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Show: Lew Rockwell Show
Date: 4/24/2009
Transcript:
Lew Rockwell: Boy, it is so great to have as our guest this morning Dr. Ron Paul, Congressman from Texas, great champion of liberty and of sound money, of Austrian economics, the man who turned the country on its ear during the presidential election, built a movement that is continuing to grow. He’s got a book coming out called “End the Fed” and as we know there’s a huge movement about that.
But Ron, before we talk about monetary questions and the Federal Reserve, tell me about secession. You’ve been in the news a lot recently on that subject.
Ron Paul: Yes, and it wasn’t like I went out of my way and volunteered to get into that little debate, because obviously there is still a lot of controversy with that. You know, when our governor brought that up here in Texas, it made a lot of news and there were a couple of factors there. One, I think he did that for political reasons and he isn’t really identified with a really strong states’-rights position. But, I think he was doing a little bit pandering because he’s in a tight race with Hutchinson. And actually it probably helped him politically which has driven the Liberals nuts because they think, “How could possibly independence from the federal government be a political plus?”
So then they start throwing words around at anybody who could even think about that it is treasonous and un-American. That’s what annoyed me and I thought, “I’m going to make a statement. This is just terrible that they take a good principle and turn it into something evil, especially since so many of us understand that it is the principle of secession that allowed us to form our own country”. So, I made that statement but I’ve gotten some grief over it. But I think one of my best arguments to neutralize some of them has been this argument that we have voluntarily joined the United Nations. We pay the most of any other country but we’re outgunned and outnumbered and even those who like the United Nations don’t like us to be having run rough shot over it. And I think even those who want us to be in the United Nations aren’t quite willing to say, “Oh no, we never have the right to leave the United Nations”.
And I think the principle is similar, you know. If we joined something voluntarily we ought to have the right to leave it. But, I guess I’m a little bit surprised that I wasn’t blasted more than I was on the issue, because I thought CNN gave me a credible interview and didn’t made fun it. Maybe they were more so than I realized. But I thought the chance I had to explain it was reasonable where they asked questions. I know the comedy shows mocked it and made fun of it. But nevertheless I hope I was able to get a few people to start thinking about that principle. Continue reading “Ron Paul on the Lew Rockwell Show”
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