Foreign Policy

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Look, we are bankrupt as a nation. Our army marches in Chinese boots, while our air force flies on Saudi oil. We cannot continue to enforce a Pax Americana while our southern border allows illegals and terrorists to pour into our country. And we certainly shouldn’t be footing the defense bill for countries with whom our industries compete in the global marketplace. Bring our soldiers home. Secure America first.

What is Blowback?

If you hit someone and kill their family, they will hate you and probably hit you back in the future.

That’s what blowback is all about. It seems like such a simple concept, but many of Ron Paul’s opponents for the Presidency vehemently denied its validity.

They proclaim that what our military does abroad has no effect on how the citizens of the world feel towards us. The 9/11 terrorists hated our wealth and freedom so intensely that they sacrificed their lives to prove it? (Of course, our government bombing their countries, propping up their dictators and supplying their enemies with money and weapons had nothing to do with it…)

Instead of securing our borders, we’ve been planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression. Our military is spread thin all across the planet, yet we remain involved in dangerous power plays that unnecessarily put the lives of our soldiers at risk. And we brazenly squandered the wealth of our nation as if there were no tomorrow.

It doesn’t make any sense unless you consider increasing the profits of the military-industrial complex to be in the “national interest”, no matter what the cost to the rest of us may be.

America first. That is what Ron Paul‘s national defense proposal is all about. And with America he means all Americans, not just the elite. If elected President, Ron Paul will continue his efforts to secure our borders, safely bring our troops back home, and finally overhaul the intelligence apparatus in cooperation with intelligence professionals rather than political opportunists.

Ron Paul loves America. He is one of the very few true patriots left in Washington who are actively working on protecting our freedoms, our lives and our dignity.

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917 responses to “Foreign Policy”

  1. terrie burnside

    my civics teacher hates me for not paying any attention in class.

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  2. SS

    Looking for someone familiar with military vehicles to review this video and tell us what we are looking at:
    http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=11593

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    1. Jeremy

      You are looking at both new and old military vehelices nothing to be alarmed. For they are headed to some place far away. Ie middle east or further east.
      Let us not worry to much as a police state, though it could happen but it wont last to long.
      Actullay a police state will only bring the people closer and they know this.
      Educate yourself and others.

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  3. Gumi

    People misunderstand Ron Paul. They believe that if he becomes president he will take us back to 1776 or the 1888. He knows better than that. Yes, his ideas if implemented will be chaotic. People will not know what to do. But it is only so because over the years we have changed our mindset on what the role of government is. We think the role of government is to educate our kids and build roads. Who was doing this in 1888? or 1775? The people. We’ve grown so lazy and our midset has changed so much the past century or so. If RP is elected I hardly doubt he’ll change everything in ONE day or ONE term. If he is elected the most important thing he will have to do is re-educate the people and remind us who we REALLY are. And in so, begin to take small steps at a time. Such as making SS voluntary instead of enforcing. Maybe start by auditting the fed. withdrawal of troops. If RP gets elected his main purpose will not be to turn America into chaos by just forcing us to drop everything we know about society today. The most important thing will be spreading his message and educating all of us. People bash on Ron Paul but 99% of the people that bash RP do not even have the slightest clue who he is. They hear one thing from media and say “oh he’s a nut”. But if he became president maybe people will listen to him and his reasoning. And maybe… just maybe, one day we can ALL look back as Americans and regret how we lived in the 20th century.

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    1. fred the protectionist

      “We think the role of government is to educate our kids and build roads. ”

      No, neo-Confederates like Ron Paul don’t even think the role of government is to educate or build roads, the Confederate States of America Constitution expressly forbids internal improvements. Libertarians are neo-Confederates.

      »crosslinked«

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  4. Christine

    13 Predictions
    http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/13predictions.pdf

    “The seventh prediction is that much of the war on terrorism will be waged against Americans inside their own country. New laws, international treaties, and executive orders will severely restrict travel, speech, privacy, and the possession of firearms. Americans have consistently rejected these measures in the past, but there will be much less opposition when they are presented in the name of fighting terrorism. Government agencies will demand to know everything about us from our school records, our psychological profiles, our buying habits, our political views, our medical histories, our religious beliefs, the balances in our savings accounts, our social patterns, a list of our friends – everything. Any opposition to these measures will be branded as disruptive of national unity and helpful to terrorism. This will not be unique to America. The same program will be carried out in every nation in what is left of the free world.”

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  5. Ron

    NLE 10-SHUT IT DOWN
    U.N.-SHUT IT DOWN
    FEMA-SHUT IT DOWN
    THE FED-SHUT IT DOWN
    FOREIGN AID-SHUT IT DOWN
    OPEN BORDERS-SHUT IT DOWN
    CORPORATE LOBBY-SHUT IT DOWN
    the time for talk is over now we yell,block,protest and fight.No more immunity when politicians break the law the answer is prosecution and execution.

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    1. Ryan

      Clean slate!…. That is exactly what we need.
      Everything politicians have done in the past hundred years or so has been thoroughly corupted and done for all the wrong reasons.

      End everything and start fresh, with the Constitutin as our framework to rebuild.
      This time, however, we need many levels of checks on the system to prevent robber barons from ever reacquiring power and control.

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  6. Christine

    http://www.freedomfiles.org/mary-book.pdf

    The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace in a continual state of alarm (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing them with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. – H. L. Mencken

    They call them “terrorists” today.

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    1. Forest

      Couldn’t they also be called ‘conspiracy theorists’?

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  7. John Boyd

    What will you do if we are attacked? AGAIN!

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  8. rob

    get over the Illuminati stuff..

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    1. longshotlouie

      Which thread was that on?

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    2. Christine

      We will when they quit using our government as a front, when we get our Republic back in order. We will when freedom rings in the hearts and minds of Americans again! …and not just a dream either, but a reality. We will when we are no longer bailing out big pharma, big corps, big government. We will when the fed and the banks are no longer controlling our economy and way of life, when Ron Paul reaches his goal, which is our goal too, END THE FED. We will when the drumbeat of terrorism and false flags are painful and faded memory of the past. We will when they and those that support them become enlightened, come out from the shadows and admit what destructive things they have been doing to people around the world and to our planet, the planet we all share without ownership. Until then, we will concur and honor what JFK said…

      JFK SPEECH ON SECRET SOCIETIES AND FREEDOM OF THE PRESS
      JFK was our last great president.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlghYpDx0f4

      “We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless CONSPIRACY that relies primarily on covet means (to take what belongs to others) for expanding its sphere of influence, on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice. It is a system that has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine, that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. It’s preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no secret is revealed…”

      He asked the media to expose them.

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  9. Jeff Burkhardt

    I guess I must be ignorant or ridiculously stupid then Andrew, Because a friend of mine has a photo of flight 93 landing at Cleveland International Airport 20 minutes AFTER it crashed in Shanksville Pennsylvania! And I have FAA Radar printouts of both the REAL WTC planes 5 miles away from the World Trade Center! The Pentagon plane landed at Wright Patterson Air Force Base.

    Every Boeing Plane built since 1979 has a remote control “Auto Pilot Over Ride” installed in it. Every country except Germany keeps that system in the Boeing planes they buy. Germany takes them out and installs their own computer for that.
    The controls – all of them, can be over ridden at any time if a terrorist takes over the cockpit of one of our planes, or any other country’s planes. It takes a few minutes to set it up to take over, It not like every airport tower has a joystick sitting there waiting to jump in, but they can be over ridden and be handed off to other military bases as the planes pass over or near military bases.

    I have investigated this because I saw a discovery channel show about how airlines were testing car type airbags in planes. It showed a bunch of crash test dummys and they had a bunch of camera’s on the plane to show the result, They crashed a 747 into the ground at Edwards Air Force base landing gear up. I thought how the hell did they fly that plane into the ground without somebody flying it? So I looked into it. So Andy if you actually believe that our government didn’t have anything to do with 9/11, Then you’re either retarded, stupid or both!! You have to pay attention Andy,

    How did a BBC reporter announce Building 7 collapsing to the ground 23 minutes before it happened, with Building 7 in plain view over her left shoulder still standing as she said it!!!! What caused the 25 explosions in each building after the planes hit nimrod? (An hour later – Jet fuel?) 90% of the jet fuel was gone upon impact. How is it that 12 of the 19 hijackers are still alive and have been interviewed by journalists and news people from almost every country except the United States? Because that will ruin Bush’s and Cheney’s lie Bubba! C’mon Andy follow along, are you with me ?

    Why was there molten metal – still molten and screaming hot in the rubble two weeks later after 9/11? There is only one thing that can do that Andy – That’s Thermite. Thermite doesn’t just fall out of the sky. Thermite has to be put there and ignited intentionally.

    Ron Paul is the best man for President this country has ever had. He’ll be the best leader, make the right decisions and get rid of the shadow government being puppet masters for illegal Kenyan born presidents who have about as much ability to lead the country as Bart Simpson, or maybe I should say OJ Simpson.

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    1. Christine

      Pretty good reporting on 9/11 I’d say…………………our own government is guilty! Trials need to begin and treason for verdicts! Bush, Rice, Cheney et.al. They are guilty and responsible for the 3,000 + deaths of Americans on that day plus all the lives lost in Iraq, Afghanistan (our soldiers and citizens of those countries). When we resolve this, they can just quit with the drumbeat of “terrorist” here and “terrorism” there. It’s been right here at home all along.

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      1. Ian

        Shut the hell up. You stupid conspiracy theorists piss me off to no end. I don’t know why Ron Paul attracts you crazy people but it is annoying. Every post on here has some comment on it about 9/11 was an inside job. Alex Jones makes millions off of stupid people like you.

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        1. longshotlouie

          Is that the best you can do?
          I notice you did not speak to the questions presented.

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        2. Forest

          In addition to being the average Truthers’ IQ, ‘Zero’ also describes the percentage of Engineers/Architects that have signed the petition saying 9/11 was an inside job.

          Petition Supporters as a Percent of ALL Architects and Engineers: ZERO, point, ZERO, ZERO, (wait for it…) ZERO, FIVE, TWO PERCENT (0.000523%).

          Or, another way, the percentage of professionals supporting this insane concept is roughly TWO THOUSAND times closer to ZERO than it is to being a mere ONE PERCENT.

          Engineers (Active) 1,600,000
          Engineers (Retired) 200,000
          Architects (Active) 150,000
          Architects (Retired) 15,000
          Total Population (Domestic): 1,965,000

          Signed Petition: 1,028

          I could include international E/A too, which are allowed to sign the petition, but you get the point.

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        3. Tim Ramsay

          Ian, I empathies with you because I know your struggle. I had the hardest time believing my eyes as I watched Building 7 fall. I watched it over and over. I just couldn’t believe that it was possible for someone to be so blatant and callous. But there it was right before my eyes. All three buildings were professionally demolished. Building 7 was one of the most secure buildings in the world. That means it was an inside job.

          Well, the evidence is there. No reason for me to keep going over it here. My point is the facts are there. You just don’t want to accept them. I understand. It really is unbelievable. But it is also very real and it is upon us at this time to take notice and take positive and responsible action.

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  10. Mitt Romney Wins GOP Presidential Straw Poll - Page 3 - INGunOwners

    [...] apparatus in cooperation with intelligence professionals rather than political opportunists." National Defense | Ron Paul .com [...]

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  11. R C Cameron

    Sir,
    Where are the 50 US Codes? The Country is at war and the Prez wants to drill for oil, so both the EPA , ACLU plus a few others will stand in the way!!!
    sounds like Sabotage to me!!!

    R C Cameron

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  12. Wes Carr

    Jenny Richter: Do you remember that Bin Laden was at one time our ally?
    We sent weapons the Afghan resistance to fight the Russian Army and got
    9-11 in return. We also allied ourselves with the Shah, Saddam and the Saudis
    and all those came back to bite us later. I don’t blame America. I do blame the
    idiots we put in office who keep making the same mistakes over and over.
    As for healthcare, remember LBJ’s “War On Poverty”? What happens when
    people who can’t afford insurance to begin with are fined for not having it?
    The solution is to ELIMINATE every Federal agency that is not listed in the
    Enumerated Powers section of the Constitution or that violates the Bill Of
    Rights. How about taking tax-funded healthcare away from politicians?

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    1. carol

      Most, if not ALL wars today, are somehow tied to zionists. Whether it is to secure secret piplines from the Caspian sea to pump oil for the ROTHSCHILD global oil cartels, or to secure mining dominance throughout Africa for the de Beers/Oppenheimer/Rothschild mining cartels…also jews. As for the oil wars of Iraq, Iran (to be announced soon), well EVERYBODY and their dog knows that was an oil heist. BUT, there was another little caveat not many folks are aware of, and that is that prior to propping up the Shah, the US slash CIA slash jew/italian mafia ran the Iraninan empire before it decided that they had had enough of the Meyer LAnsky crew and booted them out. The same situation was clear in Cuba. In fact all the BIG mob bosses resided in Cuba (close to their casinos to watch the money pouring in). Vegas is exactly the same today. Having worked for the jewish mafia in Las Vegas, I can say that there isn’t a casino on the strip owned by anyone other than the thugs from the Koshanostra. Yep. The lovely zionist jews who control WAshington also synagogalogue with their brothers who control the porn industry in the US. Interestingly enough, the top countries on the US of Israels hatelist are the only three countries in the world without a ROTHSCHILD finger poking out somewhere…Cuba, Iran and Libya. But I digress. Back to war….body parts flying about, brains being fried by strange exposures to unidentified chemicals, suicides and depressions on their return…what we need to do is to list every single senator and congress person who voted for war and see if they have volunteered THEIR kids body parts for the great United States of Israel military occupation of Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea, Columbia, Yemen, Somalia………

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      1. Viiit

        This post is very instructive. It is an excellent example of the terminal brain disease known as “antisemitism”.
        These idiots believe that Jews are behind everything and Israel is the tail waging the USA tail.
        The ill brains never see the contradiction that Israel is controlling a territory 700 times smaller than the Arabs. That this supposedly “almighty” and “expansionist” Israel is is under a huge pressured to give away (what they consider) the cradle of the Jewish civilization. Their ancestral the lands of Judea and Samaria.
        And if that was not enough, they are under a huge pressured to give old half of Jerusalem to their Arab enemies.
        Normal people (not Carol and the other antisemites), would wonder how can it be that such supposedly powerful people as Jews, are not able to take the full control of what they believe is theirs? Could you conceive Arabs giving up Mecca? Could you conceive America trying to pressure Arabs to do share Mecca and Medina with the Jews?
        Normal people may also wander that if America is run by Zionist Jews, then how is it possible that America is giving money and weapons to the Arab enemies of Israel than to Israel: Egypt, Jordan, Palestinian Authority, Lebanon. Not to mention the 20 Billion given to Saudi in exchange for some oil?
        Surely the powerful Zionist could could have prevented that! But of course in the deranged antisemitic brains there is an explanation for everything, for example: “the Zionist Jew are so cunning, they do that because they also control the Saudis, Egypt, etc”, or some other equally stupid explanation.

        I highly recommend to everyone to read Carol’s posts. This will help us to understand worlds oldest and most toxic prejudice: Antisemitism.

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        1. Machine

          You’ve got toys in the attic!!!!

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  13. Christine

    U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade
    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

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  14. BernieEOD

    The Quaran has been around a lot longer then the USA. It is only after 60 years of intervention that we were attacked. Invading them and imposing our gangs, drugs, teen sex, abortion, and other vices upon them will only make things worse.

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    1. Viiit

      Yes, Koran has been around a lot longer than the US.
      And Bernie is mistaken in his claim that it is only “60 years of intervention that we were attacked”.
      Bernie should study the American history and learn that our very first foreign war after the liberation was with the Muslims who attacked us (on the seas) because of none of our fault. They also clearly explained that their attack was consistent with Koran.
      Americans won, and taught the Muhammadans a lesson. But they seem to have forgotten now. Time to teach them again.

      Bernie does not know that Koran is making it mandatory for all Muslims to engage in Jihad: The war of conquest for Allah. He does not know that Koran divides the world into two camps: “The World of Submission” (Those who have already submitted to the Muhammadan law of Sharia) and the (World of Sward), those who have not yet submitted. We happened to live in the second world, and therefore according to the Koran, it is the obligation of the Muslims to wage Jihad on us.
      Now Jihad can be waged in 4 ways: With the sward, with money, with the tung, and with the pen. When Muslims are not strong enough to fight, they use the other three forms of Jihad.
      Lies and deception are essential part of Jihad. Muhammad himself engaged in such lies and therefore it is considered honorable to lie. The Muslims lies have deceived the the so called “progressives”.
      No, America did not start this conflict, it was started 1400 years ago. At the time when Muslims conquered and destroyed the ancient cultures of Persia (including today’s Iraq), Syria, Israel, Egypt, and all of the Norther African coast. They were stopped by the Christian Europe, and instead turned against India where they murdered an estimated 80 million people. The Muhammedan Jihadis murderers killed an estimated 270 million people and raped a similar number of women. They enslaved tens of millions and during long periods they had the policy to castrate most Black male slaves.
      Today’s “Arab World” is mostly populated by the descendants of the women they raped by the brutal Arab Muslim conquerors.
      No, Muslims are not simply reacting to us, they have their own plan.
      They can only be stopped by force. The sooner we stop them, the less blood will flow. If we wait, we will have a nuclear war with them, hundreds of millions will die.

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      1. erky

        I heard about the Muslims that attacked American ships back in the 1700′s off the coast of Africa. It was nothing to do with religion or a religious war against America. They were pirates, that’s what pirates do. When there’s a bank robbery over here, does the media mention the religion of the thief?

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  15. jenny richter

    I could not imagine voting for Ron Paul, after he suggested that 911 was our fault. He clearly does not understand the nature of Islam, and it’s lust for global power. He needs to read the Koran. Also, to suggest that the uninsurable rely on the kindness of strangers for health care is insane. He’s worse than Obama.

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    1. carol

      Hey Jenny, you need to read the Talmud. Having lived in arab countries I can assure you that most muslims have no agenda other than to prey 5 times a day, and avoid pork chops and beer. That leaves very little time for anything else. The zionist jews however! You really MUST read the talmud. Make sure you read the bit where they talk about gentiles being the lowest of the low, and the (whore) Mary, mother of Jesus. It just gets better and better. Zionists and orthodox jews believe that they must prepare the world for the coming of their messiah by means of causing friction and stirring up hate between christians and muslims…hense the false flag operation of 911. Most jews in congress are zionists, and couldn’t give a rats a#$5e about you me or any other gentile, I should know because I worked with them for years. Don’t you think it is strange that the BUsh government suppressed any investigations of 911? (except for that phony business behind closed doors!). And don’t you think it is strange that all sorts of “witnesses” to events contrary to the jew run media version of things died in “odd” circumstances? To really get an idea of who runs the Whitehouse, ask yourself why and who was lighting that big ol menorrah on the Whaitehouse lawn this past Xmas. Also ask yourself why a symbol that represents purity and love was deemed “politically incorrect”…a nativite scene.
      The enemy within lies waiting for the moment to completely topple our way of life. As they say in the MOSSAD “keep your friends close but your enemies closer”.

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      1. jenny

        It’s been a long time since I thought anyone-Jews, so-called Christians or Muslims in Congress cared about the people they are supposed to serve. As for Islam, the muslims who have the money and power are the ones I’m concerned about. With representatives of the faith like the former president of CAIR saying “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to other religions, it is here to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion,” don’t inspire warm feelings toward muslims. Islamic schools in America which are funded by the Saudis (or more truthfully American oil money)
        teach wahhabi ideology, which is hatred of infidels. Clerics calling uncovered women pieces of meat who deserve to be raped also leave an unpleasant impression. A holy book which condones child marrage, sex with minors, murder of unbelievers, taking of booty from murdered infidels, lying to advance the cause, beating of wives, and global imposition of Shari’a, is also difficult to agree with. Before you tell me all the violent passages in the bible, may I point out Christians don’t believe they are commandments for all time. Iran’s president, thinks his man purpose is to bring about cataclysmic disasters to bring about the return of the 12th inman, Islam’s messiah. England’s self appointed spokesman, Adam Choudary, calls for the overthrow of England and salivates at the prospect of the islamic flag over Downing street. Since I like living in a democracy, I find this agenda disturbing.

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      2. lioness

        Carol,
        I assure YOU, you do not know Islam, nor do you speak for muslims or understand the Arab culture. Sounds like you just like to show your antisemitism. Guess what? You have that in common with the Muslim faith. And you, need to read the Quran yourself. Islam at it’s heart is supremacist and warlike, so that violence and sharia law are the common focal point of all devout muslims around the world. They may pray 5 times a day, but your assessment shows your lack of understanding the other 99% of a very dangerous threat to our own Constutional laws and way of life.

        I like Ron Paul’s domestic platforms, but he’s sorely off base with national security and his awareness of Islamic supremacism. He’d never get my vote because of this. It’s a same too- he’s so smart but such an anti-Semite.

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      3. Viiit

        Here the antisemite Carol strikes again:
        She says: “You should read Talmud”.
        I would bet all I have that Carol has not read Talmud.
        She might have read some supposed exerts she found on antisemitic websites.
        The Talmud is some 14,000 pages long. It is like the Arabian nights, or like the Hindu Mahabharata, full of stories, good and bad, and full of contradictions, too.
        I have never read Talmud either, however I suspect that it must be a hell of a lot better than Koran.

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  16. Chris

    I love everything Ron Paul stand for except this outlandishly naive view of foreign policy. Its a crying shame that he is unelectable because of it.

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    1. lioness

      I agree Chris. Ron has great views on domestic stuff, but whew, he really hates Israel and his policies/lack thereof reflect this.

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      1. Machine

        You people are the very ones who killed Jesus!

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  17. Forest

    So, after we bring our troops home, what does Ron Paul propose to do with them? Lay them off? Have them sit around and twiddle their thumbs?

    Or maybe serve as a large standing army to the president and help in preparing the FEMA camps?

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    1. longshotlouie

      What do the troops that are at home do?

      Should we keep them at war because you think that they don’t have anything else to do?

      Wow, …. just WOW [shakes head]

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      1. Viiit

        Actually Forest’s remark, while naive sounding, is worthy a deeper consideration: On one hand it’s true that using the troops just because we have them sounds immoral. On the other hand all wars are immoral. Humanity has been agonizing about that for the last 5000 years, and still we have not fund a solution: Simply refusing to fight wars, opens the way for others to dominate.
        And it is even more difficult than that. There is no difference between defensive and offensive warfare. It is like in chess, if you only want to defend your king, you will eventually end-up check-mated.
        America is fighting wars of geopolitical domination, just like every empire did in the whole known history of humanity: Babylonians, Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Muslims, Mongols, Franks, Aztecs, … the list is long.
        The fight will no get any smaller, even if America would stop fighting. Such stop would only be temporary. While other’s would put themselves in a better position to attack American interests, if we still don’t fight, they will get stronger and eventually attack the American homeland.
        Politics is really war by other means. And it is very much like chess. The wars will only end when one of the powers will utterly dominate the whole Earth.
        I know that most of us hate to think this. Yet, just because something appears disagreeable, it is not necessarily false.
        I say, having thought about this deeply, I agree with Forest: We are an empire, so let’s be an honest empire. We have invested trillions into our military, so let’s use it for OUR advantage. Relations between countries are absolutely selfish. Let’s be selfish and use our military for our selfish needs. This will bring about the inevitable “one-world”. And I would much rather have the American “one-world” than the Russian, or the Chinese, or God-forbid, the Muhammadan one.

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    2. Matt

      Yeah! Let’s keep finding wars to fight so our troops have something to keep them busy. We couldn’t possibly stand to have our sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, moms, and dads sit around at home instead of dying every few days. My biggest concern is what we will do with them after Iraq. Quick, start a war with someone…maybe Iran will keep us busy for a while.

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  18. mscitrus

    There’s not just young men in Iraq, you sexist asshole. It’s not like there’s a widely known problem with those young men in the military raping their fellow troops or something. Jeez.

    http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/336/fact-check-military-sexual-trauma.html

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  19. Andrew Hoffman

    Jason-

    It is common knowledge that Roosevelt wanted the Japanese to strike the first blow. If they did not and we were the ones to attack how would that make us look? It is the same situation as with Abraham Lincoln and Fort Sumter. He could have his troops fire the first shot at the Confederates and by doing so the North would go down in history as the “bad guys” so to speak. Also if we surrendered the fort which was on “their land” we would be recognizing the Confederate States as a country and the rest of the world would likely follow. This left Lincoln with one obvious option. Stay and wait for the Confederates to make their move. If they didn’t fire upon the Union they would lose face and so they were forced to fire the first shots of the Civil War. Lincoln, rather brilliantly, forced the South to start the war and the Union looked no worse, or weaker for it.

    I do not believe that Roosevelt was a very good president unlike most people. That is another debate for another time however. Still, he made the right decision in waiting for Japan to strike instead of ordering an immediate mass invasion of Japan.

    As far as 9/11 being a government conspiracy, if you even consider that you are either ignorant, or ridiculously stupid. There isn’t even anything remotely close to hard evidence and it simply does not make sense.

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  20. Patrick Downey

    @ John

    Yes, the US government (the power BEHIND the power actually), is most certainly willing to “…sacrifice innocent American lives for the sake of warfare”, because they profit from war.

    Examples of this are numerous, when you take into consideration the fact that the majority of US servicemen and women are, in a sense, “innocent”, in that they generally have no idea exactly why they are serving/fighting and what they are serving/fighting for.

    All of this is thanks to the “power BEHIND the power”. They control the mass media and our institutions. They buy our politicians. They set policy. They control minds. They do not allow dissent. If you challenge them, they will crush you – usually by refusing to acknowledge your existence.

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    1. longshotlouie

      Is man evolving,

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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWqD_VOympU&feature=player_embedded

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  21. anon

    Apparently you have no understand of basic history.

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  22. christine

    Lots of HAARP activity lately.

    HAARP Induction Magnetometer, located in Alaska
    http://maestro.haarp.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/scmag/disp-scmag.cgi?date=20100310&Bx=on

    http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php

    So many earthquakes in Chile.

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  23. John

    Christine-

    I was hoping for factual evidence, not one youtube video after another. I guess the problem with the internet is essentially that there is no way to know one way or another if what you read is true. Right now the only fact I can establish is that it is possible that you love a good conspiracy theory, and you certainly like watching youtube. I apologize ahead of time for sounding so crass, I do not want to come off as offensive or condescending but I just am not swayed by general media. In my mind, a lot of the references sited are much like the people (Al Gore mainly) that do nothing more than stir emotion in people to gather a desired response…. For god’s sake, look at what “drowning” polar bears did for the Global Warming crowd. You’re against war, and I understand that more keenly than most because I am a soldier. Unfortunately, there is always need for an Army that can go to war.

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    1. longshotlouie

      Why are you waiting for Christine to prove it to you?

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  24. Christine

    Shocking Speech to the United Nations (must watch)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S0AObjQfas&feature=related

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  25. John

    @ Christine

    Can you prove any of your accusations? In particular, your assertion that 9/11 was someone within the government? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of either of the last two administrations, but to say that someone would sacrifice innocent American lives for the sake of warfare….thats just going a bit too far. Please, present what you say is true, or just do not make half-witted statements like that, it does nothing but stir negative emotions that solve nothing.

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    1. Christine

      It’s really best that you do some research on the web. It’s out there and there is so much in answer to your question. I couldn’t possibly share it all with you here. It’s not up to me to convince you, it’s up to you to discover (uncover) it. There have been many contributions by many people to get the truth out. Some have survived, some sadly have not. It all doesn’t fit in a neat little box. Since 9/11 there has been a steady drumbeat by the government about terrorist this and terrorist that. Steadily we have been losing freedoms, homes, jobs, America the Republic because of our govt using the tactic of “Problem, Reaction, Solution. They create the problem, we react, then come in with the fix (that we would never otherwise agree to, un-American solutions). Our country is changing little by little in this way, more rapid now than in the past. What could be more terrorizing than what the govt is doing to us, to our country, to other countries? Know that the media is well controlled by the elite, that it’s purpose is programming.

      September Clues
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqEpuTGc98s

      Longshotlouie shared this one with us yesterday in another area at this site.

      Mysterious Deaths of 911 Witnesses
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU

      Barry Jennings – Eyewitness Account
      http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=barry+jennings&search_type=&aq=f

      Problem Reaction Solution (David Icke)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29C_KNZ7RNs

      Zeitgeist – The Movie: World Trade Center (Part 1 of 4)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI

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      1. Christine

        Reflections And Warnings – An Interview With Aaron Russo {Full Film} (about 1 hr 30 min. interview, knowledge in advance of 9/11, the wars, etc.)
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ

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      2. Christine

        …and where did Aaron Russo say we would go after Iraq, Afghanistan? Instead of bin laden, who would we be going after? what’s the plan, long in advance of anything happening that would be cause for a war?

        Increased U.S. Military Presence in Colombia Could Pose Problems With Neighbors
        http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/world/americas/23colombia.html?_r=1

        Watch, there will be a reason the govt will say that we need to have a war with Venezuela. I don’t know about you, but I’m sick of this way of living, of all these wars and destruction, senseless waste of lives.

        We must choose peace, and give peace a chance. hmm…sounds like a song.

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    2. Christine

      Loose Change 911 An American Coup Part 1 of 10
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkPO6ksgyVM&feature=related

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  26. John

    @ Jason

    I fail to see how something that would equate to a trade embargo could be used as a justification to attack another sovereign nation.

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    1. Jason

      The embargo may not have been the only cause, but it was the straw that broke the camel’s back, so to speak. Here is some evidence that the US not only knew about an upcoming attack, but may have wanted it.

      “Prior to December 7, it was evident even to me… that we were pushing Japan into a corner. I believed that it was the desire of President Roosevelt, and Prime Minister Churchill that we get into the war, as they felt the Allies could not win without us and all our efforts to cause the Germans to declare war on us failed; the conditions we imposed upon Japan — to get out of China, for example — were so severe that we knew that nation could not accept them. We were forcing her so severely that we could have known that she would react toward the United States. All her preparations in a military way — and we knew their over-all import — pointed that way.” — Vice Admiral Frank E. Beatty (Aid to Frank Knox, the Secretary of the Navy)
      Source: U. S. News and World Report, May 28, 1954, p. 48

      Ten days prior to Pearl Harbor, the Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson wrote in his diary that he had met with President Roosevelt to discuss the evidence of impending hostilities with Japan, and the question was ‘how we should maneuver them [the Japanese] into the position of firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves.’
      Source: Parallax Visions: Making Sense of American-East Asian Relations by Bruce Cumings.

      “If by these means Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better. At all events we must be fully prepared to accept the threat of war.” – Lt. Commander A. H. McCollum from the office of naval intellegence in a memo to navy captains that lays out 8 ways of provoking Japan to attack (October 7th, 1940).

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  27. John

    @ Lib777

    Point well taken….I’m not sure why swat was used in that situation, but I can think they certainly serve their purpose for other reasons. Memory calls forth the two nut-jobs in California that robbed a bank, then decided to start a war with L.A. Police….are you honestly going to tell me that you think the police were properly armed for that fight? SWAT certainly could have contained that situation much quicker than they LAPD (nothing against LA’s finest, they were out-gunned). I sense a tension on the site towards the US; why does the majority here feel the US is the big bad wolf everywhere it goes?

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  28. Libertarian777

    @John on the The Posse Comitatus Act

    the state governments have gotten around this restriction by militarising the police force.
    Every major city (and even the non major ones) have a SWAT unit, which is used to serve warrants (oestensibly for ‘high risk’ warrants only, like Elias Gonzales a known high risk felon!)

    http://reason.com/archives/2009/07/13/swat-gone-wild-in-maryland

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  29. John

    One thing I didn’t think to put in my last post……The last time we decided to stay neutral so everyone would like us, we lost right around 3,000 service members in a sneak-attack in the Pacific. Everyone remember that? Like it or not, in most cases you must choose a side.

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    1. Jason

      But even Pearl Harbor was not because we hadn’t chosen sides already. Before the attack, the US had stopped trading oil with Japan and almost forced Japan’s hand. Historians theorize that Roosevelt made efforts to provoke the Japanese to attack in order to give the US justification for entering the war. Really, it doesn’t make sense to say that Japan attacked because of our neutrality, in fact they attacked because we were not neutral.

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      1. Christine

        True. Historically America has provoked or set up wars that make us look innocent and responding to being attacked, when the truth is quite the opposite. There has been another group operating behind the scenes in secret, orchestrating all these events. It still goes on today, including 9/11.

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  30. John

    This all sounds quaint, but I think you are all missing something……

    The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (today the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain “law and order” on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.

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  31. Christine

    Kucinich Announces Introduction of Privileged Resolution to End Afghan War
    http://kucinich.us/

    End War. Americans can get back to being ourselves once again instead of being run by greedy cartels and big corporations, along with the federal govt (a corp) and the FED (a corp), and a shadow govt that does not listen to the voice of the American people. Some of these live businesses are on our American soil, but they are not true Americans at heart. They are something else.

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    1. Christine

      A Petition Requesting the U.S. Congress to Stop Funding Additional Troops in Afghanistan.
      http://kucinich.us/afghanistan/

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  32. Jordan Nemer

    Ron paul is not anti semetic/israel he just wants neutrality. And why does europe or the usa needs an anti missle system when the iranian govt said they want israel wiped off the map. and the iranians like to tlk tough with there govt. but israel has already around 600 nukes. all they could do is to tell hizbullah or hamas to attack with katushas nd mortars. The war will never end so ron paul is right on neutrality and nonintervention. and if the radical muyslims ever do suicide bombings in the usa or large scale attacks we shoukld be ready. but we need to protect our power grids al of our infrastructure nd wht scares me if 2 chinese teens can hack into the us. homeland security syustem then we are really in deep trouble

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  33. Susan Harkins

    NEWS ALERT: U.S. Presidential Elections Invalid, Says Constitution.

    In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College…

    A formal registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name ‘Barry Soetoro’ made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.

    Details:

    Name: Barry Soetoro
    Religion: Islam
    Nationality: Indonesian

    How did this little INDONESIAN Muslim child – Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama) get around the issue of nationality to become President of the United States of America? The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid, and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.

    This document provides the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking — that he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the United States – necessary to be President of these United States. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya, here we see that there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship…

    Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records.

    Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing; but that the final report will be provided to U.S. Attorney General, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter.

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  34. george e patten

    EVERYTHING MENTIONED IS VERY TRUE ! BUT WE HAVE A HUGE PROBABLEM GETTING READY TO UNFOLD ! THE NATION OF ISLAM IS GETTING READY TO MARCH ON WASHINGTON ! THEIR PROCLAMATION IS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO ISLAMATIZE OUR DEMOCRACY !!!!! THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH US THAT WE CANT FIX OURSELVES ! WE DONT NEED THE VERY PEOPLE WE ARE FIGHTING AGAINST TAKEING OVER ! ITS BAD ENOUGH WE HAVE A MUSLIM IN OFFICE , WHO’S SYMPATHY LIES WITH THEIR DESIRE TO BRING US DOWN ! IT WILL BE A BIGGER ATTACK THAN 911 , AND AGAIN IT WILL COME FROME OUR OWN BACK YARD !! THANK YOU .

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  35. Anthony Estrada

    it is not the Congressman Paul is against the US military in Iraq but that he believes if you are going to fight a war you need to declair war and being a memeber of the US military i believe the same way either declair war fight with all possible resources or dont do it

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