If you hit someone and kill their family, they will hate you and probably hit you back in the future.
That’s what blowback is all about. It seems like such a simple concept, but many of Ron Paul’s former opponents for the Presidency vehemently denied its validity.
They professed that what our military does abroad has no effect on how the citizens of the world feel towards us. Rudy Giuliani in particular believed that the 9/11 terrorists hated our wealth and freedom so intensely that they sacrificed their lives to prove it. (Of course, our government bombing their countries, propping up their dictators and supplying their enemies with money and weapons had nothing to do with it.)
Instead of securing our borders, we’ve been planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression. Within a few short years, we turned Iraq into the world’s leading breeding ground for terrorists. Our military is spread thin all across the planet, yet we remain involved in dangerous power plays that unnecessarily put the lives of our soldiers at risk. And we brazenly squandered the wealth of our nation as if there were no tomorrow.
It doesn’t make any sense unless you consider increasing the profits of the military-industrial complex to be in the “national interest”, no matter what the cost to the rest of us may be.
America first. That is what Ron Paul’s national defense proposal is all about. And with America he means all Americans, not just the elite. If elected President, Ron Paul will continue his efforts to secure our borders, hunt down the 9/11 terrorist planners (who are still at large), safely withdraw our troops from Iraq and other countries around the world, and finally overhaul the intelligence apparatus in cooperation with intelligence professionals rather than political opportunists.
Ron Paul loves America. He is one of the very few true patriots left in Washington who are actively working on protecting our freedoms, our lives and our dignity.
Join the Ron Paul Revolution and help us put our young men where they belong: back home so they can secure our borders and protect our nation.
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It is common knowledge that Roosevelt wanted the Japanese to strike the first blow. If they did not and we were the ones to attack how would that make us look? It is the same situation as with Abraham Lincoln and Fort Sumter. He could have his troops fire the first shot at the Confederates and by doing so the North would go down in history as the “bad guys” so to speak. Also if we surrendered the fort which was on “their land” we would be recognizing the Confederate States as a country and the rest of the world would likely follow. This left Lincoln with one obvious option. Stay and wait for the Confederates to make their move. If they didn’t fire upon the Union they would lose face and so they were forced to fire the first shots of the Civil War. Lincoln, rather brilliantly, forced the South to start the war and the Union looked no worse, or weaker for it.
I do not believe that Roosevelt was a very good president unlike most people. That is another debate for another time however. Still, he made the right decision in waiting for Japan to strike instead of ordering an immediate mass invasion of Japan.
As far as 9/11 being a government conspiracy, if you even consider that you are either ignorant, or ridiculously stupid. There isn’t even anything remotely close to hard evidence and it simply does not make sense.
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@ John
Yes, the US government (the power BEHIND the power actually), is most certainly willing to “…sacrifice innocent American lives for the sake of warfare”, because they profit from war.
Examples of this are numerous, when you take into consideration the fact that the majority of US servicemen and women are, in a sense, “innocent”, in that they generally have no idea exactly why they are serving/fighting and what they are serving/fighting for.
All of this is thanks to the “power BEHIND the power”. They control the mass media and our institutions. They buy our politicians. They set policy. They control minds. They do not allow dissent. If you challenge them, they will crush you – usually by refusing to acknowledge your existence.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWqD_VOympU&feature=player_embedded
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Apparently you have no understand of basic history.
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Lots of HAARP activity lately.
HAARP Induction Magnetometer, located in Alaska
http://maestro.haarp.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/scmag/disp-scmag.cgi?date=20100310&Bx=on
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
So many earthquakes in Chile.
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Christine-
I was hoping for factual evidence, not one youtube video after another. I guess the problem with the internet is essentially that there is no way to know one way or another if what you read is true. Right now the only fact I can establish is that it is possible that you love a good conspiracy theory, and you certainly like watching youtube. I apologize ahead of time for sounding so crass, I do not want to come off as offensive or condescending but I just am not swayed by general media. In my mind, a lot of the references sited are much like the people (Al Gore mainly) that do nothing more than stir emotion in people to gather a desired response…. For god’s sake, look at what “drowning” polar bears did for the Global Warming crowd. You’re against war, and I understand that more keenly than most because I am a soldier. Unfortunately, there is always need for an Army that can go to war.
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Why are you waiting for Christine to prove it to you?
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Shocking Speech to the United Nations (must watch)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S0AObjQfas&feature=related
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@ Christine
Can you prove any of your accusations? In particular, your assertion that 9/11 was someone within the government? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of either of the last two administrations, but to say that someone would sacrifice innocent American lives for the sake of warfare….thats just going a bit too far. Please, present what you say is true, or just do not make half-witted statements like that, it does nothing but stir negative emotions that solve nothing.
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It’s really best that you do some research on the web. It’s out there and there is so much in answer to your question. I couldn’t possibly share it all with you here. It’s not up to me to convince you, it’s up to you to discover (uncover) it. There have been many contributions by many people to get the truth out. Some have survived, some sadly have not. It all doesn’t fit in a neat little box. Since 9/11 there has been a steady drumbeat by the government about terrorist this and terrorist that. Steadily we have been losing freedoms, homes, jobs, America the Republic because of our govt using the tactic of “Problem, Reaction, Solution. They create the problem, we react, then come in with the fix (that we would never otherwise agree to, un-American solutions). Our country is changing little by little in this way, more rapid now than in the past. What could be more terrorizing than what the govt is doing to us, to our country, to other countries? Know that the media is well controlled by the elite, that it’s purpose is programming.
September Clues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqEpuTGc98s
Longshotlouie shared this one with us yesterday in another area at this site.
Mysterious Deaths of 911 Witnesses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU
Barry Jennings – Eyewitness Account
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=barry+jennings&search_type=&aq=f
Problem Reaction Solution (David Icke)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29C_KNZ7RNs
Zeitgeist – The Movie: World Trade Center (Part 1 of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI
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Reflections And Warnings – An Interview With Aaron Russo {Full Film} (about 1 hr 30 min. interview, knowledge in advance of 9/11, the wars, etc.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ
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…and where did Aaron Russo say we would go after Iraq, Afghanistan? Instead of bin laden, who would we be going after? what’s the plan, long in advance of anything happening that would be cause for a war?
Increased U.S. Military Presence in Colombia Could Pose Problems With Neighbors
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/world/americas/23colombia.html?_r=1
Watch, there will be a reason the govt will say that we need to have a war with Venezuela. I don’t know about you, but I’m sick of this way of living, of all these wars and destruction, senseless waste of lives.
We must choose peace, and give peace a chance. hmm…sounds like a song.
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Loose Change 911 An American Coup Part 1 of 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkPO6ksgyVM&feature=related
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@ Jason
I fail to see how something that would equate to a trade embargo could be used as a justification to attack another sovereign nation.
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The embargo may not have been the only cause, but it was the straw that broke the camel’s back, so to speak. Here is some evidence that the US not only knew about an upcoming attack, but may have wanted it.
“Prior to December 7, it was evident even to me… that we were pushing Japan into a corner. I believed that it was the desire of President Roosevelt, and Prime Minister Churchill that we get into the war, as they felt the Allies could not win without us and all our efforts to cause the Germans to declare war on us failed; the conditions we imposed upon Japan — to get out of China, for example — were so severe that we knew that nation could not accept them. We were forcing her so severely that we could have known that she would react toward the United States. All her preparations in a military way — and we knew their over-all import — pointed that way.” — Vice Admiral Frank E. Beatty (Aid to Frank Knox, the Secretary of the Navy)
Source: U. S. News and World Report, May 28, 1954, p. 48
Ten days prior to Pearl Harbor, the Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson wrote in his diary that he had met with President Roosevelt to discuss the evidence of impending hostilities with Japan, and the question was ‘how we should maneuver them [the Japanese] into the position of firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves.’
Source: Parallax Visions: Making Sense of American-East Asian Relations by Bruce Cumings.
“If by these means Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better. At all events we must be fully prepared to accept the threat of war.” – Lt. Commander A. H. McCollum from the office of naval intellegence in a memo to navy captains that lays out 8 ways of provoking Japan to attack (October 7th, 1940).
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@ Lib777
Point well taken….I’m not sure why swat was used in that situation, but I can think they certainly serve their purpose for other reasons. Memory calls forth the two nut-jobs in California that robbed a bank, then decided to start a war with L.A. Police….are you honestly going to tell me that you think the police were properly armed for that fight? SWAT certainly could have contained that situation much quicker than they LAPD (nothing against LA’s finest, they were out-gunned). I sense a tension on the site towards the US; why does the majority here feel the US is the big bad wolf everywhere it goes?
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@John on the The Posse Comitatus Act
the state governments have gotten around this restriction by militarising the police force.
Every major city (and even the non major ones) have a SWAT unit, which is used to serve warrants (oestensibly for ‘high risk’ warrants only, like Elias Gonzales a known high risk felon!)
http://reason.com/archives/2009/07/13/swat-gone-wild-in-maryland
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One thing I didn’t think to put in my last post……The last time we decided to stay neutral so everyone would like us, we lost right around 3,000 service members in a sneak-attack in the Pacific. Everyone remember that? Like it or not, in most cases you must choose a side.
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But even Pearl Harbor was not because we hadn’t chosen sides already. Before the attack, the US had stopped trading oil with Japan and almost forced Japan’s hand. Historians theorize that Roosevelt made efforts to provoke the Japanese to attack in order to give the US justification for entering the war. Really, it doesn’t make sense to say that Japan attacked because of our neutrality, in fact they attacked because we were not neutral.
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True. Historically America has provoked or set up wars that make us look innocent and responding to being attacked, when the truth is quite the opposite. There has been another group operating behind the scenes in secret, orchestrating all these events. It still goes on today, including 9/11.
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This all sounds quaint, but I think you are all missing something……
The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (today the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain “law and order” on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.
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Kucinich Announces Introduction of Privileged Resolution to End Afghan War
http://kucinich.us/
End War. Americans can get back to being ourselves once again instead of being run by greedy cartels and big corporations, along with the federal govt (a corp) and the FED (a corp), and a shadow govt that does not listen to the voice of the American people. Some of these live businesses are on our American soil, but they are not true Americans at heart. They are something else.
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A Petition Requesting the U.S. Congress to Stop Funding Additional Troops in Afghanistan.
http://kucinich.us/afghanistan/
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Ron paul is not anti semetic/israel he just wants neutrality. And why does europe or the usa needs an anti missle system when the iranian govt said they want israel wiped off the map. and the iranians like to tlk tough with there govt. but israel has already around 600 nukes. all they could do is to tell hizbullah or hamas to attack with katushas nd mortars. The war will never end so ron paul is right on neutrality and nonintervention. and if the radical muyslims ever do suicide bombings in the usa or large scale attacks we shoukld be ready. but we need to protect our power grids al of our infrastructure nd wht scares me if 2 chinese teens can hack into the us. homeland security syustem then we are really in deep trouble
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NEWS ALERT: U.S. Presidential Elections Invalid, Says Constitution.
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College…
A formal registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name ‘Barry Soetoro’ made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.
Details:
Name: Barry Soetoro
Religion: Islam
Nationality: Indonesian
How did this little INDONESIAN Muslim child – Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama) get around the issue of nationality to become President of the United States of America? The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid, and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document provides the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking — that he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the United States – necessary to be President of these United States. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya, here we see that there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship…
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records.
Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing; but that the final report will be provided to U.S. Attorney General, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter.
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EVERYTHING MENTIONED IS VERY TRUE ! BUT WE HAVE A HUGE PROBABLEM GETTING READY TO UNFOLD ! THE NATION OF ISLAM IS GETTING READY TO MARCH ON WASHINGTON ! THEIR PROCLAMATION IS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO ISLAMATIZE OUR DEMOCRACY !!!!! THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH US THAT WE CANT FIX OURSELVES ! WE DONT NEED THE VERY PEOPLE WE ARE FIGHTING AGAINST TAKEING OVER ! ITS BAD ENOUGH WE HAVE A MUSLIM IN OFFICE , WHO’S SYMPATHY LIES WITH THEIR DESIRE TO BRING US DOWN ! IT WILL BE A BIGGER ATTACK THAN 911 , AND AGAIN IT WILL COME FROME OUR OWN BACK YARD !! THANK YOU .
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it is not the Congressman Paul is against the US military in Iraq but that he believes if you are going to fight a war you need to declair war and being a memeber of the US military i believe the same way either declair war fight with all possible resources or dont do it
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Ron Paul lives in 18th century when it comes to national defense. He thinks that he can isolate America from the rest of the world. Sorry Ron, a nuclear missile from Iran will able reach NYC in less than an hour.
And Ron is mistake that the Muslims hate us because of our “colonialism”. He is not aware that Koran commands the Muslims to HATE Christians, Jews and Pagans.
That it is every Muslims duty to engage in jihad, a war in Allah’s way. That Jihad can fought with sward, pen, voice and money.
Muslims hate us, because we are in the way of their dream of world domination.
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I would disagree with your assertion that all Muslims hate us. Every religion has its fundamentalists, and most religions have a militant past, it is a fact of history. The issue that is of such a concern to us that Islam has not come to terms with its radicals, as oppossed to Christianity or Judaism, where there is a lot of self-policing. Islamist terrorism is a complicated and nuanced issue, and a cumbersome Western interference in their geopolitical situations is only going to provide them with a common enemy to fight. Considering Iran, only if they develop an ICBM with very advanced propulsion and guidance systems will they be able to hit Manhattan. The most they could do is to bomb Israel or our troops in the area, but let’s be reasonable, Ahmadinejad may be a radical, but he isn’t stupid. Iran would not try such a blatant act of agression when our military is on either side of their border, especially when such an act would rally the US’ Western allies. Finally, I think that we are developing a sufficient TMD system in Romania (among other places) in order to combat such a threat.
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You are right that every religion has it’s fundamentalists, and so does every ideology. However to say that “every religion is the same”, is like saying that “every ideology is the same”. Some ideologies, (including religious ones) not only have fundamentalists, but are themselves are fundamentalist.
Nazism as such is fundamentalist, and so is Islam.
Unlike Judaism and Hinduism, which are respectively Jewish and Indian national religion, Islam is universal and seeks to convert the whole world.
Unlike Christianity, Islam holy war, Jihad, the violent struggle in Allah’s way, the most noble of all religious duties. Unlike the Bible, Koran and Hadith, tells it’s followers that to FIGHT, LIE, DECEIVE, TORTURE, PLUNDER and even RAPE is “GOOD” if it is done for the sake of spreading the rule of Allah.
Also unlike the funder of Christianity, the founder of Islam himself was murdering, torturing, lying deceiving, raping and engaging is sexual intercourse with 9 years old child.
Like Jesus in Christianity, Muhammad in Islam, is considered perfect and is supposed to be imitated to the best of their followers’ ability.
Therefore unlike other religions, Islam as such is alway violent.
It is not an accident that out of some 56 Muslim majority country NOT ONE is truly democratic, not one has civil liberties, not a single one has decent living standards. And yes,, this includes even Turkey, Indonesia and Malaysia (even though some liars like to claim otherwise.)
Also it is an unfortunate mistake to think that Islamic violence is caused by our provocation, on the contrary, Islamic violence is inherent, Jihad is inherent in Islam, and the main reason we are seeing the increase these days is because Islam has become stronger through the infusion of $1 trillion of Western money into their hands (mostly through oil).
Islam has been at war with the West since it’s birth 1400 years ago.
Ron Paul does not know the history and theology of Islam. (I don’t blame him, but it is a fact.)
Finally destruction of Israel (the Little Satan) will affect America gravely. It will embolden the Muslims and encourage the next step, destruction of America (The Big Satan).
The attack on NYC does not happen through advanced rocket, it can happen by a boat with a nuclear load in N.Y.C. harbor. There are hundreds of other ways this can happen, too.
Ron Paul is anti-Israeli verging on antisemitic. Unfortunately he does not understand that Israel is just a canary in the coal mine. It is naive to say “who cares about the canary, let it die”.
Too bad that his views of international politics are so naive, because the guy’s understanding of economical needs of this country is correct.
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i believe all of us on this disscusion truely kno tht a nonintervention foreign policy by not getting involved with the worlds crap will look up to us in example. Thats how ron pauls foreign policy will extremely bennedit the world. I love all of his stances nd he is truely for the people. I think his policies in the mideast advocating neutrality nd adding fuel to the fire by extremely arming both sides. It will give more encintives like make peace now. I have many family memberss in israel nd they love ron paul cuz he speaks the truth.
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sorry i meant to say not adding fuel to the fire
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The U.S. has adopted Imperialism for its foreign policy ever since at least the Spanish American War. Lies, profits for the elite, and the desire for foreign intervention have brought us into every single war and conflict since then. Companies have made fortunes on the lives of American soldiers and the taxpayers money. We are misled into these wars whether it is investments being protected in foreign countries, private contractors providing services and products for a war, or protecting our “Allies” who don’t mind how many Americans die protecting them. The U.S. backs monsters in other nations (Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, etc..) then later claims we are forced to intervene.
We should lead by quiet example by showing peace and non interventionism.
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I think alot of people on this topic are not understanding Ron Paul the way I am. The way I understand him on this stance is that America needs to stop pushing our idealism on other cultures. These other cultures such as what the Middle East believes in is Ok as long as they are not causing problems for the rest of world. Their culture has believed in what they believe before Jesus came into being. Why are we trying to change them into our way of thinking. Let them live there lives and their culture as they may as long as they are not promoting violence. On that topic I do believe we are the cause of increasing terroism. Why do I think this? Because I believe those nations that think differently then us don’t want to be like us I think that when a country or a region is causing problems with the rest of the world we DO need to take military force to knock out the trouble makers pronto then move our troops back out, and not try to push our ways on them. If they are interested in our culture or form of government or whatever then they like what other nations have done can overthrow their government or oust out their dictator and form their own government. A perfect example is Chile.
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