National Defense
If you hit someone and kill their family, they will hate you and probably hit you back in the future.
That’s what blowback is all about. It seems like such a simple concept, but many of Ron Paul’s former opponents for the Presidency vehemently denied its validity.
They professed that what our military does abroad has no effect on how the citizens of the world feel towards us. Rudy Giuliani in particular believed that the 9/11 terrorists hated our wealth and freedom so intensely that they sacrificed their lives to prove it. (Of course, our government bombing their countries, propping up their dictators and supplying their enemies with money and weapons had nothing to do with it.)
Instead of securing our borders, we’ve been planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression. Within a few short years, we turned Iraq into the world’s leading breeding ground for terrorists. Our military is spread thin all across the planet, yet we remain involved in dangerous power plays that unnecessarily put the lives of our soldiers at risk. And we brazenly squandered the wealth of our nation as if there were no tomorrow.
It doesn’t make any sense unless you consider increasing the profits of the military-industrial complex to be in the “national interest”, no matter what the cost to the rest of us may be.
America first. That is what Ron Paul’s national defense proposal is all about. And with America he means all Americans, not just the elite. If elected President, Ron Paul will continue his efforts to secure our borders, hunt down the 9/11 terrorist planners (who are still at large), safely withdraw our troops from Iraq and other countries around the world, and finally overhaul the intelligence apparatus in cooperation with intelligence professionals rather than political opportunists.
Ron Paul loves America. He is one of the very few true patriots left in Washington who are actively working on protecting our freedoms, our lives and our dignity.
Join the Ron Paul Revolution and help us put our young men where they belong: back home so they can secure our borders and protect our nation.
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HOMELAND INSECURITY
‘Now we have proof’ jihadis infiltrating D.C.
Congress seizes on explosive new book based on daring undercover CAIR probe
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112751
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Posted: October 14, 2009
9:00 am Eastern
http://www.wnd.com/
A bundle of articles on this topic, first page, and associated links at the bottom of each article. Perhaps if they straighten this out, we might be back to being America.
I wonder why nobody really cares that scientists in France and Switzerland are about to retest a machine that could turn our planet into a black hole.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZAQn-KxW_k&feature=related
oct. 6 New antimatter atomsmashers ‘may destroy themselves’ and the world
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/06/antimatter_atomsmashers_will_blow_up/
Strictly speaking, the Constitution does not allow for certain things regarding the military. For example, we aren’t supposed to HAVE surplus taxes taken out for a navy except for during wartime. Obviously, such an oversight puts us at a serious disadvantage similar to situations during WWII. Today other countries have a much greater capacity to strike our shores than they did in 1941. That of course is the reason Jefferson recanted on one of his biggest positions in the struggle with the Barbary pirates.
Naturally, we have seen the need time and again to have a standing force capable of waging war at any given time. But we certainly should not be fighting proxy wars for untold reasons around the world at the expense of the American people. Such behavior only serves to further the system of false fiscal growth and increasingly alienates developing nations toward our country and subsequently our citizenry.
That stated, when a genuine threat is posed toward the American people from an outside force the Congress should do their job and wage a war so that the President can do his job and conduct it as a war should be conducted. We find ourselves bogged down everywhere with “nation building”, and “police actions” where we implement “security forces” in order to deal with malcontents on foreign soil. If we only sacrificed our young men and women during DECLARED wars it would be much easier to justify taking the gloves off and waging a total war because the consensus would be found in necessity. When a Constitutionally legal declaration of war is made there is no such thing as collateral damage because the entire nation bears the burden of guilt.
If the United States of America was to wage a REAL war there would be no 4, 5, 9 years of troop presence because we could eliminate the threats in a matter of weeks or months without concern for public perception. Similarly, were we to implement the full force of the U.S. military capability, few countries would pretend to be on the same playing field with us. The knowledge that we do not wish to fight but will wreak destruction upon an opponent’s entire nation would be sufficient enough to maintain peace with the vast majority of the planet. The few nations that could compete are sophisticated enough to maintain their own people generally speaking. China, Russia, Canada etc. would not condone people like Al Qaeda operating from safe havens within their society any more than we condone nutcases like Timothy McVeigh.
http://www.monetary.org
WHAT’S GONE WRONG?
Unheard of wealth concentrates into very few, largely undeserving hands. Americans work harder and produce more than ever but increasingly fall into debt and bankruptcy while corruption rules, and predators plunder society by merely shuffling papers. Less than 1% of the population now owns about 50% of the wealth, and receives 17% of the income! The Lost Science of Money shows how a false concept of money allowed it to happen, and tells how to reverse it.
SECRET POWER UNMASKED
Here are the keys that unlock the mystery of the money power – the hidden force secretly exercised by those holding society’s monetary reins.
The Lost Science of Money exposes the mythology created to protect those who are embezzling from society, under cover of a deceptive ideology of money. This group has immorally used economic theory as a tool of class war for the past three hundred years, while screaming accusations of “class warfare” against those who question their power!
The author provides the weapons needed to protect self, family, nation, and humanity from the predations of this gang, that has shrouded itself under cover of “econo-speak” for so long.
These ideas are presented accurately, but in “down-to-earth” language, without the confusing economic jargon that has usually served to obfuscate the subject. Historical cases with 119 illustrations help to convey the author’s unique message.
A GENERATION MISLED
The gates protecting America have been left undefended. September 11th demonstrated only one aspect of this problem. Our people have been under monetary attack from within and from abroad for most of our history, and the physical, financial and psychological damage has far exceeded the terrible losses at New York’s Twin Towers.
An entire generation has been led astray into market worship and other forms of religious fundamentalism.
A dysfunctional media focuses on the elections and sex habits of politicians while the real outcomes in society are determined behind the scenes by the structure of the nation’s money system.
This problem goes much deeper than accounting and stock fraud, and even beyond the graduate schools of business that have inculcated such criminal behavior. The deeper cause lies hidden in the structurally corrupt core of our monetary and banking system and our schools of economics. It arises from the falsehoods they have spread on the nature of money, allowing their patrons to control the money power, and in turn to dominate our society, deforming humanity in the process.
Those who really want to get to the bottom of the problem will find this book’s message timely and valuable. See the Table of Contents below.
Does Ron Paul intend to end funding to Israel?
Great question, bodiddly! Would like to know what Ron Paul’s answer is to this VERY important question.
Why don’t you answer this? What has Israel done for the US?
Generation Kill – Iraq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y_5vxM8PYM&feature=related
Is Obama a robot?
http://spiegelman.tumblr.com/post/196636529/ladies-and-gentlemen-your-president-is-a-robot
from Library of Congress
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c111:30:./temp/~c111DQzdHT::
Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that President Barack Obama should immediately work to reverse damaging and illegal actions taken by the Bush/Cheney Administration… (Introduced in House)
HRES 417 IH
111th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. RES. 417
Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that President Barack Obama should immediately work to reverse damaging and illegal actions taken by the Bush/Cheney Administration and collaborate with Congress to proactively prevent any further abuses of executive branch power.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
May 7, 2009
Ms. BALDWIN submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services, Foreign Affairs, and Select Intelligence (Permanent Select), for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned
RESOLUTION
Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that President Barack Obama should immediately work to reverse damaging and illegal actions taken by the Bush/Cheney Administration and collaborate with Congress to proactively prevent any further abuses of executive branch power.
Whereas over the past several years, serious questions have been raised about the conduct of high ranking Bush/Cheney Administration officials in relation to some of the most basic elements of our democracy: respect for the rule of law, the principle of checks and balances, and the fundamental freedoms enshrined in the Bill of Rights;
Whereas the Bush/Cheney Administration misled the American public and the U.S. Congress regarding the threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and alleged, despite all evidence to the contrary, a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda, and this deceit dragged our country into a preemptive and unjustified war that has taken the lives of more than 4,000 U.S. troops, injured 30,000 more, and will cost our Nation more than a trillion dollars;
Whereas the Bush/Cheney Administration undermined national security by manipulating and exaggerating evidence of Iran’s nuclear weapons capabilities despite no real evidence that Iran had the intention or capability of attacking the U.S., and then deliberately downplayed the December 2007 National Intelligence Estimate that reported with `high confidence’ that Iran stopped developing nuclear weapons in 2003 because of international pressure;
Whereas the Bush/Cheney Administration undertook a broad assault on civil liberties through the suspension of habeas corpus and claiming the power to declare any person an `enemy combatant,’ blatantly ignoring the Geneva Convention protections that the U.S. helped create, ratify, and which carry the weight of law;
Whereas the Bush/Cheney Administration endorsed the torture and rendition of prisoners in violation of stated American policy and values, as well as international law, and then destroyed videotapes which may have substantiated such torture;
Whereas the Bush/Cheney Administration violated the Fourth Amendment and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 by spying on Americans without a court order or oversight;
Whereas the Bush/Cheney Administration abused the state secrets privilege in recent legal challenges regarding warrantless wiretapping, torture, and rendition, and this administration’s use of the state secrets privilege was to the detriment of the rights of private litigants harmed by egregious misconduct, as well as Americans’ trust in the judicial system;
Whereas Bush/Cheney Administration officials consistently impeded congressional investigations into allegations of wrongdoing by refusing to comply with congressional subpoenas;
Whereas the Bush/Cheney Administration claims that then-senior presidential advisers were immune from congressional subpoenas impeded congressional oversight, undermined the rule of law, damaged our democracy, and were rejected by a U.S. District Court;
Whereas U.S. Attorneys pursued politically motivated prosecutions in violation of the law, and allegedly at the direction of the Bush/Cheney Administration;
Whereas Bush/Cheney Administration officials in the Department of Justice systematically violated the law and committed misconduct in basing hiring decisions for career prosecutor positions, detailees to senior Department offices, and immigration judgeships on the applicants’ political affiliations and view;
Whereas it appears Bush/Cheney Administration officials intentionally revealed the identity of Valerie Plame Wilson as a covert agent of the CIA for political retribution, and then intentionally obstructed justice by disseminating false information through the White House press office;
Whereas President Bush showed contempt for the legislative branch and disregard for the law through the excessive expansion of presidential power in misusing signing statements that declared his intent to ignore provisions of legislation he signed into law;
Whereas Bush/Cheney Administration officials systematically shielded from access and destroyed public documents relevant to the conduct of the Administration by utilizing non-governmental e-mail accounts for official communications;
Whereas Vice President Cheney consistently placed self-interest over serving the American people, exemplified by his claim that the Office of the Vice President is not an entity within the executive branch for the alleged purpose of shielding the activities of his office from public scrutiny;
Whereas President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and other Bush/Cheney Administration officials were presented with ample opportunities to collaborate with Congress and reverse the above listed damaging and abusive actions;
Whereas despite these opportunities, they instead chose to show contempt for the Constitution and the legislative branch, compelling Americans and Congress to look to the next administration for executive branch accountability;
Whereas, on November 4, 2008, Americans elected President of the United States Barack Obama;
Whereas, on January 20, 2009, President Obama stood before the American people and took an oath of office, swearing to `. . . preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States’;
Whereas this commitment and obligation is so fundamental to our democracy that our Nation’s founders proscribed this oath in our Constitution;
Whereas no President or Congress has the authority to override that document, whereby `We the People’ conferred upon the branches of government limited and defined power, and provided for meaningful checks and balances;
Whereas the actions taken by President Obama will impact the conduct of future Presidents, perhaps for generations;
Whereas President Obama has already begun work to reaffirm American values of justice and freedom;
Whereas President Obama issued a January 22, 2009, executive order requiring that Guantanamo Bay detention facility be closed within one year and that until its closure, conditions of confinement at Guantanamo must comply with Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions and all other applicable laws;
Whereas President Obama issued a January 22, 2009, executive order to promote the safe, lawful, and humane treatment of individuals in United States custody by prohibiting any interrogation technique or approach, or any treatment related to interrogation, that is not authorized by and listed in Army Field Manual, and reaffirms that all terrorist suspects held by the United States abroad are protected under Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions;
Whereas President Obama issued a January 22, 2009, executive order to establish a Special Task Force on Detainee Disposition to thoroughly review detention policy options and provide a report to the President within 6 months;
Whereas President Obama stated in his February 24, 2009, remarks to the Joint Session of Congress, `without exception or equivocation that the United States of America does not torture’;
Whereas President Obama issued a March 9, 2009, Memorandum for the Heads of Executive Departments and Agencies on Presidential Signing Statements to clarify his intention to issue signing statements `to address constitutional concerns only when it is appropriate to do so as a means of discharging my constitutional responsibilities’ and to outline steps to promote greater transparency and accountability in issuing signing statements;
Whereas President Obama’s efforts to renew America must include restoring executive branch accountability through proactively preventing future abuses of power by his or future administrations; and
Whereas the actions detailed below may assist in his work to restore the public’s faith in our Government: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that President Obama should take the necessary steps to do the following–
(1) AFFIRM OUR NATION’S COMMITMENT TO UPHOLDING THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES- President Obama must immediately and publicly reaffirm our Nation’s commitment to the rule of law, the principle of checks and balances, respect for the legislative process, and the fundamental freedoms enshrined in the Bill of Rights.
(2) FULLY INVESTIGATE BUSH/CHENEY ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS’ ALLEGED CRIMES AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANY ILLEGAL ACTS- President Obama must cooperate fully with congressional oversight efforts to establish an independent investigation, as well as to address potential statute of limitation concerns, in order to hold all Bush/Cheney Administration officials accountable for any crimes they may have committed.
(3) HOLD ACCOUNTABLE BUSH/CHENEY ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS WHO SHOWED OR SHOW CONTEMPT FOR THE LEGAL DUTY TO COMPLY WITH CONGRESSIONAL SUBPOENAS- President Obama must fully support Congress’ constitutionally rooted right of access to the information it needs to perform its legislative and oversight functions enunciated in Article I of the Constitution.
(4) HOLD ACCOUNTABLE BUSH/CHENEY ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS WHO DISCLOSED THE IDENTITY OF ANY COVERT INTELLIGENCE AGENT- President Obama must cooperate fully with congressional efforts to ensure that the disclosure of the identity of any United States intelligence agent could give rise to criminal liability.
(5) HOLD ACCOUNTABLE BUSH/CHENEY ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS WHO PURSUED POLITICALLY MOTIVATED PROSECUTIONS- President Obama must cooperate fully with congressional efforts to restore faith in the American justice system by investigating and censuring any officials who engage in misconduct in Federal office.
(6) ENSURE THAT ANY BUSH/CHENEY ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL GUILTY OF A WAR CRIME IS PROSECUTED UNDER THE WAR CRIMES ACT AND THE ANTI-TORTURE ACT- President Obama must cooperate fully with congressional efforts to repeal the redefinition of grave abuses of Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions included in the Military Commissions Act of 2006, which limits the scope of the original War Crimes Act and makes this repeal retroactively operable to the beginning of the invasion of Iraq. President Obama must also cooperate fully with congressional investigations into the lack of prosecutions under the War Crimes Act and the Federal Anti-Torture Act despite countless allegations of serious violations.
(7) AFFIRM THAT IT IS THE SOLE LEGAL RIGHT OF CONGRESS TO DECLARE WAR- President Obama must cooperate fully with congressional efforts to tighten the standards for when a declaration of war is required for military action.
(8) CRIMINALIZE LYING TO CONGRESS AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC ABOUT THE REASONS FOR GOING TO WAR- President Obama must cooperate fully with congressional efforts to strengthen Federal perjury laws to prohibit the issuance of false statements, concealment, or false documentation in any matter related to a presidential request for a declaration of war.
(9) RESTORE THE WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS AS AN ESSENTIAL PRINCIPLE OF OUR DEMOCRACY- President Obama must reaffirm our Nation’s treaty obligations under the Geneva Conventions and ensure all individuals held by the United States have access to the courts to petition for a writ of habeas corpus.
(10) ENSURE TORTURE IS UNIFORMLY PROHIBITED UNDER UNITED STATES LAW- While recognizing that President Obama has taken important steps in asserting his position that torture is antithetical to American values, he must cooperate fully with congressional efforts to codify strong anti-torture language and approve uniform standards for interrogation techniques applicable to individuals under control or custody of the United States Government.
(11) ENSURE RENDITION IS UNIFORMLY PROHIBITED UNDER UNITED STATES LAW- President Obama must cooperate fully with congressional efforts to outlaw torture `outsourcing’ by prohibiting the direct or indirect transfer or return of persons by the U.S. for the purpose of detention, interrogation, trial, or otherwise to a country listed by the Secretary of State as supporting torture, cruel, or degrading treatment used in detention or interrogation of individuals.
(12) RESPONSIBLY CLOSE THE GUANTANAMO BAY DETENTION CAMP- While President Obama has boldly declared his intention to close Guantanamo by January 2010, he must do everything in his power to ensure that all suspected terrorists held at Guantanamo are immediately tried in fair judicial proceedings and are not subjected to trial by secret evidence. He must also engage the international community to swiftly ensure the release of innocent detainees, including the Chinese Uighurs.
(13) ENSURE THAT AMERICANS CAN BRING CLAIMS AGAINST THEIR GOVERNMENT- President Obama must guarantee that the state secrets privilege shall not constitute grounds for dismissal of a case or claim and instead require independent judicial review of claims of state secrets privilege by executive branch officials.
(14) IMMEDIATELY TAKE AFFIRMATIVE STEPS TO PROTECT ALL BUSH/CHENEY ADMINISTRATION DOCUMENTS- President Obama must publicly reaffirm that the Office of the Vice President is part of the executive branch.
(15) PUBLICLY REVIEW POTENTIAL ABUSES OF THE PRESIDENTIAL PARDON PROCESS- President Obama must collaborate fully with Congress to investigate the granting of presidential pardons and articulate comprehensive standards to guide future presidential pardons.
(16) FURTHER REFORM THE USE OF PRESIDENTIAL SIGNING STATEMENTS- While President Obama has affirmed his intention to issue signing statements sparingly and with a high degree of transparency, he must commit to providing all signing statements for publication, affirm Congress’ right to participate in court proceedings regarding the constitutionality of any presidential signing statements, and ensure that Congress can obtain testimony from administration officials who may attempt to claim executive privilege to explain or justify any signing statements.
This last Sunday lunch time an item was reported on a “talking heads” News magazine programme called ‘The McCloughlin Report’ on PBS broadcasting and it showed President OBAMA proposing that the United Nations, form their own standing military Force, under direct Command and Control of the UN Security Council. If this were to be created, it would be the ideal asset to deploy on US soil, in order to do the bidding of the globalists, ie, remove weapons and intern law abiding American citizens. Many americans in Law enforcement and the military, are loyal to the US Constitution and would find it very hard performing tasks against fellow americans that were unconstitutional. A foreign soldier however, would have little knowledge of the US Constitution, or the 1st or second amendment and would act on orders of the command structure, without much thought.
Practice a Little Preventative Medicine …and Stop Our Government NOW.
I know many of us are justifiably complaining about issues with our government. Some of us are feeling there is little that we can do to actually see an immediate change, some relief from so much negativity coming at us at once. We’re enduring financial hardships, joblessness, and seeing our liberties being taken away by the passing of each new law, our personal wealth stolen and our kids in debt before they have even been born.
Well, I suggest to you now that each one of us has an opportunity right now, TODAY, to make a huge change in the course of history and help our nation avoid a lot more misery, pain and suffering.
No one here doubts that much of our government is secretive and working against us. We are angry about the shadow government, the elite bankers and those within the FED, with Goldman Sachs and major corporations who are surrounding us like an army, taking our wealth and taking our country down. We have felt helpless. This all goes against what America is to us in our hearts was at its inception. It is land of a free people, not an oppressed people.
http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=352%3Acomplaint-to-stop-enforced-vaccinations-in-washington-state&catid=1%3Alatest-news&lang=en
I would like you to take a look at a complaint being filed in Washington State. The print is tiny (CTRL+ will give you larger print). Be sure to read through it all the way to the end. You will get an education! If you have anger towards any of the elite and secret groups, NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEM ! YOUR COMPLAINT CAN CAUSE AN INVESTIGATION AND CRIMINAL CHARGES TO BE LEVELED AGAINST THOSE WHO HAVE HARMED US AND CONTINUE TO HARM US. They won’t stop themselves, so we have to. We call it then end of tyranny. Let’s get back to living fully in freedom. We need to eradicate them from our financial and governmental system! This complaint summarizes one of the largest crimes planned against Americans and other people around the world, ever! This is global. It will start in a couple of months, mid-October, so we haven’t much time to act. Point by point, you will see that this fall our government with several other organizations listed in the complaint have actually planned to harm us in ways we could never have ever imagine. Obama has appeared on television telling us how he has encouraged several countries to be prepared to also force vaccinate its citizens. As he puts it “they are responsibly prepared”. Nice sounding, but far from nice.
Names like Goldman Sachs, the elite bankers, criminal syndicate, the World Health Organization (WHO) and many others, several in Illinois, and drug executives who plan to make a lot of money from the sale of a vaccine for the H1N1 virus, but this vaccine is contaminated and lethal. A criminal indictment has firstly been filed against WHO and others by Jane Bergermeister.
Charges Filed Against Baxter and Avir
http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2009/04/
Help take down the criminals who have stolen so much from us already, and who now plan to systematically take our very lives, once again under the guise of helping us. No, they are not helping us, they are helping themselves to everything we own if we die from this vaccine! There is so much documentation. Get legal counsel if you need to. Talk it over with others, but please consider filing a complaint in your state. Who will stand up and put your anger to good use? As Ron Paul says, we need to convert that energy of anger into good use. Here’s your opportunity.
A Guide to Filing for an Injunction in a State
http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=351%3Aa-guide-to-filing-an-injunction-in-a-state&catid=1%3Alatest-news&lang=en
You can also visit my website at http://livingquests.com for links to more interviews with Jane, videos and info. It’s not a fancy website, but it will do for now.
I think this should stop the Socialized healthcare plan. Who would want a persident to design a health care plan who has these intentions!?
Vacinations are mandatory in the military. If they are given this deadly vaccination, it would take the lives of those who defend us and disable our military at home! The UN troops could then have their way with our country.
My confession of my national defense…………
The Illuminati Tsunami is fast approaching and nearly at our doorsteps, but I still stand on dry ground for which my Lord has parted the sea for me to walk in……….my eyes are on the sparrow and my heart is with the Spirit of the Lord!!!!!!!!!!!!!
forever Jan in Christ!
I strongly suggest that everyone get educated and pay attention to what is happening concerning the upcoming government-controlled, mass, forced flu vaccination plan. We only have a couple of months before we will be hit with something larger than any other issue. This is designed to change our country, the world as we know it.
Much has already been posted on the several “Health” sections of this forum. Please check out the information, especially more towards the bottom of the entries.
For anyone who is working towards preserving our liberty, freedom from tyranny…check out the agenda (there’s always an agenda) from the Swine Flu Conference held in Washington D.C., especially #2 & #6
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/32605.html
http://www.new-fields.com/ISFC/brochure.pdf
Jane Bergermeister has filed a criminal indictment against the World Health Organization (WHO) and Obama due to the evidence she has about contaminated flu vaccines being distributed for mass depopulation. Know her story, her case.
Important Websites to Keep Informed
http://birdflu666.wordpress.com
http://theflucase.com
[...] the night on youtube listening to Ron Paul speak. Video here. Ron Paul frequently speaks about blowback. He argues what the US military does abroad directly influences the opinion of America in those [...]
Absolutely the funniest joke ever……ON US !!!
* Let it sink in.
* Quietly we go like sheep to slaughter.
Does anybody out there have any memory of the reason given for the establishment of the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY ….. During the Carter Administration?
* Anybody?
* Anything?
* No?
* Didn’t think so!
Bottom line … We’ve spent several hundred billion dollars in support of an agency …the reason for which not one person who reads this can remember.
Ready???????
It was very simple ..
And at the time everybody thought it very appropriate…
The ‘Department of Energy’ was instituted on
8-04-1977
TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE
ON FOREIGN OIL.
Hey, pretty efficient, huh?????
AND NOW IT’S 2009,
32 YEARS LATER …
AND THE BUDGET FOR THIS
NECESSARY DEPARTMENT
IS AT
$24.2 BILLION A YEAR
IT HAS
* 16,000
* FEDERAL EMPLOYEES
* AND APPROXIMATELY
* 100,000
* CONTRACT EMPLOYEES
AND LOOK AT THE JOB IT HAS DONE!
THIS IS WHERE YOU
SLAP YOUR FOREHEAD AND SAY
‘WHAT WAS I THINKING?’
Ah, yes, good old bureaucracy…
And NOW _ we are going to turn the Banking System, Health Care & the Auto Industry over to government?
May G o d Help Us !!!
Keep this one going….
P.S….Nuclear waste is being put in all USA manufactured ammunition used in Iraq,Afganistan,and Gaza strip. It’s called DU/Depleted Uranium. USA has used 480 tons of it in Iraq alone. Equivalent to 4 Atomic bombs of radiation! That country is totally radioactive for billions of years…so they might as well fire all the Prime and Subcontractors to rebuild Iraq, plus it would save the taxpayer $860 billion of our money that they have used and wasted by paying 80% of the money to foreign workers, while we go jobless and pennyless. The Wartime commission is having hearings on the misuse and abuse of those dollars now on C-span. They should stop using our money to pay for foreigners to collect while we go jobless and pennyless. We need our own nation rebuilt and we need those jobs. They also need to Be prepared to treat all of our USA soldiers for cancers obtained from being exposed to that amount of radiation! If you want to know more from those in the know…go to YouTube and key in DU bombs……..Doctors and Scientist have the facts…….and will show you the birth defects that the Iraq children are being born with and also the people themselves are growing huge tumors on their bodies…….I just wonder if that is why so many of our soldiers are committing suicide? They know they are going to come back “radiated” and if they get their wives pregnant they may too be having children with birth defects……….The USA is going to need to take that $860 billion to treat us with it for the new Healthcare program they want us to fund now…..They get those regulators on their and they all play dumb and don’t know where the money went or why the projects aren’t finished yet…..
for more…….
Commission on Wartime Contracting
Commission on Wartime Contracting (CWC) – an independent, bipartisan legislative commission established to study wartime contracting in Iraq and …
http://www.wartimecontracting.gov/
ILLUMINATI PROJECT part 114
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=379UkSXmhUI&feature=related
How The Elite Control Politics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTahZE4q90U&feature=related
The Complete Idiot’s Guide to the New World Order
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRLPG_HplrA
The Deers Cry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMOVe3T7OoM
Christ In Me (The Deer’s Cry)
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4578.shtml
Obama: the “friendliest” fascism, and the most dangerous stealth messenger in history.
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4578.shtml
Six months since taking the reins, the Barack Obama administration has met its primary objective. It has swiftly ramped up the murderous imperial agenda inherited from Bush-Cheney while the masses, pacified and deceived by the appeal of the Obama image, pay no attention to realities.
No attention to the fact that the Obama administration’s global war strategy, which puts Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Latin America, and other regions into new military-intelligence crosshairs, promises the expansion of global instability, resource conquest, and “war on terrorism” ruin.
No attention to the fact the Obama administration is loaded with elites who are as dangerous and corrupt as those of the preceding administration.
No attention to the fact that nothing has “changed” except that there is a “rock star” figurehead sitting in the Oval Office who is smart and not stupid; calculating rather than blatant.
The destabilization of Iran, a product of massive US covert operations (and overt political manipulation) continues unabated, built upon the pretext of “restoring democracy”—a “stolen election” hoax, and an aggressive “color revolution” spearheaded by Anglo-American surrogates, aspiring puppets, and hordes of intelligence assets and so-called “liberals” touting “democracy”. The Iranian corridor remains critical, for the control of Central Asian and Middle East energy, and the Anglo-American empire is intent upon controlling it.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14604
They’re Yelling in Setauket !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOLs7Cybnqw
How to create an Angry American
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgfzqulvhlQ&NR=1
The end of the video needs to be updated to include the new administration, including the FED….cuz the beat goes on until…
Got news for ‘em…the American people are not laughing.
Bin Laden worked for US until 9/11
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7253
http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2009/07/sibel-edmonds-on-mike-malloy.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59wY_O18TFI&feature=related
Frost over the World – Benazir Bhutto – 02 Nov 07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ&feature=fvw
…and she knew too much and was outspoken so, perhaps devulging something Bush did not want everyone to know so the wars could continue…warning, a little graphic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wluVIrR-jw4
..and Pres O says “…whether he is technically alive or not”. to avoid telling us the truth and so he can continue the wars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmvexs6q42A&NR=1
Al Qaeda Doesn’t Exist (Documentary) – 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek7ZHenQnu4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnV_pNe_BB0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZtbYnslB0o&feature=related
Recently I heard these videos of truth…
The Best Testimony of The 21st Century
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0GQUtYkxfY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lINNad6Njs&feature=related
I suspect the FED, elite behind the scenes, has a lot to do with all of these wars over many, many years. The corruption is not only ill-affecting us, but the rest of the world, and us with the rest of the world.
The Matrix…
Wake Up Call – New World Order Documentary – Remastered – 1 of 16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX_qOaZmCFM
A new bill suddenly appears: HR 2749
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGZL6q-3LOw
HR 2749 is a strange bill in many ways. While the other “food safety” bills have been around since winter, allowing for much public discussion on the internet, HR 2749 has only suddenly appeared. It is a mutant conglomeration of the worst of the other bills, with the addition of one very original part – martial law.
When it was a draft, it was Waxman’s bill. But once given a number, it became Dingel’s who already had a “food safety” bill, HR 759. So Waxman got none and Dingel got two. (Was this because Waxman, being Jewish, was a hideous choice to introduce a bill with Codex in it – designed by the Nazi pharmaceutical companies that funded Hitler, provided the gas for the gas chambers, experimented on prisoners with vaccines – and is expected to kill millions?)
Get on the horn. Make some noise.
Hr 2749 is headed to the floor of the house with only 5 co-sponsors !!
HR 2749 passes in the house.
Goes to the senate after the August recess.
This bill is the final nail in the coffin for small farms and gardens. You have a few weeks to do your research and get the word out.
This effects every man, woman, and child, in this country.
HR 2749 Food Safety Enhancement Act of 2009
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2749
Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund
http://www.farmtoconsumer.org/news/news-15june2009.htm
Talking Points, Alarming Provisions
http://www.ftcldf.org/docs/hr2749_talkingpoints.html
For Farmers and Consumers Defending the Right to Buy and Protecting the Right to Sell Nutritious Food directly from the Farm.
“The Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund is opposed to HR 2749 because it would adversely impact small farms and food producers, without providing significant reforms in the industrial food system. HR 2749 does not address the underlying causes of food safety problems, including industrial agriculture practices and the consolidationof our food supply.”
“…Amish and Mennonite food producers having to register would thus be faced with a choice of violating either their religious faith or the law, while other food producers could face added expense and problems if they do not have the necessary technology. Failure to property register would constitute misbranding and would be a violation of the law.”
HELP !!
Terrorists Are Everywhere !!
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j0iDP29v8HayIawDmx2FGNbla3Jw
When the dollar and the economy collapse, how does America pay for their military, for defense…or do we become defenseless?
The dollar is not going to collapse. That is just scare tactics. The dollar will collapse when we say it will, or when we stop believing in the system.
The government can always give “promisary” notes. The dollar is as good as the promise.
Those in charge of our financial system, the government and the FED, are employing tactics of manipulation that lead to the opposite of a stable economy. Many more by the day are not trusting either our government or the FED. Many see the destructive force of the colusion between the FED and our congress, and other nations to work out a different agenda than the one our constitution declares.
Peter Schiff – Empire Collapse & Emergence of Asia 1 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FvwxXfc7s0&feature=related
If an economist can see in 2002 that we were heading towards a recession, housing bubble, the economic destruction from not allowing the free market to do what it does natually to maintain stability, when others were in denile saying naahhhh, won’t happen here…then we need to listen up and prepare.
What will a promissary note buy you when your family is hungry and needs shelter or has to pay a mandatory health care premium or be fined?
The Chinese will stop ‘believing’ before us, then it will not matter what we ‘believe’.
They are being paid adequately. As long as we continue to pay them back then they will have trust in our system. We are strengthening our relationship with china, so it going in the opposite direction as you are pointing out.
When Hillary and Timmy reached an agreement with China that China will start buying some of its own crap, there’s a reason for that…America and Americans are broke. It’s really not much of an “agreement”, it’s more of an “understanding” that this is the way it is….because its a bankrupt America, a natural consequence to what the FED is doing to our monetary system, to what Wall Street has done to Main Street.
Now, on the other side of the “agreement” or “understanding” is that China will start receiving imports/goods from America? Hmm…now WHAT will we import to China? That’s a real head scratcher, itn’t it?
And we will impose tarrifs on China’s imports. The money we will receive, the tarrifs, will go to pay off the debt to China that is impossible to repay? I see, just a bit of bookkeeping. Lower the debt, create inflation, maybe hyperinflation, so our dollar pays off less and less of the debt… This must drive “the bookkeeper” absolutely nuts!
Their meeting must have been very similar to a poor married couple trying to negotiate out their mortgage loan with their lender. America has the same symptoms as someone who faces foreclosure.
1. High and increasing debt
2. Job Losses, can’t work to generate income
3. Health Care Issues
4. Divorce (Revolution or Socialism and a departure from the founding documents)
1. We are broke because of our TRADE DEFICIT. This is because of government policy, not the fed. The fed doesn’t spend money overseas, we do.
2. We will not impose tariffs on Chinese goods, although I would like to see that. They have stressed that many times.
3. High increasing debt comes from a loss of savings from goods we import.
Any step we make to live within our means is a step in the right direction.
…and the occassional, massive heists? Where do they fit into our “wealth plan”?
“The fed doesn’t spend money overseas, we do.”
Interesting. You have info on who gets money from the FED. Did you already perform the audit?
The FED gives money to Austrailia. Who else, Sean?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0NYBTkE1yQ
We are broke as a nation because individually, our wealth is periodically and systematically stollen from us by our own government in a variety of ways and spent by gamblers, scammers, criminals and warmongers.
That is not why we are broke. That was just recently, if you actually pay attention to that video you posted, you will learn that this is something new.
We will actually make money off lending it to Australia.. Your thinking is backwards.
So too would Americans make money from receiving loans from the FED, except in 2007 when they lent the money to Australia, our financial corporations were quite busy and in the midst of a grand heist of their own, one that froze lending and created distrust in our financial institutions.
The FED is not dedicated to America.
I worked for the small business development center and businesses were folding, the state run community college had a massive layoff. I worked in real estate and buyers disappeared and mortgage companies folded, layoffs.
We are taxed unto death, literally, periodically and systematically. Taxation has been going on for a very long time, 1913-14. The government is diversifying and adding a new revenue streams, insurance premiums and fines! Oh, and inflation, the “unseen” taxation technique.
Our government is not dedicated to serving us.
Even though the government is heavily reliant upon our innovation, our paycheck deductions, our money, they do as they will. We need to stop feeding the corrupted.
Again I say, We are broke as a nation because individually, our wealth is periodically and systematically stollen from us by our own government in a variety of ways and spent by gamblers, scammers, criminals and warmongers.
i totally agree with with you. I think taxes are stupid.
I was just pointing out the fact that countries with long run trade deficits have a low savings rate.
The trade deficit is a part of our economic crisis, but it does not explain or point to the cause for the all of it. We are broke and cannot buy China’s craps, so that was an easy “agreement” to make.
Made in America. Buy American. Primarily.
We can have friendly trade with other countries, but we slip into co-dependency upon them if we do not produce, buy ‘n sell our own stuff.
We need some of that money the FED lent to Australia so small businesses can start up here in America and thrive. And what we need most is for our damn government to get out of our way and stop thinking they are self-important! It’s pretty hard to run two agendas. One is unnecessary (NWO). Our founding documents worked just fine.
They do help.
THEy WHo ?
Idiotus Maximus, Joe Biden
MOSCOW — An interview U.S. Vice President Joe Biden gave to an American newspaper was front-page news Monday in Moscow, where his characterization of Russia as a weakened nation hit a raw nerve.
Biden said Russia’s economic difficulties are likely to make the Kremlin more willing to cooperate with the United States on a range of national security issues.
“I think we vastly underestimate the hand that we hold,” he said in an interview to The Wall Street Journal published Saturday.
Joe doesn’t even realize that it is the back of his cards that are reflecting in his own eyes.
Don’t send a boy to do a man’s job.
A new report out of left leaning globalist think tank the Brookings Institute confirms an agenda to re-brand the long running effort to merge the US, Canada and Mexico into a Federal superstate akin to the European Union.
In the Brookings Institute report, titled “Toward a New Frontier: Improving the U.S.-Canadian Border”, Christopher Sands, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, where he specializes on North American economic integration, suggests the Obama administration should continue the agenda of the SPP, but under a new name.
“Despite evidence that NAFTA has been beneficial on balance to American business, workers, and consumers the argument remains vilified by many as an unwarranted move to embrace globalization.” Sands writes.
“President Obama recognized this on the campaign trail in 2008, when he called for the renegotiation of NAFTA’s provisions to correct flaws in the original agreement. As a result, the Obama administration will most likely rename the SPP.” Sands concludes.
The report also suggests focusing more on the integration of the US and Canada as a priority, before bringing Mexico into the equation.
http://www.brookings.edu/reports/2009/0713_canada_sands.aspx
FOR
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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104618
Check out #6
Love that Molotov Mitchell
On this week’s 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, President Obama praised the pioneering American astronauts and recalled his own childhood memories in Hawaii of NASA capsules splashing down in the Pacific.
oops
Houston, we have a problem.
The president actually lived in Indonesia in 1969.
Where was his teleprompter anyway?
Casual Friday Humor Break
Jean-Marie Bigard
The audience starts there laughter immediately with the words ‘Mr. Silverstein’ because the subject is well known among Europeans.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9y72e_bigard-11-septembre-monsieur-silver_fun
Probably canned laughter, but still funny stuff.
the magical passports
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DlmATwYY48
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4580078919009360294&hl=en
Obama Campaign Promise – October 27, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr9ywEFRQkQ&feature=related
Speaking of…this video really bothered me, the emotion of the reader and what is said towards the end of it… “a new bill of rights shall be drafted and approved by ‘classified’”..that this is in their plans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWlw3vo_ALA&feature=related
Is a particular special event planned that will be hosted by our government and perpetrated upon the American people?
Has our government pursued horrible acts of violence and theft towards other countries that they fully expect a return attack upon our soil?
When this bill was discussed in the house and senate, I wonder what was said during the debates. Do our politicians get to know what is “classified” before they pass the bill?
Homeland Terrorists Preparedness Act HR 8791
21st Century Traitors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjKF5i7Kyb8&feature=player_embedded
We best get to know our bill of rights, declaration of independence and U.S. constitution… forwards and backwards.
False Flags & Nuclear or Biological Weapons Will It Be Iran or North Korea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTe3MmwD2g
Listen for the lies, they are already starting.
Whatever our government says another country is doing, we need to first check our government to see what it is doing to us.
The Best Testimony of The 21st Century
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0GQUtYkxfY&feature=related
How to Create an Angry American
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgfzqulvhlQ&NR=1
This is a war against the American people, by lies and deceipt that we don’t find funny, our own government against us and the rest of the world continues. It’s a war against world peace, our freedom, our liberties and the pursuit of happiness for all people.
Those guilty of treasonist crimes should be tried and put in jail.
They have used the lives of Americans to perpetrate crimes against the world and our own nation’s sovereignty and solvency.
National Defence of a different kind…
Why Resistance is Essential
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Yc8-6yjAA&feature=related
You may recall that a federal court gave Saudi Arabian royals sued by the families of the 9/11 victims immunity from being sued. Not because there wasn’t any evidence of Saudi complicity in 9/11, but because it would interfere with relations with Saudi Arabia.
Now, a U.S. court is shutting down the attempt by airlines – hardly your tinfoil hat types – to prove that the government’s actions were so egregious with regard to 9/11 that they override any mistakes the airline may have made.
Judge Denies Bid By Airlines To Question FBI In 9/11 Case
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/BT-CO-20090716-714898-kIyVDAtMEM5TzEtNjIxMDYwWj.html
“Thank you very much, Richard, and I am delighted to be here in these new headquarters. I have been often to, I guess, the mother ship in New York City, but it’s good to have an outpost of the Council right here down the street from the State Department. We get a lot of advice from the Council, so this will mean I won’t have as far to go to be told what we should be doing and how we should think about the future.”
Foreign Policy Address at the Council on Foreign Relations
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of State
Washington, DC
July 15, 2009
Ex-FBI Agent: Why I Support a New 9/11 Investigation
http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/07/ex-fbi-agent-why-i-support-a-new-911-investigation/
“The open veins of Latina Amrica”, by Eduardo Galeano. This book, together with Mr. Ron Paul agenda refering to National Defense, Health and many others issues, make assure to myself and the rest of the people on my comunity,that he is the only choice not only for America but the rest of the world. From now on, I will commit to his cause and pass it along to everyone I can reach. This work start for me TODAY. For the future of this great nation, my familie and the rest of the world. Count on me Mr. Paul!!
Pistol! You are apparently delusional. LMAO You must have watched too too many episodes of fantasy island.
So what makes me delusional? A difference of opinion, an unorthodox view that doesnt fit with ur precious corporate media propaganda!! now ur really showing ur intelligence…
There is an old saying that says, sometimes silence is the best answer… Well silence is falling on deaf ears in this case…
Greg, sometimes its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open ur mouth and remove all doubt…
Some people choose to spend their time researching all information from a non-bias perspective.. Others just devour the fabricated BS they read in papers and see on commercial television, expecting goverment and big industry to tell the truth.. Your living proof that flouride in water lowers IQ’s.. Get a grip of yourselves and wake up…
So lets waste more time criticising each other over differing opionions and forget about whats really going on…
Where was I when 911 was happening?.. Why, warm in my bed, along with the rest of the terrorists of course… Anyone who thinks terrorists or the non-existent Al Qaeda organization had or has anything to do with attacks on Western countries has, in my opinion, absolutely no idea whatsoever about any real current events.. Because if you believe the whole 911 terrorist story, although entertaining, then you would believe just about anything..
Next you will try convincing a blind man that vision is over-rated… Or that NASA hasnt been back to the lunar surface in 40 yrs because it was too boring and not because they found what they were looking for the first time…
Why dont u go pack ur bags, pick up a rifle and invade some country, kill its innocent civilians, then sing ur own praises for doing it so well… Then turn to ur comrades and ask them if they know why ur even there….
Seriously people, stop drinking tap water, its completely destroying any chance you have a producing an intelligent argument…
So.. while I am watching re-runs of fantasy island, and contemplating if the masses are ever going to awaken from their slumber, I suggest that you close your eyes a bit tighter since there closed anyway, and reach out in front of you and grab that curtain thats been pulled over your eyes before its too late… Although, for most, that time has been and gone…
A wise man once said, Some have it, Some dont, and some will never know what it is……
Which category do you fit in…
Blind, submissive, docile, subservient slave….
or Independant, open-minded, original thinking, free man……
Hmmmmm, maybe some dont have a choice after being beaten into submission and made comply.. How dare you speak out or question the status quo.. get back in line and obey…… yes mum…
Please forgive the sarcasm, I dont intend to portray malicious behaviour,, just trying to make point…
All the best
Peace I AM
P
There is no enemy. We dont need a military.. The money that is spent on military activities could feed the world. All religion is false but people have the right to choose their own beliefs, not have them forced upon them or killed for not assimilating.
When u understand the true nature of the universe, it is ludicrous to suggest that we are the only intelligent life in the universe or galaxy for that matter. If and when (if not already), an intelligent race of beings visited earth do u honestly believe they would be Christians, or Muslims?? I suspect that the concept of ownership or exclusivity over God would be quite absurd to an evolved society..
At some point there comes a time when we must realize that there is an ultimate truth governing the universe. Putting our faith in books written thousands of years ago is a bad joke. To think that God stopped communicating through and to human beings all those years ago is another bad joke… God cannot and has not ever stopped communicating to us and through us… It simply cannot as it is not separate and is one of the same. We are God, there is no separation. God didnt stop talking, we stopped listening..
Anyone that has any doubts about the infinite Oneness of the universe and the absurdity of religion has completely forgotten their intrinsic inner connection to the divine source that permeates, penetrates and fills the interspaces of the universe, (yes, us too). The truth that has been hidden is related to the Pineal Gland (3rd eye) in the centre of our brains. Research this endocrine gland and u will surely uncover the most amazing truths about how we connect to source. This is a topic not suited to the existing discussion, and is quite detailed and lengthy, however it is partially related.
If people knew the truth about this gland and managed to have a guided DMT experience, they would put down their guns, bibles, stones, prejudices, racism etc and say yes to all life, including the parts that dont align with our own views. After all, people die in the name of religion, people kill in the name of religion, wars are fought in the name of religion and our legal system is based on Religious teachings.
So even if ur not religious, you are faced with it constantly. We even swear on a bible in court… Who are we kidding here. How is a book supposed to make people tell the truth?… Oh thats right, threaten them with eternal damnation for lying on a book of god, and let them burn for it…. ha haha… yeah right.. Something smells fishy about that.. Hell – hot… i dont think so… God – light -warmth… thats better.. If hell did exist it would be void of all warmth and therefor must be very cold..
But there isnt a hell and if there was then it must be God too as it is all the one life. No separation… We are never apart from God as we are a part of God.. So whats he/she/it to do… cut off its own nose to spite its face. doesnt make much sense to me… i certainly wouldnt punish myself for making a free choice..
Anyway… if anyone reading this has family or friends in the armed forces, get them out asap… There is no threat.. It is all another part of a massive lie….
Say NO to military funding and war.
Thanks
Peace I AM
I agree with Greg. You must be living your own sense of reality. Were you alive during 911? Have you considered the countless attempts of attack from countries all over the world who would love to wipe us off the map? Have you even paid attention to the news relating to foreign relations in the past decade? We have dangerous, ruthless enemies.. and our military has kept that war from escalating to events like 911 within our own country.
yepper, Pistol does seem to have gone over the pacifist edge, but don’t we cultivate enemies?
I bet sometime in the near future we will discover that the FED, this small group of elite bankers and their network, has funded many wars, both or all sides, has pitted one nation against another, strategically, playing a sadistic game with human lives over planet earth.
They use a tool, a weapon in their case. It’s called money. It’s working.
Several jerks here in our financial institutions created financial failures globally. They probably consider this an intentional success, a controlled demolition of our economy. Since it originated here in the US, no doubt there are ill feelings towards America, thus Homeland Terrorism Preparedness, except the real terrorists instigating the trouble are elite bankers, the FED.
On earth, there is enough for everyone, yet we have not been able to share so that everyone has what they need. That would be peace, harmony. No matter how many wars countries have had, no matter how many times countries say we are “fighting for peace”, we have never been able to live in peace. “Fighting for peace” is an idiotic statement and philosophy. Look at it. Peace comes by being peaceful. We all have the same needs – food, shelter, water, air, to make a positive contribution, to be useful, to be loved and valued, to be healthy, happy, free… and yet the world is as it is.
First of all i am a dual citizen,U.S. and Austrian which,at least in my own opinion
, has taught me too be more open minded and see matters from a different view than the average U.S. citizen(no intention of beeing degrading here).
I totally agree with Ron’s blowback theory,which in my opinion should be obvious too anybody who possesses common sense.Also i’ve come too understand that he is not talking about isolation from the rest of the world, but cooperation carried out through diplomacy and trade,which is the only way.Not engaging in wars is a very good idea and for those of you pointing out the connection too WW2,i think this is something entirely different.
The nazi regime was lead by a madman who wanted too conquer this whole planet and was also very delusional as he was an occultist who not only believed in an aryan race as such but in beeing the carrier of a the next step of evolution by raising his new race too perfection.
This cannot,in my opinion, be compared too other dictators like Saddam Hussein,Franco or Stalin.They were terrible mass-murderers but fall in a different category.
Last of all the idea of letting the people hold responsibility for themselves on regional basis(education,health care),reminds me of the concepts of a specific school of anarchism,which i find too be very supportive.
I am only 17 years old,but i am very interested in history,politics and literature, and i think Ron Paul’s currently the only politically influential person that who is on the right way.
I pay my respects too you,and i really hope too see you as a candidat in 2012.
P.S:Replies on my post are very welcome,i’d relly like too hear your opinion.
Cheers
Congressman Paul is still the best we have, and this is April 2009.
I think people are slowly smartening up, about the Private Owned Fed Reserve, and how manipulative they have been with America. Let’s back his bill 1207 before we’re all run by the NIF.
Thank you Dr. Paul for your tireless work on our behalf, for liberty and justice for all.
i used to think Ron Paul was crazy, but with a good in depth look at our nations history and the founding fathers it is clear that his approach to politics is the only one that protects our most precious national asset and that is liberty.
the extreme Muslim will not stop until we are all dead or are pracicing Muslims…
Those who would say I dont know much about Muslims would be mistaken. Ive read enough of various books to know what I am facing as a defender. I served knowing the crazy groups of the world will never rest until their agendas are a reality.
Unfortunately, Islam has been used by more than just a few groups to impose HARSH realities around the world for millions of people. Many groups today use it as a basis to recruit and gain support for thier political agenda.
Whether they truly want to turn the Western world into practicing Islamic nations or not really isnt the point — its the fact they want the power in the first place. They say they just want their land…but to think they will stop there is foolish.
I never said all Muslim people are bad or that every muslim is somehow a secret spy bent on the will of the collective “muslim” agenda ….because even within Islam itself their are various interpretations of the book just as in christianity and the various denominations based on the biblical scrolls (or at least those one king decided to keep)
Christians are no saints either — for many many years things that were very unchristian were performed in the name of “god”…those people perverted a faith just as radical islamists do now…the difference is in todays society we dont have christians blowing up schools and tourists in the name of christianity….
The Spanish wiped of millions and converted millions of indians to christianity….many by force…
But today we have to deal with threats that are in the present. Radicals using Islam is real. Are the so called “nice islamists” really doing much about it or are they washing their hands of it and turning their cheeks to “infidels” being killed.
So far when approached to help capture those who would pervert their religion many muslims just choose to remain silent on the issue and only voice their disdain for the killings behind closed doors.
The facts remain — were fighting muslim extremists daily from all over the world in Iraq. The majority of the threats arent even Iraqis, they are terrorists sent from the far corners of the earth. Iraq is the easiest place for a terrorist to confront a US military member and survive. Often because they only take one shot and retreat to safety before other members locate his position and end his life.
Our current ratio is 13 terrorists killed for every one US service member lost. The small raids they have tried to put together have been met with the most highly skilled and equipped warriors the world has ever seen. They lose, which is why they run.
If you allow evil to pool its resources it only grows in strength…terrorism is like cancer…caught early enough it can be treated …left alone its fatal.
As far as the US not being the richest country in the world…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
Our GDP is number one by a LARGE margin…if it werent for the oil in the ground southwest asia would be an afterthought in the world economy
Just because you have a few oil barrons in the land of sand it does not make them the financial powerhouse that the united states is…when the oil dries up their GDP will fall lower than it already is
Our country has proven that a free and open market is a successful one…our open market won the cold war thru sheer ability of making money
Its this very success thats made us enemies in places where people feel we are greedy and morally bankrupt. Their extreme religious beliefs and their poverty fuel their hatred for the people they hold responsible for their plight (namely us) whether thru economics or thru assisting other countries militarily — they hold us responsible for their failures.
Standard recuitment is $10,000 dollars for a suicide bombers family memebers — a very large sum in these 3rd world countries — to promise them 1000 virgins in heaven, 10K for their family and being labeled a hero of the cause these young boys will blow themselves up — Do you think recruitment would be as strong if these kids were in a better economic position?
I dont believe a “kill’em all” policy will work — its going to take more than just force — its going to take dollars and an open society.
When these kids are exposed to freedom, western living and an economic outlook that includes a happy family life I think recruitment and support will dimish to a safe point — it can never completely go away because people may always feel a certain way but in terms of power and ability it will be as threatening as street gangs….which is another issue that fallen by the wayside..
Thats a whole other thread though lol
Crazy people with an agenda? When it comes to this subject you really do not know what you are talking about. Muslims in Iraq especially are going through a civil war, not only that but there is a foreign entity there who is not talking their culture or customs seriously. Marines storming disrespectfully into peoples homes? for what? Imagine you are a woman living in Iraq, since you are in your home, you are not wearing your head covering; all of a sudden, a group of American marines break down your door to make sure you are not a terrorist and ask questions. Respectfully, these men could have knocked and given the woman time to get decent according to her beliefs for their entrance and she could furthermore save her door by opening it for them. This kind of aggression and behavior has really happened; disrespect for civilians has turned a lot of them against the United States; honestly, how would you feel? I have know someone who was wounded in Iraq after seeing this exact kind of disrespect time after time. Part of the insurgency is due to some form of sectarian extremism, but a big chunk is coming from disgruntled people who have been disrespected by American servicemen, it is in this vulnerable state that they will join the extremists. How many people do you think have been treated like crap by the military out in Iraq? And we expect these people to just take it? Muslim extremism has been created by Western powers who have treated people in the Middle East like they are stupid and won’t notice.
You think this is the richest country and that our unregulated capitalism has succeeded? How is your home loan rate these days? like your payments? Have any family out of a job right now? I could go on for days…….. Russia collapsed because their wealth system was tied to their government, it was destined to collapse; we did nothing really to help them along except for simply existing. We make dirty deals with dictators consistently, and yes, that makes us responsible for the plight of people in the Middle East. We supported the Shah as he was robbing his country blind of oil revenues, we support the Saudi government who is doing basically the same thing. Honestly, a happy family life in this country being an example for Muslims? No one has an in tact family in this country; at least in Islam you usually have a mother and a father living in one house. And if you dare say that women in Islam are abused and that is why they stay you are more disillusioned than I thought.
In your threads you have not mentioned anything that would indicate you know anything about Muslims, or even the cultures behind Muslims. To understand Islam you must first understand that its roots are in Christianity; same creation story, same prophets up to Mohammad, and they have different sects, just like Christianity. Secondly, you must understand the roots of the sects (Shia, Sunni…). Thirdly, you must apply the different ancient cultures that adhere to Islam, every culture has put their own spin on the practice of Islam.
Honestly you strike me as they type of person who doesn’t know any of these things.
Oh and one more thing Sergio, we didn’t win the cold war because we had the ability to make money domestically. All of that money came from war torn Europe. The Bretton Woods agreement was signed after WWII and monopolized all production on the side of the US. Europe had no possible way of producing any goods and the US jumped on the opportunity to set up the World Bank, IMF, and GATT (which eliminated Tariff rights to Europe, and therefore established free global trade). This, compounded with the Marshall plan (1 billion dollars in aid; not only had to be paid back, but the money could only buy American goods…… 100% return rate 1 billion at a time) is what gave the US money, and we pissed it away by opening unregulated markets. We should still be that rich, but because we all live in our glass houses that are stamped made in China, Taiwan, Japan, and India; WE ARE NOT! So you just keep that in mind the next time you think this country is all of what it used to be.
Revival not war is needed. I am not sure that too many know who Afrahat was but he was known as the Persian sage in the 4th century and wrote a creed that is highly similiar to the Nicean. I don’t understand how Christians are being brainwashed by neo-conservatives. Christians wake up and remember the Lord’s words on the sword.
And for Further Information ALLAH GOD YAHWEH JAH AND any other name that is given to the creator…… All the same being
Those muslims were being persecuted by idolators who used the building which abraham build THE KABBAH and defiled it, had orgys, erected graven images of their idols and such things. Complete disrespect to Islam and Judaism
Georgia Congressman warns of Obama Dictatorship, He’s asking for a National Security Force answerable to him to “rebuild” the infrastructure here on American soil during “postwar reconstruction” and that if he’s successful in this plan, one of the first phases will be to implement gun control. Sound familiar?
I’d love to hear what Ron Paul has to say regarding this. If you have any information where I can find Mr Paul’s opinions in this regard, please enlighten me!
In response to some of the comments:
The world has changed politically and economically a lot since Hitler time. The majority of people just want to have a good living and live peacelly with each other. With nuclear arsenals, no country is going to march their army to conquer other countries like ancient time. Super powers like Russia and China, they just want to have influnce over their regions and neightbors, just like our influence over Canada, Central and South Americas. Why should we step out of our boundries and police the whole world. If other countries want our military help and our protection, they have to be accepted by their people and the invitee should share the costs.
Wow…very interesting ‘facts’ from the Qur’an.
I’d love to hear response/explanation from a practicing Muslim (or several).
I agree… I would like someone to expalin Jihad as well AND if the Qur’an is being hijacked so to speak for evil… then where are the Islam leaders treating these people as a cult and doing something about it? Perhaps they are… But we need to all fight for our FREEDOMS, CIVIL RIGHTS, LIBERTIES, and FREE MARKETS together. We need to recognize that from our differences comes our strength and prosperity.
“There is nothing in the Qu’ran or in Sunnah, NOTHING I repeat – if you read the entire text – that suggests that Islam has any kind of goal of turning everyone into Muslims or otherwise killing them. This has never been a part of Islam.”
Qur’an:9:5 — “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Ishaq:324 — “He said, ‘Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.’”
Ishaq:587 — “Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace.”
” In fact Hadith tell Muslims that they might be half of those in heaven, suggesting that there will be ‘other’ believers in Heaven as well.”
Qur’an 33:64 — “Verily Allah has cursed the Unbelievers [whom he defines as Christians in the 5th surah] and has prepared for them a Blazing Fire to dwell in forever. No protector will they find, nor savior. That Day their faces will be turned upside down in the Fire. They will say: ‘Woe to us! We should have obeyed Allah and obeyed the Messenger!’ ‘Our Lord! Give them double torment and curse them with a very great Curse!’”
“A true muslim when confronted with someone with differing religious beliefs that doesn’t want to engage in any kind of enlightened discussion, will just say, You to religion and me to mine and walk away.”
Qur’an 5:5 — “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends.”
Qur’an 21:06 — “Not one of the populations which We destroyed believed: will these believe? …So we saved whom We pleased, and We destroyed the disbelievers.”
Tabari VIII:130 — “The Messenger said, ‘Two religions cannot coexist in the Arabian Peninsula.’ Umar investigated the matter, then sent to the Jews, saying: ‘Allah has given permission for you to be expelled.”
Qur’an 60:4 — “We reject you. Hostility and hate have come between us forever, unless you believe in Allah only.’”
“Because terrorism goes completely against Islamic beliefs – TRULY.”
Qur’an:8:12 — “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
Ishaq:326 — “If you come upon them, deal so forcibly as to terrify those who would follow, that they may be warned. Make a severe example of them by terrorizing Allah’s enemies.”
Qur’an:8:67 — “It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.”
Ishaq:327 — “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”
Bukhari:V9B87N127 — “The Prophet said, ‘I have been given the keys of eloquent speech and given victory with terror.’”
What the fuck is Ishaq?
Only Holy Quran Yusuf ali translation is best
And Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim
Please try to understand the times in which the Quran Was written the Muslims were being oppressed daily. These were times of great war and struggle.
Do not Misquote the QURAN or leave out Certain Parts to try and prove your point. You just look ignorant to those like myself who have read the entire QURAN.
Um, Halal pig butcher is right. Moreover than the context of the period, Arabic is a language that cannot really ever be adequately translated into English; the meaning of the word changes profoundly Similar, to Farsi in the sense that the language has many poetic ways of saying simple things,the translations are misleading. There are a lot of times when a saying, when translated, makes no sense at all. When taken out of the whole scripture, these small sentences are even more misleading. And if some of what you published came from the Sunnah, check it out. Some hadiths (the saying, actions, and approvals of Mohammad)are authentic, and others are not. So if you took some of what you published out of unauthentic hadith, well……..that just make you a really dumb bitch I guess. I am a Christian; I do not like people perverting scripture from he bible and so I definitely don’t like it when someone else does it to another religious group.
Sergio –
I am curious how much YOU understand about Muslims and where YOUR understanding of them comes from – please explain. As a practicing muslim, I can assure you that muslims are not, I repeat, ARE NOT interested in taking over the world or turning the WEST into muslim-ruled land. There is nothing in the Qu’ran or in Sunnah, NOTHING I repeat – if you read the entire text – that suggests that Islam has any kind of goal of turning everyone into Muslims or otherwise killing them. This has never been a part of Islam. In fact Hadith tell Muslims that they might be half of those in heaven, suggesting that there will be ‘other’ believers in Heaven as well. Please try to meet with and speak to muslims in your community, wherever you may find them. Go visit the mosque in your community and see what this religion is about. Muslims have never been into conspiring to destroy others. That is not Islam. A true muslim when confronted with someone with differing religious beliefs that doesn’t want to engage in any kind of enlightened discussion, will just say, You to religion and me to mine and walk away. That is Sunnah. If there are radical terrorists out there claiming that they are acting upon Islamic doctrine – they are LYING or MANIPULATING ignorant masses in order to get them to carry out their political agenda (much like our government does). Because terrorism goes completely against Islamic beliefs – TRULY. For those of you who don’t believe me, please seek out sincere Islamic sources, muslims in your community, genuine islamic sources online and find out for yourselves. I believe that Sergio has been indoctrinated with the militaristic propaganda needed to get our military men to believe that muslims are a real enemy and threat and therefore do not feel bad about killing them. This is what the government and military must do in order to get soldiers to carry out their agendas. When it doesn’t work, you have defectors, or soldiers coming back with PTSD or substance abuse/addiction disorders. Sergio, before you continue smearing Islam, please try to seek out the truth first.
As a military veteran of both operation enduring freedom and Iraqi Freedom I have to wonder how much anyone really understands the Muslims we are fighting.
This is a group of people who are bent on the fall of the WEST. Not just the United States…the entire western civilization as we know it.
Those who who dont belong to a faith, those who do belong to a faith, homosexuals basically EVERYONE who is not a Muslim is a target.
We have seen it already i Europe….we are so giving and “understanding” that Mulims have DEMANDED more and more…murdering their wives and wanting it not to be a crime? Religious freedoms? How far will they go before people wake up and see the errosion of the free thinking world…go to a Muslim country and see if you can even hold a bible study witout ending up in prison.
Once a country becomes a “muslim” country personal freedoms and liberties go out the window….yet somehow people think it will be different if we leave them alone…as if they cant become citizens in our country and begin the process here…
There is no safety in burying your head in the sand and pretending evil people dont exist. Humans are imperfect and extract their own versions of a perfect world…the extreme Muslim will not stop until we are all dead or are pracicing Muslims…if you think I am crazy I dare you to go to a country ruled by the Koran and try to exercise the basic Amercian liberties we enjoy…freedom of speech for one…
As much as I would love to live in a world where my children were free to visit any country wihtout fear I am not nearly that naieve. Anytime you have money (United States = worlds richest country) People EXPECT certain things.
1. They expect us to fight the good fight (whatever that may be in their perspective)
2. They expect us to shell out money for their disasters, their poverty and their “causes”
3. They expect us to suck it up when our goods hit their shores and they charge 20-100% taxes on them and make them basically so expensive no one overseas can even afford an American made product. (Japan is a major player as well as China)
China manipulates its currency to make American goods too expensive. With 5 billion people spending power takes on a whole new ballgame vs our 300 million…
The number one fundamental problem in our country is education and the lack of common skills.
Children in third world countries cant even read but can operate businesses. Small business is the life blood of our country and most kids in school cant balance a check book. They dont know what the stock market is, how it works or why we need it.
Financial education (or lack thereof) creates the situation we are in now. We have raised generations of CONSUMERS…materialistic self absorbed CONSUMERS who dont “manufacture” anything.
Healthcare….why is it a Hospital can charge you $8 for one aspirin but internet providers are FIGHTING to offer a months worth for $10….competition and personal accountability.
IN a system where NO ONE shops around in, with limited providers, is it any wonder why people can charge 50-100-150K for procedures that take a few hours….if you dont foot the bill what do you care…let someone else pay for your open heart quadruple bypass surgery…your gonna smoke, eat greaseburgers and sit on the couch like a good consumer and let the rest of us pay for it.
Insurance is about the greater good…for those unfortunate things we cant control. If no one is accountable for their personl actions in their daily health the system will collapse (or become EXTREMELY expensive)
IF we have fewer and fewer doctors….prices for service go sky high (hows 500-750K+ a year sound doctor?)
The overwhelming majority of people dont need super high $$$ specialists but since we have so few doctors and so many sick (read unhealthy lifestyle) people we end up needing MAJOR procedures to correct simple things that could have been avoided with more checkups and healthier lifestyles. (had we had
Everybody talks about social feel good projects but no one asks where the money is going to come from….I guess we can just throw it on the backs of our great grandchildren and ask them to take one for the team.
Why not have goverment doctors who go to public universities and medical schools who sign up to serve as public doctors for 10-15 years in return for a free education?
More doctors, lower hospital costs and a “pay it forward” public service corp of medical professionals.
As it stands now college costs are skyrocketing and doctors or aspiring doctors have to take on a mountain of debt….obviously the payoff is there (should they make it) but honestly how much do books cost? $35,000 a semester? Really?
But again…no competition…you can charge whatever you like…meamwhile Medicare and Social Security are the MAJORITY of our budget while the HUGE (read “joke”) military budget is about 5% of the national budget…if were looking to save money that might be a good place to start…
First of all the US isnt the richest country in the world, How could we be if we have no valuable exports. we just appera that was because our monetary system is ran by the federal reserve who can print money out of thin air with nothing of value to back it(debt) and excercise that ability to the max.
Second of all our millitary policy of world policing and helping dictators, giving israel bombs copters, bombers, guns bullets, tanks and anyother type of ammunition you could think of has To Impose their will upon palestineans that have just as many rights to that land as the isralies do (if not MORE) led to the abhorance of america and our big brother great Britan.
Muslim law supports the belief that a person or group of people can practice their sepratist religion freely. I WOULD KNOW. I AM MUSLIM AND HAVE STUDIED ISLAMIC LAW (SHARIAH), You have no idea what youre talking about
All of our Inflation problems would be solved if we changed our monetary system to a gold standard. But so many people are afraid to possibly lose a shread of what this inflation has brought them. even if it is whats best in the long run.
ABOLISH THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND INCOME TAX, How can we call ourselvs capitalists a free nation when our government awards or rewards failure and squandering with trillions of dollars in bailout money.
Please think logically. If you put your partisan beliefs aside and what rumors you have been told and pre concieved notions about this man aside you will see the obious truth.
I have Concidered myself democratic up to this point. now i see that there is no true democrat or republican candidates for office only opportunists Now I am not partisan. i only have the best intrests of our nation at heart.
RON PAUL STANDS ALONE
Thanks for your reply… interesting.
Sergio,
You are aware that in Iran there are pretty large practicing Jewish communities, right? Oh and that there are even Christians in Iran. If Islam is so Militant against so called “heretics”, don’t you think that the conflict between Sunni’s and Shi’as would have caused social implosion already? Sectarian issues are far more important to Muslims than most other issues; further more, Christians and Jews are referred to as people of the book, and Muslim men are allowed to marry women of the book; if Muslims were so militant this would not be the case.
Thanks for going to Iraq, no really; THANK YOU FOR BEING AN AMERICAN SERVICEPERSON. Honestly though, could you do America a big favor and get a clue? One book that may help you would be the Shi’a revival by Vali Nasr; he goes into detail about this subject. Oh, and just so that you don’t fall into any trap……… MUSLIMS ARE NICE PEOPLE. I am a Christian and trust me, there are some major evil people in that faith to, but it is not indicative of every person of that particular faith.
Cheryl, I think it’s ironic that you would question how the government could continue without income tax. All the IRS has done for us as a nation is convince us that we have more money than we have and create new levels of beaucracy that more closely resemble a business than a civil service. The “Victory tax” was created in 1942 to pay for WWII; this tax is what we now know as “federal withholding”. Also the same government that was propagating the greatness of hemp during this same period, currently incarcerates large numbers of Americans for growing this same crop. I don’t need anyone to tell me how valuble my children are to me on an annual (financial) basis; I appreciate their value on a daily basis. If you need a government to make those kinds of decisions for you, maybe the European Union would be more palatable for you.
I talked at length with a Ron Paul supporter today. He could not answer for me, to my satisfaction, how Ron Paul is going to accomplish ANY of his goals without levying a tax of some kind. For that, he’s going to need an IRS — or are we supposed to just write checks straight to Ron Paul, and he’ll distribute the money as he sees fit?
Does he plan to do away with the US military, and allow the states to raise up militias instead, which would voluntarily support any military action the President and Congress decide to undertake?
How’s he even going to get paid without an IRS? Who pays for the White House upkeep, the Secret Service, and all that?
Please give me a coherent answer. I am at a loss right now to understand how anyone who thinks these things through could support him. Our United States would fall apart, as far as I can tell.
~~Cheryl
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Please reply.
I believe that the war in Afghanistan is a “response of vengeance” and not a real war. We are fighting against a group of criminals who live in a drug dominated country, with a weak democratic government not supported by the majority of “tribal” Afghans.
Do you concur?
And…do you believe that continuing this fight will wind up just like Iraq, costing thousands of Afghan, American and NATO lives, billions of dollars and years and years of conflict?
Anyone who labels Ron Paul as an isolationist is clearly not paying attention. He believes in a foreign policy based around “non-aggression”. I’d also like to commend Damien on regurgitating John McCain’s nonsense and proving that some people will believe just about anything. What brought Hitler to power was the environment around him. An impoverished nation that had been battered by the Treaty of Versailles (30 billion dollars in war reparations). Inflation was at an all time high. With the NAZI party’s increasing power in the government, Hitler was able to obtain the title of Chancellor in 1933. People saw a leader in Hitler and by the start of World War II, Germany had a fully equipped military. Isolationism certainly played a role in the post World War I era but there was much more to it than that. By securing our borders and treating every other nation as equal, Intl. relations will improve. Non-aggression is NOT isolationism. Congressman Paul believes in trade and travel with other nations. That my friends is NOT isolationism. The McCain/Palin ticket will be the final nail in the coffin for the neo-conservatives. A terribly mismanaged party that has lost its way. Dr. Paul is one of the few that has kept his integrity, along with his word. I may not agree with Dr. Paul on everything, but in terms of foreign policy, I believe he is dead-on.
Everybody in America wants to agree with Obama and Mcain about our troops being over in Iraq. Well i dont. I have family members in the military who has been to iraq more than one time. matter of fact my brother is on his 5th term. untill yall have family members over there being shot at and told they cant shot back dont complain. our men and woman should have never went over. the iraqi people were not the ones who bombed the towers. whats going on in their culture in none of our buisness and we need to bring the americans home…………. RON PAUL IS SUPPORTED IN JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!!
I just want to say, I’m an Obama supporter but what Ron Paul has to say is very much to the point and TRUE! It’s too bad that people can’t think outside of the political box.
Why doesn’t the moderator of the McCain/Obama ask them about how they commit foreign actions that they have no authorit to commit based on the Constitution that is suppose to govern the executive branch? What a joke these canidates are…
Isolationism alone is a bad idea, in our current situation. Were it that 70% of the world didn’t already hate us, I would agree with Dr. Paul. However, because of the blunders of the past, current and future administrations will have to work on improving our international relations. We do, however, need to get out of other countries and let them do their own thing — imperialism lead us down this dangerous path.
I agree with 75% of Dr. Paul’s platform, but I cannot support him due to his opinion on Islamic terrorism. Giuliani had it wrong – Mohammed Atta and his 18 creeps hated us because we are infidels.
Speaking of “blowback,” every non-Muslim culture out there has suffered punches in the face for 1400 years. It is time that Muslims admit the very low points of their history and own up to their mistakes like Western civilization has done (I’m not holding my breath). And for every jerk who talks about “Jerusalem is the 3rd holiest city in Islam,” I would like to point out that the Hagia Sophia in Constantinople was the most important church in eastern orthodox Christianity until you-know-who turned it into a Mosque.
What?
Would Ron Paul elect to wait until out enemies are at our border before he would engage the military?
The reason why his opponents call him a “nut” and a “lunatic” is because they’re scared. He is everything they’re not and he threatens their very existence. Ron Paul is what a politician should be. Someone who looks out for the interest of the people, not themselves. The conservatives see him as a nut because he calls them out for the war mongering attitude that they bring to the table. They even refer to him as an isolationist although he is not. He simply believes in non-aggression. Free trade, travel, among others are many aspects to international relations that Ron Paul promotes, but he is strictly against any aggression due to “blowback” as he refers to it.
It’s a shame that people like him with great ideas are shunned from any possibility of winning due to the two party system. A system which gives Americans really no choice and forces many to “waste” their vote by selecting either Republican or Democrat. I’d like to know more of Dr. Paul’s views on gun control, healthcare, abortion and stem-cell research.
Dr. Paul, you should be more specific on this. I hear my parents and their friends concerned about this specific stance you take and I myself only question the jobs part and the extent of the scale back. I don’t think being totally isolated is a good thing. We should help all countries in need, ie in other ways. I do hope you clearify this next week or sometime before the election.
ps- I’M STILL WRITING YOU IN/ VOTING FOR YOU!!
Ron, I need more information. Your policy appears to lie somewhere between fighting a defensive war, but you also hint at keeping our troops abroad to hunt down the 911 planners. I’d favor a more Regan style approach: Fund and support those who seek to destroy terrorist groups, and terrorist states. We did this in Afghanistan against the Communists, we can do the same thing against the Taliban.
We should keep a base in Qatar. So long as oil is generating so much wealth for the middle east and Russia, we need to counter any move made to seize sole control of the world’s oil supply and the development of nuclear weapons. Qatar is also well suited to deploy our forces for disaster support. In fact, I’ve been reading about the success of Qatar’s national carrier since the last 90s. Like Ramstien in Germany and Milldenhall in the U.K. it’s a great strategic location.
I have no problem with leaving Iraq, but we have to insure that we don’t abandon our ally as we did with Afghanistan after the Soviet defeat. 911 is a direct result of our failure to follow-through and our leader’s tendency to cherry pick what’s conveniently important, ignoring all the rest.
“I’d favor a more Regan style approach: Fund and support those who seek to destroy terrorist groups, and terrorist states. We did this in Afghanistan against the Communists, we can do the same thing against the Taliban.”
For real, like you really believe this? FOR REAL????!!!
That “tactic” is what created Osama Bin Laden in the first place!!!!!!!!! 911 is the direct result of………..this type of behavior in the Middle East! Bin Laden was an entity that for the right price paid by the US government, used American learned tactics to get the Russians out, then he turned against us.
I believe Einstein quoted, “The definition of insanity is trying the same things over and over and expecting different results”
Indeed, the only reason that the Taliban exists is because of CIA training and U.S. funds and weapons. You suggest arming, funding and training ANOTHER group of “rebels” to fight the Taliban? What happens in 10 years when those “rebels” become terrorists?
Patriotism is not being so prideful as to dismiss the glaring facts that many of the wars being waged abroad today are direct results of US intervention in past foreign matters.
Terrorism will always exist, but hopefully without training, support and provocation from the US.
First off, we didn’t create Osama Bin Laden or Saddam Husein. They both choose their own paths. Saddam became “President” through assasination, and allied with the US only when it was convienient for us and for him. So long as he needed to counter Soviet supported Iran (and so did we), Saddam needed us and we needed him.
Bin Laden started out as a spoiled rich kid, turning to militant Islam during his search for meaning in his life. No one in the US said “hey, would you like to become a terrorist?” Again, it was reaction to the Soviets that led the US to support the Mujahedin. The vaccum we and the Soviets left allowed the Taliban’s rise. Bin Ladden simply married into the most powerful tribes, and used his personal wealth and database (Al Queda – The Base) to carry out both criminal and political acts. The former helps to pay for the latter.
Yes we trained the Mujahedin, but we didn’t create Al Queda or the Talliban. It was our desire to turn inward after the Cold War and a new president’s desire to avoid foregin policy which led to the rise of terrorism in the 90s. While declarated that peace was “breaking out around the world,” war was breaking out in the Third World. From sub-Saharin Africa to the steps of Asia nation after nation crumbled from the loss of Western or Soviet support. So for those who wish to turn inward, if not the US then who will deal with these post-Cold War conflicts? China? E.U.? the U.N.? the Russian Federation?
So, remind me why we’re fighting a war in Iraq, again? Are you honestly backing your argument with the wildly successful Iraq War?
Terrorism existed long before the 90’s. All the US did was supply it with advanced weapons and dissent before turning its back, letting it fester and breed. The solution wasn’t never to “turn inward”, the solution was not to meddle in the first place. You really can’t see that?
You can argue “coulda, woulda, shoulda” all you want. The fact is simple – we have to deal with the world as it exists.
So how does Ron Paul deal with our Cold War legacy? He simply states “back in the day, we did’t interfere.” I know it sounds good. It really does! However Ron Paul doesn’t mention how this policy was thwarted time and time again by those who saw our pacifism as weakness. He’s giving an idilic idea, one that doesn’t work in the real world.
DAMIEN America was an isolated country before and in the beginning of WWII. Aparently no one pays attention in their western history classes because Russia defeated Hitler. Well, Russia’s winter defeated Hitler. The US entered with one year left in the European theatre. In addition, we entered the war on the basis that the Japanese attacked the Americans without provocation. This highly differs from our war policy post-WWII, including the Iraq War, as Paul stated above.
I wish McCain would at least pick Ron Paul for a VP. Thats the only way I would feel comfortable voting for him.
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hey guys.. greetings from Iceland. Just want to say that Ron Paul as president would be the best thing to happen for the American people (and the world). People here in Europe are fed up with the current war-hungry American foreign policy lead by the Bush administration, and the “you are either with us or against us!” attitude. I wish we had more politicians as Ron Paul (and even Dennis Kucinich) that truly care for the nation’s and the world’s well-being in contrast to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their people, who so clearly have a (not so) hidden agenda.
I will be the first to vote for Ron Paul if he runs for the Icelandic presidency haha
Although I have never been in the US, unfortunately, I believe that Americans are good people, but need to raise their voices more to keep their government in check.. and first of all, vote for the right people
Ron, you’ve gotta flesh this out. As a former Airman with cross-service experience, I know for a fact that half of our military bases in the US server as little more than career life support for several of your colleagues in the House and the Senate. “Job creation” is the primary reason for our large military, with “credibility” for our elected officials being the other reason. How do you propose to cut our force size without making the voters feel emasculated? How do you limit our involvement in foreign wars when the lessons of history state that they are unavoidable? How do you convince your fellow politicians that a limited government is what they should champion when for nearly fifty years they’ve relied upon a expansionist government?
Good Points
It would be great if Dr. Ron Paul could find time to visit Czech Republic or speak publicly in US(my apologies if he already did) and support nation which has been decades of 20th century oppressed by USSR. The nation which is 70% against any military base in heart of Europe, regardless if Russian, US or Martian. The nation which is not willing any presence of US radar station, part of the Star wars project, which is planned by sick US and Czech government and which is already starting new round of Cold war.
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Good. I agree.
Usa is not about world military domination ….
Usa doesnt need military aggressions to be the most powerful, peaceful and respected country in the world. ….
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Isolationism, is that what you think America comes first means?
Hunt down 9/11 terrorist planners? Withdraw from Iraq? (Terrorist planner goes: Oh goody, I’ll just go to Iraq after they leave!)
Good luck findin’ ‘em!
What would the breaking point be for your isolationism? What would it take to get you to go to war abroad? I’m not sure I want to vote for someone who would allow someone like Hitler to take over the world because America comes first?
Damien, you realize that most the people the CIA are placing into office in foreign countries are far worse then most canidiates they would pick of their own. Only reason they get put their is because their pro-america, nothing else matters.
What would Ron Paul have had us do when Hitler was running over Europe? I would really like an answer to that question. What would have been his strategy for stopping Hitler? Also, what would his response have been to the Japanese bombing Pearl Harbor? Paul has a ton of great ideas for America. But, we are not an island.
Just takes a Declaration Of War by the Congress.
I did not know of Ron Paul till a young friend of mine pointed him out! Now I am convinced he is the best thing for America! So, why won’t any of the talk show hosts I listen to willing to take calls from Ron Paul supporters,is he considered a fringe candidate He wouldn’t be if they had given him just 10% of the coverage given to hillary,obama,mccain and the other 9 republicans that are now out of the race
Okay, I really like Ron Paul and there have even been supporters of Paul who comment on the Obama blogs. We like the Paul supporters, actually…how about showing us a little love back?
I’ve always said if Obama weren’t in it I’d vote for Ron Paul.
“I’ve always said if Obama weren’t in it I’d vote for Ron Paul”
They are completely different people – totally different philosophy – How could you have two polar opposites as your first and second choice? Wierd.
James is right: How on earth do Obama and Paul have anything in common? As a Paul supporter I find zero redeeming qualities in Obama just as I find zero redeeming qualities in the mainstream repubs.
Now that John McCain is selling out and really pissing me off..Ron PAul seems to be the best choice for president.I just wish the country wasnt so stupid,voting for hillary and obama in the millions,its scary.Id rather have mccain then hillary or obama,but i feel like ron paul would be a wasted vote because it would be helping obama..so im not sure yet..hopefully,maybe..ron paul can run independant to a new party and pick a great vice president,make it a close 3 way race where he has a shot and I am probably gonna vote 4 him.
I’ve just given Mr. Paul a serious look for the first time and am very impressed, he is not a “nut” as his opponents would have us believe. His opinions on all the major issues are well thought out and documented. It is surprising that more people are not taking him seriously, but I have to admit that he has simply not gotten his message out, and that, unfortunately, takes oodles of $$$. He needs support from major sources, how to get it is another question.
I am in the same position as you Jack. I never gave Ron Paul a second look. Now that I am actually taking the time, I find him to be a tough minded Patriot! He has my vote if he runs in 2012 and I am working hard on my end for his Audit the Fed Legislation.
I am going to blog and paste Ron Paul to every Obama or Clinton blog. I hope this will help get the word out. I can’t believe more aren’t for you. I live in the state of Texas and many call us Rebels yes we are!! Texas is the most freedom loving state in the Union!
agreed. we should start campaigning ron paul 2012 now and get word out.. I am envious of your state’s patriotism.. mine(commonwealth of Virginia) used to be a conservative state. it was one of the saddest days for me to see it go blue in the 08 election.
I agree. My wife and I are native Californians and are fed up. We are taking a trip to Texas to go to a 4th of July rally at Southfork Ranch. Us and our families are looking to move to Texas because you stand for liberty, small government, capitalism…basically everything this country was founded on. We are going on this trip specifically to see if Texas is really standing up for liberty as much as it sounds like it is.
Don’t be so sure that Texas stands for liberty and freedom. I am a native Texan. I lived in California for many years and decided to move back to Texas. I can say that I can’t really tell that Texas has greater freedoms. First let me say this doesn’t have anything to do with Ron Paul. I love his viewpoints and never really thought much about the things he talked about, but he makes so much sense. I am definately a supporter. However, Texas has some very real issues I don’t like. Freedom should be tangible. I don’t feel any freer in Texas than I did in California. The police are so overbearing. The local officials will make you more miserable than the federal government ever thought of. If you are moving here from California, it won’t be long before you have so many tickets, you can’t use their stupid deferral. All of them will be for going 10 mile over the speed limit, when you had no idea that the speed limit changed. I suspect most of their state revenues come from targetting teenagers because their parents will pay up to keep them out of trouble. Just an example, four kids decided to sneak out one night. One kid knew of a neighbor that kept beer in his airplane hangar and went into the hangar & took a six pack of beer & took it to the others to drink. Someone saw them out late at night and took a picture. The police called in the one they could identify, scared him to death, he told on the rest of them. All the kids were charged with a felony burglary. The police came to their school and took them out of the school without notifying the parents, fingerprinted and booked them. A lot of people here don’t have a problem with this. They think this should be okay. I think this is isane. Their sheriffs are elected. This sounds like it would protect you, I’ve found that because they rely on the people in the community with the most money to run for office, it ingratiates them to the wealthy. They have a lot of say in what the sheriff does. Those kids got charged with a felony because the sheriff was up for reelection and he wanted to be seen as being tough on crime. Also, my teenage son was driving home late one night after basketball practice. A policeman pulled him over, stating that he didn’t use his blinker when he changed lanes, when he had not changed lanes, then he searched him and his car and gave him a breathalizer. He didn’t find anything, and he hadn’t been drinking, but this really bothers me. I have a brother that has spent almost his whole adult life in prison. He got in trouble when he was 17 for forging a check. He was given a lengthy sentence, documented, put on parole, violated his parole, made to finish out his sentence in prison, which taught him how to be a better criminal, which set him up for one prison sentence after another. Child protective services in Texas is greatly feared. It is full of middle aged black women that are more racist than any white person I’ve ever known. You are pretty immune to it if you have money, if you don’t you are at the mercy of those that have little mercy. Is this the kind of freedom you’re looking for? Sorry this is so long. I’m not totally down on Texas, I just think they can’t boast of being so much for personal liberty and freedom. That’s just not so.
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