Foreign Policy

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Look, we are bankrupt as a nation. Our army marches in Chinese boots, while our air force flies on Saudi oil. We cannot continue to enforce a Pax Americana while our southern border allows illegals and terrorists to pour into our country. And we certainly shouldn’t be footing the defense bill for countries with whom our industries compete in the global marketplace. Bring our soldiers home. Secure America first.

What is Blowback?

If you hit someone and kill their family, they will hate you and probably hit you back in the future.

That’s what blowback is all about. It seems like such a simple concept, but many of Ron Paul’s opponents for the Presidency vehemently denied its validity.

They proclaim that what our military does abroad has no effect on how the citizens of the world feel towards us. The 9/11 terrorists hated our wealth and freedom so intensely that they sacrificed their lives to prove it? (Of course, our government bombing their countries, propping up their dictators and supplying their enemies with money and weapons had nothing to do with it…)

Instead of securing our borders, we’ve been planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression. Our military is spread thin all across the planet, yet we remain involved in dangerous power plays that unnecessarily put the lives of our soldiers at risk. And we brazenly squandered the wealth of our nation as if there were no tomorrow.

It doesn’t make any sense unless you consider increasing the profits of the military-industrial complex to be in the “national interest”, no matter what the cost to the rest of us may be.

America first. That is what Ron Paul‘s national defense proposal is all about. And with America he means all Americans, not just the elite. If elected President, Ron Paul will continue his efforts to secure our borders, safely bring our troops back home, and finally overhaul the intelligence apparatus in cooperation with intelligence professionals rather than political opportunists.

Ron Paul loves America. He is one of the very few true patriots left in Washington who are actively working on protecting our freedoms, our lives and our dignity.

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917 responses to “Foreign Policy”

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  4. JVP

    I like how all the comments that get a low rating are taken out. Talk about an open mind.

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  6. african mango

    Okay, I need to have this off from my chest. People, Never address a women or perhaps young daughter with “Fraulein” in Germany. Costly old retired word and is also kinda insulting in Germany today.

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    1. A Guy

      What would you say? I thought Mädchen was more of a little girl than a woman? And I’ve heard that calling someone Frau can be insulting because you’re saying they look old.

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  7. Citizen

    MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS!

    AVOID ENTANGLEMENTS

    DEFEND OUR BORDERS

    LET THEM DEFEND THEMSELVES, WE ARE NOT THE WORLD’S POLICE

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  9. James Pendley

    I started to identify as a “liberal” because Democrats were the only political figures protesting the invasion of Iraq. Even at 17 I knew we were being lied into that war. But it’s becoming clear that our system, both mainstream Republicans and mainstream Democrats, will continue to serve the financial interests of those who get them elected by waging war overseas and manipulating the people they claim to represent. Even on social issues, where Democrats say legislate this way and Republicans say the opposite, there is a third option that no one but Ron Paul is talking about on the national stage- get the federal government out of the nanny business and back to the business of protecting the freedom of the people within its borders.

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  12. Jonathan

    Ron Paul is often right about foreign policy. Countries get mad at us for mettling in their business. It is a side effect of war. Gangs also get mad at police for mettling. The question isn’t if mettling makes people mad, it is if the benefits of mettling outway the cons.

    Should we mettle when there is a corrupt dictator who has a lot of power? Should we mettle when terrorist hit our buildings with planes? Should we mettle when countries threaten to close a straight where the majority of the world get’s it’s oil. Should we mettle when a Leader of a country open says he wants to wipe another country off the face of the map? Should we mettle if this same country is trying to build nuclear weapons?

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    1. Freidlon7

      No the question is where did you learn to spell meddling?

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      1. johng

        The same place he learned to spell outweigh, in a U.S. school. Evidently they were too busy meddling to test his mettle.

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    2. Victor

      The question you should be asking is, “Why are there terrorists in the first place? Is it because of Islam or is it because people have not learned how to overcome evil with good, hate with love?” Maybe acting like grownups in a responsible fashion would be more effective against terrorism. How can you stop senseless killing with more senseless killing?

      Minding our own business and focusing on strengthening our country here at home is the right thing to do and probably the only way to stop world war 3 and the total annihilation of the human race.

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  13. Jake

    Kony 2012

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    1. Jake Schmidt

      I could go for a Kony dog about now, with some ketchup, mustard, relish, mmmm….. Sounds like lunch.

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  15. Brian Young

    There is a really good Ron Paul music video called “Ron Paul will lead the way music video”. It is well worth 3:51 of your time. Pass it in to others if you like it.

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  16. Jake Schmidt

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    1. Brian Young

      If it wasn’t so terribly sad, I would find an ironic humor in the fact that you declare as fact the supposed behavior of an ostrich (sticking its head in the sand) – which is untrue – as parallel with the foreign policy of Paul, who is as realistic in his approach to foreign affairs as you can get. Bottom line is this – we can’t afford to be there. We don’t have the money! We are broke and in major debt. Coarse you can continue to keep your head in the media generated sand of twisted propaganda. But I would rather you join with the rest of us patriots as we work to restore America to Constitutional freedom.

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      1. Terry Rasmussen

        @Brian Young…It’s spelled course, not coarse! No wonder you support Ron Paul. You don’t have the good sense to spell much less vote! Ron Paul is the Ross Perot of this election, a bonafide nutcase, without enough delegates to barely even be in the race. Give it up, idiot. There is no way Paul will ever get the delegates to win. And thank God. This is your Savior? The person who doesn’t believe in the Military or Defense? So who is going to protect us from Iran, North Korea, Syria, etc? Will he do it with harsh language and peace signs? LOL Go away, really. Just go. You might as well waste your vote on Obumma!

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    2. Cliff Bernzweig

      The ostrich is a tall, alert animal who can see danger from a long way off and avoid it. It is not overly aggressive, but when confronted directly can eviscerate with a single blow from its powerful claws. The turtle is an animal who can sense danger from afar and withdraw its most vulnerable parts behind an almost impenetrable defense. I think you’ve kind of hit the nail on the head with your animal analogies.

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      1. Jake Schmidt

        You’re right; ostrichs can see danger from a long way off and run away from it. The only problem is, the danger doesn’t go away; sooner or later, it will find the ostrich again. Then the ostrich will flee yet again. This danger, rather than being dealt with, becomes a problem for all animals, because the ostrich did nothing but run from it and did not confront it. Turtles are slow, and lack any form of retaliation. If threatened, then it only hides in its shell and hopes that the danger will pass on to another animal. Thank you, I do agree that my analogies are spot-on.

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        1. Victor

          “Why are there terrorists in the first place? Is it because of Islam or is it because people have not learned how to overcome evil with good, hate with love?” Maybe acting like grownups in a responsible fashion would be more effective against terrorism. How can you stop senseless killing with more senseless killing?

          Minding our own business and focusing on strengthening our country here at home is the right thing to do and probably the only way to stop world war 3 and the total annihilation of the human race.

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      1. Queen of Pelosi-land

        Dennis Johnson, you are a straight talker who says it how it is. You have my vote.

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  17. Margaret

    The war has proven to be of no use to bringing peace to nations that thrive on hatred & killing.
    Bring our troops home, secure our borders, issue a firm warning and let them go at each other the way they have been since only God knows. Let them self-destruct.

    As far as foreign aid cut it off. Yes, I feel for people, but they really get little of what we give. Put stringent requirements on any aid and pull it if they fail to obey. Unbundle foreign aid. One size does not fit all.

    Pull out of the United Nations – a group of ruthless, ethic-lacking dictators. Keep that money and energy at home. Give them an ultimatum: Keep your nose out of our country. Do not invite them here.

    Do all that, close our borders, send illegals home and clean up the Federal Reserve(oust the World Bank), find a way to put us bank on a gold or silver standard so our money is really worth something, balance the budget, do away with school precincts, distribute the money to the worst schools first to raise their standards and condition of their schools and axe teacher tenure. Make sure every classroom has text books to go around and toilet paper which is lacking in schools like in Alabama. Shameful.

    Then start to downsize government and figure a way to get people off welfare through training by industries not government. Subsidize them while they do that – if they quite they no longer get help.

    This is the beginning of taking America back.

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    1. Queen of Pelosi-land

      Alabama has enough toilet paper, so lay off, Margaret.

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  18. Steven Fittro

    Religions have been fighting for millennia, each one fighting each other. Even across the same religious beliefs i.e. Christians, Protestants and Catholics. To say that there is only one form of terrorism or one type of group of terrorist, means that you have a very closed mind. Terrorism takes many forms, from any type of person. While the Road Rage form of terrorism is a small drop of water in an Olympic size pool, there are other larger scale forms. Biker gangs, mafia, drug cartels to Al Qaida, IRA to KKK, NEO-Nazi groups. All of which, are located and operate right here in These United States of America, however, the only “known” terrorist group actively hunted down is Al Qaida. That is why religion should never play a part in politics, if someone gets mad at someone else for desecrating their religion in some fashion and that someone happens to be President or a member of Congress lives are put at risk needlessly.

    This is the United States of America, not Mexico, Canada, Britain or any other country for that matter. Rather than importing goods that do not support, expand, enrich or allows OUR economy to flourish and prosper, stop those imports. All manufacturing, production and distribution should be American made when possible; this should not include novelty or produce.

    To have no income tax and only have excise taxes and tariffs, such as one example stated above; if I didn’t buy my sailboat because I didn’t have the sufficient amount of funds available, then where in the world, would all of this magical money going to come from to fund the government? Even if there were only 10 people working in the entire government, I would still have to buy the sailboat to pay at least 1 person.

    Illegal immigration is costing this country more than the so called drug wars. 1) If there was a job available for you and it was the only job that was available or put into a different perspective it only paid $7.00 an hour, would you take that job or would you forego it in hopes of “Finding something” better? Well, the Illegal immigrant isn’t asking that question, he or she is asking when can I start. That creates the “aire” that Americans are too lazy in wanting to find work. It’s a J. O. B., take the damn thing then worry about finding something better. 2) Does anyone really know the total cost of paying for the education, healthcare, welfare, housing, etc? The absolute total cost of illegal immigration not in years, but in months, weeks, DAYS even? No one knows and no one will ever know, because no one is allowed to ask immigration status. That needs to change, immigration reform will not help alleviate our current situation, because then and only then it be “legal” and we would also encourage others to do the same, with the same results.

    We have current legislation already in place which needs updating, granted, but it would put us back on the path that we were 25 years ago. Allowing non-US citizens the right to vote is the same as letting Hugo Chavez dictate how this country is run, non citizens should not have the right to vote in this country.

    Politicians should not be allowed to determine their paychecks, government of the people, for the people, BY the people. Politicians should have a probationary period just like the rest of America, just because they work in Washington does not make them any better than anybody else. They should also receive pay raises just like everyone else, determined on how well they perform their jobs according to that of the people. (If you think that’s far-fetched, it’s no more than what Ron Paul proposes). Politicians should also have to pay for their services, such as food, transportation, lodging, etc.

    A good foreign policy is always based on a good home policy, case in point; there are millions in the US who are homeless. Yet, I don’t see anyone Ron Paul included, with any real direct solutions in fixing those issues. Most want to put all of the homeless into one great big institution, as if most are suffering from psychological problems. There are a lot that are, while a lot more are victims of circumstances, so why not identify who needs the most amount help, what kind of help is needed and where best to provide that help. We should start fixing our problems at home, before attempting to believe that we can fix another countries problems. Which by the way,

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    1. The Berenstein Bear

      I’m sorry, maybe I misread your post, but it looks to me like you repeatedly said “I like turtles.” For that reason alone, I thumbed up your post.

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  19. Steven Fittro

    Sheep, sheeple really how about instead of insulting other people and blindly following a lunatic you should do your research and find real solutions to the problems and issues in our country.

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  20. Steven Fittro

    is not our responsibility, it is their country, not ours. Our military bases that are located in other countries, should be held to the highest accountability as if it were here in the US. The same goes for our troops, Abu Ghirab was an insult to America itself, as well as the conditions inside of Walter Reed Army hospital, were absolutely abhorable and everyone involved with both should feel guilt of the highest order. That being said however, the US should never bow down to any other country for any reason, nor should any other country bow down to us. We should above and beyond all else defend ourselves, we cannot and should not let another country dictate to us what we should or shouldn’t do.

    Global warming whether it is happening or not, it doesn’t matter, we’ve already done irreparable damage to Mother Earth. The only thing we can do is find renewable resource alternatives to oil, coal, nuclear and other earth sources. Brazil is planning on a dam that will be the 3rd largest in the world; Brazil is home to one of the largest tropical rainforests in the world. But, no one really cares, just tear it up and just be done with it, just like there is an oil lake in Venezuela that Texaco was supposed to clean but didn’t. Rather than clean up all of these Superfund sites, just leave them so all of that crap can seep into the soil, water sheds and all that. Who needs to eat right? There’s always GRAS or GMO corn, or other veggies, let’s not forget about those same things that are fed to livestock or things that NORMAL people eat. Whether you’re a vegetarian or carnivore, you’re still affected by the same things, including deforestation. I suppose no one remembers the Dustbowl of America, wait I don’t either, I wasn’t born yet. However, I read history, and history has a nasty habit of repeating itself. So you can either believe in global warming or not, but I’d rather not be glowing in the dark in a few years, you can if you want.

    If no one is guaranteed healthcare, medical, mental or otherwise then why would doctors out of the goodness of their hearts provide free care when there’d be no money in it for them. Once we fix the immigration issues, such as Medicare, welfare, TANIF, etc. the power of the HMO’s, PPO’s, the “heath” insurance companies should be removed. One doctor shouldn’t have to cost 1000 times more than another just because of the name or location, except where the location is based on a cost of living increase. Doctors should not be able to regulate, govern or police themselves; they literally hold lives in their hands. Everything in the US costs allot more than it would in any other country, Pharmaceuticals is no exception, even when it is made here in the US and exported to another country.

    Abortion is legal in the US, and it IS a women’s right to choose. If anyone here, including Ron Paul believes he or she has a right to judgment over another person’s body then you’ve surpassed your human qualities and entered into GODLYNESS and you can do whatever it is that you want. However, it is my opinion that life begins at the moment conception occurs, and that any abortion that happens after a certain moment in time, in the life of the child is only one thing and that is murder. That is my belief, but again I do not have the right to hold over the women who chooses to have an abortion.

    Gay / lesbian marriage in my belief is equally a person’s right to choose and again, if you believe you have the right to hold judgment over another person’s body then you’ve surpassed your human qualities and entered into GODLYNESS and you can do whatever it is that you want. Marriage between any two consenting adults of any gender should be left up to those adults and them alone. As long your rights do not impugn, expunge, render null, put asunder, limit or deny the rights of another in the daily processes of your life. Just because someone thinks it is immoral, unclean or against any religious views does not make it wrong, if it doesn’t stop you in what you believe. If you were forced to have some sort of sex with a person of the same sex, then yes it is wrong. If you are living next to a gay or lesbian couple, you don’t have to interact with them. This can be equated to racism that does happen throughout our country, and happens all the time.

    The Constitution of the United States

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    Oh and one more thing Ron Paul is a racist, the fact that he is saying that a business owner can and should hire who they want regardless of race and the law verifies that fact. If a business owner hires only white people, then would he also be allowed to say who he wants as customers? That is a form of segregation, legalized segregation.

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    1. Dennis Johnson

      Boy, are you a long winded asshole.

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  22. Jay Everett

    If Ron Paul is right about foreign policy, that they attack us because of our meddling in their business, then why do Muslims day in and day out attack one another? Why did Hitler do what he did? Why did Japan attack us?

    I like Ron Paul, I think there is a lot of truth to his “Blow Back” theory and like his ideas. But there needs to be some balance to foreign policy. Sometimes preemptive action is necessary. I’m not in any way advocating that we keep and itchy trigger finger all the time. But at the same time I AM NOT willing to take a “Wait until you’re shot at” to approach either.

    Maybe I’m misunderstanding his position. If I am, someone help me out.

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    1. rich

      I am not a history buff, but I am pretty sure there is a story about hitler as a young man vowing revenge to those who invaded his country in ww1 and osama bin laden has a similar story with some of the things that went on with the politics of america and the middle east when he was younger. when you commit acts of violence in other peoples homes some of them may not be so forgiving. It may not be a wise reaction to live an eye for an eye, but for some it where they get there passion for hate from.

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      1. Jake Schmidt

        Funny, because I recall Germany doing all the invading during WW1. And I never new Osama was capable of telling stories; gather ’round, everyone.

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  23. Chris

    Just so you folks operating the website are aware, the YouTube link on your Foreign Policy page (titled: You Like Ron Paul, Except on Foreign Policy), is directed to a video that has been taken down due to copyright issues. Just thought you might want to know and do something about it. Good luck in the primaries!

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  25. James Barrs

    JGuy you are spot on in your assessment of the situation. However, I have a different solution to the problem of Islamic terrorism. They are indoctrinated, almost from birth, to be willing to lay down their lives if their Imam tells them to. They have been brainwashed to believe that Paradise is waiting with unlimited virgins to deflower & unlimited quantities of wine to swizel down. Drinking alcohol is forbidden on earth but perfectly ok in Paradise. They have the belief of Paradise & the threat of death is not enough to deter them. So, the solution to our problem is to take Paradise away from them. They justify their actions through the Koran. Use the Koran to take away their promised Paradise. When an Islamic terrorist is captured he (or she) have no rights under the US Constitution. Upon conviction by a military tribunal the terrorist should be sentenced to Life imprisonment with no possibility of parole. Then their right hand should be amputated so that they can feed themselves with the same hand that they clean their rear ends with. All food eaten after that would be unclean. Next, before sunrise they should be led, by the beard & on film, to a prison van & under military guard to the nearest pork slaughterhouse or farrowing house. They should be forced to labor there EVERY DAY FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE. They should stay there each & every day until 1/2 hour after sunset. Supply t6hem with a prayer rug so they can face Mecca & do their required prayers every day. Once an Islamist is unclean he remains unclean until the next sunset. Never let him be clean again for the rest of their life. Upon the terrorists death, a hole should be dug in his place of labor & the bottom & sides liberraly lined with Hog leavings. Then he should be buried in the hog remains & if Allah wants him he can dig through the pig crap & get him. These actions should be filmed & sent to the Al Jazeera network daily with a reminder that we no longer execute Islamic terrorists but punish ALL OF THEM this way. There are plenty of pig pens around the world to accomodate them. It won’t take many of them before the rest refuse to attack America. Of course, we would have the ACLU breathing down our necks about the inhumane treatment of the “freedom fighters” that we were treating so unfairly but they are at their best when ignored anyway. Nothing else seems to deter them so use their own religion against them. They certainly use it against us.

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    1. Don

      you are insane that would be the worst possible thing america could do. violating someone’s natural rights in that manner is a mistake and a slippery slope until your humanity leaves you completely. Don’t let your outrage at someone else’s actions cause you to lose sight of what is the right way to deal with your problems.

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      1. The Berenstein Bear

        If outrage causes you to lose sight of the “right way to deal with your problems”, then simply put on glasses and carry on.

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    2. Brian Floyd

      I love it. FTW! Semper Fi!

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    3. WorldMinded

      I think you may be overstepping what we as Americans should believe. We believe that as human beings we deserve certain inalienable rights correct? It is true that freedom of religion isn’t labeled as one of those, but don’t you think it is a bit rash and unreasonable to think that it is O.K. to one, cut off someone’s hand, two, force them to do something that we, as Americans, wouldn’t do? If we preach “freedom of religion” then why would you take that away from someone. True that terrorist isn’t an American, but why not stop thinking about America as a location and start thinking about it as an idea? IF, we as American citizens started practicing, supporting, and living what our constitution says, then the United States will fix itself and the ideas of the nation will spread. It won’t take force or military occupation. The saying “a smile is contagious” applies, if we shine as a model nation, who wouldn’t want to be more like us? That is what Ron Paul wants, us to be the model nation, lead by example, show the WORLD that we can support ourselves entirely. It has to start with each and every individual citizen. We need to stop just living IN America, and start LIVING America, the ideal, as AMERICANS.

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      1. Victor

        You could not have said it better. Thanks

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    4. John E. Rachal

      I am sick and tired of listening to the Arabic-bashing rhetoric by certain
      individuals on this website. It sounds like a script right from the Zionists.
      Fact: Islam is no enemy or threat to Judaism. I am referring to Orthodox
      and Ultra-Orthodox Judaism; you know, the ones that practice the 613
      points of the law of Moses from the Torah. Conservative and Reformed
      Judaism is not even recognized by Orthodox Judaism as Judaism, period!
      All of the atheistic and internationalist “Jews” are nowhere to be found in
      Orthodox Judaism; they are only to be found in the Conservative and
      Reformed Synagogues. This is because they are Zionists. Zionism =
      fascism. JUDAISM and Zionism are diametrically opposed to one
      another. They cannot exist side by side. How do I know this? Go to
      these Jewish Orthodox websites and see for yourselves:

      http://www.netureikarta.org
      http://www.jewsnotzionists.org
      http://www.israelversusjudaism.org

      The real Jews of this world are the Orthodox Jews, not the Zionist
      “Jews”. The Orthodox Jews do not recognize the so-called Zionist
      State of Israel. They say that the holy name of Israel/Jacob is being
      dragged through the mud by the Zionists. They also believe that the
      Jews are not entitled to a homeland ANYWHERE until the
      Messiah comes. Anyway, the Orthodox Jews have no problem
      whatsoever with Islam; check out the above referenced websites and
      you will see.

      Louisiana Creole

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  26. Martin OB

    Hello,

    I’m a big Ron Paul fan from Spain. I agree with him on everything except in foreign policy, especially the moral reasoning behind it. I think there are some many ways to make it sound more fair and realistic to the average people, which I don’t think would change them fundamentally. Here are some ideas which for what it may be worth.

    First, when people disagree with you on foreign policy, it doesn’t mean they reject the Golden Rule. The Golden Rule means to treat other nations as America would like to be treated. I guess what most Americans want is to be treated with fairness, and I think America has not been particularly unfair to any nation, at least not more than anyone else. During WWII all nations were doing horrible things to each other. Then the war was over, Japan and Germany accepted to be friends with America, and America corresponded with friendship and respect. During the cold war the USSR wast meddling with other countries, if not outright launching attacks to expand their empire, so America also had to do some of that to protect her allies. Then the cold war was over and America left Russia alone. Other nations should take their example and stop making threats against America and her allies, or supporting terrorism, which is in itself an act of war.

    The Miliary bases:

    They are expensive, but presumably they help protect America’s allies. Well, then, they can be either sold or leased to the allies. They keep protected but they pay for it, not Americans.

    But wait, what if the allies run out of money because of all those bases? Well, with Ron Paul’s economic policy Americans will save a lot of money. Those who want to help the allies can send some money on their own, either individually or through some voluntary organized effort. And what if those allies don’t have enough soldiers? Well, they can pay American private contractors. It would be American weapons, American soldiers and American money, but none of it by government decisions.

    Iran’s oil embargo:

    That’s essentially a boycott. A boycott is not an act of war. People have a right to buy their oil wherever they want. Let the people decide individually. Instead of the government deciding which countries to buy oil from, let individual refineries tell the government how much oil they want to buy, and from which countries. Some of them will advertise the fact they don’t buy oil from Iran, and some Gas stations may sell non-Iran oil.

    The borders:

    Seal them. I think the best and cheapest way is with vigilance UAVs. Like the one which was apparently hacked by Iran, but without that vulnerability. By the way, that’s completely independent from the immigration policy, which should be about *legal* immigration.

    Facing nuclear threats:

    Keep the research going in ABM systems. It’s one of the few military technologies which are strictly about defense, as opposed to defense by retaliation. Keep sharing intelligence and techonology with allies. Keep a good network of spies to know what’s going on.

    Killer drones:

    Keep the research to make them smaller and more precise, so there’s less of a risk of killing unarmed civilians. Maybe some day they can get into buildings where the terrorists are, and use bullets instead of missiles. That would be like US Navy SEALs, but without the risk for Americans, and hence much cheaper.

    I think Ron Paul could easily win the nomination and the election with a solid foreign policy approach. I hope he does.

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    1. Dave O

      very well said Martin. I agree on all your points, they’re all more than reasonable. I also find it fascinating that one of the most in-tune people on this message board is from Spain. Props to you, and thank you for your support of Ron Paul.

      I wish more Americans were able to think of these issues with the same amount of sanity as you do.

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    2. Barack Obama

      Well spoken, for a Spaniard that is.

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  29. fellowcivicskid

    Civicskid Keep it up! Don’t just keep it to yourself either, take it to school and get your friends fired up! Unfortunately war with terrorists is not like a game of “Empire Earth” where people come over in ships and storm the beaches (if it were we’d be in business). Instead terrorists use tactics like we have seen with 911 and suicide bombers. Now Iran is on the verge of developing Nuclear Bombs. It is these cowardly tactics that mean we have to keep our troops overseas to maintain the peace. Also we have a duty to defend our allies. Ron Paul in my opinion does not seem to understand this. Dont take my word for it. Do your own research and always question everything.

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    1. john lockes ghost

      @fellowcivicskid The “war” on terror is nothing more than an invention of the bush administration to gain undeserved power. Terrorism, as you pointed out, is a tactic used by an entity such as, for example, Al Qaeda to instill fear in an adversary by inflicting the most goulish and bloody damage possible. It is a criminal act and should be dealt with via criminal procedures and not by war.

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      1. JGuy07

        @john lockes ghost@fellowcivicskid This has to be the most IGNORANT post I’ve seen on this thread, that’s saying alot! “War on Terror” IS NOT AN INVENTION! You can’t put terrorist groups/members/affiliates through criminal proceedings either, that is also a stupid statement. Do you have any idea of what could happen if we were to put high value targets in criminal proceedings in federal court? No, you obviously don’t. We would have to give them ALL EVIDENCE against them, which would include classified material of intel gathered over many years of terror groups and everything involved with them. That would be a HUGE mistake. Second, those involved in terror groups have a totally different mindset than us or those who think similar to us. You will never be able to bring them in to a court session, there have already been numerous enemy combatants which have taken their own lives so they don’t give any information. There are numerous terror groups around the world, only few of which intend to target Americans. Terrorists are not seen as a formal military, so they do not fall under the Geneva Convention. That is why they’re referred to as ‘enemy combatants’ and now POW’s. Giving them liberties and OUR rights is the worst ideal ever. You will never sit down and solve anything ‘diplomatically’ with a terror organization.

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        1. JGuy07

          @john lockes ghost@fellowcivicskid ****NOT pow’s.

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        2. john lockes ghost

          Given that a terrorist would live to see their day in court, we have no problem with trying high value targets in criminal proceedings in federal court, witness the trying of members of criminal cartels. The people best suited to pursue international terrorists are our military’s special forces and I leave it up to them as to their disposition.

          As to my statement, I don’t think you really understand the problem, but have fallen for the mysterious cloak of national security where we sweep all things that we would rather not air.

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          1. Joseph Biden

            I understand the problem, and you, sir, are part of it. Boy, allow me to educate you. Terrorism is not a criminal offense, and those who argue that it is, well, I refer to them as bleeding heart liberals – in other words, dinner. You can kick and scream all you want, but the astoundingly clear, logical, anyone-with-half-a-brain-can-realize conclusion is that 9/11 was not a criminal act; it was a declaration of war on the USA by the pork-fearing, towelheaded, radical Muslims living in the wastelands of the world. Son, how anyone can think that terrorism should be treated as a criminal act is far beyond me, but then again, maybe I’ve just grown out of touch with today’s youth.

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          2. ISEESTUPIDPEOPLE

            There were 1300 soldiers from Japan who were put to death for the acts committed against POW’s, water boarding being one of the main complaints. A national tribunal sentences them to death…Now the United States has done the same acts in which these 1300 soldiers were put to death. We as a nation may need to protect ourselves but we do not need to stoop to the same level as the terrorists and other countries in order to handle it. We have entirely too many foreign bases strung out everywhere. Strength comes from within..When we are spread out so thin it makes us vulnerable and by people saying … oh we need to have this for national security, I say hog wash…If there was a real threat of terrorists then why haven’t they secured our boarders to protect us? Torturing people in camps 100′s of miles away will do absolutely nothing if anyone can walk right into our country anytime they wish….

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    2. Tucci78

      @fellowcivicskid “…we have to keep our troops overseas to maintain the peace. Also we have a duty to defend our allies. Ron Paul in my opinion does not seem to understand this.”

      And you’d be wrong about that last, too. Dr. Paul not only understands the nature of our unsupportable “We’re the Cops of the World!” excuse for a legitimate foreign policy but so do his critics.

      I could only wish that some technologically adroit supporter of Dr. Paul’s campaign would apply voice stress analysis measures to the statements of Republican establishment politicians when they condemn Ron Paul’s appreciation of how “blowback” figures in our government’s relationships with the kleptocracies and Islamofascist regimes in the Sandbox.

      Critters like Willard Mittney and the Ayatollah Santorum and Newt (“zipper control problem”) Gingrich sure as hell know that what they’re pushing in this regard are pure lies.

      Those foreign governments with whom the politicians of our own federal government have entered into treaties of alliance, being more immediately threatened by circumstances to act for their own security and the protection of the people they nominally represent, have even greater reason to exert themselves in all reasonable ways to create and maintain the means for their defense, right?

      Every treaty of alliance is a kind of contract, with obligations imposed upon all participants in order to gain the benefits specified. There’s a definite “quid pro quo” in all such agreements.

      Okay, so what are we Americans getting from “our allies” in return for the considerable expenditures of blood and treasure we’re providing? And what are these Swiss-bank-account-enriching kleptocrats putting into the pot to secure Uncle Sam’s superpower military might in their support?

      Let us inquire – specifically – about what our interests really are in these Third World hell-holes, how these “allies” supposedly do OUR INTERESTS any service, and what our government thugs have been achieving (apart from the ruinous expenditure of our wealth) in creating and maintaining an American empire all over the world.

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      1. JGuy07

        @Tucci78@fellowcivicskid Good points, however, the term “mitigation” can be used in several topics you mentioned as well as referencing treaties, allies, and what being involved in third world countries does for us. Personally I wish we could keep the isolationist policy, however it is not possible in the world we currently live in. This has been a known fact for decades now, stemming from one of our greatest leaders, F.D.R. We can not sit around and only listen to what is going on in the world around us, in order to be safe and secure we must be active.

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        1. Tucci78

          @JGuy07@fellowcivicskid – “Personally I wish we could keep the isolationist policy, however it is not possible in the world we currently live in.”

          I do NOT hanker for isolationism. There are definitely (much as I dislike the word) collective American interests beyond our territorial boundaries, and we must have an active as well as reactive foreign policy to provide for those interests.

          That understood, however, we need to institute an ongoing process akin to “zero-based budgeting” in all our foreign policy formulations and actions, keeping our eyes on the consideration of each such policy element as to how it serves our national interests.

          Or does damage to those interests. Or just does us no damned good at all.

          It is profoundly wrong to adhere – blindly, unthinkingly, without re-examination – to commitments made by our retired or dead politicians years and decades ago. Circumstances change, knowledge grows, we achieve better understanding of what can and will serve us as a republic.

          In the very WORST sense, our political conservatives refuse to recognize these plain facts of reality, and fail all the goddam time – in the words of the fighter pilot – “to check their six.”

          This kind of cement-headed lack of situational awareness, this persistent obstinacy sliding over into the obtuse, is INFURIATING. They refuse to “read and react” worth a damn, and they turn our national foreign policy into the equivalent of a lead life preserver fasted upon the U.S. body politic.

          As for “…one of our greatest leaders, F.D.R.”….

          Hoo, boy. You do NOT want to go there. Especially not in an online forum supporting the presidential campaign of a candidate who got into politics as the result of studying the work of the Austrian School political economics.

          Suffice it to say that what you think you know about F.D.R. is quite precisely equivalent to what was taught to good little Hitler Jugend in the Third Reich about their Beloved Fuhrer back in the 1930s.

          You’ve been suckered, and I don’t think you’re going to like learning just how thoroughly that’s been done to you.

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        2. JGuy07

          @Tucci78@fellowcivicskid I can without a doubt shed my opinion on a forum with political ass blowers and not care for the feedback. FDR had his flaws yes, but for the time and situation he was exactly what the country needed. This same scenario happens during every presidency, different men are needed for the times. Sadly, I am filled with pure disgust on how our political system works and is being ran. The constant bickering of the majority two party system will be the end to our nation in the long run. Look at every election period and how each individual changes to attempt to win over the people. Politics, as well as forums such as this, is nothing about running our nation and leading its’ people. It is simply who has their head further up a politician’s ass and for what questionable cause and reason. Rep blame Dem for problems, Dem blames rep. It is an EQUAL shit storm thanks to both these parties. A person always seems to wander away from the much needed and common sense viewpoint and fall right in line with the rest of their party in fear of being shunned, losing a vote, or their position within government. Career politicians have ruined this nation. Regardless of your opinion, this is mine. Regardless of the outcome to this upcoming election, similar to those past, nothing will be solved or change for the greater good. Why, because neither party will allow for the change. Like I said, even if it is the common sense and much needed directional move for our nation one group will always stand in way of the other. We will never pull away from old useless ties, we will never correct our own mistakes, we will never finally lay out a plan to correct our money mistakes, we will never bounce back.

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        3. Tucci78

          @JGuy07@fellowcivicskid – “FDR had his flaws yes, but for the time and situation he was exactly what the country needed.”

          So “the country needed” to be dragged through three more depressions and into what amounted to two different wars fought simultaneously?

          I’m rather fond of the late Murray Rothbard’s writings on the subject of *America’s Great Depression* (available online in its entirety at http://mises.org/rothbard/agd.pdf ), not to mention the more recent works of Thomas Woods (author of *Meltdown!* in 2009 and co-author of *Who Killed the Constitution? The Fate of American Liberty from World War I to George W. Bush* in 2008) which include an online essay (at http://mises.org/daily/3056 ) discussing FDR’s Emergency Banking Act of 1933, which – among other things – criminalized the private American citizen’s possession of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates while at the same time summarily cancelling all gold clauses in public and private contracts.

          The average American victim of government schooling today (when the legal right to own gold had been restored more than thirty years ago and we all know it’s a Damned Good Idea to get and keep your hands on gold and other precious metals as insurance against inflation) will get a puzzled expression on his phiz and go “WTF? What the hell did the wise and glorious FDR do that for?”

          Read Dr. Woods above-cited article, why don’tcha?

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        4. Tucci78

          @JGuy07@fellowcivicskid — Continued –

          FDR – that paralytic patroon putz – had a boatload more than mere “flaws.”

          Late last year, the history of World War Two written by former president Herbert Hoover almost 50 years ago was finally published (*Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover’s Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath*). It recently got some comments by Pat Buchanan (see http://lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan198.html ) and that little essay is REALLY worth reading and discussion here.

          It’s now condemned as “conspiracy theory!” to speak about how the U.S. Pacific Fleet’s movement to an advanced base in the Territory of Hawaii was a deliberate set-up to get those obsolescent battleships Taranto’d by the Japanese the way the Royal Navy had nailed the Italian battle line at their moorings the year before.

          Uh-huh. Totally unjustified speculation. Nothing to see here. Move along to the FDR Memorial and genuflect respectfully every time you see his name mentioned.

          Ain’t that little statue of Fala just TOO cute for words?

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      2. John E. Rachal

        To: Tucci78

        Hello, the United Fascist States of America is BANKRUPT, thanks
        to the ENDLESS wars of the Federal Reserve System!!!!!!! We
        cannot sustain any longer the wars of profit for the banksters
        (the central banks of the world). Please don’t tell me that we
        have to continue to be the world’s policemen. Our military
        men and women are coming back mutilated from all the
        endless wars of the banks. Its no wonder TPTB are terrified
        of the battle-hardened veterans that are returning home!
        The troops are actually aware of what is going on; that is why
        71% of the American military personnel support Dr. Ron Paul!

        2012 Dr. RON PAUL/Judge ANDREW NAPOLITANO 2012

        Louisiana Creole

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  31. xstortionist

    I can’t stand when Politicians read from a piece of paper. Take that shit out of the debates and your speeches and be true with your words. Speak from your heart for crying out loud!

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  32. JGuy07

    I thought one of RP’s positions was for open free markets?

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  33. RW Hensiek

    your 12 yrs old? You well informed for your age. I’m sure your parents are very proud of you.

    Stay informed young man, you and people your age are the future for this country.

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  34. Civicskid

    If we keep chasing Al quida around we will be spending money. We should just reinforce are borders and let them come to us. We will just counter attack them with are army. The soldiers deserve to come home and see there families. We should only leave a small amount of people in Iran, Irag etc. Im learning this stuff I am 12 but kind of understand this stuff. I would be glad to leaner more form you guys.

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  35. RW Hensiek

    I would like to hear your opinion on foreign aid, and your reasoning for sending money to wealthy countrys while taxpayers go with-out the things that we give other countrys.

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