Health Care

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In these United States of America, many people cannot afford even basic health insurance. They suffer severely under the present system and have to live under the constant fear of not knowing what they will do if they or their loved ones ever fall seriously ill.

But in many cases, insured individuals aren’t much better off either. In comparison to the exorbitant insurance premiums they pay, the medical care they receive is often very poor.

Additionally, due to the government-enforced monopolies of HMOs (Health Maintenance Organizations) and pharmaceutical companies, many patients will never even hear about some of the most effective and non-invasive treatment methods. These natural and inexpensive ways of regaining one’s health are being suppressed by the FDA and the medical establishment not because of safety concerns (they’ve been around for hundreds of years), but because they cannot be patented and would therefore cut into the pharmaceutical industry’s profits.

The current system is most definitely broken, and it must eventually be abolished if we want to regain both our health and our freedom.

But Obamacare is the worst possible answer. All it does is perpetuate a flawed system by forcing everyone to become a client of insurance companies, even those who don’t want to or need to participate.

Why should anyone be forced to subsidize the medical care of others? Very few individuals would personally assault their neighbors at gunpoint and steal thousands of dollars to pay for their own medical needs. How could any freedom loving person agree to delegate such criminal acts to the government by supporting a compulsory health insurance system?

There is only one solution that will lead to true health and true freedom: making health care more affordable. Ron Paul believes that only true free market competition will put pressure on the providers and force them to lower their costs to remain in business. Additionally, Ron Paul wants to change the tax code to allow individual Americans to fully deduct all health care costs from their taxes.

Through these measures and the elimination of government-sponsored health care monopolies a much larger number of people will be able to finally access affordable health care, either by paying for medical insurance or by covering their medical expenses, which are now much lower, out of their own pocket.

As for the poor and the severely ill who can neither obtain insurance nor pay for the medical care they need, Ron Paul offers the following solution in his bookThe Revolution: A Manifesto“:

In the days before Medicare and Medicaid, the poor and elderly were admitted to hospitals at the same rate they are now, and received good care. Before those programs came into existence, every physician understood that he or she had a responsibility towards the less fortunate and free medical care was the norm. Hardly anyone is aware of this today, since it doesn’t fit into the typical, by the script story of government rescuing us from a predatory private sector.

Illegal aliens already receive de-facto free health care. Why can’t poor Americans have the same… not as a right, but as a charitable benefit provided by doctors who feel a personal responsibility for their fellow citizens?

Unfortunately, the current medical monopoly corrupts many doctors by rewarding practices that are not in the patients’ best interest. Pharmaceutical companies have a vested interest in not curing people, but getting them permanently addicted to expensive drugs that have many side effects, thereby requiring additional drugs to suppress those side effects. Many doctors are afraid to speak up and question the system for fear of being ostracized by their peers or even losing their license.

Under a liberated health care system prices would come down and additional options would become available, thereby making health care much more affordable. Moral corruption would give way to true compassion, and many doctors would remember their implicit obligation to provide free medical care to those in need, just like they did in the past.

As a medical doctor, Ron Paul swore the Hippocratic Oath many decades ago. His entire person and career is a monument to the beauty and sanctity of human life. Ron Paul knows that life without health can be very difficult and is not what it was meant to be. He has personally cared for the poor for many years, without asking anything in return.

The government’s original role is to protect our freedoms and restrain itself from causing too much harm. Ron Paul is working to prevent greedy bureaucrats, opportunist politicians and corrupt pharmaceutical companies from having any sort of unhealthy influence over our bodies and minds.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution and help us put the federal government back where it belongs: to Washington DC and out of our daily lives.

Transcript:

Government has been mismanaging medical care for more than 45 years; for every problem it has created it has responded by exponentially expanding the role of government.

Points to consider:

  1. No one has a right to medical care. If one assumes such a right, it endorses the notion that some individuals have a right to someone else’s life and property. This totally contradicts the principles of liberty.
  2. If medical care is provided by government, this can only be achieved by an authoritarian government unconcerned about the rights of the individual.
  3. Economic fallacies accepted for more than 100 years in the United States has deceived policy makers into believing that quality medical care can only be achieved by government force, taxation, regulations, and bowing to a system of special interests that creates a system of corporatism.
  4. More dollars into any monopoly run by government never increases quality but it always results in higher costs and prices.
  5. Government does have an important role to play in facilitating the delivery of all goods and services in an ethical and efficient manner.
  6. First, government should do no harm. It should get out of the way and repeal all the laws that have contributed to the mess we have.
  7. The costs are obviously too high but in solving this problem one cannot ignore the debasement of the currency as a major factor.
  8. Bureaucrats and other third parties must never be allowed to interfere in the doctor/patient relationship.
  9. The tax code, including the ERISA laws, must be changed to give everyone equal treatment by allowing a 100% tax credit for all medical expenses.
    Laws dealing with bad outcomes and prohibiting doctors from entering into voluntary agreements with their patients must be repealed. Tort laws play a significant role in pushing costs higher, prompting unnecessary treatment and excessive testing. Patients deserve the compensation; the attorneys do not.
  10. Insurance sales should be legalized nationally across state lines to increase competition among the insurance companies.
  11. Long-term insurance policies should be available to young people similar to term-life insurances that offer fixed prices for long periods of time.
  12. The principle of insurance should be remembered. Its purpose in a free market is to measure risk, not to be used synonymously with social welfare programs. Any program that provides for first-dollar payment is no longer insurance. This would be similar to giving coverage for gasoline and repair bills to those who buy car insurance or providing food insurance for people to go to the grocery store. Obviously, that could not work.
  13. The cozy relationship between organized medicine and government must be reversed.
    Early on medical insurance was promoted by the medical community in order to boost re-imbursements to doctors and hospitals. That partnership has morphed into the government/insurance industry still being promoted by the current administration.
  14. Threatening individuals with huge fines by forcing them to buy insurance is a boon to the insurance companies.
  15. There must be more competition for individuals entering into the medical field. Licensing strictly limits the number of individuals who can provide patient care. A lot of problems were created in 20th century as a consequence the Flexner Report (1910), which was financed by the Carnegie Foundation and strongly supported by the AMA. Many medical schools were closed and the number of doctors was drastically reduced. The motivation was to close down medical schools that catered to women, minorities and especially homeopathy. We continue to suffer from these changes which were designed to protect physician’s income and promote allopathic medicine over the more natural cures and prevention of homeopathic medicine.
  16. We must remove any obstacles for people seeking holistic and nutritional alternatives to current medical care. We must remove the threat of further regulations pushed by the drug companies now working worldwide to limit these alternatives.

True competition in the delivery of medical care is what is needed, not more government meddling.

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2,444 responses to “Health Care”

  1. Gary Barker

    Congressman Paul I have long admired and respected your views. Your history has been that you are willing to seek a clarity of vision when the larger population has yet to appreciate your view. When you speak, I often think I need to pause and listen. Regarding healthcare, conservative alternatives have not been able to give life to legislation that would harness the primary drivers of cost including one of the most egregious, the insurance industry. I am sure you are familiar with Wendell Potter, the former VP with Cigna, and his recent testimony before congress. I cannot wait another 10 years for a response to the current healthcare paradigm in the United States.

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  2. rev

    “There is only one solution that will lead to true health and true freedom: making health care more affordable. Ron Paul believes that only true free market competition will put pressure on the providers and force them to lower their costs to remain in business.”

    Yep, that ‘free market competition’ worked SO well with the Auto Industry and Wall Street. Now, let’s take another failed conservative policy and apply it to the Health Care crisis. Dumb! I respect Mr. Paul, but this is definitely NOT the answer.

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    1. No Problem

      Where was this free market?

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  3. Tony Ritcherson

    If the true Patriots of the US of A would get together with a good plan, maybe we could overcome the fascisim that is being espoused upon us these days. What if Ron Paul, Thomas Sowell, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Neils Borks, Mark Levin, Anne Coulter, Sarah Palin,Glen Beck, Laura Ingram, Michelle Malkin, etc. were to pool their energies to put a stop to the damn unpatriotic and dispicable behavior being pushed upon the American people today. You damn right it’s time for a change! It’s time to fire Supreme Court Justices, Congressmen, and Congresswomen, who don’t give one iota in hell about this free country. It’s time to bring back our Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights to move us back into the right direction. I’ts time to adhere to the 10th Amendment to the Constitution, to slash the Federal Government, to do away with the IRS, the Federal Reserve and the Department of Education, among others. And it’s time that we the people began to take our country back before it’s too late.

    Where is the federal movement with the above to deliever this country, and place it back under the true design, desires and dignity of the Founding Fathers?

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    1. Amazed

      Coulter, Rush, Hannity, Palin…. “True Patriots?!?!” More like “Truly Crazed and Avoiding Reality.” C’mon, buddy, you sound as delusional and tired as they do.

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  4. Mayor of Simpleton

    Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer has agreed to pay $75 million to settle a class action lawsuit filed against it by Nigerian parents who claim the company caused harm to their children by using them as guinea pigs in a nonconsensual, unlicensed drug trial.

    The case began in 1996, when Pfizer needed a human trial to gain approval for its new antibiotic Trovan. When an epidemic of meningitis, cholera and measles broke out in Kano, Nigeria, the company quickly put together a research team and flew them to that country. Pfizer set up a tent right near the medical station where Doctors Without Borders were giving free treatments and recruited 200 children to participate in an unlicensed drug trial.

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  5. Roberta

    Is there such a thing as a politician who isn’t a liar and not out for power and personal gain? I don’t trust anyone anymore, but what can we do? In this country of by the people, of the people and for the people, the people seem to be powerless and manipulated by greedy politicians and the media. For the first time in my sixty-two years I’m afraid for my country, myself, my children, my grandchildren. Some nights I go to bed afraid and some mornings what’s happening in this country is the first thing on my mind. How has this happened? How, especially after 911 could someone like Barak Obama be elected president? No birth records, no school records, minimal experience. Have we all gone mad? Does no one remember Adolf Hitler? Is this the Fourth Reich in its early stages? Why is Obama is such a hurry? To hoodwink the people and their representatives who have opted not to go along with his agenda? Is he the real terrorist working from the inside out? Something needs to be done. I don’t know why I would expect Ron Paul to be any more honest than any other politician, but count me in if it’s a way to get The Obamanation out.

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  6. longshotlouie

    12,000 U.S. Children To Be Swine Flu Vaccine Guinea Pigs
    http://newsok.com/state-kids-to-get-shot-at-swine-flu-vaccine/article/3387609

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    1. Christine

      Who recruits these Americans against other Americans and how is it they all go along with the plan? Doesn’t anybody have a conscience, an independent thought? Do they know that the word NO is a complete sentence.

      So the Oklahoma bombing was not enough, eh? A lot of children died in that bombing.

      Let’s have our politicians line their children up first, them second. No, on second thought, politicians and the FED together. Line ‘em up. it would save the children and the rest of us a lot of trouble.

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  7. longshotlouie

    Obama Puts Monsanto Lobbyist In Charge Of Food Safety
    http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_18635.cfm

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  8. Uncleduke316

    So please correct me if I’m wrong but Obama is going to fine people who don’t have health insurance so that people who don’t have insurance can be covered?????????

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    1. Christine

      The fines are pure profit. So will be the mandatory insurance premiums when the insurance is never or rarely used because the cost of the actual health care and services offered is still too high!

      We need the actual costs of health care and services to be affordable, affordable for every citizen, not a middleman (insurance). This is a basic human need, just like housing, income…all those things that are under attack so that we cannot responsibly take care of ourselves. (see the video below)

      The “insurance” does not pay the total amount due when you receive health care and services, right? With jobs being lost, income loss, people will be unable to make premium payments, And even if citizens can make the payment, it’s still an additional mandatory, inflexible household expense. Obama makes it sound like there are real benefits… won’t lose health insurance if you have a job loss, no pre-existing condition clause, no lost insurance if you want to start a business…but we have not been told the amount of the premium (before buying into such a deal) to know that we will be just as stressed out to maintain health insurance with his plan, under these economic conditions, as we were before the plan. The difference will be is that the government is a failure at running programs (medicare, medicaid, social security), and they would have control over our ability to take care of our health, our lives.

      We need to use our thinking minds, even our intuition, to let us know if something is good/not good because there is a lot they DO NOT say. Obama’s job and Pelosi’s job is to make it sound like, as she puts it, “a gift to the American people”. Now tell me, how could it be a “gift” when we pay for it ourselves?!! …provided we would be able to make the premium payment. This is not a solution.

      Those that have been working on the new world order plan have been doing so subtley over a very long period of time. Stay with this video and see how we have digressed over just the past generation into their hands, by their handiwork with our economy. It will tell you a lot about how families used to be prosperous and why it is getting harder and harder.

      The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A&feature=channel

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  9. gburg61

    jane
    tell you what jane you take care of all “the babies dying on your doorstep” and I will take care of mine..okay? anything else is nationalist socialism..remember them? so you feel if the cause is just the rest of us have NO rights? human nature jane is what causes these so called horrors you imagine…nothing else…this is america? you have to be joking

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  10. Christine

    Health Care Reform On Hold Until After August Recess
    http://www.cspan.org/Watch/Media/2009/07/24/HP/R/21300/Health+Care+Reform+On+Hold+Until+After+August+Recess.aspx

    Pelosi is so obnoxious. “Aren’t you so excited…?” No.
    You can listed to Obama’s health speech. I’m sure they both want this health care plan to pass before they start using the “D” word and annoucing that we are in a depression. A depression with a mandatory payment for health insurance or pay a fine. And before the swine flu season arrives!

    We don’t need health care insurance, we need lower medical care and services costs! That’s a free market issue!

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  11. peter okeefe

    absolut lenin 101 …#1 small part of texas opted out of Social security back when and there investments DWARF the zero percent paid by the govt. so yes SS has helped NO one except those that recieve more than they ever paid in.
    #2 PRIVATE health care insurance companies…private is the key word..dont like it purchase elsewhere…you are saying it is okay to force me to pay for your care ..RIGHT?? so if the cause is just some must rob from others because after all someone is sick..right?
    #3 why dont they deserve health care??? because I have the god given right declared in our founding documents to be left alone.
    PERIOD!! no more need be said than that..being said I have 3 adopted kids of which 2 have a handicap…THEY need my help and I dont want them penalized by some crats idea of “whats right”
    #4 the US govt becomes a market for insurance???funny I do NOT see that right among the amendments??do you??besides not being able to create a market because it is a physical impossibility since ALL the have comes from us…if they would get out of health care then market forsces would push down cost..but that is contrary to lenin 101
    #4 my daughter catherine see’s THE most talented nuero-surgeon in the world and I pay cash even though I have union insurance…the best and brightest will leave the field and we will be left with dopes…how ..in gods name can a thinking human being believe that DC is a competant force doing well for us??the military could not get even the correct caliber ammo to its forces in vietnam…and this is the miltary for gods sake..the
    UPS and fedex cannot compete??with the mail?then why are they banned by law from trying??? my only thought is that you work for the dark side and do not really believe whay you say

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  12. longshotlouie

    If government-run health care is such a great idea, why won’t members of Congress enroll their own families?

    The question has been on the minds of many Americans, but Democrats aren’t giving answers. Instead, they are exemptig themselves from their own health care “reform.”

    The Affordable Health Choices Act drafted by Sen. Edward Kennedy’s staff and the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee pushes “Americans into stingy insurance plans with tight, HMO-style controls,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

    At the same time, Page 114 of the act specifically exempts members of Congress from the public plan.

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    1. Christine

      Oops…forgot what he enticed the American people with on the campaign trail …again.

      “You’re going to be able to buy the same kind of health insurance that Senator McCain and I enjoy as Federal Employees, because there’s a huge pool we can drop the cost.”
      …blah …blah …blah …blah …blah …blah …blah

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erspfMkqLN4

      What we need are lower, affordable health care and services costs, not insurance!

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  13. Never Forget

    The version of President Obama’s universal health care plan pending in the U.S. House would require “end-of-life” counseling for senior citizens, and the former lieutenant governor for the state of New York is warning people to “protect their parents” from the measure.

    Section 1233
    Page 425

    The law also allows preferences that treatment levels set up by patients “may range from an indication for full treatment to an indication to limit some or all … interventions.”

    McCaughey also said the Obama administration is suggesting that medical care be withheld from seniors based on the expected years they have left to live. Such a program already is in effect in the United Kingdom, where patients losing their eyesight to age-related macular degeneration cannot be given an eyesight-saving medication until they lose sight in one eye.

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  14. Jane Boucher

    Where does the working poor fit in , that does not qualify for tax rebates since they don’t pay taxes, and who don’t want free medical just affordable medical ins.. someone making 9 bucks a hr. cannot afford the ins. premiums they have today, are they left out in the cold too, and the ER is no solution they go there with a broken foot, get patched up and referred to follow up care by a expensive physician, so they ae left with no medical care. People are dying from lack of medical care and this is a fact. sad since if its not a right, Americans just die, maybe pensions are not a right either. Jane Boucher.

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    1. Christine

      When I worked for state government, I came to the same realization. The insurance premiums were deducted from my paycheck, as many other tax deductions. While the amount of the deduction after deduction was being explained to me, I said “I sure hope there is enough left over to live on!”

      With insurance, the insurance does not cover the payment in entirety for the actual medical costs for dr. visits, etc., so even though I had insurance, I never used it because I could not afford to then add on any other expenses left over after the insurance had paid their portion. This insurance was mandatory and a total profit for the insurance company! Does this sound familiar to the Obama Care plan to you?

      Insurance is not what we need. It will not reduce costs. It creates the additional cost of insurance premiums! We need the actual costs of medical care and services to be affordable.

      The insurance company is in it for profit and they are profiting. Obama would like the government to be in this financial position to create yet another revenue stream from Americans. Projected what would happen, with the annual review of the government run program, is higher premiums and less coverage over time. No insurance plan brings down the cost of the actual medical costs and care. All it does is put in a middleman for profit.

      Without insurance premiums to pay, we can use our money for actual care and services, and get the care that is recommended by our doctors of choice. The health care industry needs to bring down it’s prices to compete, just like any other free market business. There will need to be many adjustments to the actual costs of care and drugs. If the actual costs of care were affordable, even on unemployment, we can still receive care.

      Businesses are paying employees less, cutting back hours, going out of business, job losses, many are retiring and the programs they thought they could depend on…government run programs…are bankrupt. All of us are dealing with living on less, so can the health care industry! Our government has had our best insterests at heart, or this would their programs would not be failing. The government we have now, cannot be trusted with our health! They’ve proven it already. Wake up America. You don’t hire a company or government that has a history of running programs in the ditch! …and it certainly does not solve the real underlying problem…the actual cost of care and services. A free market issue of goods and services.

      By the way, I subscribe to the Obama newsletter to keep tabs on what they are using their database to accomplish. They sent out an email with the names and phone numbers of my specific congresswomen with instructions to give them a call to get them on board with the Obama Care plan. Thankfully, I have bright congresswomen who are opposed to the plan.

      Maybe someday, in a much more advanced society, we will learn to live without money and do what we ordinarily do in a day from our humanity, from our hearts, and simply find no need to be controlled by money and those behind the money scheme. None of us have ever known what this would be like, but I have imagined it.

      The financial industry has really gotten way out of hand with an obsessive need for power and control over others. They need to get real jobs that actually contribute constructively to society instead of what they do that is only self-serving and destructive to the world as a whole. They create wars, lives are lost, countries destroyed, human needs are not met and our short time on this planet is severely altered from their influence and destructive plans that do not respect the earth or life. Round them up and put them in a permanent rehab program so they can do no harm.

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      1. peter okeefe

        Maybe someday, in a much more advanced society, we will learn to live without money and do what we ordinarily do in a day from our humanity, from our hearts, and simply find no need to be controlled by money and those behind the money scheme. None of us have ever known what this would be like, but I have imagined it.

        The financial industry has really gotten way out of hand with an obsessive need for power and control over others. They need to get real jobs that actually contribute constructively to society instead of what they do that is only self-serving and destructive to the world as a whole. They create wars, lives are lost, countries destroyed, human needs are not met and our short time on this planet is severely altered from their influence and destructive plans that do not respect the earth or life. Round them up and put them in a permanent rehab program so they can do no harm.

        OMG do you really believe this?? please cristy go back on your meds and move back in with mom and dad….round them up? and tatto them right?? or right into the ovens?
        kum-by-ya my lord!!

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        1. Christine

          You must have been doing some recent reading on Natzi stuff and socialism and things like “round up”. Sorry to stir up such emotions (you might need some meds), but I’m not thinking of anything like you twisted my comment to mean. I said a rehab program and I’m thinking of the FED, the elite bankers and their network. They have caused a lot of ill in this world.

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    2. peter okeefe

      jane
      you really need to do some reading..the working poor that pay no taxes recieve the largest share of “earned income credits’ that you can imagine..5-10 thousand per family with NO taxes paid.
      as a young man I EARNED my insurance and PAID into my pension and was forced to pay into the ponzi scheme known as social security…What about all citizens right to NOT be robbed?
      you would not go down the block and rob your neighbor but you would elect someone to do it for you if the cause was right?

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      1. Jane Boucher

        I READ A LOT, MY SON GOT 70 BUCKS BACK FOR earned income tax credit, whats he to do with that go get the MRI.?, THE WORD THERE IS FAMILY, HE IS A SINGLE TAXPAYER. AND THATS what he got. Well as it is now , we are paying for the insured (congress) uninsured and everyone else. talk abt being robbed, if we have to pay the least we could have is our own insurance. Good for you for doing so well in life, you are not a young single mom struggling day by day to feed kids and watching healthcare premiums sky rocket, when I was 17, I rented my own apt. , bought myself luxories and opened a bank acct and had money left over, try doing this today if you are 17. Some folks works in low paying jobs, someone has to do these jobs. and no one in my family wants FREE CARE just affordable. Are you willing to bury your head in the sand and not admit good folks are dying due to uninsurance and no one deserves that. This is America. But the fact is doing NOTHING COST you even more , cause you pay when folks get late stage cancer more than taking care of illness’s in the beginning. and pay the 600 the poor folks go to visit the ER when they don’t have 45 to visit a clinic, who do you think pays that 600 buck ER bill and by the way thats what it cost to visit the ER IN Our town. so i GUESS you don’t think that is robbery. I guess you can say I am a sucker cause I’d rather pay more than watch a 6 mo. baby die at my doorstep. AND BY the way I HAVE great health ins. myself. Jane.

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  15. gburg61

    christine
    I watched young men live under extreme stress for long periods of time without any physical sickness so i do not think your connection between stress and sickness is valid.As a young person you enjoy the naivete of beleiving goodness is the inherant nature of man…it is not…natures balance demand both.good and evil.war is natures way of balancing all things…bugs..or humans. The fastest way of putting a “corrupt” company out of business is for marketing forces to take effect.The very idea of an FDA to watch out for “corrupt” companies will invite the very thing you wish to avoid.
    “Societies that live stress free are superior’ well I dont even know what to say to that..except ..we aren’t in kansas anymore toto! that you would like to see a happy society is …well..very nice. I would like to see ALL of us keeping our noses out of each others butt…I do not need an FDA to protect me or a president to “do what I want or do not want” I require what the founding fathers legacy requires…a chain on other men such as the bill of rights dictates. the right to be left alone and in the words of a great american “To come or go,buy or sell, be drunk or sober as I deem fit” this is what a REPUBLIC is…the word gives me a warm feeling in my chest…a feeling a man gets when his firstborn son makes a sound like a man” recognize the quote chris?? no? well I have the advantage of my age…in liberty we agree but I am a little tired.forgive me?

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    1. Christine

      Perhaps this is not one of your sober times.

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  16. joseph p.martino

    DEAR MR.PAUL:
    TO EXPAND ON MY JULY 20,2009 MEDICAL REFORM SUGGESTIONS.
    AS STATED 11 NEWSPAPERS HAVE PUBLISHED MY MEDICAL REFORM
    PROPOSAL. MY NONE SOCIALIST SUGGESTION IN BRIEF:
    THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD PAY ALL COSTS OF A MEDICAL
    SCHOOL EDUCATION TO STUDENTS AT ANY STAGE OF MEDICAL SCHOOL.
    THE STUDENT/DOCTOR MUST STIPULATE AND WOULD BE OBLIGATED
    UPON GRADUATION TO TREAT AND CARE FOR MAYBE 10% OF POOR PATIENTS
    DEEMED ELIGIBLE BY GOVERNMENT PEER REVEIW.THE TIME,NUMBER
    OF PATIENTS AND PERCENT WOULD BE ESTABLISHED BY THE GOVERNING
    FEDERAL AGENCY.(THIS WOULD APPLY TO OFFICE VISITS ONLY)
    KEEP IN MIND: A ONE PERCENT SAVING TO MEDICARE FOR ONE YEAR
    OVER FIFTEEN YEARS SAVES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT/MEDICARE
    ONE TRILLION DOLLARS.WHENTHE NUMBER OF NEW DOCTORS INCREASE
    AND TREAT FOR FREE BY NOT BILLING MEDICARE THE TRILLIONS OF
    SAVINGS TO MEDICARE INCREASES ALSO.
    I HAVE MANY MORE SUGGESTIONS REGARDING MEDICAL REFORM
    THAT WOULD SAVE EVEN MORE TRILLIONS FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

    THE NEW DOCTOR WOULD NOT BILL MEDICARE

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    1. Christine

      Difficult to read when you use all caps. You can contact Dr. Paul at his website at http://www.campaignforliberty.com

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    2. gburg61

      more govt.waste joseph…will you jail the docs who do not live up? what about drop outs of med school? govt peer review??? you really are joking ??right?? how about this..all docs pay there own schooling and all patients pay there own treatment??OMG what a novel idea..being responsible just for yourself!!! with no crat to put a gun to your head and say “pay or be jailed”.
      by the way NO doctor I know would EVER tell a patient “get out” if you cannot pay ….the crisis is because govt. has removed competition in health care and handed out cards for free healthcare…this is the only reason the “crisis” exists. READ some more joe…napolitano…robert ringer…or even jefferson.

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  18. Uncleduke316

    The problem is that the politicians elected to represent us are taking our money to pay for health care for ILLEGALS!!!! If they can pay for penalty free insurance for Iraq they can do it for AMERICANS!!!!

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  19. joseph p.martino

    dear mr. paul:
    my suggestions on a none nationalized,none socialist medical proposal has
    been published in 11 major newspapers.
    my proposal will save the federal government trillions of dollars in the long term.
    see my news articles, google: (joseph p.martino medical reform)
    keep in mind that for every one percent of costs medicare saves
    per year over fifteen years comes to a saving on one trillion dollars.
    my plan saves the federal government much more.
    joseph p.martino millburn,nj

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  20. longshotlouie

    Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services and Bilderberg member in good standing, has announced yet another waste of taxpayer money. On the USGOVHHS YouTube channel, Sebelius “invites our talented and creative citizens to create and share your PSA about flu prevention and good health.” The videos, according to a blog post on the White House website, “can be funny, cute, dramatic, but most of all, they should help make a positive impact. HHS is organizing an expert panel to evaluate submissions and will present the best PSAs to the public so everyone can vote on their favorite submission. The winning PSA will receive $2,500 in cash and will appear on national television.”
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Flu-Prevention-PSA-Contest-HHS-Needs-You/

    Over at Flu.gov — an appropriately named website — we are told the videos should help “us protect our families and communities” and provide a “message of preventing or dealing with the flu.” In order to get PSA contestants in the proper mindset, the Flu.gov site has all kinds of materials, including a scary “Pandemic Influenza Storybook” covering the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic. Additional resources include a guide for influenza preparedness, response, and recovery, hotlines, community strategy plans, “workplace questions,” checklists, and other goodies provided at taxpayer expense.

    A sister site, PandemicFlu.gov, provides information on the HHS Pandemic Influenza Plan, “a blueprint for pandemic influenza preparation and response” that offers “guidance to national, state, and local policy makers and health departments” and “specifies needs and opportunities to build robust preparedness for and response to pandemic influenza.”

    HHS admits these plans are based on plans formulated in 2005.
    http://www.flu.gov/
    http://www.hhs.gov/pandemicflu/plan/

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  21. Eric

    Congress, the elite, has special “privileged” health benefits called the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program (FEHBP). I propose that an amendment be added to ANY govt managed health care plan that would dissolve the FEHBP and require that Congress submit to the bill’s requirements the same as any other American.
    When members of Congress have to pay and get in line like everyone else they will think twice about government run health care.
    So many times, govt passes laws prohibiting ordinary citizens from activity “X” while permitting it for the govt, or requiring ordinary citizens to do “Y” while exempting Senators and Representatives.
    I thought the whole premise of America was to get out from under the rule of royalty? that ALL men are created equal? I dont see where it says “all men are created equal except for Congress”. Do you?

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    1. Christine

      Didn’t Obama say that Americans would have the same health care plan as given to members of congress? I beleive that was one of his big pitches to the American people while on the campaign trail, not that he has lived up to any of his promises.

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      1. Uncleduke316

        Everyone remember that it was BUSH who moved heaven and earth to make sure that Iraq got free universal health care, footed by you, the american tax payer who will now have to be forced to pay for health care or be fined.
        It was Mitt Romney who screwed Mass up the ass and ruined the Mass economy and no matter what plan Obama signs it will do the same to us nationally and we’ll spend fifty years in recession.
        Why haven’t the people revolted? Why don’t we even get to VOTE on this???? Why do we have to give a DAMN about the health care of ILLEGALS??? Want to lower the cost of health care? here’s step one 1) start placing immigration agents at the doors of every emergency room and front door and card everyone who comes in.
        If they don’t have at least a green card send their ass back.
        2) LOWER COSTS by supporting health care with tax free municipal bonds and 1a) leagalzing and taxing marijuna, 1b) legalizing and taxing indoor prostitution 1c)get EVERYONE making under $50,0000 a year on MEDICAID.

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  22. Brent

    I can’t accept all your premises so I can’t argue with the points built over them. Let’s go over them individually.

    There are a lot of things I can only say on some news networks and not others. On Fox I could get away with actually bringing up that the problem of aids, for instance, is much worse in the homosexual community as opposed to what was predicted by said community in the eighties (remember it was supposed to be equal with heteros by the 90′s?) But if I bring it up many other places I am a homophobe. I don’t dare call up Mark Levin and argue in favor of left wing policies. This is a place I am safe to oppose something/anything Obama does. For a while there I’d get chewed out a lot of places. But I admit this argument is subjective.
    I do not accept that any healthcare system is effectively “geared toward” any particular goal because I do not accept that such gearing amounts to anything. The premise here is that centralization is virtuous over individualism and that people can be herded by a system like sheep towards desired goals. What I *do* see is that coercion and force are effective-for a while-and it will always be in whatever direction the profit motive is-health being relevant only when it results in profit or cost savings. I do not accept that government education significantly stops smoking, obesity, drug abuse, std’s, seat belt use etc. How do we actually *know* advances in these areas have been due to education rather than other factors? Like force of law. How long have people known smoking is bad? But the cost of cigarettes goes up so high and smoking is outlawed in so many places. Do the Japanese and Chinese not know smoking is bad? Or do the have lower cigarette costs, higher incomes in the smoking groups or less laws restricting smoking? How long have we known seatbelts save lives? Everyone knew it but when the laws got so tough that cops could just look at you and stop you then compliance really picked up. Aids got so bad that whoever was dumb enough to keep up with illicit sex was killed and the bodies piled up so high that people got alarmed. Not educated by schools-alarmed. So many people have been killed that even that type of person is being eliminated through natural selection. Or would you argue that we are living in times of less promiscuity due to education? And what of the war on drugs? Can you show a relationship between the massively higher education funding now days and any decreased expenses to society from drugs nowdays?

    Lets look at gambling. For years it was basically illegal because it was “bad for us”. when the government got involved (lottery) education changed dramatically. Now gambling is OK so long as the government is the house. Everyone knows that mainly the poor and low middle class buy the lottery but who cares, the state gets the money. I’ll tell you just what centralization and “education” is doing to us: it is conditioning the people to lose the ability to think for themselves. If even on a subliminal level the average person incorporates this in their thoughts and choices: “If it is illegal it is bad, if it is legal it is OK”. We have been conditioned to not think for ourselves and that mindset is reenforced by a society that sees those people who act foolishly constantly taken care of.

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  23. Brent

    Even though it is politically incorrect I will say it: I do not want to be held responsible for others’ poor health choices!!!

    Government healthcare is based on the premise that all people deserve healthcare with the implication that all deserve equal healthcare probably at equal cost. Those of us that choose to not smoke, avoid obesity, avoid drugs and excessive alcohol, abortion, std’s etc. will be lumped in with people who make these poor choices. The money will flow one way-from us to them. So now we have government trying to redistribute *health* as well as wealth. I guess if they could they would just take my carefully guarded good health outright and just give it to a fool; they can’t so nationalized healthcare is the next choice.
    I do not turn a deaf ear to those who have had bad luck and wish to help them on a voluntary basis. But how can a detached government sort between the two? This can only be done on an individual basis by people who actually know the people they claim to care about.

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    1. andy

      i think if you look at places like fox news or cnbc you’ll find that people on there do indeed talk about how they don’t want to be “responsible for others’ poor choices.”

      while that sentiment is legitimate to a certain extent, i think that the context of the health situation in the US makes that sentiment false.

      the reason is that our healthcare is geared not toward prevention, like in other countries, but for crisis management. you just have to look at our food system – it’s all junk food, and this junk food is basically created by the food industry b/c it’s much more profitable than selling vegetables, whole grains, and fruits.

      you look at other countries, their healthcare systems are “socialized” and they do have complaints about it. but if you ask a french or british or canadian or taiwanese if they’d like american-style healthcare, they’ll shudder and recoil in horror.

      so the question to ask is: if “socialized” medicine is so bad and inefficient and will lead to rationing and burdens hard-working folks with paying for others, why is it that it works so well for other countries?

      a change in our healthcare system will not only change the method of payment and distribution – the change will be systematic as well, involving paradigm shifts. for example, the government will probably invest more in education programs about things like the dangers of smoking and drinking (and remember, the campaign against smoking has been pretty successful if you look at our culture – smokers now talk about feeling persecuted when in the past it was non-smokers who were shunned). if we undertake similar campaigns on the dangers of soft drinks and fast food and high fructose corn syrup, for example, it’ll improve our health greatly.

      a public health plan will involve education and changing our health culture as well. if you look at attitudes toward food and health in other countries, their outlook is very different – thus we hear in the news about frenchmen holding protests outside of macdonalds. i think that’s going too far, but in europe people recognize when they see threats to their health and aren’t passive about it.

      again, all we have to do is do a cost-benefit analysis of our healthcare versus the healthcare of other comparable countries. i suggest you do that as well: just look at healthcare in germany, luxembourg, taiwan, japan, france, norway, sweden, denmark, britain, etc.

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      1. Christine

        I’m glad you mentioned how our health care system is not wired for prevention. Much of the “natural healing arts” (not much profit for government and lobbyists) have struggled as an option to pills and surgery (profits).

        The FDA allows foods with chemicals and makes it more difficult for organic foods to be grown and sold.

        An organic gardener referenced: They should call my carrots “carrots” and their carrots “chemical carrots”. Why do I have to go to all these measures and expense to have my carrots labeld “organic carrots”. They are just carrots.

        What we eat and our system of food is a large part of any wellness program.

        The government is interested in another revenue stream from the pockets of Americans to theirs so they can do what they will with the profits, the money we generate. Perhaps more crimes against the American people to further the new world order? more wars? We need to stop feeding the government.

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        1. andy

          i would reply by saying that i agree with most of what you say, except that i view government the way i view markets. government is simply a tool to get things done, just as the market is, and both have their advantages and shortcomings. i think that there are models of good government in other countries, notably the nordic countries of north europe and the south american countries (which, contrary to rantings in the corporate media here, are very democratic and basically use their tax dollars for the benefit of the voters – though one can legitimately ask whether the money is being used effectively, there is no question that the people in the region see their governments as vehicles for benefitting the population).

          we could formulate government policy to benefit the slow food and organic (or, now, i guess we would call it “beyond organic” since organic has been corporatized) movements and also use it as a vehicle to bringing positive change within our culture.

          after all, we did use government to bring about anti-smoking laws and so forth. those definitely had a benefit – though lowering smoking in the population is ultimately a task for people to change the general culture.

          i also think that real change comes when culture changes – for example, when we create a culture that hates violence and war and loves peace and also loves healthy, organic eating. but government can be a vehicle for bringing it about.

          again, i would strongly emphasize that it is simply a tool and not an end. i view government as a hammer, we could use it to hammer in nails to build a house or use it to attack our neighbor. but we cannot build a home with hammers alone, and we cannot bring about positive change with government alone. government will simply be one of many tools at our disposal

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          1. VR

            Government a tool, huh.
            You are correct. Government is a tool of the Bankstas and the World Governance agenda.

            It appears that you appreciate using the tool of government for social engineering. Lovers of liberty have no appreciation for this, at all.

            Government is, in the gardening sense, a weed/locust/varmint/drought. You can never totally get rid of it, but you must keep it at bay.

            Hope you create that culture that you dream.

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  24. Christine

    It’s not the cost of insurance that is the problem, it’s that they say we need it, when what we really need is health care that is so affordable that we don’t need insurance…no middleman.

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  25. Lawrence Beattie

    A non government health care system assumes a free enterprise system for health care. But the health care system is highly regulated, given government gants, tax breaks, and is highly lobbied. There is no real alternative medicine support by the government, but plenty of corporate (protect the industry) government support for the existing so called free enterprise system. The durgs invented, with tax payer – government gants in some cases, are paid for by high prices in the US, while the same drugs in other countries cost less.

    Uless health care is a truely free enterprise system, the cost will continue to raise and the demand for government run health care will continue.

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  26. Bottomline

    In 2004, a Nigerian pharmaceutical scientist and Dean of Ahmadu Bello University in Zaria, took samples of the a WHO oral polio vaccine to India for analysis. Evidence of serious vaccine contamination was found. Asked why the loving globalist organization would dispense contaminated vaccines, the scientist, Haruna Kaita, replied: “These manufacturers or promoters of these harmful things have a secret agenda which only further research can reveal. Secondly they have always taken us in the third world for granted, thinking we don’t have the capacity, knowledge and equipment to conduct tests that would reveal such contaminants. And very unfortunately they also have people to defend their atrocities within our midst, and worst still some of these are supposed to be our own professionals who we rely on to protect our interests.”

    Kaita demanded the manufacturers of the contaminated vaccine “be prosecuted like any other criminal.”

    It wasn’t the first time people in the third world were tricked into taking dangerous toxins, cancer viruses, and chemicals designed for sterilization of women. “Millions of female Mexicans, Nicaraguans and Filipinos were duped into taking tetanus vaccines, some of which were laced with a female hormone that could cause miscarriage and sterilization. In 1995 a Catholic organization called Human Life International accused the WHO of promoting this Canadian-made tetanus vaccine covertly laced with a pregnancy hormone called human choriogonadotropic hormone (HCG). Suspicions were aroused when the tetanus vaccine was prescribed in the peculiar dose of five multiple injections over a three month period, and recommended only to women of child-bearing age. When an unusual number of women experienced vaginal bleeding and miscarriages after the shots, a hormone additive was uncovered as the cause,” writes Alan Cantwell, M.D.

    “At the main hospital in Mbarara during that month of 1977 more than 600 children had died following polio vaccination. 600 children,” writes Ugandan Kihura Nkuba. “So even some of the timid medical practitioners who were initially afraid to come out, started coming out giving information and saying ‘Oh, we knew this oral polio vaccine was trouble because as soon as the child receives it, they get a temperature and their health goes downhill and there is nothing that you could do.’”

    On May 11, 1987, The London Times published “Smallpox vaccine triggered AIDS virus.” The article puts forward evidence linking the smallpox eradication vaccine program sponsored by the WHO and AIDS in Africa. Almost 100 million Africans living in central Africa were inoculated by the WHO. The vaccine was held responsible for awakening a “dormant” AIDS virus infection on the continent.

    In 1987, William Campbell Douglass, M.D., told a conference sponsored by the National Health Federation in Monrovia, California, that WHO was responsible for murdering countless Africans with the AIDS virus. In his 1989 book, AIDS: The End of Civilization, Douglass claims the WHO laced the African vaccines. He blames “the virologists of the world, the sorcerers who brought us this ghastly plague, and have formed a united front in denying that the virus was laboratory-made from known, lethal animal viruses.” According to Douglass, the vaccines were designed to attack the human immunological system.

    In Emerging Viruses: AIDS and Ebola, Harvard Public Health graduate and practicing dentist Dr. Leonard Horowitz documents beyond reasonable doubt that AIDS was manufactured in the laboratories of American universities and U.S. military biological warfare contractors during the 1960s and 70s disguised as the Special Virus Cancer Program of The National Institutes of Health and National Cancer Institute.

    Horowitz concludes that HIV was introduced to gay males in the U.S. and blacks in Africa simultaneously in the late 70s through experimental vaccine programs, specifically the hepatitis B vaccine developed by Merck, Sharpe, and Dohm Inc.

    But soft kill plagues are not limited to the third world — the west is now gearing up to vaccinate the public this autumn under the cover of the fake WHO declared H1N1 “pandemic.”

    As noted by crack investigative journalist Wayne Madsen and his sources – in particular a top scientist for the United Nations, who has examined the outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus in Africa, as well as HIV/AIDS victims – the H1N1 possesses certain transmission “vectors” that suggest the new flu strain was genetically-manufactured as a military biological warfare weapon. The UN expert believes that Ebola, HIV/AIDS, and the current A-H1N1 swine flu virus are biological warfare agents.

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  27. Christine

    I agree with your sentiments. I’ve thought of that too, about his mother. What would she think of him now?

    Like I’ve said before somewhere in this blog, I had State health insurance and I could not afford to use it. With living expenses rising on every human need, I could not afford to even pay what was left over after the health insurance paid.

    Just like any other service, what we need is lower drug, treatment and preventive medicine costs. We don’t need less expensive health insurance. What we need is for the expense of care to be affordable. We all have basic human needs and expenses, not talking about the extravagant, talking basic, and if it does not meet the needs of the least of us, then it is not good for any of us. To make it mandatory or a fine is imposed is not the cure to affordablity of health care.

    I they want everyone to pay, then everyone has to have the same level of income. We are all humans with a need for medical, dental, vision care, be it for a treatment or preventative, but someone has arbitrarily said that ie. an admin assistant is deserving of less income than those she assists. One income is less and yet both are expected to pay the same for care.

    It also seems odd to me that the government can afford to do so many things by the billions of $$ (our money) that Americans do not want, but when it comes down to something we need, they have to scrimp, shaft the people and fail the programs.

    The vote to pass the design of the bill was 10/13, 13 demos, 10 republican. In the house financial services committee we are looking at 41 demos, 29 republicans. Some demos will have to go against the party trend and the president to stop it from passing. If it passes, it will be another tax on the back of generations yet unborn and a program set up to fail just like medicare and medicade. That’s enough to make you sick right there.

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    1. Christine

      Send ‘em a letter or give them a call if you are so inclined.
      Each one has their own website listing their contact info.

      House Financial Serivices Committee Members
      http://www.house.gov/financialservices/members.html

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  28. Uncleduke316

    Bet you have a pre existing condition like I do. Supposedly we won’t be discriminated against but then again we weren’t supposed to see fines for not having it either. I don’t have car insurance I don’t drive, I don’t keep paying for car insurance!
    DAMN Hillary put the whammy on him!
    HOPEFULLY the cost of this will keep it from passing. All they have to do is look at Massachusetts to see that this isn’t going to do anything but profit the insurance companies who will be under no more obligation to look after us then they do now. I hope Obama’s mother comes back and smacks him upside the head!

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  29. Christine

    http://help.senate.gov/Maj_press/2009_07_15_b.pdf

    the design portion of the workup of the health care bill has passed, but it now must go to the financial committee for them to determine how much it will REALLY cost.

    Watched it on c-span. No mention in this document of the republican’s comments on the bill. Says bi-partisan bill, but really not. Republicans left out of the drawing up of the bill, had to add 160 amendments to make corrections to the original writing. Will not lower costs, more businesses will close because cannot afford the mandatory health costs for employees, you can keep your present insurance company, but many insurance companies will close (job losses), say the plan is in-solvent from the get-go and will fail, and more wrong with it.

    What happens in the instance that this government program fails after many are enrolled? If there are other insurance companies still in existence, and these other insurance companies maintain their “pre-existing condition” policy, then where does that leave the patient needing health insurance and/or care?

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  30. Uncleduke316

    It’s a damned sin this man isn’t president! He was my first choice and I voted for Obama because I genuinely believed he was the lesser evil. But this man is RIGHT! Making health insurance COST LESS has NEVER been an option because of the damn LOBBYISTS!! Hillary Clinton has been the TOP recipient of this industry. Harold Ickies is the number one HC lobbyist and he’s on her staff! HOW, after we had Obama tell us about his mother’s battles with insurance companies can he decide the way to pay for health insurance is to FORCE us to pay for it?How about we 1) start clearing illegal immigrants from emergency rooms 2) overturn bullshit lawsuits like the one the “wise latina” approved
    saying that woman who tried to kill herself and got only injured by the train deserved nine million dollars, 3) LEGALIZE and tax marijuana and prostitution.

    No one should be FORCED to pay for health care!!!!! Mass is in the whole because of this crap and it’s breaking people and families. The health insurance companies are laughing their ass off!! If this plan passes I will NOT vote for Obama. NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!

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  31. Christine

    Entire Document, Filing Charges (against whom and for what)
    Manufactured Pandemic – Mandatory Vaccinations for population control
    Could this be where our bailout money went?

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/16856224/Criminal-Charges-Swine-Flu-Edits-v2-1?autodown=pdf

    Because there is probable cause to believe that the Defendants are part of an international corporate criminal syndicate which has developed, produced, stockpiled and employed biological weapons (‘influenza’) to reduce the world population, and have committed the following offenses:

    Count One
    From in or about 2008 to the present, in the United States of America, and in other countries, including Austria, Switzerland and Mexico, Defendants did conspire with each other and with others to devise, fund and participate in the final phase of the implementation of a covert international bioweapons program involving, among other entities, the pharmaceutical companies Baxter and Novartis, causing death and disease to the people of the United States of America and other countries by first bioenginneering and, then releasing lethal biological agents, specifically, first, the so-called “bird flu” virus and, second, the “so-called” swine flu virus, in order to have a pretext to implement a forced mass vaccination program, which will be the means for the administration of a deadly bioweapon using the delivery system of an injection, causing widespread death and injury to the people of the United States of America in violation of the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989 (BWATA) passed into law in 1990, which extended the scope of bio-warfare materials regulation to include private individuals and non-state organizations, including corporations. According to § 175 (a) of BWATA, there is extraterritorial Federal jurisdiction over an offense under this section committed by or against a national of the United States.

    Count Two
    Beginning in or about 2008 to the present, in the United States of America, Defendants have implemented new and/or accelerated the implementation of laws and regulations designed to strip the citizens of the United States of their lawful Constitutional rights to refuse an injection by creating or allowing provisions to remain in place that criminalize the refusal to take an injection against pandemic viruses and by imposing other excessive and cruel penalties such as imprisonment and/or quarantine while barring the citizens of the United States from claiming compensation for injury or death from the above-mentioned forced injection, in violation of laws on federal corruption and the abuse of office and also of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    Count Three
    Beginning in or about 2008 to the present, the Defendants have been involved in the theft of at least 9 trillion dollars from the people of the United States under the pretext of a bank bailout, and have preplanned the mass murder of the victims of their theft by means of a forced vaccination, also by installing an extensive network of FEMA concentration camps and identifying mass graves in violation of laws on mass murder, federal corruption and Racketeering Influenced Organized Crime.

    Count Four
    Beginning in or about 2009, of the present, the Defendants have been involved in devising and implementing a scheme to hand power over the United States of America, using the swine flu or other pandemic as a pretext, to an international crime syndicate, informally called the “Illuminati”, that uses the United Nations and World Health Organization as a front for the above-mentioned organization, in violation of laws on Treason.

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    1. Jan

      Wow are you smart Christine…….keep the info coming….
      I wish you were President right now, by God. I like this site too, they are very informative about what the gov. is planning.
      Check these out!
      H1N1 Pandemic: Pentagon Planning Deployment of Troops in Support of Nationwide Vaccination
      Militarization of public health in the case of emergency is now official
      - by Michel Chossudovsky – 2009-07-31

      Britain: CCTV Surveillance into Thousands of British Homes
      - 2009-07-31

      America’s Expansive Bioweapons Industrial Complex
      - by Tom Burghardt – 2009-07-29

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      1. Christine

        Thanks for sharing! The links to your referenced article re: H1N1 preparedness for October, 2009 …soon!

        http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977758614

        If you feel called to help other Americans become aware…
        Make a website, a blog, compose mass emails to send out to family and friends with links referenced in this blog and in your personal research. I always add “Pass this along. Educate America!” at the bottom of my emails.

        Consider your efforts preventative medicine…best that this warning goes out virally before the H1N1 plans do and are orchestrated against the American people.

        We just went through a pandemic scare when Obama went to Mexico. News reported they were over-exaggerating, that not many were infected, not many deaths and usually the deaths were from other pre-existing illnesses. Because of this, it’s difficult to find a honest reason behind our government’s preparedness to the extreme measure of involving the military and making these vaccinations mandatory, especially when they admit the vacine has not been fully tested and it would only shorten the flu symptoms by a 1-1/2 days….other than for malicious and financially profitable reasons.

        From this video, I learned that the vaccine only has a shelf life of 3 years, so there would be a financial loss to the drug company and stock holders if not bought up now. Is Obama saving yet more coporations at our expense? I’m not willing to pay the price.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh1Y7MjuEEc&feature=channel

        I look forward to the seeing the effect of the Universal Law, God’s Law, the cleansing of the earth… those who are ill-intended towards other will get their just reward. They’ve already gone crazy mad. It’s safe to say they don’t know God. God is Love. God = Love. Such a difference. Their motivation is Money. Our motivation is Love, and with that, everything else is possible.

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      2. Christine

        The Homeland Terroists Preparedness Bill – HR 8791
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWlw3vo_ALA

        This is the bill that has me most concerned about our health and welfare. Alarming. At the end of it, “A new bill of rights will be drafted and approved.”

        Every American needs to know this is their intention. Those behind the scenes have a way of creating terror, anywhere. We know now that our government is successful at fooling a lot of Americans with the idea that our terrorists are from “over there”, instead of within our own government. 911

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  32. Christine

    It has been interesting to watch the health care team of politicians try to perfect a bill, the government’s offering of health care insurance. They have proven they are not good with anything financial, not to mention CARE. It’s not even their area of expertise — they are not actuaries or health care providers! This process they are going through has been telling.

    I’m so glad there are politicians who are bright and oppose the attempts they (mostly democrats) are making to put forth another government program in the same manner they did medicare and medicaid — programs that are doomed and insolvent from the get go. One republican pointed out that it is a “bate and switch plan” — to have an annual review of the plan’s solvency, increase premiums (most likely an increase) and adjust the items insurance would cover (most likely less coverage).

    If we are not lowering the actual cost of medicine, procedures, visits, etc., then there will be no lowering of “costs”, just more increases in insurance premiums for less coverage. It’s not the prevmiums of health insurance we want lowered so much as what drives the premiums up…the actually costs of care! It will do the same to a government run program. There are so many drug lobbyists in bed with politicians, the gov. couldn’t possibly have our best interests at heart. We could do without insurance if the health care was administered in an affordable way.

    We do not need to have health insurance associated with our jobs. We have car insurance don’t we? We pay a monthly premium just in case we get into an accident. No job or government involved! This way, if we lose or change jobs, the insurance is not interrupted. I’ve gone through layoffs and job changes and not skipped a car insurance payment, but my health insurance was gone when the job ended. Cobra is a joke, who can afford it. We have to think in new ways, challenge the way it has always been done, avoid going down the road the government wants us to go like sheeple. Right now it’s too corrupt to depend on for anything, especially our health, as long as the FED, CFR, Bilderberg Group (to name a few) are alive and well.

    Insurance…Another racket/scam on the American people who were hopeful that our government could finally step up to the plate and actually do something good for us, considering all the money they take out of our pockets! They have gotten so used to figuring out ways to “take” rather than “give”.

    It’s amazing how the government jumps to hand over billions of dollars (borrowed money, that we don’t even really have because the kids have not yet been born who will pay) to defunk companies, poorly ran companies, (all obligating future generations to a lifetime of more debt, lower standards of living) but they have such a hard time doing likewise to help the rest of the American population. …and the money is generated by us in the first place!

    Have you noticed that everything seems to be operating in the opposite direction? Everything logical is not the way it is. Why would we ever want to put our health in the hands of the government whose history has shown that they haven’t a clue on how to handle things financial !!

    The only truly prosperous folks are the American people, not the politicians. From the work of our own hands, we generate the money that pays for their salaries. Do they earn it? I wouldn’t hire an employee who repeatedly ignored what I wanted them to do. They’d be fired!

    I believe the government is only interested in gaining yet another income stream from the American people. When the goal is that, they are not sincerely interested in giving us anything worth our money to contribute to.

    Yet, if this government plan is accepted, there will be a gradual decline in competing insurance companies, even more job losses because they will not be able to stay in business. Then we really will have no other options, which is one of the “promises” of this plan…that we would be able to stay with the health insurance plan we already have. But see how “they” work?

    Obama answered a question in a townhall meeting saying we could not go to a single-payer system immediately because it would be too disruptive….but what he didn’t say is that it would eventually happen over time once the government’s health care plan was in effect(continual disruption over time with more job losses and failed competing businesses). The last thing we want to give the government is a monopoly and control over our health care!! That’s how they would work it to check another thing accomplished off their list for the NWO!!

    We need to constantly find ways we can maintain control over our lives. Do not give the responsibility of our own lives over to the government. Do all the things we know we should do to maintain good health. Practice preventative medicine, so we don’t or rarely need it! And don’t give any more of our money over to feed the NWO monster!

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  33. Chris Co

    First off I just want to say that R.P. is great. The only thing I disagree with is this

    “why should anyone be forced to pay for someone else’s medical care?”

    Are there not many fine institutions that we all pitch in for? Like libraries, police, what about fire departments? Why should I pay for someelses house to be put out?
    I believe health care should be a gov. and private industry(but regulated). Health Care shouldn’t be a business about money but about care.

    Anyways, the problem isn’t going to be an easy fix.

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    1. Jan

      How are Americans going to pay for healthcare, when they are not working??????????????????????????????????
      Do you Senators and Congressman pay for yours? If not maybe the thousands that work for governments would like to chip in $65/month from your big salaries, to pay for ours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Like the commentator said, I think business is down for the Pharmaceutical, Doctors, and bankrupt hospitals, and bankrupt patients….in this country and is this just another way for the American Citizens, in this country to “bail them out”!
      Many of us……have seen too many slip shod doctors and been in too many downsized staff run or profit hospitals that don’t give care anymore! And we do not like being on any toxic drugs for our symptoms….we want the FDA out of our lives and the doctors lives and we want our food and water safe.
      We want natural products and caring healthcare workers who understand the true chemistry of our bodies and are willing to treat us with natural substances in plants and herbs that don’t give us any side effects……..we’ve had enough of your toxic chemicals causing more diseases than we can handle and live………..
      Its all about money in my opinion not about our lives and health…….stop the medical bail outs and help us live not die from your crappy way to treat diseases……..yes we need hospitals for emergencies..for surgeries, for IV antibiotic therapy and for tests……lab or otherwise…….but your medicines are too toxic for us to take…..and they are designed to give us side effects and adverse reactions because they are “chemicals” made by man in a lab……….My body can’t utilize toxic chemicals to help make me be healthy again….get back to thinking about what humans’ are made of and how their bodies are to work naturally….take a biochemistry course once in your life and you’ll find out that we need supplementation to make things work normal in our bodies, we don’t need drugs to block the normal operations of our bodies…..e.g..lipotor, forsamax, coumadin/arsenic, ……..there has to be a balance in the use of medications in this country with natural products…..and doctors need the knowledge and to be able to practice without the FDA or FEDS jerking their licenses out from under them or the fear of it, when patients refuse their toxic drugs and want to use natural supplementation.
      ….We are not lab animals…to use, to”Practice your Medicines”..and most of us still have a brain and have studied more about ways to improve our health than any FDA jerk has…..cuz his goal is to give us toxic drugs and the pharmaceutical companies want to make money/lots of profit, on their toxic chemical distributions!
      Wake up America……..

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  34. Jan

    “We The People Stimulus Package”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA

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  35. Jan

    Please send this to your Senators……….

    I am a constituent, writing to you at the suggestion of the Natural Solutions
    Foundation to urge you to become a co-sponsor of the vitally important Health
    Freedom Protection Act of 2007, H. R. 2117. I want my Senators to
    introduce sister legislation to accomplish the same protections.

    My health freedom – and yours – are currently under significant attack by the
    out-of-control FDA. Their combined regulatory focus, on foods and on drugs,
    with their too close ties to pharmaceutical interests, create a distorted
    regulatory climate in which natural health options like dietary supplements
    and clean, unadulterated food, the major competitors to drug sales, are under
    significant regulatory attack. Natural health options are safe, effective and
    relatively inexpensive, virtues whose strength opens them to ferocious
    regulatory attack by an excessively pharma-friendly regulatory agency.
    Instead of seeking out ways to support health, the FDA is attacking it and
    those who make wellness options available.

    Consumers need protection from this continuing dollar-driven attack and
    Congress has to power to offer it through legislation like HR 2117.

    Consider: approved drugs, according to the Journal of the American Medical
    Association, are one of the leading causes of death in the United States WHEN
    USED PROPERLY. They are expensive and dangerous even when they do not result
    in death or serious complications. FDA needs to focus its efforts on these
    problems.

    Dietary Supplements, on the other hand, are safe, inexpensive, effective and
    save on medical personnel costs as well. The FDA routinely bars truthful,
    accurate and helpful health claims about dietary supplements even when backed
    by scientific evidence and, in fact, limits supplement claims to “normal
    structure/function” claims only. This restriction of sound, evidence-based
    information is detrimental not only to the health of consumers like me, but to
    our health freedom as well.

    H. R. 2117 is an extremely important bill because it shifts the burden of
    proof onto the FDA whenever the agency wants to deny the public the benefit of
    health claims information about Dietary Supplements. The public is protected
    from false or misleading claims because the bill provides that reasonable
    health claims, with proper disclosure language, shall be allowed “unless the
    there is no scientific evidence that supports the claim and the claim is
    inherently misleading.”

    H. R. 2177 is consistent with the law that already governs the agency’s
    position, announced in 2004, “FDA intends to apply a standard for
    substantiating claims for dietary supplements that is consistent with the
    Federal Trade Commission’s (FTC’s) standard for dietary supplements and other
    health related products of ‘competent and reliable scientific evidence’.”
    FDA’s restriction of true and accurate information as health claims is,
    however, not consistent with that policy. H.R. 2117 would remedy that
    discrepancy.

    H. R. 2117 would correct a serious deficit in the structure that supports
    consumer health education and health freedom because it would greatly enhance
    public access to truthful and not misleading health information in keeping
    with the US Supreme Court’s dictum in Thompson v. Western States Medical
    Centers. This seminal decision made it clear that the FDA did not have the
    right to restrict health information speech in ways parallel to its current
    gagging of truthful claims on safe dietary food supplements.

    H. R. 2117 presents a clear opportunity to you to enhance the legal
    protections for Dietary Supplements and natural remedies. Its adoption would
    shift FDA resources from over-regulation of safe food substances to what
    should properly be considered their main task, protecting people from
    dangerous drugs and medical devices.

    I urge you to join as a co-sponsor of the Health Freedom Protection Act, use
    your contacts to urge your colleagues to join you as well, and do everything
    in your power to make sure that the Health Freedom Protection Act, H. R. 2117,
    is passed by the House and the Senate. Hearings should be held this Fall.

    Thank you for safeguarding my health and health freedom. Please rest assured
    that your fellow constituents and I are watching this issue very closely and
    that we take your protection of our health freedom of paramount importance.
    for more…………….http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/

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