did, and many I speak with outside this site also like it. If I found Ron Paul was displeased with this and did not like me even suggesting it, I would stop, because I have to respect his desisions as being best, but I am not so sure the above might just be acceptable, time will tell. regardless, I can say with out a doubt that Ron Paul will do exactly what he says he will do or make more effort than anyone to get it implemented. (HIS PLAN) as far as Welfare goes, he says in the video ” not just Illegals, but Welfare for Legals as well, it is the dependancy that draws all kinds to either not go out and work, or milk the current system, having negative effect on the economy so I suport abolishing those programs asap 100% becuase Like RP, I agree that Charity needs to come into play, that is the Human Factor at work.

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  • JenniferNie

    SO, when I hear Ron Paul say 18 months is rediculous, I agree, but it also make me think and this is just my opinion, but that MAYBE the door for an exception for people who meet the so called criteria in the “what if plan”, ( THIS WOULD BE OK WITH ME, I WOULD BE SATISFIED, HAPPY.) AND I HOPE YOU COULD LIVE WITH IT ALSO., it would be a small sacrifice but do a whole lot more good in a humane way. (Please do not confuse or take out of context the 18 month thing, re read it if neccessary. This would just be and addition or guidline in the Deportation Process to be considered, that is what I was trying to find out if some of you would accept in addtion to RP’s Plan you see.

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  • JenniferNie

    Something like that, I had mentioned it in the “What if” that I will bring back per the request of some. I was not open to the 18 month thing until today recalling a few weeks ago when I heard the Farmers case, and the realization that it is mainly in part of the red tape of up to 2 yrs that is a big contributer to that problem. I was somewhat supportive of the Farmer at that point but giving it more thought today, I would consider supporting it, but who ever worked for the Farmer for 18 months or more but really am more for the people who have been here a life time or long time Illegally with out any trouble, but again, you can’t always know who is legal or not, but my one time calling out, gives those a chance and cost very lttile.

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  • JenniferNie

    I would like to point out that Ron Paul supports people being here Legally, I beleive he means improve the process so needed workers are here Legally. He does not agree with Amnesty but does say that it is rediculous to give Amnesty to someone who is here for 18 months, I agree 100% with the exception of possibly already employed Farm Workers in which both the Farmer and employee would pay a price for both of their Initial Illegal activity, I say it is the form of a fine, then the work permit is expedited.

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  • JenniferNie

    You will notice in Link #1 sent, the lay out of the Illegal Immigration Plan no. 1-(Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country BEFORE we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.) I agree with this and the the rest of the plan 100%. Borders first is absolute must. When we (all of you here making comments) had rigorous discussion going on the past few weeks, many of you know that i had put a “what if plan” along with Jacob Beasley that was up for scrutiny or suggested addtions, some took part. Notice in watching the video, Ron Paul talks about something that I brought up earlier, and that is the no. of Illegals in our Country and the difficulty in locating them if ever, I mentioned this because it is reality and would be a waste of money, a lot of money.

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  • JenniferNie

    Here is a link containing a petition for Ron Paul that i recommend you all sign immediately if you have not already done so. This is is you want to see Ron Paul for President 2012. There is also information there to click like to share it and also a link within the link to doante if you wish. http://www.ronpaul2012.net/

    A gfew people have asked me some questions and I am still working on them so I will provide them in the next few days as they may be of interest to others. I am still here because I continue to get requests fot information, so I will be happy to provide any information regarding Ron Paul.

    on both links I just sent, there are additional links of other web sites containing current news and updates if you want to follow RP. Thanks all

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  • JenniferNie

    Hello there evryone, I am sure most of you have watch this, but just incase, here is the link on Illegal Immigration layed out for you and the video of Ron Paul explaining, the web page chages from time to time and I assumed everyone was on ronpaul.com and saw this, but it seems that is not always the case, so for some here ya go

    http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/border-security/#lf_comment=7610559

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  • JosephSerrano

    @seejaymouser Ah okay. Awesome I’ll have to check him out, and old school straight up country is my favorite kind.

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  • JosephSerrano

    @JenniferNie I’m doing good. Ah I see, well I would love to take a look at your plan too. Ya the flag thing was a response to seejay. Okay that sounds good, and thank you! I can’t find you on FB so go ahead and add me :]

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    • JosephSerrano

      @JenniferNie ah never mind i found you. ill add you

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    • JenniferNie

      will do :)

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    • JenniferNie

      @JosephSerrano

      Hi Joseph, You do not have to read all of the poists, but I did post some more Ron Paul information links. If you just go to todays comments, I think my first 2 0r 3 give the gist of what was trying to be accomplished. Then how to anser the question. and then the WHAT IF. Thanks for you interest even if you do not agree with that paticular scenario. I will ost a quick pep talk idea for Ron Paul supporters right now and the I will see you FB or Ron Paul’s FB. Take casre my friend. Jen

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  • JenniferNie

    CarlosQC, You are listening right now!!!! ???? Where have you been???? Myself and others waited for you, waited to wlecome you back and you can respond directly to some sho you like and don’t like if you wish, but som of welcome your comments, I hope you will come back :) Jen

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  • lovemesomeliberty

    does anyone know what Ron Pauls thoughts are on Sheriff Joe Arpaio?? He tends to be the poster child for the fight against illegal immigration, yet he is constantly on the chopping block for being in violation of the 1st and 4th amendments….Anyone have thoughts on this or have any information pertaining to Ron Pauls stance on Arpaio’s tactics?

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    • JenniferNie

      @lovemesomeliberty

      I’ll get back to you on that this wekend. good question, Thanks Jen

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      • lovemesomeliberty

        Much appreciated Jen! thanks! I have had great difficulty finding any information as far as Pauls thoughts on the Arpaio tactics. Being that Paul is a champion of the constitution I would assume he would have a thing or two to say about the AZ situations involving Sheriff Arpaio. Thanks a million! I look forward to your response! @JenniferNie

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  • JenniferNie

     
    Thaaaaaaaaaaank goodnesss I am done with Seejay’s questions!
    For any of you who want to be my friend on Face book look me up, or visit me on Ron Paul Face Book Page you can enter comments on the Wall and read Ron Paul updates. You can click read all commenst off to the right side of the wall to communicate with supporters, Take care. Jen  
    RON PAUL!  RON PAUL!  RON PAUL!  2012!

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  • seejaymouser

    Okay I got eleven response posts from you Jennifer and not a single answer to any of my real questions. You also called me a name which is your right to do. Actually you called me several names … bigoted, racist, hater, opinionated and not the least … bimbo … in caps. Now I will respond in kind. You’re a dreamer.

    Don’t you realize that everybody who is here illegally has developed relationships with Americans like you and has some family here somewhere? Most of them only come because they have a place to go when they get here … family members. So which illegals should be returned to Mexico in your opinion, because using your scale we might be able to find one or two or three in each state who have been in solitary confinement and haven’t befriended someone in this country.

    My contribution has been sharing my experiences and my opinions, how is that different from yours?

    I am not full of hate and if reading my posts has lead you to that opinion try reading them again without emotion. I don’t hate anyone, but I also don’t pull punches. I didn’t raise my children to hate people based on the color of their skin or their origins. How do you explain the fact that my daughter fell in love with a Hispanic and has a half Hispanic child, both of whom I love with ALL my heart. My son-in-law knows me and knows how I feel. He is American and we agree on many things regarding this issue. Does that make him a sell out?

    If people despise this country so much that they feel the need to fly the flag of another country then why be here? Divided we fall, remember, if we’re not all American’s together then what are we? Most Americans are just happy go lucky yuppie types that just want to go to work, pay bills and have some fun. We rarely get riled up unless we’re given a reason. It riles me up when someone walks to my counter and starts babbling at me in Spanish and when I say I don’t speak Spanish they speak louder like I’m deaf. This happens to me several times a day every day and it has finally gotten me riled up, and when I got riled up I started paying attention to other things around me. That’s how I became the racist, bigoted, opinionated hater that you think I am. Shit, I almost forgot BIMBO.

    I think I’m just like you … with different experiences.

    And I managed to say all of this in one post. The reason I posted it at the top is because I am sick of wading through fifty posts to find the one I want.

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    • JenniferNie

      @seejaymouser

      Just an example of how you can’t understand because you block what you don’t want. How could you not get the answers, Why don’t we ask others if they get it? I bet they do.

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      • seejaymouser

        @JenniferNie

        Ask ’em.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          K evryone who followed, what do you think, did I answer the questions, and did seejay answer hers? 😉

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        • Ascenci0

          @JenniferNie@seejaymouser I read the 1st couple of your guy’s post but from my experience and discussions with Cj ill prolly have to say that she didn’t answer all your questions and also she prolly didn’t comment on other stuff besides on stuff that she agrees on and can make an argument out of it… and With jen well she seems to make a lot of post which is fine but i read a few of them maybe like 8 out of 10 of them mainly the ones that said in response to me..

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    • JenniferNie

      @seejaymouser

      my posts may not have been completed when you started your response, but any how I am done, so maybe you’ll find the answeres and maybe not. No hard feelings Seejay, I hope everyone’s life is all that it can be. Thanks for our discussions regardless of our disagreements. Jen

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      • seejaymouser

        No they weren’t because there were actually 20 or so responses from you. But I still don’t find the answers. Just a lot of anger. Cheers. @JenniferNie

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          The answers are there, they r ust not what you wanted, but they are teh truth.

          I keep trying to do one big post, but it keeps getting rejected even when I try at the top, that’s why I was asking you the other day about posting.

          I really have to go now, I took the time to day to answer your questions and try to get you to try and have an open mind also. I am way behind schedule now but that is ok. Jen

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          The more the merrier! and I am not angry at all, I don’t really get angry unless I am physically threatend or see some one else get physically threatend, then I get angry. LOL! I am really sorry about the number of posts, you will have to forgive me on that, I have tried to get comments on one page, and sometimes it takes a big one and sometimes not? have nt figured it out and always in a hurry. Chow!

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    • JenniferNie

      @seejaymouser

      I have to respond to you again, I re read your post, I cussing and name calling is not me, but I do not like haters and while you may not be a hater or opinionated, your posts really come accross that way. Now you gave me constructive criticism so maybe I just gave you some back.

      You mention several posts back, that now I sound human, I don’t know what would have not made me seem human before, as you know until today you did not see me rip on anyone directly ever or name call. I am not over emotional, but I I do get emotional when I sense predudice and hatred, because it so damging, so ugly.

      I am sorry I called you names, I do not think You are a BIMBO, but the predudice, hate think, I do think you need to work on because it appears to be in you and it is not healthy. I do hope you will re read my posts from today as I have yours, it is good for us.

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      • seejaymouser

        @JenniferNie

        Everything begins with a person’s perspective and established mindset. If you are for a particular subject then anyone who agrees with you will sound perfectly reasonable. By the same token anyone who disagrees with you may sound like a lunatic.

        I am very direct. I hear that all the time from people, but I usually try to keep my emotions in check, but I will also loosen the reins if someone speaks to me a certain way and respond to them the same way. I reiterate, I do not hate anyone, certainly not an entire race of people. But I doubt anyone will change my opinion on certain subjects. That is not to say that I am not open to different methods of accomplishing the purpose.

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    • JenniferNie

      @seejaymouser

      I just want to say TODAY, you seemed the most HUMAN ever and If name calling and heated discussion brought that out I am glad, and know I never meant to hurt your feelings with name calling. I have a pretty good feeling your thick skinned when it comes to that and more power to ya! I don’t know if it is possible, but I hope another job falls in your lap, because it sounds like the one you have is getting to you and not healthy.

      DREAMER, yes I am. Martin Luther King was a Dreamer, Steve Jobs was a Dreamer, though not on near as big of a scale, I have accomplished so much in my life while constantly being told I am a dreamer, so dream a little and never give up.

      Take care my friend.

      Jen

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      • seejaymouser

        @JenniferNie

        Yep and they’re both gone.

        What you did today was get my attention. That is not easy to do. And no, you didn’t hurt my feelings, but you sounded more like the rest of us and I “heard” some of your true personality come through. I can’t imagine getting any other job in my industry would change anything at all, as this same thing happens everywhere I go.

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  • JosephSerrano

    seejay, insinuating that Mexicans are dirty does not help your case. When I go to the lake I see plenty of white folks littering but I would never say that whites are responsible for all of California’s trash (because that’s just ridiculous). We need to keep our borders secure as illegal immigration is a problem for the U.S. and the migrants health/safety. We need to allow our border patrol to do it’s job but we have to be humanitarians as well.

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    • seejaymouser

      @JosephSerrano

      I’m not insinuating anything. I’m saying it directly. I am going by what I see. Like the lady who threw the beer bottle over the roof of her car into the ditch in 7 a.m. rush hour traffic. And the guy who stuffed a bag of trash under his car in the fast food drive through. And the family who left behind bags and papers and diapers at the San Gabriel River when I was there to look at the dinosaur footprints. We carried a water bottle to put our cigarette butts in so as to not leave any trash behind. They left everything they didn’t want. They come into the store where I work and leave empty coffee cups and coke cans all over the lobby. I pay attention. I discriminate equally when it comes to litterers. I’m sorry if my statistics offend you, but the one thing I don’t do is make stuff up. I tell the truth. I’m telling you what I see but you don’t want to hear that.

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      • Ascenci0

        I understand Mexicans are dirty fair but just the way you have seen people be dirty i’v seen Mexican’s be dirty i’v seen White people be dirty i’v seen black be dirty, Asians etc.. Like i said you can’t blame one specific race and stay consetrated in one race.. I can make a list to with all the dirty things people have done and that list will never finish just like yours but im not coz were is it going to go.. No where i just want to say Everyone is dirty everyone makes a mess i’v seen it to just like you have

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        • JenniferNie

          @Ascenci0

          Absolutely correct! That would be just plain silly. There are a lot of Beverly Hillbilly’s around. LOL!

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      • JosephSerrano

        @seejaymouser Going only by what you see can lead one to make false conclusions about an entire population from seeing as small sample of that population. I can also come up with a list of white folks and black folks I’ve seen littering but that doesn’t mean that all white and black folks are dirty. I’m not saying that Mexicans never litter or what you see isn’t true, but I am saying it’s illogical to pick out one ethnic group and blame the bulk of the trash problem on them.

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        • seejaymouser

          @JosephSerrano

          What, you mean like saying that all Asians want to conquer the world and make it their empire, or that all Americans want the rest of the world to emmulate them?

          Okay, now that I got my dig in for Ascenci0, I’ll agree with you. : )

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        • Ascenci0

          @seejaymouser I never said Asians are going to conquer the world.. I said that they will be the next big Empire of the World our time is up past generations made bad mistakes and didn’t realize what was going on . Therefore America falls.. And its either China or Middle east.. Since middle east has majority of the oil left… and is you agree with me sarcasm or you really agree i couldn’t figure it out =S

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        • JosephSerrano

          @seejaymouser :]

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        • seejaymouser

          @Ascenci0

          Understood, I’m having a little trouble with your last sentence as well. When I said “I agree with you” I was addressing Joseph. The reference to your remarks was to illustrate that I am not the only one who appears to lump people in categories.

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        • Ascenci0

          @seejaymouser Ohh with the Asian thing.. well i’m not lumping them in a category its the truth there next for the biggest empire or middle east like i said.. Its not and opinion its a fact

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        • seejaymouser

          @Ascenci0

          Some people would say that the things I am saying are also facts.

          And round and round and round we go …

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        • Ascenci0

          @seejaymouser It is though search it up and with Americanization to it’s a fact and its funny to because there trying to take that away from education i wonder why, as well as Columbus and 9/11 but those are completely diff. stories..

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  • cc0623
    • JenniferNie

      @cc0623

      Hi cc0623, iI like much of what we spoke about, but do not like this petition and am surpised and saddend that you signed it, but it is your right so I respect it. :( There’s got to be a better way. Jen

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  • Ascenci0

    Why do people always assume, Its Mexicans fault for Obama being voted Mexicans make up 9% i repeat 9% of the votes.. White make up 74%..Yes 67% of Latinos voted for Obama BUT they make up 9% of the VOTERS!..look for yourselves.Stop blaming people and take responsibility and guess what at the end of the day White people elected Bush what do you guys say to that..http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/exit-polls.html

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    • seejaymouser

      @Ascenci0

      Why do people always assume that people always assume ANYTHING? Obama got elected because he had a smart campaign manager who managed to swing the votes of people barely out of high school by lying to them. And he’s trying the same tactic this time around by promising to forgive educational debts. And I assume that people are just stupid enough to fall for it again, like they did the first time around. This is why Obama got elected ..

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      • Ascenci0

        Exactly as i said to Jen.. The news make you believe things they take away your sight and they make you see what they want you to see!.. Just like your News cast you did.. Your blaming Mexicans yet it’s not just Mexicans it’s white’s,Blacks,Mexicans,Asian….And you said you have done your research well guess what you didn’t go deep enough and you didn’t connect the dots.. You just researched what you wanted to research and what you want to believe in exactly why you said whatever to my post about the FBI that’s true stats you JUST DON’T WANT TO SEE IT!.. America was great until corps moved away.. Until big bushiness moved away.. until we stooped being the inventors that past Americans have been… And now we have this crap instead of moving away from industrialization were still in it..Why?? because they make you fear that Technology is a bad way to go..They make you believe that College and education is the only way to be successful. They make you believe that America is great and IT ISN’T it never HAS BEEN.. RESEARCH RESEARCH.. You talk about the Latino vote is so important.. the Latino vote is OVERRATED they CONTROL 9%!!.. You talk about trash yet you stay centered to the border!!! Have you been to a rave a party a parade etc?? you know how much trash is left in those events!!?? You say Health Concerns YET MEXICANS ARE 10% or more LESS LIKELY TO GET CANCER, Diabetes,AIDS,HIV,INFLUENZA, STROKES..You know who created Aids? YOU WHITE PILGRIMS DID! WHEN THE FIRST WHITE MEN CAME THEY RAPED SO MANY INDIAN WOMEN WHICH CREATED INFECTIONS AND BAMMM AIDES AND HIV AND STDS!!!!!!! RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH!!!!!(I GOT A LOT MORE TO SAY)

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        • seejaymouser

          @Ascenci0

          Well try saying it with a little more control. As long as you insist on skimming my posts and just reacting to your target words, I am not going to discuss with you. I haven’t mentioned the Latino vote except in reply to someone else. My newscast post is just one of many like it, and I posted it in response to why Obama was elected.

          And just so you know, cancer, diabetes and strokes are not communicable diseases. Not like Chagas disease. Have you researched that to find out where it came from and why there are 18 million cases in the US when there were never any before? And the very first person I met who had diabetes was named Rodriguez. He was the father of my best friend.

          I’m not doing anything you are not doing, I am researching to make my points, just as you are. And I thought you were out of here a week ago, what happened?

          You more trash talk, I’ll give it to you. I made the miserable mistake of going to the lake on Cinco De Mayo. I didn’t realize what weekend it was. Needless to say the park was almost all Hispanics. They had their boats where people were swimming, against the law and safety regs. They sat and watched as their trash blew into the lake. When they left at the end of the day the whole park looked like a dump ground. Dirty diapers, cans, paper plates, you name it, just left. I have seen these things with my own eyes so don’t tell me I’m a victim of slanted media.

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        • seejaymouser

          @Ascenci0

          Well try saying it with a little more control. As long as you insist on skimming my posts and just reacting to your target words, I am not going to discuss with you. I haven’t mentioned the Latino vote except in reply to someone else. My newscast post is just one of many like it, and I posted it in response to why Obama was elected.

          And just so you know, cancer, diabetes and strokes are not communicable diseases. Not like Chagas disease. Have you researched that to find out where it came from and why there are 18 million cases in the US when there were never any before? And the very first person I met who had diabetes was named Rodriguez. He was the father of my best friend.

          I’m not doing anything you are not doing, I am researching to make my points, just as you are. And I thought you were out of here a week ago, what happened?

          You want more trash talk, I’ll give it to you. I made the miserable mistake of going to the lake on Cinco De Mayo. I didn’t realize what weekend it was. Needless to say the park was almost all Hispanics. They had their boats where people were swimming, against the law and safety regs. They sat and watched as their trash blew into the lake. When they left at the end of the day the whole park looked like a dump ground. Dirty diapers, cans, paper plates, you name it, just left. I have seen these things with my own eyes so don’t tell me I’m a victim of slanted media.

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        • Ascenci0

          I was gone for while but came back.. i still emails from the site for some reason and decided to read a few and they irritated me so i came back…And i’m not skimming your post’s i’m stating and replying to everything you say..And the Latino vote thing wasn’t just intended to you it was intended to everyone that believes that it controls the U.S election for President… And again i know you understand that The news make’s people see things which is why Obama won and which is why i think Cain wins next year… and Diabetes like i said Mexicans are 10% less likely to get diabetes compared to white’s..The reason why i mentioned those is because there the once most people talk about…And you said none are communicable what about STD’s?..And i didn’t know about Chagas but i researched it right now and it ain’t in Mexico it comes from Central and South America, which the disease starts out from an insect.. Which migrated from Africa..and around 100,000 people in the United States have it…You went to the lake in Cinco De mayo.. Well i went to the park in 4th of July and the park wasn’t so clean either same situation paper plates, pizza, bites of food on the ground, plastic bags etc.. Trash all over the place and even worse a guy was actually taking a shit next to a tree and he wasn’t Mexican or Asian etc he was white… So i’m not saying Mexican’s are cleaner than anyone everyone is dirty and makes a mess there is no one in specific to blame but everyone not a certain race..

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        • seejaymouser

          @Ascenci0

          Well, I don;t know where you’re from, but I doubt it’s Texas and maybe that’s the problem, because here in Texas we take pride in keeping a clean state, ever heard of the slogan ‘Don’t Mess With Texas’? It’s literal.

          Your words – “And you said none are communicable…”

          What I said was diabetes, strokes and cancer are not communicable diseases. And I never said Chagas disease in the US was from Mexico I said it was from illegal aliens entering the country without being health screened. Any other misquotes you want to throw my way? Now tell me again you are not skimming my posts.

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        • JenniferNie

          Ascenci0, Hi it’s me Jen, I have meant to get mack to you and a few others but got busy. I know there is a lot of posting going on here, the post I received from you in may email was surprizing, I think you may have responded to Seejay or someone else?? I say that because we have not really conflicted in the past, just in the beginning when I pointed out to go to my first post and then I believed we were clear on things. I have not blamed Hispanics at all. I am For Ron Paul, and I know some Ron Paul supporters like RP’s stance on Illegal Immigration and some do not and some here that are on the fence here actaully have described Ron Pauls current Plan which I am sure will have more detail in time but is pretty straight forward. I see right through the media, I know it is contolled or sensored.

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        • JenniferNie

          @Ascenci0

          Same thing I did! :) I thought I would check back in to respond to a few. I got an email and thought you sent it to me, but now I just saw your other post and now know it was not directed at me. I did not thinks so :) Continue to read my latest posts, because I am our of here afer that, you can continue to contact me if you want, just repy and I’ll see in memail or FB. Thanks Jen

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        • JenniferNie

          @Ascenci0

          There are definately people who do not want Ron Pual to get elected and know that he very well could if his message was not minimized by the media. My whole purpose for taking part here is because I know that changes regarding Illegal Immigration are inevitable and while I will vote for Ron Paul, I wanted feedback to have him consider adding into his Illegal Immigration Plan then I would like it better. I am so against prudice and hate, I do not like to see people suffer, I know that some people are victim of circumstance and while I know I might be criticized even by my fellow Ron Paul supporters for not just say Yeh, I am 100% for the RP plan, I am don’t care if people don’t like me or what i have to say, because I want a plan carried out that gives mercy or shows compassion for human beings and will ensure that great care and thought goes into teh process of legalizing people for the sake of the people, this country, everyones health and well being

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        • JenniferNie

          @Ascenci0

          I had hoped that some would respond to my last question the other day so I could send off the info to Ron Paul campaign. I was very dissapointed, I am sharing this with you and who ever wants to read our converstaion. Only a few came forward, Ron Paul supporters came forward some did not but did not slam me. I sent Off the Amnesty with a hitch thing taking into consideration All comments but the letter conisted of the of a a what if with a combination of Jacob Beasely and My plan and a few suggestions from some responders that actally favored it. This was to make Ron Pauls Plan more Paletable for me and for others. I know some people don;t have the guts to support the scnario because of being mocked. After spending 2 or 3 weeks on this I see the same people going around in circles on the same old thing. Some have left the conversation. It was my plan to leave as well after being respectful enough to anser everyone who has replied or sent messages to me. I have determined that there were a lot of people on this Ron Paul Immigration Page commenting through Livefyre and when I posted the message asking for help, not many responded.

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        • JenniferNie

          @Ascenci0

          When I posted that Ron Paul asked the other day for his supporters help to come forward and I posted teh simplest way people could support him I got no response, which tells me a made a few friends here and met some very intelligent people who offered very good points and contributed helpful information, but most did not. You have replied to many times and our discussion had been fine until the lst message that is why I think you may have been sending it to Seejay, because I know the two of you (now I know this was the case) were speaking about what seemed to be the topic for which you sent the reply.

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        • JenniferNie

          @Ascenci0

          Any how I also was surprised and not surprised who signed the Link with a petition yesterday and today to just throw all illegals out regardless of the circumstance. Those who SIGNED KNOW who they are and while I know there are problems, I am saddened that some have no heart, because if they really gave it thought, they would know that it is NOT a one size fits all. I have been active on other Ron Paul Web sites where I belong. It is with people who support Ron Paul and have open minds to discuss passing an idea along for the good of the people, Ideas to be considered. I never give up, I am no coward, I do not whine, when I have not even made an effort to make a difference

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        • JenniferNie

          @Ascenci0

          I believe in people. Next, and NOT speaking of you personally Ascenci0 , Some people are so opinionated, so closed minded they are so sure they are right, I always feel those are the miserable people who have some other Demon, so their aggressiveness and disregard for all human beings some how makes them feel better. I will continue on supporting Ron Paul through donation and volunteering, I hope those who talk, talk, talk, will actually do something productive and do it without hatred. I mentioned a clip from Condoleeza Rice she said” people who think people of a certain race should act a certain way, need to look deep within themselves at their own prejudice.” she fired this back at Hannity when he kept pressing her politely on Black issues, this statement was meant for all people, she said know one needs to tell her how to be black, she has been Black all of her life. She said” I don’t even go there because as long as I dont I win and the other person loses.” Good for her! Maybe it does not

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        • JenniferNie

          @Ascenci0

          This is a person in Office that is real, who cares about ALL people and she is brave, Her book is titled “With Honor” and she is proof that there all still people that dedicate their time to our Country 100% for the good of all people and that should give everyone here help, because while some should definitely be thrown out of office, there are still those that are worthy of the Job as they have earned it by their actions, and No one has earned the right to be President of The United States more than Ron Paul in 2012, his contributions and actions sooo far out weigh the others, it’s not even close.

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        • JenniferNie

          @Ascenci0

          IF anyone here wants a good Illegal Immigration Plan and all of the other Plans you will be presented with for that matter You will not get them…. if you do not understand and vote for Ron Paul… You will most likely be voting for an incompetent or most likely a Liar or a Candidate with no constitutional knowledge (Law) who does NOT know how to enforce the right thing and repeal the bad. I believe Ron Paul is a strict Constitutionalist, but he does listen to people and if there is a better method (more humane) or process in one of the procedures of part of an act that would be enacted, he would listen and go with the more humane option. I BELIEVE IN MY HEAR THIS IS TRUE.

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        • JenniferNie

          @Ascenci0

          Hey Ascenci0 sorry I kind of got carried away writing to everyone while responding to you. I know you get pissed (now that is not like me LOL!) but we can’t. We all have to have hope and think positive. Like I said every day I wish it will, and It will. No one knows what color I am, what hurdle I have had to over come in my life , many of us have had hurdles . WelI am White middle aged, female, I have been let down buy government funded programs when I was a victim of Violent Crime, a Random crime, I’m lucky to be alive, my life is still tough sometimes, but I suck it up and try to do things that will create positive results.

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        • JenniferNie

          @Ascenci0

          I was going to have Seejay help me proof the “what if plan” because she is supposedly a writer and her comments are well written as far as grammar and spelling go, but she has no interest as there was no response. That is ok that is her choice, but I realize she is not on the same band wagon with me, and while once asking me “who died and made me boss.” and that I somehow thought I was Den mother or commentator…. well I got to thinking, she said I had made 30 out of 50 posts, well I went way back and it seems to me maybe I stole her thunder, because prior to that she had a zillion posts, very opinionated and did not step up to the plate to answer my question even if it was “I do not like it”, or respond regarding volunteer post for Ron Paul, It seems like Seejay and many others who have joined in on here just sit on here and battle which makes me wonder why are they on here? Just to battle for 3 weeks, or to come up with solutions, Go battle on a NON Ron Paul page if your not for Ron Paul.,

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        • JenniferNie

          @Ascenci0

          PS I live in a Heavily populated hispanic town and I see that people walk to church evry sunday, their children are clean, their homes are clean, they save money, they always seem to smile, and like I said before, I know some are legal and some are not, but if they were gone my town would change and I would miss them, I would hate to think of the families being torn aprt and deported, because these people and people like them of other ethnics back grounds that have cuased no trouble should get expedited work permits and some get citizenship depending on the individuals situation. Anything less than that is heartless and anyone who disagrees is heartless and maybe you the heartless should move to another country if you think this one and its people are so bad. If you are not willing to go vote, if you are not willing to volunteer in your community or volunteer for a candidate that can make a differnece for the sole purpose of saving Our America, there is only one man Ron Paul. Do your homework people.

          Thanks again Asceni0

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        • seejaymouser

          @JenniferNie

          Good for you, you are now sounding like a real person. It’s not the number of your posts that was the real problem. It was the content ..

          “I’m not here right now, but I’ll come back later I promise ..”

          “My spelling is terrible …”

          “I have to work today but not tomorrow …”

          This is not the best system here, you reply to one person and it gets put in weird places, you reply to one person and it gets tagged to three people if you’re not careful. The only way to help with the confusion is to try and keep it short and sweet.

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        • seejaymouser

          @JenniferNie

          That is the problem with this country and I’m sorry to say it’s people who think like you do. I’m going to take your paragraph and change it a little …

          “PS I live in a Heavily populated town with many LAW BREAKERS and I see that some of their family walks to church evry sunday, their children are clean, their homes are clean, they save money, they always seem to smile, and like I said before, I know some are LAW BREAKERS and some are not, but if they were gone my town would change and I would miss them, I would hate to think of the families being torn aprt and deported, because these LAW BREAKERS and LAWBREAKERS of other ethnics back grounds that have cuased no trouble EXCEPT TO BREAK THE LAW BY ENTERING THIS COUNTRY WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION should get AWAY WITH BREAKING THE LAW and some get citizenship depending on the LAW BREAKERS situation.

          This is a lesson in perspective, you choose to look at the law breakers as “friends”. Most of us who were born in the 60s and grew up with REAL values, and REAL morals, know the difference.

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        • seejaymouser

          @JenniferNie

          http://cjmouser.com/

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        • seejaymouser

          @JenniferNie

          Well, some people rob banks because their mother needs a kidney and some rob banks because they want to retire to Hawaii. So the ones who are trying to get their mother a kidney should get special sentencing?

          How about this, anybody who is already here and who:

          Speaks English

          Has proof of at least one year of paying rent and utilities at the same address without violating their lease by moving 10 more people in with them.

          Flies the American flag and not the Mexico flag.

          Does not drive without a license/proof of insurance and valid vehicle registration.

          Has proof of filling income tax return …

          … can stay. How’s that?

          I bet if you dig into many of your neighbors daily lives and ask hard questions you would find that they are breaking many laws aside from just entering this country illegally. If it’s okay for you to be held to one standard while these fine people are not, then that’s okay for you. It’s not okay for me. You can not sneak into this country and live here without breaking many of our laws, it’s impossible. Show me an example of one person who is here illegally and is not breaking the law in many other ways and I will shut up.

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        • seejaymouser

          @JenniferNie

          Jennifer you said:

          Some people are so opinionated, so closed minded they are so sure they are right, I always feel those are the miserable people who have some other Demon, so their aggressiveness and disregard for all human beings some how makes them feel better.

          Okay, let’s try a little black and white therapy. Just answer these questions yes or no.

          Is entering this country without documentation against the law?

          Is it okay to break the law?

          Is it okay for some people to break some laws?

          Are some laws okay to break but not others?

          Because if illegals think it’s okay to trespass in this country, then maybe I think it’s okay to walk into your house and make myself at home whenever I please and it should be okay with you everybody else too.

          The problem with allowing some people to break some laws and even rewarding them for it, is that others find some laws that they think are unnecessary too and want the same privilege to choose which laws they want to disregard. There are some laws I disagree with too, but they are still laws whether I agree with them or not, and if I break them, I have to live with the consequences.

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        • Ascenci0

          @seejaymouser I’m from Socal and pretty much everyone in Socal is dirty Majority of the mess is in poverty place’s such as L.A… And that poverty isn’t just one certain race there’s Black,Mexicans and Whites.. and most of the homeless are White..and there homeless for a reason most of them not because there lazy some are but not all… Your right im not from Texas and i never have been in Texas and from a video my Teacher showed us learning about the 50 states Texas is very American i understand and the Majority of people living there are racist.. (most not all) this came from what professors and anylist said not me..its in the vid.. They take pride in what they do i know that.. Also people i know that lived in Texas have told me Texas is kinda racist not a lot but a little.. And again “illegal” immigrants are bringing chagas.. around 100,000 ppl in the U.s have it.. How about StDS, at least one person everyone knows has it who brought that over….

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        • Ascenci0

          @seejaymouser “Flies the American flag and not the Mexico flag.” Exact point of Americanization.. I was born in America and most of my family is from Mexico except cousins and a few uncles.. And i do fly the American flag but i fly the Mexican flag most of the time and im proud of it.. Ain’t nothing anyone gona do to make me stop doing so.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          I don’t know what you mean by I am now sounding like a real person, maybe blasting people and is NORMAL to you. I agree with you that the posting can be difficult and hard to follow when not done properly, but my posts are not the only posts that respons to others, besides I think we are all reading all of the posts so it is the messages getting out that is important. If someone wantes to respond to someone directly they can just go to one of their old posts. Yu have psted some pretty lengthy stuff yourself, or many small post so what’s the dif? I am not here to fight with people but I will respond to their responses directed to me or share my thoughts.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          I am a very busy person, I work and have a lot of responsibilty as do others. People who know me well know that I am very intelligent and I type sloppy and assume those around me can figure it out, but I do try and make an effort to minimize the mess. I love it, people used to think I was an air head in business, because I am soft spoken, but then I smoked them like they have never seen and broke company records and this everything I touch, but I am not a bragger, I thin we all have our strenghts in different areas so I never think I am better than others instead I try to learn from them and appreciate their good points and knowledge.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          I am polite and considerate, but tough and do not tolerate being treated poorley or seeing others being treated poorely, I stand up for them, always have always will! While you might spend your time trying to disprove or blow apart what others say on hear as if it is your mission, I don’t really see what you are accomplishing or contributing, so when you talk about my content not being sufficient, maybe it is just because it is so straight forward, black and white, and honest, that your closed mind can not comprehend it. Others seem to do ok with it. I have to agree with some of the others, you show what seems to be a bltent hatred for hispanics, I wonder how your son in law feels about that?

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          I dont know what color your eyes are, maybe Blue, what if it was discoverd that people with Blue eyes were more likely to carriers of a disease and they were shunned or even hated by some people. How would you like to be hated. You are full of hate Seejay, it is awful, you should really look in the mirror and ask yourself what kind of a person are you and who are you to judge others in the way you do. What do you contribute here anyway? It seems like you just like to argue and get people to jump on your hatred band wagon which most have not.

          I have family and friends in Texas, and they dont speak your way about Hispanics. I have never heard any of them mention Hispaics being dirty and having a littering problem?

          My mission on here is not to continually discuss hispanics, it is to dicuss the part of Illegal immigration that is Deportation Process and Policy and to support Ron Paul.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          I think my support of on Paul is my contribution, my encouragement and advice where to find out more on the topic, and to forward people’s thoughts on Illegal Immigration and Deportation for review by RP Campain, I am here to encourage people to do their part and open their minds to the human factor. How can you even compare my content to yours? My content is absolutely a contribution according to the above. Again, what is your Positive, Productive Contribution? Because I have chosen a different place to communicate with people I will finish my long posts answering your questions Seejay, I hope all will read. I will be spending most of my extra time educating people about Ron Paul and doing my volunteer work for the campaign.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          Funny People like me. I did not think you had a job because you are on here 24/7 with links and such that you post to try and disprove everyone instead of having discussions to find common ground, that is how PROGRESS is made! Talk about skimming messages, you either did not read all of my previous messages in their entirety or you were so closed minded you could not take some details in because it would be your nature preventing you from addressing something you did not want to accept.

          Get real when it comes to LAW BREAKERS and what I think, don;t be rediculous, you know in some cases the punishment does not fit the crime. Look back in your own posts, I believe you even said it.

          have you ever watched the movie Alcatraz? It is a true story, do you know what it is about? It is about a white guy who stole a loaf of bread because his sister was starving, an attorney volunteered his time for many years because the punishment did not fit the crime, Life in Prison for stealining a loaf of bread for his starving sister. They were vivtim of circumstance. Cont…

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          So yes, I do live where there are some LAW BREAKERS and some should be punished or deported, but I do believe they all have their individual circumstance that deserves consideration when looking at the punishment. In the “What If” scenarios that Jacob Beasley and I posted, We suggested, for comment a propsal that would at least give work permit from Jacob and Ctizenship or work permit by me dependin on the ‘CIRCUMSTANCE” and meeting a “CRITERIA”.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          Yes I do look at some of the LAW BREAKERS AS FRIENDS. I got carjacked, kidnapped and nearly beate nto death by a stranger, Legal citizen am I to call him a friend? Let me tell you, he was to get two life sentences under the State tried case, but the Feds took it and he got 18yrs with good behavior, I believe he gets out this year and guess what, he is a three striker who left a person for dead in a ditch and also stocked and kidnapped a 70 yr old woman at knife point while she sleepp in her bed, he carried her accross State line.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          The crime did not fit the punishment, You would send back an Illegal who worked, kept their yard clean, raised a family who are citizens who educated themselves in the same way our children do and now they work and pay taxes. That Parent deserves to be torn away from Her family and deported????? What the hell is wrong with you. But my Legal citizen a 3 striker is getting out, heck they even transferred him to a prison so he could be by his family. I do not feel sorry for myself at all infact I was offered assitance from a Gov Program that gave me a false sense of security, and rehibilitation, guess what at budget time they renigged on all of it, I got nothing, after tesifying in court infront of the creep and his low life family and now the creep knows my name and where I live. He had never worked a day in his life, he has sold drugs and committed crimes.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          People ought to consider this and all of the money the Government spends feeding these legal criminals and YOU want to deport the mother the so called LAW BREAKER I mentioned above well that is wrong, she deserves punishment that fits the crime or a type of amnest that Jacob and I mentioned like no citizenship but a work permit, or she has to achieve Citizenship while here in the US with no Deportation and then is subject to the legal system like everyone else. You should really consider this and so should anyone else who says DEPORT THEM ALL! Look at the TWO LAW BREAKERS just discussed. It is not a seperate issue when it is regarding, it is not apples and oranges when it comes to responsibility, the Human factor, the character of people. I wish there was a country where the Haters could live, because I don;t want haters in my country, there are far too many already!

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser There are many other factors that contribute to the deterioration of this Country besides Illegals, some contibuters that are just as bad or worse. dont tell me to do home homework BIMBO, I don’t need to do any home work, because I already have, I know what is factual, and so much of it is common sense, If you are Ignorant and you need to do homework, then do it, and more power to those who improve themselves and those who mentor them. This is why I support Ron Paul in Abolishing broken programs because there are many. This program couldn’t get me in for appt. because they were having a cup cake party while making 60k per year with pensions and benefits. I think my current posts really answer or disscredit the worthyness of a response to some of your other questions, but I will still address a few more of them. These posts are for those who want to read and also for the people who are just like you, closed minded, opinionated haters.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser I do agree with you that Hipanics should learn the engllish language and speak it out of repsct to the Citizens here that have made the effort to learn it. On the other hand, I do not know where you get your info so lets see a fact on that Seejay. You say ” Mexicans are demanding we speak their language in our Country”) That is BS, that is your opinion, Just like Free Market decides, It seems the US has decided to speak spanish and if they are catering to the Hispanic or Mexicans as you have been calling them, well how is that the Mexicans Fault.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          I managed a Company for Chinese American Citizens, They spoke in Chinese amonst them selves but in front of me. I am not paranoid, they were just speaking in their comfortable tounge, talking about the same things we all do. I was not offended. When they spoke to me or business partners they spoke in english, but it was choppy and not that perfected, because I think they were the first generation of their family to come to US and were adults so they did not learn english as children, making pronunciation more difficult. I am sure this is the same with many ethnic groups including Hispanic.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          I have never walked into a store where I was greeted in spanish, I think this would be very rare unless you went into a hispanic community and went into their corner store or something, I think you have grossly exagerated the NO speak english thing and that is disrespectful. I know it can be frustrating when there is difficulty communicating because of accent or pronunciation, but I can appreciate they try and would hope that someone whold be as curteous to me. I find if someone Hspanic is having trouble , they always get someone to help you.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          You talk about Mc Donalds and Pepsi, and make your sneid remarks, but you say you work in a store, I am sure the store sells similar products, but I bet you are not boycotting that store and encouraging others to do the same, so in a sense you speak out both sides of your mouth and you sound like hypocrite.

          Now about Mexicans, Now that is you that keeps saying Mexicans, I would say Illegals, because you seem to single out hispanics but OK i’ll just go with your word.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          Yes they may be commiting multible crimes such as the drivers license thing, it is a problem, that is why Illegal Immigration is a main topic in the GOP Debates becuase it is what many are concerned about, they want a fix. You know a lot of this is the Governments fualt too, The Red Tape to expedite the process, the lip service with no reslults on securing the Border, The drivers license thing has been so controversial and no license means you can not get insurance, but if you can’t get through Red tape to get a work permit to get the drivers license to get the insurance you GET ILLEGAL DRIVERS!!!! and by the way we have tons of them, and they are not Illegal. I suppose you suppport the $16 cup cake?

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          I see in you last post you sort of put a what if as if to apease me or be sarcastic sho know? anyway you aksed

          How about this, anybody who is already here and who:

          Speaks English

          Has proof of at least one year of paying rent and utilities at the same address without violating their lease by moving 10 more people in with them.

          Flies the American flag and not the Mexico flag.

          Does not drive without a license/proof of insurance and valid vehicle registration.

          Has proof of filling income tax return …

          … can stay. How’s that?

          AGAIN!, i proposed a criteria, and yes English would be one of them of course,

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          Answers to SEEJAYS questions continued.. when people take their Citizenship test, you know it is in English Right? You know they have to read and write some english to pass it right? well don’t you think if the select that met the criteria of becomming citizens would have to learn to speak and write english in order to pass?

          Flag- Now this is really stupid Seejay, I don’t see camps of Illegals flying the Mexican Flag do you? Does anyone here reading this see that? I do see Mexicans fly American Flags and sometimes they have a red green and white flag or flag of Mexico, so what if they are proud of their heritage you have a problem with that? You can’t accept that a Mexican or other Loves America but are proud of their Heritage and like to celebrate it? You are not ok with that? Who are you to say that is ok or not? Rember, you have had a life time to learn things and you have an advantage over some, what you choose to use that advantage for is up to you. Hopefully it is for good not bad.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          This is why my proposal makes sense, it improves things for ALL of uf us. I already explained the Red tape work permit Driver license thing, IT”S THE SAME SITUATION. better for ALL

          Dont you think that many Illegals who have worked here for years, not commiting crimes (other than Coming here) want to be citizens and pay taxes,so they are treated better and have better chance of receiving competetive wages. As one of our good friends mentioned before it is not easy living here, they get far less wage than we do and they are exploited and can not seek out the Legal system for help well I suppose they could but they live in fear so most wont. Those same people come into your store and spend the little money they have, contributing to your store staying in business so you have a job. This goes for everyone.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          This is all of the time I have for you Seejay, I would not say I dislike you, and I don’t know that you care, you have made a few good points and you have been nice at times, but 98% of the time you are unrealistic, cruel and hard headed, but I know there is some good in you, a nice person, you just need to dig a little more of it out of yourself and open your mind.

          Ron Paul wants to Abolish the income tax, crack down on government spending etc. so we can have a better future, why don’t you focus on something like that

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          This is why my proposal makes sense, it improves things for ALL of uf us. I already explained the Red tape work permit Driver license thing, IT”S THE SAME SITUATION. better for ALL

          Dont you think that many Illegals who have worked here for years, not commiting crimes (other than Coming here) want to be citizens and pay taxes,so they are treated better and have better chance of receiving competetive wages. As one of our good friends mentioned before it is not easy living here, they get far less wage than we do and they are exploited and can not seek out the Legal system for help well I suppose they could but they live in fear so most wont. Those same people come into your store and spend the little money they have, contributing to your store staying in business so you have a job. This goes for everyone.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          This is all of the time I have for you Seejay, I would not say I dislike you, and I don’t know that you care, you have made a few good points and you have been nice at times, but 98% of the time you are unrealistic, cruel and hard headed, but I know there is some good in you, a nice person, you just need to dig a little more of it out of yourself and open your mind.

          Ron Paul wants to Abolish the income tax, crack down on government spending etc. so we can have a better future, why don’t you focus on something like that, somethiing that makes a difference.

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        • JenniferNie

          @seejaymouser

          I am not singling out only you, this goes for others who may behave the same way with a closed mind that should try to learn from others for a change and find some compassion.

          Thaaaaaaaaaaank goodnesss I am done with Seejay’s questions!

          For any of you who want to be my friend on Face book look me up, or visit me on Ron Paul Face Book Page you can enter comments on the Wall and read Ron Paul updates. You can click read all commenst off to the right side of the wall to communicate with supporters, Take care. Jen

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        • JosephSerrano

          @seejaymouser@JenniferNie Those actually not bad terms, except for the one about flying the nations flag. The government has no law saying you must fly our flag and not others (nor should they) so that’s unconstitutional. I can give you an example of someone who had to sneak into this country and broke no laws after that, my grandparents. They came here to work in the fields and they did for years. The got their green cards and had to sneak their kinds in from Mexico. Besides that one instance of having to break the law, they never did after that. They learned English and became citizens. Also, demonizing undocumented immigrants by calling them law breakers is illogical because technically you’re lumping them together in a big group with criminals who are guilty of heinous crimes. Have you ever received a parking ticket? What about a speeding ticket? Does that mean you are also a law breaker? I hope you see my point.

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        • JosephSerrano

          @JenniferNie Hey there Jen I can’t find your What If plan, sorry for not reading it earlier I have been busy studying for midterms.

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        • JenniferNie

          @Ascenci0

          Hmmmm? I seems by the last few posts there might be some back peddling going on here by Seejay. It seems some, according to some posts might actually think I did answer Seejays questions and saw in a video and she has hear that people form Texas… We all know that so much of Youtube and video has been altered, and Home Made and News video only gives the points that that specific media want heard, but agian I have to say some reasearch is better than no research and one can find some good info from these sources but i would be careful spouting off about them as if one had a first hand account of the situation, some are not real.. carry on:)

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        • JenniferNie

          @JosephSerrano

          Hey Joseph, How r u. I will have to go back in time and paste it to you. The plan Seejay threw out there was mocking my plan, so I hope you know I was foanswering the questions in way that was a defencse for the what if plan and wht I believe in. Not sure if the Flag thing was for me or Seejay, I think it must have been for Seejay. I have to get off here today, but I will find it over the wwekend, Think you can ge the gist of it by reading Seejay and I disagree. Good luck on your Exams. Jen Friend me on FB if u want.

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        • JosephSerrano

          @seejaymouser I was checking out your website and noticed that you are advertising a country artist Bobby Dale. Well I love country! Is there any way I can preview his stuff?

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        • JosephSerrano

          @seejaymouser I was looking over your website when I noticed you were advertising a country artist named Bobby Dale. Well I love country! Is there anyway I can preview any of his stuff?

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        • JosephSerrano

          @seejaymouser@JenniferNie oops! noticed a typo. It should be “sneak in their kids”, not kinds.

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        • seejaymouser

          @JosephSerrano

          I’m not really advertising him, he’s my sister’s husband and he’s done a lot to help me out so I put him on my web site. His brothers are also on there at the San Antonio Rose. But yes, if you click on the link that says CD Baby and then click on preview under his picture, it will take you to previews of his songs. Be forewarned, he’s old school and very … very … country. And by the way I posted the link in response to ” supposedly being a writer.”

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    • JenniferNie

      @Ascenci0

      I have to LOL! on this one too. It’s like the guy is so bad and the Country is such a mess not getting any better that I bet many people cringe at the thought of saying “Heeey, Yeaaah, I voted for the Guy.” I probably should not poke fun but when I read your post it was the first think that went through my mind.

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  • B_Niles

    I hope we get someone in soon. So we can stop the unconstitutional health care bill. I don’t think we can recover the debt it’s almost too far gone. Obama cleary has no idea how to run anything. The man has barely ever even worked. How can a man respect the working class if he’s never been a part of it. Ron I hope you can get in there and clean up congress. It’s almost like they keep spending money purposely to break the economy. Someone please try and do something. If we become a communist nation. Then what was the point of fighting against it in the past. Thanks.. Brian Niles.

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  • JenniferNie

    Hi All, My typing and spelling was horrid! I hope you were able to read through it. This time I pasted it and it hope you could figure in which order the posts went. Tried to bust it out during work. Sorry.

    Please do answer the Illegal Immigration questions if you don’t mind, the more the better so when I send it off it will be at it’s best. I will have one of you or all proof me before I send it to RP. Thanks Jen

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  • Mario A.C.

    Still, I will say, POWER TO THE PEOPLE and to OUR GOOD NATION! MAY WE ALL PROSPER even in this clear and present danger! May we wake up and truly get a grip of what has been happening all along! Though a warning to those in power and who want to change what the big boys have been up to, wear a bullet proof vest and helmet, with eyes all around and even a bullet proof groin sack. Good luck amigos.

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