Health Care

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In these United States of America, many people cannot afford even basic health insurance. They suffer severely under the present system and have to live under the constant fear of not knowing what they will do if they or their loved ones ever fall seriously ill.

But in many cases, insured individuals aren’t much better off either. In comparison to the exorbitant insurance premiums they pay, the medical care they receive is often very poor.

Additionally, due to the government-enforced monopolies of HMOs (Health Maintenance Organizations) and pharmaceutical companies, many patients will never even hear about some of the most effective and non-invasive treatment methods. These natural and inexpensive ways of regaining one’s health are being suppressed by the FDA and the medical establishment not because of safety concerns (they’ve been around for hundreds of years), but because they cannot be patented and would therefore cut into the pharmaceutical industry’s profits.

The current system is most definitely broken, and it must eventually be abolished if we want to regain both our health and our freedom.

But Obamacare is the worst possible answer. All it does is perpetuate a flawed system by forcing everyone to become a client of insurance companies, even those who don’t want to or need to participate.

Why should anyone be forced to subsidize the medical care of others? Very few individuals would personally assault their neighbors at gunpoint and steal thousands of dollars to pay for their own medical needs. How could any freedom loving person agree to delegate such criminal acts to the government by supporting a compulsory health insurance system?

There is only one solution that will lead to true health and true freedom: making health care more affordable. Ron Paul believes that only true free market competition will put pressure on the providers and force them to lower their costs to remain in business. Additionally, Ron Paul wants to change the tax code to allow individual Americans to fully deduct all health care costs from their taxes.

Through these measures and the elimination of government-sponsored health care monopolies a much larger number of people will be able to finally access affordable health care, either by paying for medical insurance or by covering their medical expenses, which are now much lower, out of their own pocket.

As for the poor and the severely ill who can neither obtain insurance nor pay for the medical care they need, Ron Paul offers the following solution in his bookThe Revolution: A Manifesto“:

In the days before Medicare and Medicaid, the poor and elderly were admitted to hospitals at the same rate they are now, and received good care. Before those programs came into existence, every physician understood that he or she had a responsibility towards the less fortunate and free medical care was the norm. Hardly anyone is aware of this today, since it doesn’t fit into the typical, by the script story of government rescuing us from a predatory private sector.

Illegal aliens already receive de-facto free health care. Why can’t poor Americans have the same… not as a right, but as a charitable benefit provided by doctors who feel a personal responsibility for their fellow citizens?

Unfortunately, the current medical monopoly corrupts many doctors by rewarding practices that are not in the patients’ best interest. Pharmaceutical companies have a vested interest in not curing people, but getting them permanently addicted to expensive drugs that have many side effects, thereby requiring additional drugs to suppress those side effects. Many doctors are afraid to speak up and question the system for fear of being ostracized by their peers or even losing their license.

Under a liberated health care system prices would come down and additional options would become available, thereby making health care much more affordable. Moral corruption would give way to true compassion, and many doctors would remember their implicit obligation to provide free medical care to those in need, just like they did in the past.

As a medical doctor, Ron Paul swore the Hippocratic Oath many decades ago. His entire person and career is a monument to the beauty and sanctity of human life. Ron Paul knows that life without health can be very difficult and is not what it was meant to be. He has personally cared for the poor for many years, without asking anything in return.

The government’s original role is to protect our freedoms and restrain itself from causing too much harm. Ron Paul is working to prevent greedy bureaucrats, opportunist politicians and corrupt pharmaceutical companies from having any sort of unhealthy influence over our bodies and minds.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution and help us put the federal government back where it belongs: to Washington DC and out of our daily lives.

Transcript:

Government has been mismanaging medical care for more than 45 years; for every problem it has created it has responded by exponentially expanding the role of government.

Points to consider:

  1. No one has a right to medical care. If one assumes such a right, it endorses the notion that some individuals have a right to someone else’s life and property. This totally contradicts the principles of liberty.
  2. If medical care is provided by government, this can only be achieved by an authoritarian government unconcerned about the rights of the individual.
  3. Economic fallacies accepted for more than 100 years in the United States has deceived policy makers into believing that quality medical care can only be achieved by government force, taxation, regulations, and bowing to a system of special interests that creates a system of corporatism.
  4. More dollars into any monopoly run by government never increases quality but it always results in higher costs and prices.
  5. Government does have an important role to play in facilitating the delivery of all goods and services in an ethical and efficient manner.
  6. First, government should do no harm. It should get out of the way and repeal all the laws that have contributed to the mess we have.
  7. The costs are obviously too high but in solving this problem one cannot ignore the debasement of the currency as a major factor.
  8. Bureaucrats and other third parties must never be allowed to interfere in the doctor/patient relationship.
  9. The tax code, including the ERISA laws, must be changed to give everyone equal treatment by allowing a 100% tax credit for all medical expenses.
    Laws dealing with bad outcomes and prohibiting doctors from entering into voluntary agreements with their patients must be repealed. Tort laws play a significant role in pushing costs higher, prompting unnecessary treatment and excessive testing. Patients deserve the compensation; the attorneys do not.
  10. Insurance sales should be legalized nationally across state lines to increase competition among the insurance companies.
  11. Long-term insurance policies should be available to young people similar to term-life insurances that offer fixed prices for long periods of time.
  12. The principle of insurance should be remembered. Its purpose in a free market is to measure risk, not to be used synonymously with social welfare programs. Any program that provides for first-dollar payment is no longer insurance. This would be similar to giving coverage for gasoline and repair bills to those who buy car insurance or providing food insurance for people to go to the grocery store. Obviously, that could not work.
  13. The cozy relationship between organized medicine and government must be reversed.
    Early on medical insurance was promoted by the medical community in order to boost re-imbursements to doctors and hospitals. That partnership has morphed into the government/insurance industry still being promoted by the current administration.
  14. Threatening individuals with huge fines by forcing them to buy insurance is a boon to the insurance companies.
  15. There must be more competition for individuals entering into the medical field. Licensing strictly limits the number of individuals who can provide patient care. A lot of problems were created in 20th century as a consequence the Flexner Report (1910), which was financed by the Carnegie Foundation and strongly supported by the AMA. Many medical schools were closed and the number of doctors was drastically reduced. The motivation was to close down medical schools that catered to women, minorities and especially homeopathy. We continue to suffer from these changes which were designed to protect physician’s income and promote allopathic medicine over the more natural cures and prevention of homeopathic medicine.
  16. We must remove any obstacles for people seeking holistic and nutritional alternatives to current medical care. We must remove the threat of further regulations pushed by the drug companies now working worldwide to limit these alternatives.

True competition in the delivery of medical care is what is needed, not more government meddling.


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2,244 responses to “Health Care”

  1. Jeff Jefferson

    If we look to elected officials to fix the health care problem, there is no way that the problem can be solved without government intervention, so I cannot see a way to get government out of the situation. If the insurance companies could pick and choose who they provide coverage for, I would assume that before too long all of the healthy people would have coverage, and all of the sick people would have no coverage at all, or it would be so expensive that it would be cost prohibitive.

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    1. peter okeefe

      I am amazed that you would trust a crat from washington to be your advocate before a locally known company that would have your best interests because there survival would depend on it.Imagine a local company not giving care to mrs. smith the teacher or joe the baseball coach. I guess everyone would switch to the better company(the one that covers SOME sick people)…there is the answer to sick people not having coverage.
      Open competition and non interference is the only answer….to depend on a elected official to have empathy is just ridiculous.
      They ARE human beings and as such will only act for there own survival…and there families betterment.which means do NOT rock the boat..be quiet and get paid. Only people you see at pta meetings and little league fields(local)would respond to peer pressure…our founders KNEW this beyond a shadow of a doubt.
      Can you imagine the owner of an insurance company not responding to such pressure? Only if he was a huge company that was responsible only to the govt. could it be ignored.

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      1. John Unker

        Peter, with your logic we will be paying the fire department or the police department to come to our homes in a time of emergency. And we will have competing departments to choose from. If these emergencies are a right of citizenship, why isn’t healthcare? The greedy “free market” healthcare system kills oat least 20,000 people a year. Do you honestly think this system is working?????

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        1. peter okeefe

          damn!!1 great idea!!! since I have not had the cops or fire dept.to my house ever think of the money I would save!!!thousands in wasted tax dollars!!1thank you john thank you…read my post below..

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        2. longshotlouie

          More apples and oranges. Was that the federal fire department?

          The government started getting invoved in health care in the ’70s. Now check out a chart of health care costs over the last 60 years. There’s your real hockey stick.

          Where was that so-called free market? Haven’t seen it in health care for 35 years.

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  2. Jeff Jefferson

    I believe that the first mistake in our health care system occurred with the creation of health insurance. Insurance removes the laws of the free market from the system. Once the cost of health care became insulated from the free market, the insurance companies and the medical facilities began playing a game of ping-pong, tossing costs back and forth, which led to escalating prices. A demonstration of this is seen when you take your pet to the veterinarian. The cost of treatment for your pet is a fraction of what it would cost to have the same treatment performed upon yourself. If large numbers of people started buying health insurance for their pets, my guess is that within a decade or so, your average person would not be able to afford to own a pet. Insurance is, in essence, a form of socialism, where the cost of the individual is absorbed by the many. The great economic philosopher, Frederic Bastiat, wrote that once socialism is recognized, it must be dismantled immediately, or else it will spread, multiply, and develop into a system. The current health care system is a perfect example of what the end result of socialism looks like. As for solutions to the problem, some of the posts that I have read on this site base part of their proposed solution on the assumption that doctors will provide free health care to the poor. I’m sure that many doctors will provide free medical care out of their sense of good will, but a solution to the health care problem cannot rely upon that scenario because it is based on a form of enforced labor. The first step toward a solution would be to make all health care costs partially tax deductible. I say partially, not fully, deductible because if the costs were completely deductible, there would be no incentive or demand for health care institutions to lower their costs. Another suggestion, which will make many Ron Paul supporters cringe, would be to create standard government procedures for diagnosing specific illnesses. This would help reduce the incidence of lawsuits, and therefore, lower the cost of malpractice insurance. What those that condone nationalizing health care do not realize is that nationalization would, in reality, be a wage reduction. If the government were to nationalize health care, there would undoubtedly be a large tax increase to pay for the program, but those people that currently have health insurance provided by their employer would not necessarily obtain a wage increase to pay for the added taxation. The average working person would still be receiving the same health benefits but would have higher annual expenditures while not receiving a wage increase, and in actuality, they would be given less benefits from their employer because their employer would no longer have to pay the insurance premiums.

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    1. peter okeefe

      how about we give insurance companies the right to accept and reject??? that way all the healthy honest people can group together tp protect themselves??? if your not healthy and still honest you join the company that has higher premiums??? and if your a dis-honest sick person you get the bottom of the heap…I think you are making a simple thing VERY complcated…get the govt. OUT of it all…free medical care is ABUSED horribly and we all pay for it. but that would transfer power back to the people and we cant have that …can we???

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  3. Mandi

    So you spoke nothing of change or reform for health care. You gave generalities and no real response to the crisis of 47 million people without health care. I came to this site to read up on a man some of my friends hold as a good man willing to lead us in the right direction and all I read was a man smearing broken government and other candidates. Well it is no surprise that there are problems your job as a candidate or would be candidate is provide some type of solution I can get behind. Where is it?!

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  4. guy

    U want a solution to health care. Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food. Concentrated hemp oil with thc may cure your cancer without even killing you. Wake up pill poppers.

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  5. chuck monroe

    So, what’s Dr.Paul’s solution to the health care crises?

    I am sick over the elections. Obama is gonna take it. McCain is not up to the task.
    Maybe a symbolic vote is worthwhile.

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  6. Jim Spence

    Hello webmaster While searching for Blogs about small business grants government of canada I found your site Care | Ron Paul .com. Thank you for the effort you have put in.

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  7. Duke

    Ron has endorsed Constitutionalist Rev. Chuck Baldwin. I believe he is on the ballot on 46 states. The lesser of two evils is still evil and in this case of Obama vs McCain, the evils to come of these two lesser individuals. According to polls Obama has won the presidency in 2008 but let’s make a statement by having an astounding number of votes towards the third party whether Nader, Barr or Baldwin. It will make a statement until 2012 where we can have another “change” of administration and a “change” in the right direction. God bless America.

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  8. scott

    I’ve read through a good deal of responses and my question is the same as others:
    What does Ron Paul propose we do to make our health care system better than it is? I’m not asking for “perfect”..just as close to it as we can get….I’m tired of health care being an issue each election….let’s fix it and move on to the next issue…
    What does Ron Paul think is the best way to fix it?

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  9. Ohiowa

    In response to a post left a long time ago about psychiatry. Psychiatry is useful and it does help people. People with mental disorders shouldn’t be left in the dark. You would be surprised how many American’s have some sort of mental health issue. Depression, anxiety disorders, etc. It’s really common and while you can get drugs for that stuff from a family physician, Psychiatrists are still useful.

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  10. Canada National Student Loans Center

    I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

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  11. FHG216

    NO HE WILL NOT HA HA HA. Go to http://www.youtue.com and watch me, YTWatchdog, and animatordude.

    Sincerly,
    FHG216

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  12. Jenn

    THE BIG QUESTION????

    WILL RON PAULS NAME APPEAR ON THE TICKET in NOVEMBER?

    IS HE STILL RUNNING FOR PREZ?

    I’ve been set on McCain…but after seeing and listening to Ron’s views….I almost feel compelled to do what’s right and vote for Ron…It may sound silly…and maybe he would not win because of my vote, but I can sleep at night knowing that I made the right choice for all people and for our nation.

    Undecided Voter

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  13. Tim

    Amen, Peter.
    Thanks for bringing personal responsibility back into the discussion. I have no sympathy for people who do not take care of themselves when they are physically able. We all end up paying for them in the long run. Enough of government reliance already. Just imagine for a minute, if the government and all of it’s jesters disappeared tomorrow. Completely gone. All we were left with was the Constitution.

    You know what would happen. A beautiful thing. Like what the Grinch could not believe in Who Ville. Life would go on. People would work. They would provide goods and services for one another. They would trade. They would establish security and protective services. They would FIGURE IT OUT! What a concept. Individuals taking the initiative to live their lives as they see fit for the glory of God.

    Once upon a time, their was a famous quote, “Ask not what your country can do for you…”. I wonder if Obama would claim he is too young to know about that, just like he was too young to know about Bill Ayers.

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  14. MARK GANDY

    Dr. Paul is a breath of fresh air. Finally someone with some common sense ! I only wish the rest of America could open it’s eyes and see that everything is crashing down around us and we need someone like Dr. Paul to speak frankly and bluntly. Unfortunately, I fear America can no longer see what is really going on around them and will continue to stumble onward to the bitter end following idiots like Rush Limbaugh and others. I can only wish Dr. Paul can open more eyes….he has my vote and my attention !!!

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  15. Peter

    In reply to steph’s comment:
    “This website gives no insight to his REAL views just more blah blah that I hear every day.”

    The problem is that you, like many others leave it in the hands of the government to decide for you and bring a PLAN together. Take responsibility for your own health and well being, instead of taking responsibility and exercising, watching what you eat and saving money for health expenses, you expect a free gift from the government in the means of “deserved” health care, a bailout. The truth is nothing is free, including your health, no one deserves anything except what they earn in a free market.

    If you believe that someone else, other than you, needs to create a PLAN for you then you are irresponsible, irrational and expect other tax payers to take responsibility for you. What gives you and the government the right to take and dispose of someone else’s earnings?

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  16. tim

    After hearing tonight’s presidential debate, the only thought I had was that I wonder how much more interesting it would have been with Ron Paul there!

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  17. steph

    So what exctly is he doing about health care? I did not read a plan for what Ron P. is going to do, just a lot of talk about how every other plan is not going to work. He is just like ever other politician. At least McCain and Obama have some sort of plan for health care!!! Same goes for what was written about the military views. Ron P. states he is going to bring troops home safely. I am pretty sure both McCain and Obama say that too. This website gives no insight to his REAL views just more blah blah that I hear everyday.

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  18. Michelle H.

    It seems to me that much of our healthcare crisis is caused by a pharmaceutical industry that is both able to receive grants and subsidies for R&D and yet be a publicly traded company. Doesn’t this pose a conflict of interest? I am only new to the debate regarding the FDA’s involvement, so I don’t have a strong opinion about that, but what I am reading from Ron Paul makes sense.

    I don’t believe John McCain’s plan for a tax credit will work. It simply feeds the machine. Regarding socialized medicine, I’ve lived in the UK and received excellent medical treatment within their system. The one main benefit they have – I never worried about losing my house should something major befall me. I have medical insurance in the USA and I honestly can’t say the same.

    Additionally, I don’t understand why the same insurance company can charge different premiums to different people simply based on the size of the company they work for (or not, as the case may be for many). In my state we can’t co-op and pull our resources to create a larger group, therefore as a small business, we are unable to access better and cheaper plans (not sure if such a system exists elsewhere in the US). And forget it if you need to self-insure. They now want a 10-year history to cover for pre-existing conditions. I actually saw on one questionnaire the following, “Are there any conditions which have not been medically diagnosed?” What the heck does that mean?! If I mention any condition, it will be excluded from coverage. And if I don’t mention it and it is revealed during a future medical exam, the claim may be denied because the condition was not listed on the original insurance application. Either way, insurance wins . . . the self-insured does not.

    What about the negotiated rates with medical providers? If a hospital can accept an 80% discount on fees because a large insurance company has “negotiated” such, it would seem to me that there could be room to work on a flat rate system to everyone’s benefit. (A friend of mine had a $1,000 hospital bill that, after the negotiated rates were applied, totaled $180. Either the hospital is having to “eat” the difference or they have so inflated their prices that the uninsured is left to pay the difference. They can’t. They default. Hospital “eats” the difference. Cycle continues.)

    What if hospitals and doctors could charge whatever fair market allowed, and individuals were not penalized because they were either self-employed or worked for small companies. I know for a fact many people stay in jobs not because of income or opportunity but simply because they need the insurance. There is something wrong with this picture.

    All said, I would like to hear Dr. Paul’s views on the pharmaceutical industry (as opposed to the FDA), the viability of an option of flat rates from providers and standardized insurance rates based upon true risk factors (age, health, etc.) rather than group volume. I’ve not heard either Obama or McCain address those issues.

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  19. Alyssa

    So what exactly are Ron Pauls health care policies? I disagree that free healthcare is bad. Canada, France, England and most of Europe all have free healthcare and its great. You only have to wait if it’s not serious and even then the waits are reasonable. The only difference between their healthcare and ours is that the government pays not you so doctors and hospitals don’t have to worry about if you’ll pay them or not. This means they’ll treat you BETTER because money is not on their mind! The only problem is that it would come out of our taxes but I think it’s worth it. If there is a better alternative than this please tell me Ron Paul!

    Oh and ps Matt, Im waiting for the day you get really sick and come to find out your health coverage doesn’t cover whatever it is that you have, because garaunteed if health insurance companies can get out paying, they will regardless if you’re doing everything right. If they can screw you over to save some money they won’t think twice

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  20. Ross

    Matt,
    I agree that it’s practical and useful to be self-sufficient, but I think you’re pretty unrealistic about everyone always being able to meet their needs on their own.
    There was a time when our local communities provided social support to most members; those days are largely gone, but could be rebuilt.
    Do you think someone who has experienced a prolonged chronic illness which they did not call upon themselves should rely only solely upon their personal resources, which could be consumed very quickly?
    Should someone’s children suffer because mom or dad or both got sick and couldn’t continue their pretestant work ethic to keep them housed, fed and clothed?
    I’ve seen this too many times.
    Have you ever suffered an injury or illness impairing your ability to work for a prolonged period?
    I agree with much of RP’s positions, but I also believe in the safety net concept, wether it’s on the local, state or National level.
    You seem to assume that because we have public education that everyone benefits equally. A child in a troubled home will be at a disadvantage; hard to study when dad’s drunk etc.
    In your world. that kid is shit outa luck because his dad screwed up. The edusystem should help that kid reach maximum potential through counseling, or whatever it takes, to the betterment of their self, their community and nation.
    Of course, if we stopped creating wars of choice we’d have plenty of money to educate everyone well.

    another Republican write-in for RP,

    cheers

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  21. Matt

    @ scott -”Ron just wants small government and has no solution to healthcare. By nature, small government = “You are on your own.” If everyone were a millionare, everyone would love this idea. Too bad we’re not all filthy rich. We need government because we need something greater than ourselves to help us deal with the problems greater than ourselves. We need to take our government back and make it work for the people – that is why it exists.”

    There isnt a solution to health care. Either you sacrifice your quality of health care, or you sacrifice how many people get it. The truth is, its each person’s own responsibility to provide health care for themselves. Thats why we have public schools in this country. So that everyone has the ability from the time they are born to become well educated and make something of themselves. If you cannot afford healthcare, odds are you made a mistake at some point in your life, and you just want the government to bail you out, even though you criticize them for doing it to corporations. Take responsibility for your own life, your own health, and stop blaming the governement for the problems you brought upon yourself.

    Oh, and your claim that you need to be a millionare to provide healthcare for yourself… How about a steady job, and the work ethic of that of a 16 year old.

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    1. joe

      So let me get this right. Your ok with taxing me so I can help educate your kids, but your not ok with being taxed yourself to help me get my prescription medicine. Right? Did I get that about right? Why don’t we get rid of all tax’s? I think people with children should pay to put their own kids through school and stop muching off everyone else. Get a darn job if you can’t put your kids through school – don’t expect me to foot the bill. Right? Thats Liberty right? You might want to think about how we can compete in a global economy without roads and how they would ever get built without a federal government but hey we would have a lot of “liberty”.

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    2. Brent

      Totally agree Matt. And no, I don’t believe Matt is confusing school tax which is a voted in county property tax with Obama Care, which is a rammed through violation of the 10th Amendment. Generally schools are paid for by bond issues and levies on property that are agreed upon by the local residents. Unless you happen to live in his county, I doubt if you can make an argument this way.
      Roads are supposed to be paid for with gas tax but as you can imagine, that does not work well any more and so now toll roads and stimulus are needed. Can the government do anything at all without raising the PERCENTAGE of your money required to continue periodically?
      People need health care they don’t have for two reasons: One is that they are unfortunate, one is that they are fools. Our country had reached a level of prosperity that literally reshaped our value system-largely away from valuing health! The plan to collectivize our health care is a plan to sow so many thistles in the wheat that we cannot weed them out. A system that provides rights must provide them to a righteous people! We should refuse to throw good money after bad-those that do not value their health MUST be separated out of the system in order for the system to survive.
      To their credit, many other countries do not currently have this problem-they will too when they reach a pinnacle of prosperity. It does not come natural to man to successfully deal with having enough or too much-nature had no model to provide him to survive a life without constant struggle-so in event of prospering, man becomes his own enemy to fill the void. If we are ever to become a society that can adapt to a lack of need, we must either teach self-defeating people not to be that way or let them go that way on their own. We cannot finance drug abuse, obesity, smoking, laziness, unsafe sex and the myriad of other self defeating behaviors by allowing these people to infiltrate and bankrupt our medical system. We cannot allow silly theories of a perfect world or a perfect health care system to trump the reality that NONE of these systems ever work reliably when a people do not value their health FIRST.
      I find it interesting that Social Security is about to run out while the economy threatens pensions and we are worried about health care. These people just don’t get it. I rather think food and shelter is more important than health care. Millions are homeless and hungry-fear not, a hospital bed has a roof and a meal! :/

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    3. john lockes ghost

      This isn’t in response to your post Matt, but I didn’t see any other way to post the following important piece of information regarding Obamacare.

      Obamacare
      Doctors traditionally have been unhappy with insurance mandates because third-party payers, whether public or private, represent a seemingly unnecessary interface between us and our patients. Many doctors today prefer to accept cash, even at a great discount, rather than having to deal with the burden imposed by insurers.
      Yet the glaring inadequacy of the health care reform law is that putting the bureaucratic burdens on steroids does little to change the trajectory of health care spending. The law also floods the system with patients while tightening the financial screws on those in the health care industry.
      We’re two years into this experiment, and the realities of the law — more regulations, more patients with low-paying insurance, higher costs but lower payments to doctors — are sinking in
      When surveyed by Deloitte, 83% of doctors said one likely change to the medical system as a result of the law would be increased wait times — an inevitable outcome of insuring millions more patients without a matching increase in the number of doctors. Not too surprising. Most doctors surveyed also noted that the changes will “pose considerable implementation challenges.” I suspect it would be hard to find someone in the health care industry — or any employer, for that matter — who would disagree with that expectation
      Think of ObamaCare as a heavy horse-drawn cart loaded with all of America’s patients and best technologies. As the cart gets heavier and heavier, does it make sense that we don’t add more horses but instead feed the ones we have less and less while expecting them to pull the additional weight?

      Marc Siegel, physician [and ] associate professor of medicine and medical director of Doctor Radio at NYU

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  22. Matt

    I get sick and tired of people claiming that our medical system is broken because it’s only concern is profit. Those of you who are claiming this, are simply uneducated, or more bluntly put, ignorant. Pharmeceutical corporations are the reason we’ve made so many medical advances in the past decade. The profits that they earn, fuel their R&D, and thus allow them to continue to make huge improvements. What would happen if we were to pass some form of socialistic legislation to limit their profits? The free market would die in the health industry, and our medical advances would become stagnant.

    Then there are those of you who blame pharmaceutical companies for putting unnecessary drugs on the market, that treat the symptoms rather than the cause. There are a couple of things that need to be addressed here. First, in many cases, such as cancer related drugs, a cure does not yet exist, and the drugs that are on the market exist to improve the quality of life of those who take them. The second part is, for non-essential drugs such as ED medication, anti-depressents, and others (the ones you always see the TV-ads for), the responsibility falls on the consumer whether or not to use them. Its a growing trend in this country to disregard personal responsibility, and instead blame corporations for our stupid decisions. If you think a drug is unneccesary, or not needed, then don’t take it. No one is forcing you to.

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    1. Jan

      REF: to your statement, “First, in many cases, such as cancer related drugs, a cure does not yet exist,”
      You Don’t Know the Half of IT!
      REF: to your statement, “If you think a drug is unnecessary, or not needed, then don’t take it. No one is forcing you to.”
      Yes they are, if, like I did, refuse Fosamax from my doctor and its the FDA treatment for my condition…..and I refused it, she could have lost her license by keeping me on as a patient, knowing that I was going to take natural supplements for my osteoporosis. So she discharged me as a patient. So I disagree, these doctors can not recommend anything but DRUGS for treatment of disease. IT’s a for-profit government and drug company world right now!
      I hate to say this but you do not realize what is going on in our world or USA right now…..American is waking up to the games these people have played with us during our lifetimes.
      You aren’t awake yet…you haven’t been through the “real deal” yet…we have and we are exposing them to you ……but you do not realize it ….cuz you have no experience in life yet, and had your Mom or Dad or yourself or husband scamed to
      death, cancers, and drugs and low wages, high taxes, poor education, poor healthcare, foreigners taking your jobs, minorities taking your education, side effects to meds, undercared for due to no insurance, cars costing more than a house use to, gasoline and cigerettes and soda pop and water and beer and a telephone line being taxed to death or your utilities being taxed to death or womans clothes being jacked up in prices,higher than mens, or the basic foods being quadrupled in price, food contaminations, central banks confiscating all the paper money…..sending young men into two different wars to get polluted with Agent Orange and Depleted Uranium, and coming home toxic and infertile..or worse
      Car insurance costing an average of $100 a month and a car payment of $300 a month…house payments jacked up along with rent payment jacked up.,Live alittle longer before you go along with this governments status quo. And listen to what we are trying to tell you………..

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  23. Georg

    im from germany. national healthcare does not work there. google a few unbiased sources tofind out more.

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    1. Jan

      I recently, called Hewlett-Packard to fix a new computer sent to a friend of mine, that was put together outside the USA. The computer was uploaded wrong, and the so I had to call them to help me fix it over the phone! When I called their 800 number, I got a computer technician in India, and I was on the phone with him for 5 hours! As he guided me to delete and reprogram and fix the computer! So, as friendly as I am, we talked. He was a very nice man and I have nothing against his country or his people. They are very kind and gracious people. I have a problem with the USA sending our jobs overseas, its not other nations fault. I wonder how much he was paid per hour and how much the 5 hour call cost HP, and how much money they would have saved had they not had China put it together and India fix it for an American! Instead they could have given an American the jobs and we’d have done it right! But, anyway, getting back to healthcare. I asked this nice Indian man this: If I moved to India, and I got sick, could I walk into your emergency room and get treated? He responded, “oh no, you must be a citizen of India to get healthcare.” I said, well, do you have national government healthcare there? He said, yes we do, all citizens have healthcare here. I said, well how do I get it? He said, well you have to live here 5 years and then you would become a citizen. I said how does your government pay for it? He said,at the end of every month our government takes out 10% of our monthly income to pay for our healthcare and our retirement fund. Whatever the person makes they take out 10% of it each month, they could make a $100 or $10,000, and 10% is taken out of their income each month. “If you were a citizen here you would receive all our benefits too!”
      I said, so your system unlike our system in the USA does not treat anyone who is not a citizen then. In the USA a illegal can walk in an ER and get treatment….ahead of our own citizens, free! And our doctors do here do not like to treat anyone on government Medicare or Medicaid…because they do not make the money on us and in fact under treat us many times because they can not make as much money on us as they can on private insurance payers. He also, said, well we do not get so much bad diseases as you get because our India diet is so much more healthier for us. We are mostly vegetarians and we do not have all the processed foods as you do. I said, I know, however, I am a type “O” and have to eat meat, I can not be a vegetarian. And you worship the cow and do not eat it right? He said “yes” that is true. I wondered if any of his people were tempted to kill a cow for food for their family rather than starve to death, but I didn’t, that cow thing is in their religion, but I bet the penalty would be death!
      So, anyway, the conversation lead to his retirement there….which is paid to the government and the government give whatever the citizen paid in at age 55yr. He said, everyone retires at age 55yr, so younger ones can take over their jobs.
      If, person paid in more they get more, but government give everyone a lump sum at age 55yr. I think China does the same thing, I was told by a Chinaman once a few years ago. Now if we were all paid our Social Security and Medicare payments in a lump sum that we have paid in over 46 years worth for me….I’d be all set and debt free and driving a new car and probably owning a business…..like the Indians and the Chinese do over here! LOL……I thought this was a very interesting conversation and it really didn’t take up much our time in the phone call while things were downloading and uploading etc.
      He was a really nice guy and smart in his field……
      I do think we in the USA could learn alot about how other countries health care plans are financed and work in places like India……However, like he said they due to the differences in the diet, they don’t get as much cancer or heart disease like we do in the USA. He said to they take alot of Herbs and things like that too. Which helps them treat problems. Americans can too but the FDA, since its not a drug but a plant product, and the FDA and the Pharmaceuticals can’t make any money on it, and the doctors don’t like it either since they had a hard time with their nutrition classes, and I think they must be taught that anyone who takes herbs and nutritional supplements is a rebel of the traditional medical model! It messes up their “for profit philosophy”. However, most of the drugs made by the drug companies come from plants……the toxic ones come from fertilizers and those are the ones I do not want to take….The problem is they try to take the plant and duplicate it in a lab, and then give it to us and call it a drug. Instead, we could save ourselves alot of human cell damage, if we just were allowed to take the plant in herb form. Which cost alot less, and has alot less side effects!
      I listen to Herbalists, D.O’s, and vetenarians…who keep animals supplemented to keep them disease free….since a diseased animal is not profitable.
      I wish everyone would take a course in Biochemistry…..and you’d have an understanding of what vitamins and enzymes and minerals we need in order for our bodies to perfrom right.
      WE aren’t low in chemotherapy or fertilizers or pesticides, petroleum, I’ll tell yah that! Did you know that lovastatins are made from Red Rice Yeast and that when you reduce your cholesterol it also reduces the enzyme COQ10 which is a catalyst for the ATP energy cycle? And many people get very fatigued with muscle wasting while on lovastatins? I spoke to a doctor about that and he ordered COQ10. It helped too to get rid of the fatigue. Coumadin is arsenic/rat poison….too much of that can cause a slow kill …and fatique..that is why they check your liver enzymes every month….but they don’t share with you why do they? They have to make sure they don’t toxify your liver and kill yah off….they are playing with your life with that drug and you have no idea how dangerous it is!
      Now will say …..antibiotics are good but they can cause cancer, and fungicides/Flagyl, its a pesticide and bad for you liver…but it will kill fungus’s that humans get….and they do save lives..but baby your taking some toxic chemicals to do it!
      You hear all the warnings on their TV commericals …..don’t you?
      Well, here in America, we are exposed so many chemicals they put in our food,on the soil its grown in, in the seeds they plant, and in cleaning chemicals, the paints, the soaps the water…so we don’t have live like they do in a 3 rd world country…..I know their thinking on this….but we are suffering from it too.
      I just wish the doctors would be paid to prevent disease with nutritional supplements and herbs….and I wish the FDA would just make sure our food chain is chemical and bacterial free. That would prevent alot of health conditions.
      I wish the Pharmaceutical companies would not try to re-invent the wheel, by trying to duplicate what nature produces anyway.
      We need massive herbal farms….we need to allow the Asian herbalists to share their research with us on treatment of disease. Garlic is a good blood thiner, and is a natural antibiotic. Calcium many times is made from, cement, chalk or oyster shells……who in their right mind would think that we could use any of that in our bodies? However, I do take the Chalk form for my osteoprosis!!!!!! Cauliflower is a good source of it and so is artesian well water….or boil some bones, like my mother use to do…e.g.hamhocks Honey and Maple Syrup is the sugar Fucose….a friendly immune modulator….I mimimize my intake of other forms of sugars, knowing what I know about them.
      Blackstrap Molasses is good for yah.it has the right kind of iron in it….I refuse to take the metal iron, ferrous sulfate.
      I do not want metals depositing in my arteries and veins and collecting nanobacterium and cholesterol and calium and hardening them up so much that they can’t pump my blood.
      So, anyway,,,,,,,,this is some of the ways I am preventing disease in my own body….oh I eliminated all products that contain aspartame sweetener 15 years ago…..and there are now 5,000 food products that contain it now, again approved by the FDA, in the USA. My doctor told me it was causing my migraines cause it converts to methane in my body…..so I eliminated it and haven’t had a migraine since,unless I accidentally, eat something with it in the product.She was a MD too!
      For instance, I was eating a fast food chicken sandwich at lunch…and getting a migraine about six hours later…after the third time I asked them if their mayonnaise had Aspartame in it, they checked their bulk jar label and sure enough there was Aspartame and MSG in it.
      So I eliminated mayonnaise on my chicken sandwich and no more migraines from eating it. Also, ironically, the Heinz pack of mayonnaise they can give yah does not have asperatame in it.
      I read my labels, which that is one good thing the FDA does make these companies write what is in the products. Also, I think it took about six months for my body to detoxify from Aspartame.
      I feel alot better now, for awhile I thought I had Multiple Sclerosis starting, my muscles feel normal now and my balance is better. Now if I am mistakenly given a diet pop at a fast food restaurant, the diet stuff tastes 10x sweeter than sugar and it has a chemical taste in my mouth…..I think it could be contributing to obesity in this country…they are trying to match, or crave, the sweet taste,with a gallon of ice cream and pies and cookies……! My doctor told me she thought it was causing seizures, TIA’s and Strokes! She said that is how toxic it is. So, see why I feel so strongly about things….with our government healthcare. My doctor has her own clinical trials that guide her practice. And thank-god she passed her knowledge along to her patients, for the sake of the health and prevention of diesase. That to me is being a good doctor. Unfortunately, I do live in that area anymore to go to her or to tell her how much that kernel of wisdom has helped me. Now, the dang government is still allowing Aspartame in more food products and once they do something they dont change it as the data comes in. So, now I have read thousands of labels and try to fight city hall………!!!! which is like trying knocking your head against a wall! GRRRRRR! This is my personal story and not meant for any advice. Its taken years of living to come up with these changes in my own life style. And I haven’t had health insurance for the past 25 years. I was in business for myself and couldn’t afford it or changed jobs and couldn’t afford Cobra. So, as I always say,,,it was up to me to seek out alternative doctors and study these things on my own time, to try to prevent disease. I wouldn’t take hormone replacements when it was offered to me either…cuz I thought it could cause cancer of the breast or female organs…but it might have helped to prevent my now osteoporosis! I should have studied that a bit more I guess….when my height started shrinking I should have known it was creeping in on me….but its painless.and doctors never warned me of it, either, when my height was shrinking..so had they done so I wouldn’t have supplemented better then..also, living in Michigan with low sunshine..we are Vitamin D-3 deficient more than the sunshine states…so that is kind of a new thing the doctors are onto now which is a good thing. Without D-3 we don’t absorb calcium properly. D-3 is activated with sunshine, cuz its stored in our skin, but believe it or not its stimulated through light going into our retina of our eyes.
      The bottom line is this. Insurance is needed for catastrophic “disease care”. If America is jobless…how will they pay for the proposed healthcare plan? Those with jobs…..who have healthcare is their any provision in their plans for disease prevention. If so, insurance are covering them then for more than catastrophic disease care. I wonder if all the government workers who have their healthcare plans for free..if they were required to have the same plan they want to give us fine, if not then maybe they would like to have some money taken out of their paychecks .e.g.$65 a month to pay for their American constituents catastrophic disease care! Also, I hope we aren’t waiting in line in a Urgent Care…..with 14 illegals and Canadians ahead of us! I hope they won’t give them a hospital bed ahead of a American Citizen either….we’ll see how this all turns out….in the meantime I am staying healthy without any toxic drugs or food additives, and eating good farm grown organic foods as much as I can afford.

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  24. WageslaveZ

    I applaud Ron Paul for his honesty, even if he’s facing the most uphill battle against the idiocracy the U.S. political system has become. Be afraid if he or anyone else like him ever disappears by unnatural circumstances and receives a brief soundbyte or tiny article buried in the middle of the newspaper, for then democracy will have truly died. I haven’t heard rhetoric like his since Thomas Paine or Ralph Waldo Emerson walked the Earth. Instead of relying upon misdirection or distraction like the two name-brand parties do, Paul actually tries to provide realistic solutions to current, repetitive problems in this nation. Yes we may not like the taste, but they’re real solutions. He makes the most sense to me because he invokes the Constitution that the current administration has wiped their asses with or otherwise shredded. I agree with him that government does need to be handled on a state or local level. What works best for one region, state, etc. will NEVER work on a national level. Yes health care would work if the unconstitutional I.R.S. and tax system didn’t rape up to half your paycheck a week and individual investment would decide the quality of care citizens would receive. Think of how much different the economy would be if you had the actual income to invest in it, whether in health care, manufacturing, or any other section. Think of how great it would be if employers would BENEFIT from hiring Americans instead of getting tax breaks for hiring immigrants, whether on visas or illegal, who manage to send BILLIONS out of this country on shit wages, and contribute next to nothing to our economy… Ron Paul is the only human being actually thinking about these issues, let alone trying to provide solutions… I hate how he has to work in Republican clothing to have even gotten this far, for he is truly a Libertarian. If he worked independtly he’d be a joke like Ralph Nader or Lyndon LaRouche. Why do we only get to choose two forms of poison as political representation in this country? I wish the rest of congress thought like Ron Paul, then they’d earn their bloated salaires and Jesus-level health care on our dime.

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  25. Allen Harris

    *These are my opinions*
    An unchecked “free” market, especially ones as profitable as the medical fields, lead to just as much, if not more than, those regulated by governmental bodies. I hold as case in point the mortgage and loan industries over the last decade.

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  26. Scott

    Ron just wants small government and has no solution to healthcare. By nature, small government = “You are on your own.” If everyone were a millionare, everyone would love this idea. Too bad we’re not all filthy rich. We need government because we need something greater than ourselves to help us deal with the problems greater than ourselves. We need to take our government back and make it work for the people – that is why it exists.

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  27. Juliet

    I am a bit disappointed that Ron Paul only says that the system is broken but does not proffer a solution. I get the idea of regulating less and to increase competition but that also leaves Healthcare and Insurance companies to continue to abuse the system. Healthcare is important as most if not all the people will require care at some point in their lives. Also, I absolutely scoff at the idea that we owe a debt to society but society does not have to return the favor.

    It is a fact that Healthcare has been run off course by greedy corporations but I do not get the idea that corporations will still be relied upon to provide Healthcare/Health Insurance in Ron Paul’s plan as is offered here. How will we then curtail the powers of Insurance companies and Healthcare providers? Would that not mean more regulation?

    I am mystified by the contradiction. I hope someone can enlighten me.

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  28. Miriam

    I agree, Norma!
    I love the sound of all his plans, but we all know the devil is in the details.
    How will the Ron Paul administration contain private corporation abuses in every area that he wants to remove government interference?
    Whether it is health care, schools, big business, etc.
    We all know how big business abuses us all.
    Without ANY oversight how will WE THE PEOPLE be protected?
    Debbie~ “policing their own” hasn’t worked. Look at the police~ have you really seen justice in that dept.?
    So while I support the initiative, I have REAL QUESTIONS as to how this all works out.
    Steve mentions the poor…yes how does the wealthiest country take care of their poor when there is no longer any incentive to do so?
    Private charities are going broke under the strain as it is with the increase in poverty.

    Please Rep/Dr Paul, please be more specific at least on your web site.

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  29. norma

    But what IS Ron Paul’s plan for health care? I understand he wants limited government, but how about LIMITED pharmaceutical corporations’ greed, at least?!

    This Health Care page does not make it clear what plan he advocates.

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  30. Survivor

    THE SOLUTION IS: WE NEED THE REST OF CONGRESS TO DO WHAT MR. GRASSLEY IS DOING.
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    PAXIL — (Senate – June 11, 2008)

    [Page: S5519]

    Mr. GRASSLEY. Madam President, for the last few years, I have been looking at how drug companies try and influence medical care in America. Companies can do this by, for example, creating studies favorable to their drugs, by hiring doctors to promote their products, and in some cases even intimidating critics of their drugs.

    Today, I would like to talk about a different tactic by drug companies hiding data. I don’t mean that they actually hide the data. But they make these numbers so difficult to find that they might as well be invisible.

    Last February, I asked GlaxoSmithKline to turn over a couple of reports on Paxil, a drug used to treat depression. These reports were written by Dr. Joseph Glenmullen, a professor of psychiatry at Harvard.

    Based on the review of documents uncovered in litigation, Dr. Glenmullen concluded that GlaxoSmithKline knew for almost two decades that Paxil is associated with an increased risk of suicide. He submitted these reports as an expert witness in several lawsuits now pending around the country.

    So what did GlaxoSmithKline do with these reports? Well, the company tried to hide them. They went to the judge and asked to have Dr. Glenmullen’s report and all the confirming documents placed under seal–that means that no member of the public could see them. In fact, Glaxo has been doing everything possible to ensure that this information remains under court seal.

    It seems to me that GlaxoSmithKline tried to hide these reports because they seem to demonstrate what the company knew–that Paxil was associated with an increased risk of suicide based on the company’s own studies. In fact, Dr. Glenmullen argues that GlaxoSmithKline knew this when they submitted the New Drug Application to the Food and Drug Administration back in 1989.

    Essentially, it looks like GlaxoSmithKline bamboozled the FDA.

    How did GlaxoSmithKline get away with this? Easy, they just moved around numbers in their studies to make it look like Paxil was safe. Here is how Dr. Glenmullen says they did it. GlaxoSmithKline ran several studies comparing people on Paxil against people on a placebo, in other words, a sugar pill.

    If a patient attempted suicide before a study began–let me emphasize this: Before the study began–that person was automatically put into the placebo group. That means the company was comparing Paxil users against patients who were already prone to suicide. So when you compared the placebo numbers to the Paxil numbers, it looked like Paxil was the same as the placebo.

    But, when Dr. Glenmullen re-analyzed the data, he found that Paxil WAS associated with a risk for suicide. And it looks like this is what GlaxoSmithKline was trying to hide from the American public.

    Thankfully, a judge in Kansas made one of Dr. Glenmullen’s reports public.

    Finally, I would like to address GlaxoSmithKline’s responses to my questions about whether it hid data on Paxil. I am unhappy to say that Glaxo’s answers were a little more than word games. I don’t wish to use the word “lie” but let me say this: their answers were less than candid.

    Let me give you one example. In a letter to GlaxoSmithKline, I asked them when they learned that Paxil was associated with suicide risk. They wrote back that they “detected no signal of any possible association between Paxil and suicidality in adult patients until late February 2006 …..”

    So GSK claims to a U.S. Senator they knew nothing about suicidality in adults until February 2006. But in the United Kingdom, government investigators found that the company had the data back in 1998.

    Two weeks after I received the letter from GSK, England’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency released a report on Paxil.

    The report concluded that data from GlaxoSmithKline’s own clinical trials confirmed that patients under 18 had a higher risk of suicidal behavior. This report involved 4 years of investigation by this agency which is England’s counterpart to our FDA. It was the largest most thorough report in the history of that agency.

    According to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency, the only reason that criminal charges were not filed in the UK is because “the legislation in force at the time was not sufficiently strong enough …..” So the company didn’t get off because it didn’t do anything wrong. It got off because the laws in UK did not address such situations.

    Today, I am asking the FDA to take a look at the same information that was examined in the UK. And I am asking the FDA if we need to change any laws here in the United States.

    We cannot live in a nation where drug companies are less than candid, hide information and attempt to mislead the FDA and the public. These companies are selling drugs that we put in our bodies, not sneakers. When they manipulate or withhold data to hide or minimize findings about safety and/or efficacy, they put patient safety at risk. And with drugs like Paxil, the risks are too great.

    The CEO of GlaxoSmithKline, Jean-Pierre Garnier, is resigning. I hope that the company’s new leadership will do right by the public and be more open about side effects of their products.

    What happened with Paxil, as well as, in my investigations involving the painkiller Vioxx and the antibiotic Ketek are only a few examples of why it is important that bad actors be held accountable when they withhold data, submit questionable or fraudulent data, or attempt to mislead the FDA, the medical community, and the public.

    That is why I am also working on legislation that would require that companies certify to the FDA that they gave the FDA complete and accurate data related to the safety and efficacy of their products and that the information is not false or misleading. If a company knowingly violates those certifications, it could be subject to civil and possibly criminal penalties.

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    1. Jan

      I think your right ……glad you survived! The problem with healthcare is its not healthcare. Its disease care with toxic drugs and barbaric surgery,approved by the FDA.

      President Obama got elected in part because he is for Preventative Care, which includes the non use of toxic drugs and the incorporation of nutritional supplements.

      I want Fluoride/Fluorsicic Acid (fertilizer) removed from our drinking water. Fluoride is a poison if ingested. If applied to the teeth without ingesting it it may prevent tooth decay.
      Did you know that Prozac is fluoride? Did you know that Hitler and Stalin put it in their people’s water to keep them calm while they rounded them up for the gas chamber? There is enough evidence out there that proves its toxic, and there is no evidence out there to prove it prevents toothdecay if ingested.
      “Show me the studies FDA”. zero. Did you know there is no law that allows our government to medicate the nation via our drinking water, without our conscent? If Prozac is fluoride, then I would say our government has been medicating us with it for the past 50yrs. The only thing is I haven’t drank fluoridated water….maybe that is why I can still think for myself. I have refused any of the SSI drugs which are made of Fluoride, and was recently offered it by my doctor,and I refused. I went to a dentist who wanted me to use a prescription dose of Fluoride toothpaste, which I refused…he said it only had 200 times the dose of a glass of water. I quit both the dentist and the doctor. Their indoctrinated. I go to doctors who have knowledge and wisdom about the body…and aren’t into toxic drugs.
      Check out the video….by a dentist,who discovered after using it on his patients for 25yrs. the facts….(of course us “healthnuts” have known it for 35 years), but now maybe they will listen to this guy and the FDA Union members who protested the use of Fluoride and lost their jobs over it..

      The FDA runs the “disease care” in this country. I think they are really ignorant. I hope this new director of the FDA has a bit more common sense…and they wonder why we feel we are being persecuted as concerned Americans living in this country.

      What is good is labeled bad and what is bad is labeled good. I think a famous Prophet warned us 2009 years ago, that it would come to this …
      Dr. Bill Osmunson: Exposing the Dangers of Fluoride
      http://www.republicmagazine.com/webinar/previous.htm

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      1. Survivor 030406

        Wow, interesting that I got a reply one year later.
        I am aware of the flouride-psychiatry-nazi matrix.
        One thing I must point out here is that the FDA is not really what most people beleive it to be. The FDA is known as the “revolving door”. Here is why. Here’s an example.
        GSK invented a poison called paxil. Now of course no legitamate ethical science based authority would approve of this. So the way GSK gets around that issue, is they put thier head cheif in the FDA as the FDA head cheif. The new cheif threatens the scientists to shut them up. The marketing firm then provides phony “research” papers to the FDA, and the head cheif “approves” the drug. Then the imposter goes back to his cushy job at GSK to reap $millions in kickbacks for the crime he just committed while millions of people are forced against their will to take the so-called medicine. And this results in the disabling and killing of millions of inocents.

        We can’t rely on the government to do anything about this roothless murderous cartel. The exception here is sen. Grassley.
        The rest of the elite cock roaches running the New World Order are all on the dole$ for poisoning humanity under the guise of treating ficticous diseases.

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        1. Jan

          Well, I don’t doubt your statements about the phony way the FDA works. For instance, I was recently diagnosed with osteoporosis. My traditional doctor who “practice’s medicine”, wanted to order that I take Fosamax once a week, FDA approved treatment, $120 a month medication. I refused, but agreed to take increased calcium,strontium,and Vitamin D-3 10,000 units a day. Which is way too high of dose! And then she said she was discharging me from her practice and I would have to find another doctor! Which I am doing.
          I talked with a friend of mines husband, who has a PH.D in Pharmacy, and he said, “good,did I know that only two studies were done on Fosamax before it was approved by the FDA. Two people with osteoporosis were studied, one was given Fosamax and one was not. The one who recieved it got one fracture and the one didn’t take it got two fractures.
          So, they claimed by taking fosamax you have a fifty fifty chance of not getting any fractures!” He said, now look at all the money the drug companies are making on just that drug alone. And the taxpayer has to buy it with taxed money so the government is double dipping on us as well. I love to talk to Pharmacists who are also into Health. He told me doctors hate chemistry and nutrition.
          And they really don’t have the knowledge that pharmacists have to be able to prescribe. I told him I think a Pharmacist should be the one who prescribes medications, not doctors. But, then I said, what would they be good for? That is how they treat disease is with drugs they know nothing about or how they interact in our bodies or how toxic they are to us from what they are made of.
          Doctors would be out of job if they didn’t prescribe….cuz they do nothing other than give us pills.
          LOL!

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          1. Survivor030406

            First, let me clarify some points. Most people still believe the myth that the FDA is a public watchdog group. In reality, they are the drug CARTEL LAPDOG group. It is highly likely that there were more than just two studies done. What these ruthless criminals do is break every law every step of the way. And with the 1% chance they get caught and fined (even in the billion$), it is nothing more than a minute cost of doing business. The fact that big brother isn’t policing the cartel is in effect giving them permission to put hundreds of millions of lives in jeopardy. Take note of the fact that the negative studies are always covered up, as not to jeopardize FDA approval, and future profits. Now when a drug comes onto the market, half of the dangers are not known. Also, from a legal standpoint, it is only illegal for drug companies to advertise to consumers non-approved uses of the drugs. It is not illegal for the drug cartel to send propaganda directly to doctors for non-approved uses. In fact Jansen Pharmacuetica co. sent letters to doctors instructing them give their risperdal (chemical lobotomy) to people for no medical reason at all. It was around this time that Dr. Jeff Palacios gave me risperdal claiming it was a beta blocker to stabilize my hyperadrenalism which was causing me a heart rate of 250. This insane criminal scum nearly killed me. I am now disabled for the rest of my life with severe debilitating injuries.
            Now in your case, I’m sure your doctor did not bother telling you that one of the primary outcomes of fosamax is jawbone necrosis. Your jawbone will die and rot if you take that poison. Also, bear in mind the legal fact that doctors cannot recommend any dietary suppliments or herbs, or he/she will not only lose the license, but also could go to jail. Because they are restricted to only telling you what the lapdog FDA and the big pharma cartel has approved by ruthless criminal activity.
            Most people turn a blind eye, because they don’t want to accept the fact that the system is run by pure evil psychopathic scum. These mass murdering cock roaches actually were caught with a hit list of doctors they planned to neutralize for criticizing their poisons.
            Your life depends on waking up and educating yourself about how the system works, and health issues, and the legitimate sciences. Don’t count on the monolithic drug cartel to have legal or scientific integrity when billions of $ are at hand.
            And you touched upon another important point as well. That is, when doctors go to school, they learn nothing about science, they only learn to deal drugs to unsuspecting ignorant people. Like a wolf guarding the sheep. I’m always doing my own research, always informing myself. Since most people would rather blindly obey authority and be herded along by a system invented by psychopaths to lead us to the slaughter, millions more will die at the hand of elite sycophant scum . As far as I’m concerned, legitimate scientific proof is the best measure of what is best for my health, and not New World Order corporatocracy. If it’s good enough for horses it’s good enough for me. RIGHT RON PAUL? er..um..well..end the fed?

            LOOK HERE…THIS WILL NOT KILL JAWBONES LIKE FOSAMAX…

            Sodium pentosan polysulfate (PPS) is a linear polymer prepared from xylan, a complex hemicellulose extract of plant (Beechwood) origin. PPS is one of the sulfated heparinoid compounds. The heparin-like anti-coagulant effects have been reduced and the anti-inflammatory, fibrinolytic, and tissue trophic effects have been enhanced.
            PENTOSAN EQUINE actively reverses the effects of osteoarthritis in the joints via a series of actions, including:
            (a) Stimulating Chondrocyte Metabolism – resulting in increased production of proteoglycans and healthy cartilage matrix. PPS stimulates synovial fibroblasts to produce increased amounts of high molecular weight hyaluronic acid which results in an increased production of normally viscous joint fluid. Improving the fluid volume and consistency results in more effective joint lubrication and stabilisation, which limits further cartilage damage.
            (b) Anti-inflammatory Activity – PPS has an inhibitory action on all mediators of the arachidonic acid cascade. PPS also inhibits the lysosomal catabolic enzymes hyaluronidase, histamine, cathepsin B, and polymorphonuclear elastase. PPS exerts a specific inhibitory effect on mediators implicated in the degradation of cartilage matrix components, preserving the cartilage and preventing the release of the highly inflammatory mediators, thus relieving pain and inflammation.
            (c) Fibrinolysis and Lipolysis – PPS is strongly fibrinolytic, stimulating the release of plasminogen activator, and promoting the dissolution of thrombi and fibrin deposits in synovial tissues and subchondral blood vessels. PPS also mobilises lipids and cholesterol in synovial and subchondral blood vessels, which have been implicated in the pathogenesis of osteoarthritis in older animals. These effects combine to increase the prefusion to the joint, which stimulates cartilage healing and repair.
            PENTOSAN EQUINE is a sophisticated approach to the long term management of osteoarthritis in horses.
            PENTOSAN EQUINE is equally effective by both intramuscular and intra-articular injection. Unlike traditional treatments, the unique effects of PENTOSAN EQUINE promote healing and the restoration of a healthy joint, in addition to having a safe antiinflammatory effect.
            PENTOSAN EQUINE is NOT a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug like Phenylbutazone, or the cortisones (both of which have damaging effects on joints with prolonged use). PENTOSAN EQUINE does not suppress joint cartilage healing and repair.
            Rather than simply masking pain, PPS directly stimulates joint healing and repair.
            Anti-inflammatory agents, corticosteroids and NSAIDs all relieve the symptoms of osteoarthritis but DO NOT ALTER THE DISEASE PROCESS. Both hydrocortisone and NSAIDs have a marked inhibitory effect on the biosynthesis of the components of the extracellular matrix of cartilage, which limits the early healing response of cartilage to injury.

            Indications
            Non-infectious inflammatory joint disease, traumatic arthritis, degenerative cartilaginous joint disease, osteoarthritis and osteochondrosis dessicans in horses.

            Dosage and Administration
            Administer at a dose rate of 3 mg/kg bodyweight (1.5 g / 500 kg horse), by intramuscular injection, at 5 – 7 day intervals for four injections. PENTOSAN EQUINE is equally effective when given by intramuscular or intra-articular injection.
            If intra-articular use is required, administer 1mL by sterile intra-articular injection. PPS has an affinity for cartilage, and active drug levels will accumulate for several days after administration. For maximum effect, tissues should be exposed to the drug over an extended period, hence the four injections. A period of improvement for up to 6 months following a course of four injections may be expected. If at any time during this period the horse becomes sore (e.g. following a particular activity), it is safe to administer a further injection to settle any inflammatory process.
            PENTOSAN EQUINE is particularly effective, and displays synergy with, concurrent use of COSEQUIN EQUINE (Glucosamine and Chondroitin sulfate supplement), to provide the essential raw materials for joint repair and maintenance.

            Presentation
            6mL sterile single dose glass vial. Provides one dose (1.5 g) for a 500 kg horse at the recommended dose rate (3 mg/kg).

            Storage
            Store at 2 – 8o C (Refrigerate. Do not freeze). Protect from light.

            Poisons Schedule
            S4

            APVMA Approval Number
            51986

            General Notes
            Contraindications: Use in horses with clotting defects, traumatic haemhorrage, infection, renal or hepatic failure, or within 48 hours of surgery.

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  31. Steve

    Ron Paul is right on on civil liberties issues and pre-emptive international military actions like Iraq. But, I can’t get past a few of his other policy stands. His laissez-faire attitude toward the poor seems like it would lead to our moving more toward something like a Dickensian England. His man-made global warming denial is also bothersome for me. It seems he denies the science on the issue, for instance stating the world glaciers aren’t receding – that although some are receding, some are advancing – when the science has stated that the overall global data shows mass loss and retreat of glaciers during the last century.

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  32. leslie

    I still don’t see his position on this. What is his answer on fixing this problem. I want to see if his method will work or if it will fail like every other plan.

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  33. Debbie

    By the way, one way to lower malpractice premiums for physicians is to have the physicians police their own. As with any insurance, the more claims the higher the premiums. Put the fault of rising premiums where it belongs, on the shoulders of Doctors who stand by and let their “brother” continue to practice when its evident they do not belong in medicine. Premiums for insurance will drop when there are little need for lawsuits. Windfall verdicts? How much is your life worth? Our health care is not broken. Remove the illegals that sponge off it first, saves alot of resources for the American. Force Physicians to be responsible for their actions which will lower premiums for all.Limit how many foreign Doctors can come over here and set up shop. Over 70% of all malpractice suits are brought up against Physicians who were not schooled in America. Instead of trying to recreate our health care, try these simple repairs that worked for many decades.

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  34. Debbie

    Ok, I like where Ron Paul stands on most issues but, where does he stand on health care? I didn’t see his response.

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  35. Houston Reagan

    I failed to see your solution to our health care crisis in your above statement, what is it?

    You have my support but you appear to be coming up short on explaining your solution!!

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