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Can Ron Paul help the red states to secede from the union??
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Ah, they are showing their true colors now.
Good.
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I sure am going to miss you this election…there’s a noticable lack of a good candidate for our president. I wish you had stayed in.
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November 3, 2008
From the Office of the Chief of The Original Cherokee Nation (TOCN)
BULLETIN REGARDING THE CURRENT ELECTION
The EDUCATIONAL AND AWARENESS CAMPAIGN was initiated by TOCN in 2002, pursuant to the DECLARATION executed in Washington, DC in 1999. That campaign is consistent with the RECLAIM AMERICA campaign which was started in the early 1990’s.
U.S. CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT
The founding document of the United States is the U.S. CONSTITUTION which was ratified by enough States in 1789 to place the document into effect.
ARTICLE I, SECTION 7 of said constitution provides that all revenue bills are to originate in the House of Representatives. It also provides that the Senate can amend such bills as in other cases.
The purpose of the provision relates back to England, assuring that revenue bills would originate in the governing body “Closest to the Purse.” In other words, the body which represents the People in General, being the primary source for the revenue, would be the body having the right to decide whether to originate such a bill.
How did the current BAILOUT PACKAGE get passed?
First, a Bill consisting of three pages was submitted to the House of Representatives (House), which was soundly defeated, one basis being that it amounted to simply writing a “Blank Check” in the amount of $750 Billion to the Secretary of the Treasury.
Then a 100 page bill was submitted to the House which was narrowly voted down.
Thirdly, the Senate took a bill which had been previously passed by the House the previous Spring, but which had not been acted on by the Senate, erased everything after the ENABLING CLAUSE, and inserted the 100 page bill which the House had previously rejected, adding the increase in the FDIC insurance amount from $100 Thousand to $250 Thousand. The Senate also added some 350 pages of various items which opponents of the original efforts would likely support. That “AMENDED BY WAY OF SUBSTITUTION” bill was then passed by the Senate and subsequently ratified by the House.
That is how the Senate got a revenue bill through the House. Did the bill originate in the House, the primary intent and purpose of which the House had already rejected? How could such a bill be construed as an AMENDMENT?
Some of the money ($125 Billion) was initially disbursed to the larger banks, “hoping” that it would be used for lending, but the news was that the banks would use the money to buy up smaller banks. It was included in the bill that the money could be used to BAILOUT foreign banks.
It is pointed out that the Senate represents the State governments, with two Senators from each State, regardless of the size of the State. The House represents the People by District. Neither the House nor the Senate can pass a law without the consent of the other.
POLITICIANS AND STATESMEN
It is said that everyone knows that a POLITICIAN will lie and, therefore, that it is alright for politicians to lie. In at least one AMERICAN GOVERNMENT class, what was taught was how to get votes. Of course, that involves what to tell to which group. The class was taught by an elected official.
A STATESMAN would be expected to keep his word and especially his OATH OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.
I submit to you that there was a line drawn between POLITICIANS and STATESMEN in the BAILOUT PACKAGE.
THE UPCOMING ELECTION
Tomorrow, voters will choose between POLITICIANS and STATESMEN. They will either vote for the person who has promised them the most with great swelling words, or they will vote for the STATESMEN who keep their oath to uphold and support the U.S. Constitution.
The election is an opportunity to place the U.S. Government back in compliance with the U.S. CONSTITUTION.
The voting record on the BAILOUT can be accessed on the Senate and House websites.
Persons who support the U.S. CONSTITUTION have a clear signal available to them as to where said officials stand.
I submit to the People that there is the opportunity tomorrow to put persons in office who stood steadfast against violating their oath and principles. It is a known fact that both major party candidates made a trip to Washington and voted for the BAILOUT BILL. Candidates are available who did not vote for that bill.
Your vote does count. If you really want a CHANGE, you can take advantage of this opportunity and put the federal government back in the hands of the AMERICAN PEOPLE.
Dale Cook, Chief of TOCN
WITH THE INTERNET, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPREAD THIS LETTER AROUND THE WORLD AND TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION TOMORROW. DON’T BE MISLEAD BY THE DEMOCRAT/REPUBLICAN/ INDEPENDENT CONCEPT. THE REAL BALANCE OF POWERS IS BETWEEN THE SENATE AND HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. VOTE TO KEEP THAT POWER CONSTITUTIONAL.
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morgan-
goto youtube and search for ron paul, there are an infinite number of videos.
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I would like to meet and see if my concept intrests you.
i would like to bring jobs back to the good old
U S A by make it law for any bussness ( sprint, and some of the internet services making money here needs to employ united states people here for their support sytem all of it not in some other contry
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Ron Paul was on Alex Jones’s show a week or so ago. The day the first bailout got voted down. I had never heard of him, but I listened to his show & liked it. I would recommend checking it out. His podcast is free, & the web site is http://www.infowars.com. Alex can be a little radical. But I found that once you check out the documents he cites, he is pretty accurate with his information. . . which is pretty scary. But it’s definately an eye opener. Dr. Paul seems to agree with most of what Alex has to say.
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Ron Paul,
I really think libretarian is the bomb. Im only 11 and trying to get in to politics. I think you are really doing great. You should definetly get a share with Republican and Democrat on TV and get more popular. But otherwise, I have been reading your changes but they are really big and confusing. So I just have a few questions that matter to me,
1. Are you lowering taxes? If so for EVERYONE(unlike Obama)?
2. Are you lowering gas prices?
3. What are your main plans for the Bailout Bill?
P.S. Come to Daytona Florida!!!!!!!
Please reply Thanks,
Morgan
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To PA guy:
I did the math.
$85,000,000,000.00 divided by 200,000,000 equals only $425.00
$700,000,000,000.00 divided by 200,000,000 equals $3,500.00
It’s still way too much to ask of each one of us to bail out Wall Street fat cats, but not as much as you have been led to believe.
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This was sent to me in an email and really made me think!
WHAT IF THIS WAS $700 BILLION AS NOW PROPOSED FOR BANKS. ??DO THE MATH………..
Sounds like a good plan to me!!
I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in
a We Deserve It Dividend.
To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000
bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman
and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
We Deserve It Dividend.
Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife has $5 95,000.00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college – it’ll be there
Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car – create jobs
Invest in the market – capital drives growth
Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean or else
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s real ly do it…instead of trickling out
a puny $1000.00 economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.
If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG – liquidate it.
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.
Sure it’s a crazy idea that can work.
But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
We Deserve It Dividend more than the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .
And remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.
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TO THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
REGARDING: H.R. 1424; A CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGE
All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills. U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 7, Paragraph 1.
It is understood that the purpose of this provision dates back to the English parliamentary requirement that all revenue raising bills start from the British House of Commons; to ensure that the “power of the purse” lies with the body closest to the people.
It is traditional that when the Senate tries to usurp the CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY of the House, the House will BLUE SLIP the Bill.
In this case, the Senate is attempting to get its legislation passed by taking an existing Bill (H.R. 1424 ) which has been passed by the House and using that Bill as a vehicle in an attempt to pass its own Bill, by a move called an AMENDMENT.
An AMENDMENT is, “An amelioration of the thing without involving the idea of any change in substance or essence.” Van Deusen v. Ruth, 343 Mo. 1096, 125 S.W.2d 1, 3.
The Senate’s action on this bill does not meet that definition. Rather, it is a CONGLOMERATION OF BILLS.
The Separation of Powers between the Senate and House is one of the strongest BALANCE OF POWERS in the U.S. CONSTITUTIONAL SYSTEM.
There are TWO elected BRANCHES of government, the Senate and House of Representatives. The Three Branch concept was created by the “Third Branch.”
The Senate is to represent the interest of the State Government, which is why there are two Senators from each State, regardless of the size or population of said State.
The House is to Represent the People by District.
Neither can pass a law without the consent of the other.
The power to raise Revenue and Appropriate funds is to remain in the hands of the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. This power should not be wrested from the hands of the People.
To protect its CONSTITUTIONAL POWER and to protect against a Constitutional Challenge, the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES can BLUE SLIP the “amended” H.R. 1424.
Sincerely, Dale Cook, Chief of The Original Cherokee Nation (TOCN) P.O. Box 9808, Chattanooga, TOCN 37412 423-825-5660
ALL SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES HAVE SWORN TO UPHOLD THE
U.S. CONSTITUTION.
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Ok, I have a dumb question here. Supposedly we the people own this country. How is it we spend a major part of our lives and a large part of our money on housing. There is so much vacant land in this country. Land that no one is using. I think as Americans we should be able to make use of this land. Home steading should be allowed. Think of all the disposable income it would generate and strengthen the economy. On the other side of the spectrum there should be a limit oon how much any one person can own. Why would any one pwerson need 750,000 acres of land.
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Dorothy Brasch , Stop here for a moment. Masons get a bad wrap here. All Mason’s are not devil worshiping freaks hell bent on destruction. To say that the Mason’s worship Satan is equivalent to calling all Catholics Pediphiles. It is nonesense, sure some people and groups might have used the organization for their own agenda, but thes things happen. Secondly, women cannot be Mason’s.
Third, Many of our presidents were Masons even the first president George Washington. You should worry more about the Council on Foreign Relations.
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The American middle class needs to UNIONIZE! Forget a new party, forget “change” and all that “you-know-what”. We simply need to unionize and have a union leader.
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If all the American people tore up their credit cards and ceased to pay the bills on them, what would they do?? This is what needs to be done so that we can take control! We need a person who can lead the people into control and DO THIS! They DO NOT need to be elected as president! All they need is the majority to follow them!
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If the U.S. financial system is to regain its health, immediate action must be taken to force hedge funds and private equity to be registered with the SEC.
Accountability must be restored.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBJ7NSmKAgY
This video is by Bill Parish, for those that are unfamiliar with him here is a link to http://www.billparish.com.
Be sure to watch this short video and others on his youtube account and get familiar with the real culprits and the problems they have caused and the real cures that are needed.
Tax payers do not need to put one red cent in any bail out which not only will never work, but will rob them and lead to hyper inflation which will destroy the country for the benefit of the few.
This is not rocket science once you understand what is really going on.
That is if you care.
peace!
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THE FOLLOWING LETTER SUPPLEMENTS THE PRESS RELEASE PREVIOUSLY POSTED ON THIS WEB PAGE.
October 1, 2008
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
U.S. CONGRESS is faced with the possibility of coming to the aid of the U.S. ECONOMY by passing a “RESCUE” Bill.
Such a Bill should not only help the failing financial institutions, but should also help the general public, including the victims of Sub-Prime and Predatory Lending Practices.
A proposal has been promulgated in a PRESS RELEASE, a copy of which is included at the end of this letter which follows the guidelines of said proposal.
The approach is basically a Chapter 13 concept, where
1. Creditors will receive a reasonable amount for the Securities which are purchased,
2. The purchased Securities are repaid by the Debtors on an Equitable Basis,
3. A Six Months payment delay is enjoyed by said Creditors, equivalent to a Stimulus Package (worth around $5000 per family in many cases) which will be injected into a flailing economy and
4. The Taxpayers will receive a reduction of their Income Tax liability.
It would also be practicable that, in order to participate in the program, the Debtors be required to attend economic management counseling, as is presently required for Chapter 13 Debtors.
Sincerely, Dale Cook, Chief of The Original Cherokee Nation (TOCN)
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PRESS RELEASE
September 28, 2008
RECOMMENDATION TO U.S. CONGRESS
REGARDING
BAILOUT (SUB-PRIME BUYOUT)
A PLAN FOR THE PEOPLE AND THE MARKET c2008 TOCN
It is time to start running the U.S. Government as a Non-Profit Corporation for the benefit of the People, pursuant to the U.S. Constitution.
The following concept is geared to pull out from the mainstream market the high risk Securities which have resulted from Sub-Prime Lending and Easy Credit. If the adopted plan is not solid, both the business man and the public are likely to suffer.
RAISING THE FUNDS
The money should be raised by issuance of U.S. Treasury Notes, not T-Bills which pay interest. There will be NO INTEREST on Treasury Notes and the National Debt will not be increased. (The People will love it.) (Treasury Notes are not to be confused with T-Bills which must be paid back with interest. T-Bills would draw investment money away from Stock Investments.)
The funds should be appropriated to the Special Management Agency (SMA), set up by U.S. Congress simultaneously with the appropriation bill.
The SMA will be responsible for purchasing Sub-Prime Securities, managing the collection thereon and disbursing the revenue to the Internal Revenue Service.
PURCHASE PRICE
The purchase price for Sub-Prime Securities should be determined on a Sliding Scale, considering the company’s history leading up to the current situation. A large percentage reduction factor is to be applied where Internal FRAUD is involved, including excessive retirement packages.
Securities valuation should not exceed the original indebtedness. Excessive interest should be marked off.
Executive salaries should be considered in comparison to that of the U.S. Executive Officer. A Securities valuation percentage reduction factor is to be inversely applied in adjusting for the Corporate Executive/U.S. Executive Officer ratio.
COLLECTION ON SUB-PRIME SECURITIES
The value set as the Principle balance of the securities, after purchase by the SMA, should be the amount which was paid by the SMA.
The Interest Rate should be set at Prime Rate plus a Margin.
Debtors should be given six months without a payment. This time is necessary for setting up the structure of the SMA and will give some breathing room for the indebted family. The money which normally goes for payments on debts within said six months will, instead, be spent into the consumer market. Persons with Home Mortgages will be required to keep insurance current to protect the investment of the SMA and the People.
THE REVENUE
All monies collected on the Securities held, including Principal and Interest, should be applied to the Income Tax Debt of the People.
Dale Cook, Chief of
The Original Cherokee Nation
P.O. Box 9808
Chattanooga, TOCN 37412
423-825-5660
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I can’t help but read some of these blogs of hatred against Ron Paul. Cmon people! Lets pretend here that Ron Paul never existed…go back in to time and question yourself. Why was the IRS created, what is the real objective of the Federal Reserve System? Just do a bit more research, and you will find out for yourself something not far from the truth. More than half of the nations population is ignorant and has been for some time. I can guarentee you that people pay taxes not knowing where the money goes, how it is spent, and why it is being taken from us. If americans did a little bit more research we would end up with many angry yet educated people. Open your eyes! The easiest route is to believe a lie, but God gave us a brain and a will to either step back or pursue right action. Always question who holds your prosperity in their hands. Question the motives, and question even Ron Paul if you have to. This isn’t about who holds the title “president”… this is about a revolution! This about becoming more knowledgable and gaining our rights. This is all Ron Paul’s message….
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Quoting Jimmy Crackel May 21st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
i am a sophmore in collge and my major is education and i was wonder what would happen to education in the country if your voted president
This has to be a joke: sophomore and college misspelled; I was wonder? …if your voted…; Learn English, Jimmy.
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Ron – Please accept Barr’s request and be his VP. I would love to see these two great minds together on a ticket!
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Im very upset at many of the posts on this website. Ron Paul uses the constitution as his guide. Inside the constitution it specifically recognizes the separation of church and state. This means that neither God nor any religious beliefs of any kind should determine what happens within this country’s government. The government doesn’t tell religious groups how to worship and therefore religious groups should not tell the government how to govern.
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“Separation of Church and State” is not in the Constitution, radical liberal.
See, Libertarians are liberals.
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Ann Smith
His choice McCain/Palin
That isn’t what he said unto me.
He did reveal to me, that Jesus fellow was a Ptolemy myth ‘Serapis’.
Also that painting that repesents that Jesus myth is a blasphemous portrait by Leonardo Da Vinci of his lover Cesare Borgia the son of Pope Alexander VI. Cesare Borgia raped his sister Lucrezia and killed her husband the duke of Bisceglie among other nasty things.
Stick to the Old Testament King James version only, the rest are false and YHWH is gonna punish the wicked that follow them.
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I just can’t let a comment like that go. Ann, the sooner you take your life into your own hands and stop blaming God for everything the better. That kind of extreamist jargon is the reason people are dying in the Middle-East. Seriously, read your comments logically and if they make sense go see a Psycologist, for your sake and your family’s.
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Mr. Paul, You have a little knowledge, but if you have a relationship with Jesus, the Holy Spirit would be showing you what He is doing in these last days. Remember we are not under the law, we are under grace. It is obvious that you are not God’s choice for president, so that means He has other plans and purposes. Why don’t you back His choice McCain/Palin and trust what He will do. By not supporting McCain you are giving the enemy ammunition and going against what the Lord is trying to do. Either you have not received the Holy Spirit and you are operating under the law or you are not in touch or listening to what He is saying and doing. I pray that you will receive a revelation of the truth that will set you free. In His Service wherever I am.
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The U.S. had no Vice President from April 12, 1945, to Jan, 20, 1949, and the government functioned smoothly without one. Congress did not even THINK of changing the order of succession because Nelson was not ready to be APPOINTED king yet.
Crown prince Nelson realized that even though he owned the country, his serfs did not want to vote for him. He could never reach the White House through the ballot box and that left only a military takeover . . . or an APPOINTMENT to the position.
The 25th Amendment or the Rockefeller Amendment made the 1947 Order of Succession NULL AND VOID because the President was given the power to APPOINT a Vice President if the Vice President died or was forced to resign.
According to the terms of this Amendment, if Ford had a timely demise in ’75 or ’76, Rockefeller was still eligible to serve 2 full terms or 8 years as President. That was more that enough time to finish his Twin Towers and start World War III.
Nixon refused to nominate Rocky as his Vice President and nominated Greek-American Spiro Agnew instead. He probably knew that having Rockefeller as Vice President was signing his own death warrant.
The Vice President was forced to resign in ’74 by trumped up charges brought by the Rockefeller controlled IRS.
The forced resignation of Spiro Agnew left a vacancy for the office of Vice President. This was the opportunity Rockefeller was waiting for. The Vice Presidency was only a heartbeat from the Presidency and his appointment was up to President Nixon. Nixon double-crossed him and appointed Gerald Ford instead. This decision cost President Nixon his Presidency.
Rockefeller was behind the scandal called Watergate which forced Nixon to resign. His man in the White House was Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
Firstly, Nixon’s Vice President Spiro Agnew was forced to resign and Nixon APPOINTED Ford as his Vice President. This was the first use of the recently passed Rockefeller Amendment.
After the appointment of Ford as Vice President, Nixon was forced to resign over Watergate and then Ford became President by appointment only….Ford did not LUST for the Presidency like Rockefeller and he was a victim of the fast moving events to make Rockefeller President by appointment only.
President Ford had a TARGET on his back after making Rockefeller Vice President!!
To the shock of his family and the nation, two women (undercover Rockefeller controlled CIA agents) attempted to kill President Ford in separate incidents in September of 1975. On September 5, as Ford greeted well-wishers outside the Senator Hotel in Sacramento, California, Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme, aged twenty-six, a follower of mass-murderer Charles Manson, leveled a Colt .45 at Ford and squeezed the trigger at point blank range. The gun misfired and Fromme was wrestled to the ground before she could pull off a second shot.
Two weeks later in San Francisco, on September 22, Sara Jane Moore, aged forty-five, a one-time FBI informer, fired a .38 revolver at Ford. The shot missed Ford by a few feet because a bystander had spoiled her aim. Both women were convicted under the 1965 law making attempted assassination of the President a federal offense punishable by life imprisonment.
Fate overruled these 2 wicked attempts to murder the President so Nelson Rockefeller launched his last deadly attack. This was the swine flu scare of 1976.
Assault on the President of the United States with a DEADLY weapon courtesy of the Rockefeller Medical Inquisition. He was given the POISONED needle in front of a nationwide TV audience on Oct 11, 1976.
Rockefeller was “praying” that he would die or become incapacitated and then he would be President for life. Thank God that He overruled this deadly plot by Rome and Rockefeller against the people and the Constitution:
“Mere coincidence can be damaging. This occurred in the ill-fated swine flu vaccination campaign mounted in 1976 to protect Americans against what was believed to be an extremely dangerous strain of influenza. Three elderly people, all heart patients, dropped dead on one day (Oct. 11) after getting shots at a Pittsburgh clinic. Experts concluded the vaccine was not responsible, but it took President Gerald Ford and his family getting swine flu shots on national TV to restore confidence in the program — and even then only for a while.”
Thank God that the ONLY Rockefeller to reach the White so far is William Jefferson Clinton— the son of Winthrop Rockefeller!!
Imagine the financial clout that it takes to have a Constitutional Amendment passed. It requires total control of the Senate, House of Representatives and most all of the 50 states. During the Senate hearing for the appointment of Nelson in 1974, various attempts were make to estimate the Rockefeller billions. None even came close. Part of the reason was he nor his family had paid one red cent of taxes the previous dozen years. One figure that was mentioned was 70 billion dollars. Newsweek (Rockefeller owned) says that the fortune was “beyond calculation.”
Now just imagine a Obama win with a Vice president and two time brain aneurysm Joe Biden. Will Hillary become Vice president, knock off Obama creating the worse rioting the US has ever seen. Then she appoints her boss Jay Rockefeller to help administer the coup de grace to America.
Or maybe the inexperinced Obama goes ahead and appoints Jay Rockefeller that will get him killed even quicker. Then Jay Rockefeller can personally administer the coup de grace to a strife filled and riot torn America.
Just wondering out aloud!
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What does Ron Paul think about the bailout of Freddie and Fannie and what would he do?
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He thinks it could end up costing us more bailout tax moneys because we don’t know what all is on their balance sheets as far as toxic assets. I saw him say that in an interview.
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‘Pragmatically, how far back in the development of the US government would you retard and quench branches of the government? 1963? 1933? 1890? 1850? 1820? 1787? 1745?!?’
Well let’s see, to date the so called ‘development of the US government’ is a fuedal system of no money and no full ownership of land for the American people. Elections are reduced to a dog and pony show of 2 parties vying for the leadership of a governing corporation. America can produce 101 different flavours of ice cream, but no more than 1, I mean 2 political parties and any thing else is considered ‘Fringe Parties and Paranoia’.
Yeah, it seems impractical for the development of the US government to retard any further.
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I have been researching for your stand on what the ideal federal government would look like under your administration. For instance, what are the acceptable agencies or branches that you feel are needed. And also, what would be the ideal state structure and policy to harmonize with this federal government.
Personally, I am beginning to think that you see everyone as a culture of primitive people hiding behind bushes with their idiot children protected from the world. Or I am seeing you as wild techno civilization with steet wise people of out of control technologies and morality.
Pragmatically, how far back in the development of the US government would you retard and quench branches of the government? 1963? 1933? 1890? 1850? 1820? 1787? 1745?!?
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Since when has complicating politics coincided with a more “advanced” culture? You’re idiotic if you don’t see that tiptoeing around the Constitution is what got us in the mess we’re in today.
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Looking for a candidate I can vote for. Neither party has presented an acceptable choice. Republicans leave out all pro choice women by platform and candidate choice. Obama does nothing but run for office based on wild promises, who knows whose money supports him or what he really stands for since he votes present when a stand is needed on Senate bills. I don’t vote for change based on skin color and party platform and media images as the only qualifications. McCain is an honest man with an identifiable track record. At least something is known about him from deeds, not empty words and posturing. At first I was enthused about a real woman achiever running as VP, until the prolife and prisoner torture is ok stuff reared its ugly head in her acceptance speech. Neither one is acceptable. What are Ron Paul’s positions on a woman’s right to choose and prisoner abuse?
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Maybe Ron Paul hopes that if he threatens the Illuminati enough with the popularity of his platform, that the assassination that would result would lead to a true revolution to be carried out by the American people when their eyes are opened to the hatred of the establishment for a true patriot. I feel that the American people are too cowardly and foolish to respond in a heroic way if he were to lay down his life in an attempt to represent what is best for the American people. Voting for a man is not about choosing for the lesser of two evils. There is merely a choice for good or evil. Ron Paul represents what is good. Casting a vote for McCain or Obama is the same as casting a vote for Lucifer. The servants of Lucifer whisper in the ears of McCain and Obama because they will obey. Ron Paul is aware of the conspiracy to destroy all that is Christian in the New World Order to come and has a platform to prevent this from occurring. Since the American people will not stand behind him, I will not feel pity for those that betry him or for their children.
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There are still 3000 seats available before the Target Center is sold out. What can we do to help? I have emailed friends in the area. What else can we do?
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Watching Hillary Clinton I realize that she knows all the problems that America faces. Unfortunately, her answer is more big government. Why is the government the answer to all these problems our country face? John McCain believes the same thing. It’s disappointing. Hopefully, the Campaign for Liberty will work and the next generation of politicians will be answering the challenges that Hillary Clinton proposed with responses of limited government and personal responsibility.
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Medved has reduced himself to spewing forth various strings of derogatory language boldly proclaiming, for instance, that “there’s no reason at all to believe in the ludicrous, childish, ill-informed, manipulative, brain dead fantasies about a North American Union.”
So you are gonna even consider any thing from a duche bag like Michael Medved ??????
Therefore according to duche bag Medved, Ron Paul is “childish, ill-informed, manipulative, brain dead with fantasies about a North American Union.”
Medved is a sum bag illuminati dupe, thats all.
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It is all in the form of property rights. No one in America owns full title to any property. There is no real money to even buy property if you could. When the real owners blow the whistle, its ‘out of the pool time’. Where are you gonna go ??? Only land owners can become state or county electors to seat a Senate, they choose the president (the Electoral College). So even if the Republic is restored, you lose.
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This is for you, Dorothy Brasch:
A Long Tradition of Fringe Parties and Paranoia
by Michael Medved
The fringe candidates in this election cycle – Cynthia McKinney of the Green Party, Bob Barr of the Libertarians, Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party, Ralph Nader in his independent run – all to some extent rely on deeply paranoid conspiracy theories to power their campaigns. In this, they honor a long and embarrassing tradition for third parties, who have usually blamed their own lack of power or influence on the diabolical plots of some secretive group or another.
In fact, the first significant third party in American history arose from fears that a popular fraternal organization actually constituted a murderous power elite that threatened the very foundations of the Republic. The Anti-Masonic Party won startling success in the 1820’s and ‘30’s by focusing on wild suppositions concerning the mysterious disappearance of a hard-drinking bricklayer in upstate New York. William Morgan fell deeply into debt in 1826 and began quarreling with fellow members of the local Masonic lodge in Batavia, then threatened to make some money by writing a sensational book revealing the dark secrets of Freemasonry. On September 11th (!) authorities arrested him for his unpaid debts and a group of Masons abducted him from the village jail. Morgan never returned and no one ever found his body, but accounts of his alleged murder became a national sensation –while the Masons denied all wrong-doing.
The lurid case – and the relatively light punishment for those accused of Morgan’s kidnapping – gave rise to an impassioned political movement, demanding the suppression of Freemasonry and a ban on all Masons holding public office. So many prominent leaders proudly identified as Masons – including Benjamin Franklin, John Hancock, Presidents George Washington, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson and James K. Polk, Chief Justice John Marshall, Speaker of the House Henry Clay and New York Governor DeWitt Clinton – that the Anti-Masonic Party successfully mobilized general resentments toward the privileged and the powerful. The party published 35 weekly newspapers in New York alone. They elected governors of both Pennsylvania and Vermont as protest candidates and drew young anti-Jacksonians into politics for the first time (including William Henry Seward, future Senator and Secretary of State). Another militant member of the Anti-Masonic movement, Thaddeus Stevens of Pennsylvania (later the Republican leader of the House who led impeachment efforts against President (and Freemason) Andrew Johnson), summed up the party’s subtle, understated approach by characterizing Masons as “a feeble band of lowly reptiles” and describing the Masonic Grand Lodge as “a chartered iniquity, within whose jaws are crushed the bones of immortal men, and whose mouth is continually reeking with human blood, and spitting forth human gore.”
The Anti-Masons themselves spat forth a major political innovation: convening the first ever national presidential nominating convention in 1832. They chose as their standard-bearer the distinguished legal scholar William Wirt of Virginia, who served longer as U.S. Attorney General (twelve years) than anyone in history. Ironically, he was also a long-time Mason who had recently left the order, but pointedly defended and praised it in his acceptance speech. Running against active Masons Andrew Jackson and Henry Clay, Wirt drew 7.78% of the popular vote, carried the state of Vermont (for seven electoral votes) and finished ahead of President Jackson in Massachusetts. Despite this impressive showing, Wirt retired and the party quickly collapsed – though as late as 1884 Jonathan Blanchard (founding president of the esteemed Christian institution, Wheaton College in Illinois) ran his own quixotic presidential campaign on the Anti-Masonic Ticket.
Despite the abject failure of all the “anti-Masonic” agitators, in the last 180 years we’ve remained obviously free from the horrifying domination of Freemasonry—though some of the followers of today’s fringe parties (many of whom suffer night-sweats over the “North American Union” and other chimeras) may still insist that our very freedom is nothing more than an illusion, planted by the diabolical forces always ready to impose their conspiratorial will.
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Ron Paul is not a mason, but his father is. Not that it really matters, because you can’t even become a mason if you are not a Christian. And as others have pointed out, MANY prior Presidents, signors of the Constitution, founding fathers, etc were masons. The public is very sadly unaware of what masons are and what they do. They are not a secret society, you can join tomorrow if you like, you just need a current mason to sponsor you (as a mentor of sorts). Oh, and the Skull & Bones organization is not an off-shoot of masonry, it is totally unrelated. Neither of the Bush boys were masons. Although, many of our heros in history were: George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Patrick Henry, Paul Revere, Henry Clay, Davy Crockett, Winston Churchill, Gerald Ford, Thurgood Marshall, Andrew Jackson, Sam Houston, FDR, Harry Truman, Gen Douglas McArthur, several other “minor” Presidents, even many entertainers and industry giants like Henry Ford, John Wayne, Roy Rogers, Will Rogers, Audie Murphy, Red Skelton, Rogers Hornsby, the founder of St Jude’s (Danny Thomas), Harry Houdini, Col Sanders, Samuel L Clemens “Mark Twain”, Rev Norman Vincent Peale, Rudyard Kipling, Jesse Jackson, Clark Gable, Duke Ellington, Sir Arhtur Conan Doyle, and the list goes on and on…
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Dorothy,
You should also be aware that George W. Bush is a member of the secretive Skull & Bones group.
It’s just a Masonic off-shoot.
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dr paul thank you for your time..what is you position on hemp being used for fuel?it seems like a good way to get off oil and clean up the air.
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To me it seems you people believe a little to much of what the media tells you. come on i cant believe you actually believe this black pr that is being spread by rumor-mongers. just look at what ron paul is doing that is all you need to know about him because a persons actions is what shows who they are and what they believe in NOT what someone else who probably have never meet him says he is or thinks.
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Here is where people go off on a tangent. Issues to one are not for another. This is where States Rights come in. The Federal Government’s only “JOB” is to protect and defend America, not the World! That is what this Man Ron Paul is about. He single handedly will restore Government as it was meant to be. The Business of Government is NOT to interfere with the FREE MARKET, the People did very well for over 135 years before the BANKSTERS took over the Money System, illegally, I might add. Abortion, Gay, Education, are STATE Issues and must be sorted out by the PEOPLE. WE have become the World’s Cop by sticking our noses in other peoples Business like an annoying Dog. It’s time to get it on a leash. That’s what Ron Paul will do!
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Individual freedom is incompatible with group rights, which is the foundation for group identity (viwed as supremacy/ inferiority of groups), leading to group discrimination: racism & sexism.
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Ron Paul is a true American! He is NOT by any stretch a ‘racist’! Anyone who would make that accusation is a blubbering idiot with an entitlement mentality!
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Ron Paul is a damned fool. Almost all of the changes he suggests will result in disaster for our country — thank god he didn’t win the nomination.
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your a retard for sure. if you would actually think about his plans and proposals you would realize they are great ideas.
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yeah your dumb do your homework….(that means reading things not main stream media)
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Wow does your comment look terrible now that Ron Paul has been right all along. Look at everything he has been saying. It all happened and will continue to happen until people like you open your eyes to the facts instead of mainstreem “spin politics” that you love so much.
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In a couple years, you’ll eat your words. I guarantee it.
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well you go ahead and believe in the change you can believe in
obama is nothing but a liar
and he has broken every single promise
he made to the america people
while running to be president
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Ron Paul is awesome. He realized that life will be better if the government just steps back and does nothing. Some people say nothing will get done, but they’re just crazy people. Ron Paul is definitely gonnna win, and that makes me happy.
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nathan AMEN i for one come from a long line of freemasons dorothy couldnt be more wrong the american people ned to research things IE.politics laws social stuides (not like high school) befor they speak about them this is the reason the gas prices among other things are out of control they just dont belive some top level dission /law making people are alowed to lie cheat and steal from our great country as a side note watch loose change this rant will make sence i love amirica george will not be happy till we are standing in line for tollit paper the goverment is handing out wee need to stop it now ron paul and jesse need to be in the white house just my oppion i look forwerd to the comments
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If your a Free Mason, why do you spell horribly? I understand you guys are highly illuminated and telepathic?
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Dorothy, I’m sorry but you are very sadly mistaken. The Masons run things like “Shriners”. You also have to believe in god before you can even become a Mason. If Ron Paul loses, it’s not because he wasn’t the best canditate. On the contrary; it’s because the public at large is ignorant to the real issues and facts. I’ve no opinion on whether or not Ron Paul was a mason or not, (though that has no bearing), but you do know that the United States has had many masonic presidents to date?
Hate breeds hate and Ignorance breeds ignorance. I am reminded of a very good quote:
“Most people would rather die than think for themselves; And in fact, most do so.”
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fdr was a MASON
a luciferian satanic worshiping ass
thats why the american dollar bill is full of masonic symbols
and the words the birth of the new world order
are around the all seeing eye and pyramid
JESUS IS GOD
LUCIFER is not the bringer or bearer of Light
HE IS SATAN he is a liar and a murderer from the beginning
JESUS SAID NOTHING IN SECRET
dont let anyone see those bags OH my
dont let anyone into your SECRET BAG
JESUS IS GOD wake up
http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com
against the NEW WORLD DISORDER
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i am a sophmore in collge and my major is education and i was wonder what would happen to education in the country if your voted president
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As a former elementary school teacher, I am saddened to read that your major is education when your grammar is so poor. This is what is wrong with education in America today. Why are we allowing high school students to graduate when they do not understand such basic grammatical rules such as when to use “your” and you’re” or when to capitalize words? There is no doubt you will obtain your BS in education, from whatever college you are attending, without ever having a firm grasp on proper grammar. I truly mean no disrespect, I can only hope that my words serve to motivate you to pick up an English textbook and educate yourself (as it is obvious that your elementary and high schools failed to do so). A future teacher really shouldn’t have 9 errors in a single (run-on) sentence containing 27 words. This is how your question should have read: “I am a Sophomore in college and my major is Education. I was wondering what would happen to education in this country if you’re voted president.” Still a poorly written sentence, but at least it is grammatically correct now.
And, no, I am not some 70 year old, crotchety school marm. I am a well educated 30 year old white American male who grew up poor and on the wrong side of the tracks. This is the reason it pains me to see such blatant disregard for our language and educational system. How do we expect to “rise against” when most of America’s young can’t stop text messaging long enough to pay attention in class? Please wake up Jimmy, you are doing a disservice to the future of our great country if you plan on teaching them.
Sorry for the rant, I could not let this one pass by unchecked.
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I am a 22 year old male attending college and I can honestly say that half of my english class has trouble reading a basic sentence.
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anyone that wants to know whats up with the schools in north america
JUST YOUTUBE Charlotte Iserbyt
and John Taylor Gatto
get the book THE DELIBERATE DUMBING DOWN of america
read for crying out loud
youtube chemtrails they are happening all over the world
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you were a teacher
well then READ Charlotte Iserbyt and John Taylor Gatto
books
and WAKE UP
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How does Ron Paul feel about limiting Marriage to one man-one woman and putting it in the constitution of a state or country?
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Like most folks his age, on this single subject Rep. Paul has allowed his generational prejudice to influence his opinion. While an ethically consistent and constitutionally adherent person would realize that marriage is a social contract between two consenting adults, and therefore beyond the scope of state regulation, Rep. Paul has meekly answered that he would be willing to look at civil unions as a resolution to a subject that clearly makes him uncomfortable. I was disappointed.
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In the interest of your discrediting Ron Paul on the subject of marriage. Marriage has and always will be a word that is defined by between man and a woman. Ron Paul respect’s the right of two individuals voluntarily forming a union. He cannot however change the meaning of words. Ergo civil unions that are completely equal to marriage, would be maintaining the right meaning of words, while preserving civil liberties. That is a perfect balance. You cant call an apple an orange. Same sex unions will always be same sex unions, and marriage will always be between man and a woman. Ron as usual is completely correct and uninfluenced by anyone or thing other than his superior mind.
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What is this on rense.com says that Ron Paul was a Mason and so is his wife? I thought they were – Baptist – Christians. Masonry is totally against God of the bible and the worship of Satan. This support for Ron Paul is not passing the smell test if these are the facts. I don’t want to be a supporter of Masonry as my presidential choice. I gave this guy cash support and now this horrible information is popping up. What is with the people of this nation? Doesn’t anyone know anything about God and what He abhors.
The constitution party is looking better all the time.
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Dorothy, while I appreciate your fervent zeal concerning God, which I share your sentiments, your view of the Mason’s is riddled with inaccuracy. George Washington, we all know, was a Mason, and was instrumental in founding our country based on a firm faith in God. Recorded history shows his many hours on bended knee supplicating devine guidance. Many of the Founding Fathers were, in fact, Masons. They were definately not godless people, nor were they Satan worshipers. While not a Mason myself, I know their membership is comprised of men from many Christian religions, including Baptists, Lutherens, Mormons, Presbyterians, Catholics, etc. So, to answer your question, “What is with the people of this nation?” the answer could very well be…they are trying their best to serve God the best way they know how. Remember the Good Samaritan story and take the principle to heart of loving those who are different from you.
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I agree with Dorothy on this one Mr. McEuen. The Masons are not a “Christian” organization. They are secretive and do not worship ‘the True God’. They give lip-service to a collective “fatherhood of believers” and use many symbols from Solomon’s temple as part of their rite, but to say they have a belief in a god would be more to the point. If Ron Paul is a Mason, he would then be part of the established secretive order that is so pervasive in this and other governments. Remember too, that just because so called Christians belong to the Masons does not make their confession sincere. In the end, all will kneel before King Jesus, and will confess Him Lord.
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Mike,
If you would like to kneel before Jesus thats your choice. It is not what the constitution requires. Our forefathers believed in the seperation of Church and state even though they were religious. A secular nation is what the United States is. Not a christian nation. I mean no ill will todars Christians or people any any belief but I have a tremendous respect for the founding fathers and what they envisioned The Untied States to be. It is advisible to vote for candidates based on their voting record and character in lue of their religious beliefs. Becuase beliefs are just that, beliefs. The constitutions is the “scripture” of this land, the suppossed word of god is not. I mean that not only to Christians but buddist, muslims, mormons and the like. Respect the constitution and those that died and sacfificed for it.
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Your history lesson is flawed and your statement regarding the constitutional separation of church and state is erroneous. The constitution was bastardized in this regard by godless, activist courts in this country in the 1960′s and accepted by an ignorant populace. First because they were ignorant and second because they want to believe it. The so-called separation of church and state is not in the constitution what-so-ever. The constitution only stated that “the government could not make any laws regarding the establishment of a religion”. Meaning that no one could ever be compelled to worship or be a Christian or a member of any other religion. The federalist papers and other co-lateral writings of the founding fathers made, and make, it beyond dispute that this was founded as a Christian nation. That did not mean that anyone would ever be compelled to be a Christian. Further all of the constitution and most of our laws are based on the one and only “Holy Bible”. Every argument to the contrary is based on ignorance of history, lack of research or self serving wishful thinking.
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I agree in principle with your response, but if the Constitution is the “Holy Grail” of this country, and we revere it in the secular arena as much as those in the spiritual arena revere and obey God’s word, then tell me why only a minority find it necessary to see the Constitutional as THE foundation for the so-called lawmakers in this country. I am in concurrence with obeying the Constitution and the laws that are spawned from it how ever concrete one may make the law seem, most of the time it applies differently to people groups in separate financial classes. As long as constitutional laws abide differently for various crimes (likee tax evasion), then give me the Bible every time, because I know that God’s law applies to eveyone without regard to social status. I can break laws in this country and escape penalty, not so with the Supreme Law. For instance the adjudication of Roe v. Wade, was and is the court interfering with the Seventh Commandment. The Constitution to this day remains silent. It never intended to be involved in “baby-killing” until some activist judge said it did. As far as beliefs are concerned, the matter does point to character. No matter what spin you put on it, the voters respect people who confess what they believe in. I never said they always like it.
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Dont be naive most of if not all of your presidents dating back to the first president were masons. The and masonry isnt anything like devil worship its more like christianity than anything else (which is kinda like devil worship anyway…). The real issue is rather or not this man has the best ideas for the benefit of this nation. I am Muslim and i wouldnt care if this guy were a devil worshipper he has the most respect for the constitutions ideals
Ron Paul 2012!!!!!! GO! GO! GO!
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That is a truly American ideology. Thank you sir!
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I would not worry about that and maybe you should try and ask the guy first then just diving into what you read. I am not to worried about the masons. I am glad to see that Ron Paul is not part of the CFR or tri lateral commission or the bilderberg group. Those are the ones we need to watch out for closer. So in short dont bitch and run yet
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Dorothy,
Your statement, “Masonry is totally against God of the bible and the worship of Satan,” indicates a lack of knowledge and an inability to compose a logical sentence (“…against God…and the worship of Satan.” Against the worship of Satan?) Are you a Mason that know their beliefs?
I don’t know (or care) whether he is a Mason (I am not). But I understand that several of our Founding Fathers (including George Washington) were. Do you believe that Masonry caused them to fail in their roles?
I agree with jaja: “I am glad to see that Ron Paul is not part of the CFR or tri lateral commission or the bilderberg group. Those are the ones we need to watch out for closer.”
Work on your facts, logic and syntax before trying to condemn and educate others.
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Dorothy,
Mason’s aren’t Satan worshippers. That is a gross misunderstanding. Mason’s use the bible in their cermonies. They believe in a higher power, but allow you to call him whatever your religion recognizes his name. Masons have Christians, Muslims, and Jews in their organization. Please do more research on topics before stating blantant misuderstandings.
Thanks
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You might be mistaken. I listened to a video about the much higher levels of this organization and it is quite satanic. They keep the lower levels at a different understanding of what the organization is really all about.
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Freemasonry refers to the principles, institutions, and practices of the fraternal order of the Free and Accepted Masons. The largest worldwide society, Freemasonry is an organization of men based on the “fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man,” using builders’ tools as symbols to teach basic moral truths generally accepted by persons of good will. Their motto is “morality in which all men agree, that is, to be good men and true.” It is religious in that a belief in a Supreme Being and in the immortality of the soul are the two prime requirements for membership, but it is nonsectarian in that no religious test is used.1 The purpose of Freemasonry is to enable men to meet in harmony, to promote friendship, and to be charitable. Its basic ideals are that all persons are the children of one God, that all persons are related to each other, and that the best way to worship God is to be of service to people.
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there god is lucifer THE ALL SEEING EYE IS ON THE MONEY
fdr was a mason
the birth of the NEW WORLD ORDER
is on the words around the pyramid with the eye
thats what it means
they have planned this for years
http://www.henrymakow.com
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Dorothy MOST lower end masons
dont know there is anything wrong with it
its a social club like the lions club
or any of the other ones like the shriners
they are all part of a much bigger picture
there are tons of masons where we live
and they ALL HAVE MONEY TONS AND TONS OF MONEY
Ron doesnt look like it but he is a MILLIONAIRE
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What is your stand on two issues:
The Second Amendment-The right to bear arms.
Israel (read Genesis12:2 and 3).
Thank You.
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And also read the Second amendment to the Constitution.
“Right To Bear Arms.
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it must have been awesome that the people in the bible were able to live into their hundreds, right!? hmph, i guess 2000 years ago people were just able to live well past the common age of death that is now.77.they must have had more faith than you since they needed none of the medical technology we have today…must be nice not living in reality
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your to stupid to know
that god himself changed the age of living
and said that man will live for four score
and ten four score and twenty if by reason of strength and will
it was done on purpose
JESUS IS GOD and YOU will meet him one day
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